"WM6 on Trinity" POLL

[FuzzMunky]

What would you give to have WM6 working on your Trinity?

[lvsw]

https://www.paypal.com/en_US/i/btn/x-click-but04.gif WM6 Development for Trinity (HTC P3600) (https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_xclick&business=ilovelinux%2email%40gmail%2ecom&item_name=WM6%20Development%20for%20Trinity%20%28H TC%20P3600%29&no_shipping=2&no_note=1&tax=0&currency_code=EUR&lc=RU&bn=PP%2dDonationsBF&charset=UTF%2d8)

[apogeu]

Sniifff... i want it... i give a BIG THANKS :)

[stinger32]

Lvsw--> Start working I'll promise to raise 1000$ if you can get us a functional wm6-rom for Trinity.

[MacGuy2006]

Here is a $10 pledge from me. We only need 99 more:-)

[FuzzMunky]

$10 from me.

[JohnNTD]

$10 here too...

[ric h710]

$20 From me ;o)

[sintesi]

Yo
So what is the good thing about WM6? If you can convince me I'll put $50 to the pot:)

[stinger32]

sintesi--> I'll try and convince you. I have a Tytn with WM6 and a Htc 3600 with WM5 and I must say that WM6 is blazing fast, and WM6 looks better and most of the program are updated. I really like my Htc 3600 better than Tytn (lighter, smaller, gps,etc) and I noticed that I dont use the keyboard on the Tytn as much as I thought I would. So I would really like to have WM6 running on my Htc 3600 instead cos now I actually using my Tytn because of WM6

[stepw]

Would be funnier to see the poll options as
1. ARM
2. THUMB
3. NULL

[mikesol]

You've got $20 in Canadian from me. That's at least $5 USD

[greatsokol]

my $50 will be yours

[abeerm5took]

50$ from me too

[stinger32]

200$ so far Lvsw get to work ;-)

[lvsw]

200$ so far Lvsw get to work ;-)

;) I working...... (now problems with XIP only)

[stinger32]

Nice, very nice Lvsw keep us posted about your progress. Common guys open up your wallets, if Trinity have a working WM6-rom I think it is the absolut most complete phone ever.

[petertjo]

7 € or 10$ from me here for wm6

[mo7al]

$10 from me
GPS will still work right ?

[mun_rus]

we work on wm6 rom with lvsw together. But there is one prome for me - i haven't this device. When i'll sell my wiza, the speed of working will speed up.
Now i modified and wrote some tools to port XIP section. I can dump whole XIP region (Tytn/Trinity), but can't rebuild it by my program (but i have already transfered whole XIP region of Tytn to my wiza. Works great). Working on it also. If i have no success with it, ill try to port all SYS part of XIP manually (a lot of work...heh :( ). But at first ..i should get money for new device...

[Hajaz]

10$ from me too

[stinger32]

munros--> Welcome, cant you test on Lvsw:s Trinity? I hope everything works out. and for the rest, please contribute.

[lvsw]

munros--> Welcome, cant you test on Lvsw:s Trinity? I hope everything works out. and for the rest, please contribute.

We work together, but process goes very slowly, becouse we in different time zones. And as mistakes lead to death of the device and on reanimation a lot of time leaves.

When at mUn_rus there will be a device, hope process will go much more quickly and we as a result shall win. We have a wide experience in creation RomUpdate. Especially at mUn - it more than once extract and puck XIP.
Sooner or later at all of us it will turn out.

Now, the basic problem that XIP, as well as all ROM, has BadBlocks. Infringement of numbering BadBlocks will kill Trinity.
And numbering BadBlocks should correspond to the general numbering..... I Hate NANA-flash

[stinger32]

"Sooner or later at all of us it will turn out" I got it. And I really hope so cos after evaluating Tytn and 3600 the later one is my favorite and that it has gps doesnt make things worse ;-) so a working Wm6-rom would be fantastic. Do you planning to build a tool so you can convert every new WM6-rom that will be released?
MUN_RUS-->Damn sorry that you dont live where I am I would have lend you my trinity for testing.
And I say it again if there are any files or anything else you need PM me and I get it.

[stinger32]

Hmm over 1600 people have poped in here and only 11 have been contributed money to the WM6 development, then I guess that all of you that doesnt contribute wont use the rom that lvsw and mun_rus going to produce? or maby you can ask htc for a wm6-rom!

[ZakMcRofl]

Hmm over 1600 people have poped in here and only 11 have been contributed money to the WM6 development, then I guess that all of you that doesnt contribute wont use the rom that lvsw and mun_rus going to produce? or maby you can ask htc for a wm6-rom!

