Progress of WM6 for Trinity Project

[mo7al]

So I thought about opening this thread to discuss the technical progress of the "WM6 for Trinity" project...

Hopefully we can keep it technical only!

Goodluck

[Cr7pt0r]

It's a dead end :). Thank you

[bepe]

Just some of my experiences with that....
Porting the Kernel:
I think it makes more sense to use a device which already has a WM6 ROM for experiments on that tropic.
What I've tried...
Device: Universal
ROMs: Full working WM5 and WM6
1. I extracted the kernel from the WM5 ROM
2. I implanted it into the WM6 ROM
3. The offset of the boot partition header is written to one place of the Kernel, so I changed that to match the WM6 ROM
4. Flashed the ROM
Result: Black screen

this shows that the Kernel is not compatible...

theoretical issues:
- it did not work cos I only replaced the Kernel, but not the other OEM files
(don’t think so, cos the other OEM files should be stand alone drivers)
- there is another offset written to nk.exe
(no, cos I wrote a program to completely reorganize the boot section [except of the kernel] and it worked after changing the one known header offset)
- I missed something else or made a mistake...
(No one is perfect)

[Des]

At first one terminology agreement: when I speak about (wince 5.x) kernel I speak 'bout nk.exe only (mun_rus counts as a kernel all stuff in boot partition. Formaly (excepting some modules/files) this is correct too but a bit uncommon). As near as I can tell bepe as well calls kernel nk.exe only. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Now my expirement:
rexipped kernel from trinity rom placed in to the hermes one. result: two splash screens then halt. Splash screens means that kernel succesfully passed at least OEMInit. But nothing more. There are two possibilities:
1) kernel is not compatible
2) i've screwed up something during rexipping. complete toolchain is not ready yet and operation is semi-manual. However I have positive expirence in transplating kernel from one WM5 rom to another (with the same rexipping).

I'm giving up particular task of bringing WM6 for trinity for now. And continue to work on rexipping toolchain. Would it make any good for trinity or not it would be useful on many other tasks.

3. The offset of the boot partition header is written to one place of the Kernel, so I changed that to match the WM6 ROMIf you are placing sections on different addresses there are many more addresses that should be fixed except romhdr. In addition there is need to fix extensions ptr and copyinfo as well.
(no, cos I wrote a program to completely reorganize the boot section [except of the kernel] and it worked after changing the one known header offset)I've tested your program: either I've missed something or it is unable to rexip (put sections on different places and perform fixups) modules. However boot partition produced after straightforward unpack->pack procedure on 100% working trinity wm5 rom refused to boot.

[MacGuy2006]

Oh, no, don't give up!

Seems like you know your stuff, can you just team up with the others, or point them into the right direction (if you think they are straying?)

[bepe]

As near as I can tell bepe as well calls kernel nk.exe only.
right, kernel is the same as nk.exe... ok, let’s use nk.exe
If you are placing sections on different addresses there are many more addresses that should be fixed except romhdr. In addition there is need to fix extensions ptr and copyinfo as well.

Yes, I placed every possible section to a new place except of nk.exe... that was part of the experiment to see if there are more addresses...
... and there are not, because the rom worked after that
3xcopyinfo and extensions... yes, that’s clear offsets are part of the header... as I said my tool reorganized that without any problems
I think you misunderstand what I meant:
the physical address of the boot section header is written to the NK.exe
this is the beginning of a boot section:

FE 03 00 EA 00 00 00 00 | 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 | 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 | 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 | 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
45 43 45 43 68 BB 19 80 | 68 BB 19 00 00 00 00 00

red it the offset of the boot section header...

next you’ll see a part of the nk.exe o32[0] data (MODULES\nk.exe\S000)

77 00 73 00 5C 00 00 00 | 68 BB 19 80 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 | 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 | 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 | 6D 00 73 00 63 00 6F 00

could this be the problem why your nk.exe port did not work?

I've tested your program...
I did not finish the program... it worked for me with my universal rom... I think mun told me it would work on hermes too, at least dumping rebuilding...

