Default Messaging -> SMS

[warnysouth]

Hi,

How can I configure my trinity so that a click on messaging ALWAYS goes into the sms inbox and not my outlook inbox?

Any ideas?

Thanks

W

[FuzzMunky]

I would also like to know.

Windows Mobile is so remarkably badly designed. It just beggers belief. Just little things like this.

Also, do they expect you to get your stylus out just to close the phone? cos its very difficult to hit that tiny X in the top right corner with your fingers. They should make it a phone first, a pda second.

I think simply, they are idiots.

[volume]

I have not any problems as you have. I choosed the sms one time and after that it always comes to sms inbox when I press messaging

[FuzzMunky]

...and if you log into MSN Messenger, it takes the liberty of loading your Hotmail JUNK onto the phone. Then it displays that you have say 2 new hotmail emails on the meesaging bar on the today screen. If you click on this its about another three clicks just to get to SMS. Then if you close it again and go back to Today screen, you click again on messaging and it is back in Hotmail inbox... requiring even more clicks to get it to SMS.

Each time i have to do this my life gets profoundly shorter.

[dave106]

just use left and right on the dpad to cycle through the messaging accounts

[saminegm]

I really cant understand you guys: It is a VERY small device with amazing abilities. And WM5 can do a lot of things.

[emay]

I would also like to know.

Windows Mobile is so remarkably badly designed. It just beggers belief. Just little things like this.

Also, do they expect you to get your stylus out just to close the phone? cos its very difficult to hit that tiny X in the top right corner with your fingers. They should make it a phone first, a pda second.

I think simply, they are idiots.

I can close the phone app by pressing the red button, no problem.

[anonimo]

I would also like to know.

Windows Mobile is so remarkably badly designed. It just beggers belief. Just little things like this.

Also, do they expect you to get your stylus out just to close the phone? cos its very difficult to hit that tiny X in the top right corner with your fingers. They should make it a phone first, a pda second.

I think simply, they are idiots.

Have you noticed a button with "OK" written on top? Have you tried to press the red button after the conversation is over? Have you noticed that pressing the menu button and selecting another program will send the phone application to background? I am asking because you don't seem to have spent much time trying to learn how to use a Windows Mobile device. There are at least three ways to close the phone without touching the screen but you haven't even found one.

Regarding the default account for messaging: I usually open Messaging from the entry in the Today menu and that always returns to the last used account, usually the SMS inbox for me.

[FuzzMunky]

Im just pissed because I cant get any SIP things to load without having to go through a long process of unloading today plugins and setting sipchange, then soft resetting, then reloading all the plugins.

I will admit, I didnt realise a press of the Red button exits the phone app. I eventually remapped a hold of the left button to close whatever the current app is. Useful for TOMTOM, so you dont have to go through the menus. I stlll find it annoying how you cant just have the messaging default to SMS.

There is definitely no denying though that for however much the programmers have got right, they are still so far from having the perfect implementation of a PDA OS, And they should be after this many iterations. They still have tiny keyboards, tiny scroll bars, buttons shoved into corners. Look at the iPhone interface and tell me that isnt a far more intelligently designed interface.

I like my device, dont get me wrong, Im just a perfectionist and I want to get rid of all the niggles I have with it. .. and I hated Windows 3.0 which this feels like a lot of the time.

[anonimo]

There is definitely no denying though that for however much the programmers have got right, they are still so far from having the perfect implementation of a PDA OS, And they should be after this many iterations. They still have tiny keyboards, tiny scroll bars, buttons shoved into corners. Look at the iPhone interface and tell me that isnt a far more intelligently designed interface.

I think that most problems come from the fact that the PocketPC form factor was designed (or I should say copied from Palm) long before the idea of using it for phones. Most improvements in WM5 were actually related to making it more usable as a phone. So if there have been many iterations most of them were in a PDA context not a phone one.
Regarding the iPhone interface: I won't judge before I have actually used it, and most probably that is never going to happen :)

[saminegm]

Im just pissed because I cant get any SIP things to load without having to go through a long process of unloading today plugins and setting sipchange, then soft resetting, then reloading all the plugins.

I will admit, I didnt realise a press of the Red button exits the phone app. I eventually remapped a hold of the left button to close whatever the current app is. Useful for TOMTOM, so you dont have to go through the menus. I stlll find it annoying how you cant just have the messaging default to SMS.

There is definitely no denying though that for however much the programmers have got right, they are still so far from having the perfect implementation of a PDA OS, And they should be after this many iterations. They still have tiny keyboards, tiny scroll bars, buttons shoved into corners. Look at the iPhone interface and tell me that isnt a far more intelligently designed interface.

I like my device, dont get me wrong, Im just a perfectionist and I want to get rid of all the niggles I have with it. .. and I hated Windows 3.0 which this feels like a lot of the time.

Just get an iPhone... but dont ask for thousands of games, dont ask for MS Exchange Push Mail, dont ask for Outlook compatibility (works bad on iPod), dont ask for Word, PowerPoint, Excel, dont ask for GPS, dont ask for WiFi and/or Bluetooth...

IMHO your ranting about small issues is not appropriate. Just read the manual and try the workarounds people show you here...

[FuzzMunky]

So are you saying that WM5 is perfect in your eyes? Or that if you have any problems with it you should never talk about them?

I am confused. Sounds like you just want people to shut up and be mindless consumers.

[saminegm]

So are you saying that WM5 is perfect in your eyes? Or that if you have any problems with it you should never talk about them?

I am confused. Sounds like you just want people to shut up and be mindless consumers.

Only to you. I just think this: If I got one device with ten things working and one not (in fact it worked!) and another device with 3 things working I wouldnt call the 1st one "badly designed".

[FuzzMunky]

Well, let's see. As soon as people get their WM5 device I imagine they will want to put some application launcher buttons on the today screen.

Oh that's right; you can't without installing some third-party software.

Ok. So then they might want to make shortcuts to these apps using the keys on the front of the device.....

Oh that's right; you can't do that without installing some third-party software.

Would you prefer it if I precursed all criticisms with the positives? So, for example: Windows Mobile 5 is this, it's that, in fact, here is a run down of the binary code as a description of it and here are some technical specifications and a glossary of terms.... but... I think that they should let you place application shortcuts on the Today Screen.

Nonsense my friend, nonsense.

[warnysouth]

Just get an iPhone... but dont ask for thousands of games, dont ask for MS Exchange Push Mail, dont ask for Outlook compatibility (works bad on iPod), dont ask for Word, PowerPoint, Excel, dont ask for GPS, dont ask for WiFi and/or Bluetooth...

IMHO your ranting about small issues is not appropriate. Just read the manual and try the workarounds people show you here...

Just because something is the most versatile thing available doesnt make it well designed. Take a closer look at your desktop Windows installation...Take a look at your car....

[warnysouth]

Just because something is the most versatile thing available doesnt make it well designed. Take a closer look at your desktop Windows installation...Take a look at your car....

But yes, I do appreciate the workarounds a lot, thanks,

[anonimo]

Ok. So then they might want to make shortcuts to these apps using the keys on the front of the device.....

Oh that's right; you can't do that without installing some third-party software.


I fully respect that Windows Mobile might not be your cup of tea (I had major trouble to adapt to the Nokia S60 interface but a lot of people like it) but to be honest I am just happy with having the last used applications appear automatically in the Start menu, something that no other phone operating system does. I have the programs that I use most frequently always available in that list and it has room for 5 entries which is more than enough for me. And you can choose the 6 items which stay permanently in the Start menu, so you have 11 programs easily accessible plus 3 customisable buttons on the sides of the phone. It works for me.