Maybe some of us think that bringing money into the issue isn't a good idea? If people put money into something they expect full support, they will bitch and moan and be more demanding.

It also corrupts those who receive it, they'll start to expect it for their contributions and we'll end up like those guys that charge for unlocking phones.

Money in donation form is fine, but putting a bounty on a WM6 ROM seems wrong (to me at least). Besides, I don't care much about WM6. Yes it would be cool and I would use it but its not worth 20 bucks to me...

[stinger32]

Maybe some of us think that bringing money into the issue isn't a good idea? If people put money into something they expect full support, they will bitch and moan and be more demanding.

First, When there is money involved things usually speeds up if you know what I mean then the you can start by reading lvsw:s and kyphur:s threads when they released custom roms and tell me if they dont give support what they created!


It also corrupts those who receive it, they'll start to expect it for their contributions and we'll end up like those guys that charge for unlocking phones.

You have a point here no doubt about that.


Money in donation form is fine, but putting a bounty on a WM6 ROM seems wrong (to me at least). .

For me it isnt, because HTC wont release it and I really want it then I have only 1 alternative left and that is to give a carrot to people that are kind enought to offer their freetime to develop it for me and others that want it.


Besides, I don't care much about WM6. Yes it would be cool and I would use it but its not worth 20 bucks to me...

Ok thats your opinion but as I said before, I have a Tytn with WM6 and I have a Trinity with WM5 and I must say that WM6 is so much better than WM5. Much much faster, BT is working much better on WM6 than WM5, Looks nicer, and I'm using my Tytn because of that, even that I really enjoy my Trinity more. So I would be very happy to have WM6 on my trinity it would make it complete. Thats why I'm prepered to pay for it.

[oppaunke]

10$ and additional 10$ for making a german version :)

[export800]

$20US here and right index finger if it would help... a bit low on cash right now ;)

[mun_rus]

@stinger32
Heh...so i started to save money. I think I'll open acaount for donates and every body who wants to speed up the process could get a little money to my coin box;)

I dodn't give a joke when i told about XIP section.
Have a look.
I ported Tytn rom to my wizard exept some OEM parts of rom.
http://4pda.ru/forum/uploads/img-29106-display_1.jpg
Now i have build that no one has.
Also, i have a great experience in localization. Can create any native loc, as module file :)
http://4pda.ru/forum/uploads/img-28854-display_11.jpg
Have a look once more, wht can i do with loc:
1) Default keboard has rus/eng layouts. And also we can tap in two lang.
http://4pda.ru/forum/uploads/img-26633-display_1.jpg
2) World comlection from standart dict also support two lang (rus/eng)
3) We can quick search contacts in two lang by press down key (rus/eng)
4) We have two lang working tabs in contacts
http://4pda.ru/forum/uploads/img-26634-Untitled-1.jpg
5) Also, i changed buttons in dial pad (rus/eng)
http://4pda.ru/forum/uploads/img-26632-display_4.jpg
6) I found how to change defaul keybord skin) and made it by myself
http://4pda.ru/forum/uploads/img-26753-display_5.jpg

[duke911]

great job mun_rus .... keep up the hard work
:)

[stinger32]

mun_rus--> very nice to see, and I look forward to have a working WM6-rom on my Trinity any day now ;-) Do you have paypal?

[lvsw]

mun_rus--> very nice to see, and I look forward to have a working WM6-rom on my Trinity any day now ;-) Do you have paypal?

Specially for mUn_rus the account on PayPal is got. All means received from users will go on purchase HTC Trinity. And if remains a few money on JATG which very much will help if the device during creation WM6 will die.

The reference for the help for creation WM6 Trinity in my signature and the signature mUn_rus

[mun_rus]

Need some time to collect money for new device. Than i promise that i'll try (and i ll create ;) ) create wm6 rom for trinity as soon as it possible, coz we've collected great experience already.
Thanx to all for your help!!!

[Des]

And as mistakes lead to death of the deviceI hardly can imagine mistake that bricks device with flashing os image only.as well as all ROM, has BadBlocks. Infringement of numbering BadBlocks will kill Trinity.
And numbering BadBlocks should correspond to the general numbering.....My bad english prevents me from clear understanding of written above, but "software bad blocks" are no problem present day. And you do know this.I Hate NANA-flashMost flash mem you use is NAND type btw.