[bepe]

sorry,
However I have positive expirence in transplating kernel from one WM5 rom to another (with the same rexipping).
that means you must have changed the header offset inside nk.exe
or it was the same offset... but dnot think so :)

[Des]

Oh, no, don't give up!Breaking through to bring WM6 on trinity without appropriate fully-working toolchain is just a useless waste of time: now it takes 'bout couple of hours to rexip module (or kernel wich is by some means a module too) check if everything is done correct (and still no warranty of that) and put it to rom. Moreover I'm hm... 80% sure that I've transfered kernel properly in my expirement wich means that probably there is no need to break through at all :(
From another side with toolchain finished it would be possible to bring WM6 to trinity (or any other modern WM5 device) in minutes or surely state impossibility of that.if you think they are strayingI've clearly stated that at least lwsv is straying but nobody listened :)/:( However we have contacts via pm and I'm ready to provide some not too time consuming help.

ps:
@bepe
Result: Black screenjust noticed it. I can't be sure 'bout universal but on himalayas and trinity first splash is drawn on early stages of OEMInit (wich is called on very early stage of kernel startup). Black screeen using kernel surely compatible with hardware 99.9% means that kernel even have not started.

[Des]

that means you must have changed the header offset inside nk.exeas well as many others. pointers to data/code in any moved section should be fixed. And in romhdr pointer to extensions (wich are located in kernel, in trinity/hermes rom just after pointer to romhdr) should be fixed as well. And if you move any section wich copy list points to (nk.exe data section for example) it should be fixed too.

[bepe]

The XIPPort tool dumps a xip section and rebuild it identical, just the order of the TOC entries and the copy entries is not the same.
Also the "realloc P" part works perfectly, without changing something it should allocate the things the same way as MS did it using Platform Builder.

just how I've done it:
1. I dumped the xip.bin
-> rebuilding or reallocating using my tool would result in a identical xip section
2. I deleted the two modules: hd.dll, osaxst0.dll
-> both are not needed, just for debug info
3. Recalculated the whole xip section using my tool
-> reallocating in this state does not create a identical xip section because the deleted modules are using the place next to nk.exe... but reallocating means to fill that with the other modules, so everything after the first nk.exe section is on a new place
4. also the romhdr offset has been changed, so I changed it inside nk.exe

flashing, and the rom is working

[Des]

Also the "realloc P" part works perfectly, without changing somethingit is good. until you do not need to reallocate modules sections (because of overlapping regions for example) or you are not moving the kernel. But if you do you should refixup affected module images to get working rom.

[mun_rus]

flashing, and the rom is working
Very strange..I changed nothing then I cliked "realoc P" and flashed new boot section, but my wizard stucked on spl screen. Any thoughts? I compare maps, after realloc procedure it were some chages in Trueffs real addr area

[mun_rus]

I started to compare some data inside nk.exe of tytn and trinity
I was very impressive when i saw GPS in tytn's kernel)

tytn's wm6 nk.exe (Built on Dec 17 2006)

...
.text:8000528C 00000018 unicode [D :: GPS]
.text:800052A4 00000018 unicode [D :: RIL]
.text:800052BC 0000001A unicode [D :: SIR ]
.text:800052D8 00000018 unicode [D :: FIR]
.text:800052F0 00000016 unicode [D :: CF]
.text:80005308 00000024 unicode [D :: SERIAL_BT]
.text:8000532C 0000001E unicode [D :: SERIAL]
.text:8000534C 0000001C unicode [D :: AUDIO]
.text:80005368 00000022 unicode [D :: BACKPACK]
.text:8000538C 0000001A unicode [D :: WLAN]
.text:800053A8 00000016 unicode [D :: SD]
.text:800053C0 0000001E unicode [K :: KERNEL]
.text:800053E0 00000018 unicode [D :: SPI]
.text:800053F8 00000020 unicode [D :: BATTERY]
.text:80005418 0000001E unicode [D :: TOUCHP]
.text:80005438 00000018 unicode [D :: KEY]
...


trinity's wm5 nk.exe (Built on Dec 12 2006)

...
.text:80005AB4 00000018 unicode [D :: GPS]
.text:80005ACC 00000018 unicode [D :: RIL]
.text:80005AE4 0000001A unicode [D :: SIR ]
.text:80005B00 00000018 unicode [D :: FIR]
.text:80005B18 00000016 unicode [D :: CF]
.text:80005B30 00000024 unicode [D :: SERIAL_BT]
.text:80005B54 0000001E unicode [D :: SERIAL]
.text:80005B74 0000001C unicode [D :: AUDIO]
.text:80005B90 00000022 unicode [D :: BACKPACK]
.text:80005BB4 0000001A unicode [D :: WLAN]
.text:80005BD0 00000016 unicode [D :: SD]
...