And if remains a few money on JATG which very much will help if the device during creation WM6 will die.You can build jtag interface from nothing in 10 minutes, add some optional buffer and you'll get almost the same stuff that is priced under 200$. But neither this nor super-mega-pro interface won't help you unless you know jtag test points for trinity.

[sintesi]

I got this information when trying to use the paypal account to help your funding for a 3600.

Enter Payment Information

Currently PayPal accounts in Russia are only able to send payments. This recipient is not eligible to receive funds.
PayPal is the authorized payment processor for ilovelinux.mail@gmail.com. To continue, please enter the required information below. Learn more about PayPal.

[mo7al]

So Des, are you helping cooking a WM6 rom for trinity?

[lvsw]

Learn more about PayPal.

As an alternative variant, we have received registration record on WebMoney :
www.wmtransfer.com (http://www.wmtransfer.com/)
- Z326722340152
- U416891718820
- E177502481362
- R226644240990

[FuzzMunky]

The link for WebMoney in you signature doesn't work.

And if you goto Webmoney.com, it just goes round and round in circles.

[mun_rus]

I hardly can imagine mistake that bricks device with flashing os image only.
Just try to flash your device with wrong XIP region and it won't even turn on!

[lvsw]

The link for WebMoney in you signature doesn't work.

This reference to my message where are listed number of purses

[FuzzMunky]

This wmtransfer has got to be the most complicated process imaginable for money sending.

It's a shame you cant get your Paypal to work.

[miles1234]

And a small contribution from me.
10 Euro...

you are the best!

[sintesi]

wmtransfer doesn't work on mac. This is a stupid system. I'm willing to pay you guys, but at the moment not able to.

[export800]

wmtransfer reminds me a lot of the XIP problem on the Trinity

[stinger32]

I'v started a donation thread please continue there. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=296294

[JohnNTD]

the link took me to paypal but when I tried to make the donation, it kept saying that this user is not allowed to receive payment. What's up with that?


JohnNTD

[mun_rus]

Unfortunately our paypal account doesn't allow us to recieve donation (if i understand error message correctly...if itsn't so let me know)...coz we live in Russia( So bad news for us...
We are sorry for that..

[lvsw]

I'v started a donation thread please continue there. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=296294

As we live in the wild country which Russia refers to. And world payment systems ignore Russian bank accounts, we have got registration record on E-GOLD. You can send money with PayPal on E-Gold. We Apologize for the delivered inconveniences.


E-GOLD: 4172133

[stinger32]

Link should work now http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=296294

[Des]

I hardly can imagine mistake that bricks device with flashing os image only.Just try to flash your device with wrong XIP region and it won't even turn on!Hmm... then I hardly can imagine how man positioning himself as a skilled wm hacker could call this "bricking" while simple rom reflash using standard procedure would bring device back to life in this case.

[mun_rus]

Hmm... then I hardly can imagine how man positioning himself as a skilled wm hacker could call this "bricking" while simple rom reflash using standard procedure would bring device back to life in this case.

Only for my stupid actions in some way... when we flashed trinity with whole xip part from hermes...Trinity didn't even turn on to enter in bootloader.

И на старуху бывает проруха...;)

[dew.man]

Hmm... then I hardly can imagine how man positioning himself as a skilled wm hacker could call this "bricking" while simple rom reflash using standard procedure would bring device back to life in this case.

I'm not a big fan of throwing money at one or two guys to begin with as I've seen many times on here where the anticipated fix comes from an 'unexpected' source ;-)

I'm more interested in knowing if this is something you (or any of the other talent from the other HTC forums) are working on?

[Des]

Only for my stupid actions in some way... when we flashed trinity with whole xip part from hermes...Trinity didn't even turn on to enter in bootloader.Then you've performed something stupider than flashing os image only. Entering bootloader in no way connected with contents of OS rom image (including boot and uldr binfs partitions "xip regions"). Anything (non producing software bads i.e. 517th byte on every 520byte page == 0xFF) could be flashed as OS image and device could be fully restored using standard rom update procedure (with manual entering to bl) after that. I bet 1k$ (and my own trinity as a guinea pig) on that. Do you take a dare ?

[FuzzMunky]

Hey Des, sounds like with all your knowledge you could actually HELP the WM6 development, rather than just criticising those pledging to work for it.

[stinger32]

Yes I agree I have been asking in the hermes forum a couple of times and noone has answered in this forum Lvsw and mun_rus answered directly and wanted to help to develop a wm6-rom for trinity, so why not join instead of make bets.

[dew.man]

Hey Des, sounds like with all your knowledge you could actually HELP the WM6 development, rather than just criticising those pledging to work for it.

Better chill - Des built the SSPL tool, and is the reason you're able to flash any rom in the first place - and that more than qualifies as HELP :D

[FuzzMunky]

Right, I didn't know that and I appreciate it.

But my point about the criticism stands. From an outsiders perspective it seems he is setting lots of traps for the guys who are trying to help even further.

[kyphur]

I'd agree with caution on "buying" a solution upfront.

I don't care ot get into an argument with anyone but if mun_rus has proted the Hermes WM6 Rom to Wizard then why doesn't he post it so we can compare files and confirm that he has the ability. :eek:

Otherwise, money sent to russia before confirmed product is received is money never seen again!

Des is a respected productive member of the XDA-Dev community and he is simply cautioning you against buying a pig in a poke.

You can futz up NAND flash chip if you get your memory blocks wrong. I've done it and it was an expensive lesson (I loved that 8525 and would never have intentionally killed it).

[FuzzMunky]

Call me naive, but I like having faith in people.

[stinger32]

First I must say that I really respect you and Des for the good work you do for the community keep up the good work. (But you have to buy a Trinity instead) ;)

I'd agree with caution on "buying" a solution upfront.

Because of the zero interest in Trinity:s development (wich is peculiar to me because I have both the Tytn and Trinity and I really hate the Tytn). We regular people have to find a solution if we want an upgrade to a better OS because it seems like no1 gives a shit about Trinity. So the only way is to speed it up and thats where the money comes in.

I don't care ot get into an argument with anyone but if mun_rus has proted the Hermes WM6 Rom to Wizard then why doesn't he post it so we can compare files and confirm that he has the ability.

Why not wait a couple of days and will se about it what happens. They have dumped and rebuilt the XIP and that seems to work. I dont know really what that means but I guess you do.

You can futz up NAND flash chip if you get your memory blocks wrong. I've done it and it was an expensive lesson (I loved that 8525 and would never have intentionally killed it)..

Well I think or even take for granted that they knows that, I almost knew that after some read around the forum.


Otherwise, money sent to russia before confirmed product is received is money never seen again!.

Money isnt sent to Russia I collect the money in the thread and I live in Sweden.

[prsnow]

...Money isnt sent to Russia I collect the money in the thread and I live in Sweden.

So you will be sending the money to the people that are working on WM6? I thought the money would be used to purchase a Trinity for them. What exactly is the process?

[kyphur]

First I must say that I really respect you and Des for the good work you do for the community keep up the good work. (But you have to buy a Trinity instead) ;)
Thank you, I appreciate the kind words
Because of the zero interest in Trinity:s development (wich is peculiar to me because I have both the Tytn and Trinity and I really hate the Tytn). We regular people have to find a solution if we want an upgrade to a better OS because it seems like no1 gives a shit about Trinity. So the only way is to speed it up and thats where the money comes in.
Now actually that is not true. There is plenty of care for Trinity. But just like you wouldn't go to the Wizard forums looking for BlueAngel or Hermes Support, the guys in the Hermes threads are focusing on the Hermes because that's what they got.
Why not wait a couple of days and will se about it what happens. They have dumped and rebuilt the XIP and that seems to work. I dont know really what that means but I guess you do.
I did not say that they couldn't or wouldn't do it. I simply advise caution. I never buy anything without knowing that it works (every internet transaction on a CC incase there is a problem). The screenshots look good but in 5 minutes I could show you Mac OSX running on my daughter's StarTrek (Cing 3125) - Photoshop doesn't take long to boot-up. :rolleyes:

I would hate to see you guys raise a bundle of cash and not get what you're seeking. I think that it isn't asking too much for mun_rus to send the Wizard Rom to someone for validation, I mean why isn't he sharing it?
Well I think or even take for granted that they knows that, I almost knew that after some read around the forum.
I learned the hard a few years back to take nothing for granted. Unless you hear it from their mouth, assume nothing. If I understand correctly, mun_rus does not have a device with NAND flash so why would I assume that he understands the differences?
Money isnt sent to Russia I collect the money in the thread and I live in Sweden.
Now that is where you really need to explain the exact process of money collection and distribution. I doubt I'm the only person who gets the impression that the goal is to provide $1,000 upfront to 2 guys in Russia (no offense) for a product that doesn't even exist yet.:eek:

I'm not trying to cast doubt on anyone here, just advising caution.