There are much simmilar but in diffrent offsets. Hmm probably we can try use tytn's kernel in some way

[Des]

I started to compare some data inside nk.exe of tytn and trinity
I was very impressive when i saw GPS in tytn's kernel)Nothing impressive in that most htc devices (especially such kindred) share common codebase. If you look deeply you can find even wallaby echo in modern devs firmware.Hmm probably we can try use tytn's kernel in some wayYes we could. As devices are very similar kernels are the same for 99.9%. But very similar does not mean identical: at least gpio purposes are different and I've strong feeling that there are another minor hw diffs making impossible direct usage of hermes kernel. And as you have some reveng experience you could imagine how hardcore task would be finding out that differences and fixing them (and what probabilities of getting stable working kernel at the end are).

[FuzzMunky]

I don't want to tread out of my depth, but could you just explain what it is that HTC would need to do to customise the WM6 Rom for Trinity? Is it just one file (whatever XIP is or nt.exe??)? I mean how much of a big job would it be for them?

This leads on to my second paragraph; is there anyway of slyly contacting an engineer at HTC to syphon off this file (presuming it is a small file that would give you the answers you need)? Is this frowned apon in the xda-developer industry? Or is this common practice? Do any of you know someone at HTC? Could Orange leak this file? Or would they just get HTC to write their ROMS?

I don't want to stand here flaunting myself in my nappy but I just don't know about these things...

Thanks for answering ;)

[Des]

what it is that HTC would need to do to customise the WM6 Rom for Trinity?I'm almost sure that nothing except they've already done. But I'm sure as well that they are not going to release WM6 for trinity: look they have a bunch of (not so different) new devices needed to be sold and releasing new os for (olready sold) old devices would not be a very wise idea from a sales department point of view.

[FuzzMunky]

No, I'm sure there won't be an official release, but I was talking more about an unofficial leak of a file.

[mo7al]

Looks like the progress is slow

[mun_rus]

No, I'm sure there won't be an official release, but I was talking more about an unofficial leak of a file.

There is no wm6 for trinity yet...even test rom


Looks like the progress is slow
Yes..it's so. Now have to make my tests with wm6/wm5 roms on my wizard...Try to realease my thoughts and ideas..Im going to recieve trinity till end of nex week or begin of week after. So, i hope progress will speed up:)

[lvsw]

On the basis of which we shall do updating Rom for HTC_Trinity, I have already made and have successfully tested on Hermes - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1165177#post1165177

[JohnNTD]

Thanks,

John

[mo7al]

On the basis of which we shall do updating Rom for HTC_Trinity, I have already made and have successfully tested on Hermes - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1165177#post1165177

Promising news

[ericlin0122]

nice one!!
hope the problems will overcome soon.
good news

[ausdim]

Any news about the wm6 Progress??

Thank's :D

[Capetownboy]

How are things working out for WM6 :cool:

[ZakMcRofl]

Promising news

How is that promising?
Afaik there was already a leaked WM6 ROM out for hermes, he most likey used that as a base. I read his comment more like "I don't have an image to work with, what do you expect?".

[gianpy69]

How is that promising?
Afaik there was already a leaked WM6 ROM out for hermes, he most likey used that as a base. I read his comment more like "I don't have an image to work with, what do you expect?".

I think they're waiting for Trinity hardware to go ahead.

Gianpy69

[dew.man]

I think they're waiting for Trinity hardware to go ahead.

Gianpy69

Interesting! Before the donations started, they were working on it and were close, but getting a new Trin was going to speed things up. Now they're just waiting on the device?