[cedrick]

I'm totally agree with the above! Although I send my cheers to those skilled enough to try a WM6 port on Trinity, I would not donate anything for now.

I prefer to have some sustainable proof that this port work "fine", then i'll think about granting the author with donation.

Thanks for your hard work anyway ;)

[kyphur]

I just spoke with a good friend who is more knowledgable about cooking Roms and porting from one platform to another.

He confirmed that you cannot transplant WM6 onto the WM5 Core. At best you will simply have to reflash your device but the OS will not boot.

This is not simply going from AKU 2.x to AKU 3.x

Look at the Blue Angel guys, ther got WM5 only because there had been a leaked WM5 BA Rom which could be used to port the Wizard WM5 Rom to BA. They will not get WM6 because there does not exist a WM6 Core for BA.

Even the Wizard port of the Hermes Rom does not compare with what you are expecting here. Porting the Hermes WM6 Rom to the Wizard WM6 Core is not the same as proting the Hermes WM6 Rom to Trinity WM5 Core.

Trinity is a new enough device, with a little patience I'm sure a WM6 Rom will leak from somewhere.

[MacGuy2006]

Here is my take:

I am not holding my breath that HTC will provide WM6 for the Trinity. My idea was to offer a reward for porting WM6, but frankly, when I sent my $10, I did not expect to get it back, even if the effort fails.

I am glad someone is working on this. The potential benefit of WM6 is worth risking $10, at least to me.

mun_rus just offered to send the files to Des (post #50 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=296294&page=5).

Perhaps Des should take him (her?) up on it, and see if he (she?) can help.

Just my 2 cents.

[mun_rus]

@kyphur
You can find my roms on russian forums. Lvsw've done his roms for trinity and prophet.

Thread was called 'donation thread' so if somebody wnt to give his contribute he will do it.

[Des]

Hey Des, sounds like with all your knowledge you could actually HELP the WM6 developmentAnd why do you think that I don't: just because I do not make a song about it ?

Lvsw and mun_rus answered directly and wanted to help to develop a wm6-rom for trinityYes, I do remember that direct answer :)

rather than just criticising those pledging to work for it.it seems he is setting lots of traps for the guys who are trying to help even furtherIf I've understood your clearly if man want to help it does not matter what nonsense he is saying ?

And now let's back to WM 6.0 and trinity:
Boot partition by itself contain kernel and minimalistic set of drivers and libraries needed to bring filesystem up. Most stuff there came from microsoft (i.e. common for all devices) but there are several oem provided drivers and a kernel. Drivers are not a big proplem - they are standalone modules (and some (if not most) hermes drivers would work on trinity without changes), but kernel... As wor WinCE 5 (on wich WM 6 is based) kernel is monolithic executable consisting of both microsoft and oem stuff (things have changed in WinCE 6 but this is irrelevant now). Though WM 6 and WM 5.0 have the same major version of WinCE as their base minor version is higher in 6.0 and as I havn't deeply examine this issue I could not surely say if kernel from WM 5.0 would work for WM 6.0 but I can surely say that (unmodifyed) kernel from hermes would not work on trinity: devices are very similar but have some differences in gpio mappings and hermes kernel use slightly different memory map (and "porting" boot partition from hermes to wizerd (if such thing realy taken place) is hardly possible without considering kernel "some [removed] oem stuff").

So we have three opportunities:
1) Try to transplant kernel from WM 5.0 trinity rom to WM 6.0 hermes. Chances of working is 50/50 by my guesses.
2) Patch hermes kernel to support trinity hardware. Quite hardcore task indeed but possible.
3) Wait for some leaked (or official ;) ) rom.

it is rather easy to try 1st (and I'll try it when I'll have couple of free hours) and too unreasonable to dig in 2nd while 3rd is somewhat probable.

[kyphur]

I don't read russian, could you be so kind as to OM me a direct Download link to the Wizard Rom?

Again I will say, personally I hope this works out for everyone. I'm simply being cautious that's all.

Heck you get it to work (and have confirmed by several Senior Members and an experienced Rom Builder here) I'll even throw $100 US your way. I don't buy a "Pig In a Poke (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pig_in_a_poke)" though so payment is only after confirmed success of project.

@kyphur
You can find my roms on russian forums. Lvsw've done his roms for trinity and prophet.

Thread was called 'donation thread' so if somebody wnt to give his contribute he will do it.