Don't get me wrong - I don't want to be negative and hope that they come through, but repackaging an existing WM6 update for Hermes is hardly proof-of-concept!

[mo7al]

It is unbelievably quite here!!!

[Capetownboy]

Hello HI , is there any thing we can do to help speed up the dev of WM6 for Trinity

[Matterhorn]

Hello HI , is there any thing we can do to help speed up the dev of WM6 for Trinity
It looks like you will be able to download it from Dopod (not confirmed) in a few months so a leak is most likely forthcoming...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298017

[prsnow]

It looks like you will be able to download it from Dopod (not confirmed) in a few months so a leak is most likely forthcoming...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298017


I'm not sure I really trust that thread. There's no proof he received that information from Dopod.

[Matterhorn]

I'm not sure I really trust that thread. There's no proof he received that information from Dopod.
Of course you are right, the proof is in the pudding :) . I seem to remember seeing other posts with quotes from HTC indicating that a WM6 upgrade was under consideration. We can just keep our fingers crossed because it is beginning to sound like that without a Trinity WM6 test rom being found somewhere it is going to be a difficult task to come up with a working WM6 Trinity.

[mun_rus]

Ive just recieved device:)
I'll try to cid unlock it with imeicheck unlocker today and begin my experiments with porting wm6

[mdacfan]

CID Unlock can also be done for free with pof Toolset , see

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=293957

good luck with your work !

[lvsw]

CID Unlock can also be done for free with pof Toolset , see

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=293957

good luck with your work !

Free CID Unlocker have not SPL 1.01 MFG

[mun_rus]

Ive done some work, that's my first report of that

WM6 Rom progress
1) Ive successfully unlocked my phone with imei-check unlocker. I have SPL 1.01 MFG now (thanx for lvsw for that). Now i can write OS.nb directly via mtty. It saves much time!

2) Ive started to port boot section from tytn's wm6 rom.
I tryed to use whole xip section from tytn, but after that my device even didn't turn on.
So i decided to try port only MS XIP kernel to trinity rom.
For that moment i have deleted: hd.dll and osaxst0.dll to get more free space in boot section.I successfully transfered device.exe and diskcashe.dll and my device work with it.
Procedure of transfering modules in boot section is very difficult, coz we should control a big area of memory addr. New modules are bigger that old, that's why i need to move old modules to another place. Another problem is that wm6 boot section has two new files encfilt.dll and cachefilt.dll. I think that i should transfer it too.

WM5 Rom progress
As for wm5 rom, i successfully made update for oem soft and etc.:

MMS=3_5_1_23C
Camera=4_00_26475
AVDecDll=1.00.070110.0
CYBERON=1_1_B60920
DShow=1_00_070215_ATI_RC3.5.6
mHub=6_0_35_0_ARM9T_ATI
PhoneCanvas=1_50_26506
PictureEnhancement=1.20.1214612.0
RingtonePlugin=1.00.061222.0
StreamingMedia=2_10_202715
Tao Java=11.1.7.1034
Zip=1_20_26058
SymbolPad=1_0_24075
Smart_Dialing=2_5_26478
Tao Java=11.1.7.1034
Zip=1_20_26058
SymbolPad=1_0_24075
Camera app has this interface now.
http://4pda.ru/forum/uploads/img-30831-display_1.jpg
I think you will be able to download new wm5 rom (lvsw&mUn edition) soon ;) while im continue working on wm6 rom.

[stinger32]

good work, I cant wait for a "YES WE DID IT" :-)

[Ali.XDA]

Good news so far.

[sintesi]

I can't wait. Give us the sugar:)

[Capetownboy]

This is the best news i had all weekend - good to hear

[prsnow]

Free CID Unlocker have not SPL 1.01 MFG

Do you (or anyone) have the SPL 1.01 MFG bootloader version for us to download please?

[gianpy69]

Do you (or anyone) have the SPL 1.01 MFG bootloader version for us to download please?

http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_BootloaderMFG

Gianpy69

[ausdim]

http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_BootloaderMFG

Gianpy69

This is for HERMES....

DO NOT FLASH THIS

This BRICK your device... :eek:

[gianpy69]

This is for HERMES....

DO NOT FLASH THIS

This BRICK your device... :eek:

Thank you for your advice. So the question is where is the right version?

Gianpy69

[mun_rus]

I paid for imeicheck team for this unloker. I will got MFG bootloader after unlocking procedure.

[prsnow]

I paid for imeicheck team for this unloker. I will got MFG bootloader after unlocking procedure.

@mun_rus: Is it possible to dump this bootloader version from your device?

[mun_rus]

@mun_rus: Is it possible to dump this bootloader version from your device?

I tryed to do it, by work of rbmc command is very strange. I'll try once more

[pof]

Why do you need MFG bootloader? Has nothing to do with WM6...

I have dumped it from trinity's imei-check unlocker, but imei-check will not like if we publish it :)

[stepw]

WM6 and SPL are not related, apparently, however mun_rus is pending its availability to proceed with his WM6 tests. It's faster to use MFG SPL, as you don't have to rely on updater app for flashing and you have unsigned data flashing capability too.

[repair htc]

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hi. anyone have a version trinity wwe (no operator)? the gps
rom i have is the dopod 1.23.

in portugal the last one is the:
HTC_P3600_WWE_1.15.405.5_6275_1.20.00.11_12201_Shi p.exe--- no gps
HTC_P3600_PTG_1.15.410.2_6275_1.20.00.11_12201_Shi p.exe---- no gps

the TMN and vodafone have in 26-03-07 the operator gps rom but its not a
extended

thanks

repair htc

[Hacker@lho]

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hi. anyone have a version trinity wwe (no operator)? the gps
rom i have is the dopod 1.23.

in portugal the last one is the:
HTC_P3600_WWE_1.15.405.5_6275_1.20.00.11_12201_Shi p.exe--- no gps
HTC_P3600_PTG_1.15.410.2_6275_1.20.00.11_12201_Shi p.exe---- no gps

the TMN and vodafone have in 26-03-07 the operator gps rom but its not a
extended

thanks

repair htc
PT:
Onde obtiveste essa informação? É de fonte segura ou apenas mais um rumor?

EN:
where did you get that info? From a true source or just another rumor?

[dew.man]

WM6 and SPL are not related, apparently, however mun_rus is pending its availability to proceed with his WM6 tests. It's faster to use MFG SPL, as you don't have to rely on updater app for flashing and you have unsigned data flashing capability too.

Ive done some work, that's my first report of that

WM6 Rom progress
1) Ive successfully unlocked my phone with imei-check unlocker. I have SPL 1.01 MFG now (thanx for lvsw for that). Now i can write OS.nb directly via mtty. It saves much time!


Pending availability :rolleyes:

[mun_rus]

Hi gyus.
Don't think that i forgot about this project. Ive been working for all last week...for whole days. This is my second report.

Wm6 progress
1) I made OEM part of rom that contains wm6 modules from tytn's rom and wm5 modules from trinity's rom. and this OEM part could boot trinity's wm5 rom!
2) I made SYS part from wm6 tytn's rom. The result of it that rom booted but GUI no...Charging is working and backlite also. After it booted there is a picture from main splash on the touchpad..
So I think, i need to port more files from XIP section. Im going to restructurize XIP section to insert new coredll.dll and filesys.exe
3) I found some usefull thing. Just try to look into any system module from wm5 rom, you will see in imageinfo.txt "Subsystemminor=1". And in the wm6 rom all tese value is 2. So that's why even solitare from wm6 rom won't work on wm5. But if we change this value in PE of file to 1, it will work on wm5 rom also) So for my wm6 rom i changed about 200 files for that thing...So boring work(
5) Btw, i could port whole sys part from tytn's wm6 rom to my wizard wm6 rom. So now i have rom with full 17736 build. Works perfect!

Wm5 progress
I think, with my experience I can make a real aku 3.5 (5.2.465 (build 15698)) rom for trinity with gps on!
But now have to rest for a few days...my eyes look like rabbit's.. ( And also should to make some work for administration of my town...and continue to write my diploma(


ps. Successfully helped to build real aku 3.5 for hp ipaq hx2490 (misar is going to release it soon). Now im helping to make aku 3.5 for Del x5

[hdubli]

gr8..simply gr8 keep it up

[saminegm]

great work

[tt]

keep trying.