[FuzzMunky]

I'm sure everyone here appreciates your cautions. But what is going on here is not a trade between the supply and demand from business operator to customer, involving consumer rights or terms and conditions. This is a trade in the currency of generosity and faith; we offered donations before lvsw and mun_rus accepted. It is a gamble, and mun_rus and lvsw have made this 100% clear. It might not work.

It is worth a punt to me, and judging by the response, to many others as well.

Besides, if this goes belly up my donation will still be well-spent, since it was lvsw who cooked the ROM which pretty much every HTC Trinity owner is running right now. So the suspension of disbelief is because I already have been given something very valuable by lvsw.

[mun_rus]

@Des

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[Des]

@Des

MSXIPKernel
723fb954-d931-4348-b672-82a188e587b5.rgu
busenum.dll
cachefilt.dll
certmod.dll
coredll.dll
crypt32.dll
device.exe
devmgr.dll
diskcache.dll
encfilt.dll
fatfsd.dll
fatutil.dll
filesys.exe
fsdmgr.dll
fsreplxfilt.dll
hd.dll
imgfs.dll
mspart.dll
mxip_lang.vol
osaxst0.dll
pm.dll
regenum.dll
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boot.hv
boot.rgu
cecompr.dll
ceddk.dll
FLASHDRV.DLL
nk.exe
relfsd.dll
And where are two kernels ? (it is not 100% correct, but for WinCE < 6.0 kernel is nk.exe).

[mun_rus]

i wanted to say about 2 parts of Kernel. Here it is.
You are wrong about nk.exe, coz this info from tyttn's wm6 rom

[Des]

i wanted to say about 2 parts of Kernel. Here it is.then we should come to clear definition what kernel is: everything that runs in kernel mode or just kernel providing core functions and everything else is drivers/kernel loadable modules/libraries/e.t.c. In all my posts I follow second definition.
You are wrong about nk.exe, coz this info from tyttn's wm6 romwm6 is still based on CE 5.

[export800]

I usually blow my money on hookers and beer so I figure donating some cash to some cookers here is better than how I usually spend my money.

[stinger32]

export800--> Hahaha best comment for a very long time. I must say that the donation thread seems to be a success afterall, We got the hermes foks in here. Maby some good will come from it.

[dew.man]

Just curious: with all this generosity, how many of the people throwing money at lvsw and mun_rus have sent anything to Des, Pof, Bot, or any of the other pioneers that made unlocking/cooking possible?

[prsnow]

Just curious: with all this generosity, how many of the people throwing money at lvsw and mun_rus have sent anything to Des, Pof, Bot, or any of the other pioneers that made unlocking/cooking possible?

How do you know they haven't already? They also have PayPal donation accounts.

[paletta7]

I'll put 10$

[ZakMcRofl]

Just curious: with all this generosity, how many of the people throwing money at lvsw and mun_rus have sent anything to Des, Pof, Bot, or any of the other pioneers that made unlocking/cooking possible?

Like I said, money destroys communities. It has already begun.

[cedrick]

Like I said, money destroys communities. It has already begun.

On that point I agree, donation is ok... asking for money is not :p

[itlinux]

I will put extra 20 dollars if I can get it in italian.

[Wolfyy7]

Check it, I spent 700 bills for this phone, *courtesy of R&D Marketing, aka Ron greatest salesperson ever* so I think it is more than fair to request WM6 for our P3600 phones. Thank you.

[vasta.antonio]

Hmm over 1600 people have poped in here and only 11 have been contributed money to the WM6 development, then I guess that all of you that doesnt contribute wont use the rom that lvsw and mun_rus going to produce? or maby you can ask htc for a wm6-rom!


I'll excuse my English. to the reason, but they are not a lot daccordo with you! I am one of that unfortunately puo he does not donate of it moneies, for several reasons… but it would not be right to make rom a WM6 and then to give it little elect ones… we are not here in order to make a bisnes but in order to amuse to us and to share experiences! there is who offers the own one esperieza to who wants to learn… I know that behind there is much job, but the sodisfazzione that it will give this job would have to be enough in this place, not creeds! you take for es. mun_rus, than alone it offers to I'll its engagement for all we, without to ask null… I hour I cannot donate moneies, but I have a large one database of programs that are ready to offer to who puo not to have them, this can make… other not! me dispiace, if I could I would have given a lot! therefore I hope that you put from part these things and who will be able will help like puo, who will not make it, I hope has however the possibility to have WM6 for trinità… is sure that you will have the gratefulness of many persons… Antonio

[AkshayGenius]

mUn has already provided us with a working WM6 ROM, what more do you want? Go thank him now!

[orenmoran]

10 $ from me too