I don't understand why trinity has problems with wm6, inside it's looked alike hermes.

[fluke]

Excelent work, thanks for the effort.
cheers

[KaYs3r]

hmmmm, I smell something.... what's cooking? it smells great :D

[mun_rus]

keep trying.

I don't understand why trinity has problems with wm6, inside it's looked alike hermes.

There is some difference beetween trin and tytn. That difference doesn't allow to use whole boot section from tytn. So you could try it by yourself.
Just cut some data from 32c800 ofset till FFFFFFFF (free) space (or till the head of imgfs) from tytn's rom and owerwrite this data from 32c800 offset of trinity's rom.
You device won't even turn on by pressing power button. So you just will able to reflash from bootloader.
But i strongly don't recomend to do this without MFG or Hard SPL by Olipro

[stinger32]

any news on the progress of wm6 for trinity?

[Cr7pt0r]

Yes as I said in first person: dead end !

[anakinz]

Maybe a release by HTC, who knows !

But I want it ! SIP fonctionalities seems very nice ;)

[Antimus]

Yes as I said in first person: dead end !

Then why are people like mun_rus still working on it? If he's working on it he must think it's possible.

Do you have solid proof that it's impossible? if so show it to us, otherwise this is a DEVELOPMENT forum, so let's allow people to develop shall we? instead of just saying "no, can't do it" to every suggestion that appears.

good boy

[KaYs3r]

Then why are people like mun_rus still working on it? If he's working on it he must think it's possible.

Do you have solid proof that it's impossible? if so show it to us, otherwise this is a DEVELOPMENT forum, so let's allow people to develop shall we? instead of just saying "no, can't do it" to every suggestion that appears.

good boy

I completely agree with you. Don't be so negative :mad:
You should be supporting the development of this project. I bet that if a WM6 release comes out you would be the first to install it, so, if you think it's not possible, justo don't coment on this topic. :mad:

You can do it :D

[jasjamming]

i would have had a wm6 for trinity within 3 weeks for you guys but noobs ruined it for all....

i have stopped cooking in the kitchen.

[dew.man]

i would have had a wm6 for trinity within 3 weeks for you guys but noobs ruined it for all....

i have stopped cooking in the kitchen.

Huh?

Do we need to start another donation thread:eek:

[KamaL]

i would have had a wm6 for trinity within 3 weeks for you guys but noobs ruined it for all....

i have stopped cooking in the kitchen.

I see what you mean Jasjamming... But please try to consider that mostly noobs reply to your threads asking stupid questions and complaining about this and that.

I'm really new in this field, just bought a trinity today, but i'm reading the wiki thoroughly and searching the right way in this awesome forum, everything is already explained and written, and I actually had to ask a chief only once, about how to backup/dump an entire rom, which i think was a legit question because of its complexity.

Anyway - I hope you will always remember that MOST of the members here really appreciate your work, and don't post noob questions. it's a huge community, so unfortunately we have to deal with that :( Remember that your releases are also spread in many other forums, and in many other foreign languages that can't come and participate because of the language.

It would be really great if you could begin developing a WM6 rom for the trinity, and if you plan to do so with a limited beta testers group, i'd be eally glad to be a part of this group.

Thanks for the excellent job you have done so far :)

[sammis]

i would have had a wm6 for trinity within 3 weeks for you guys but noobs ruined it for all....

i have stopped cooking in the kitchen.

You know, there is an old Latin saying which when translated to English says"Don't let the bastards get you down".
I don't know who the noobs were or what they did to ruin your work but I DO know what you have contributed to the community until now and that it has been greatly appreciated by a lot of people ,so, I hope for all our sakes you'll reconsider.

[KaYs3r]

i would have had a wm6 for trinity within 3 weeks for you guys but noobs ruined it for all....

i have stopped cooking in the kitchen.

Can you tell us what was the problem? :(

And please, reconsider continuing your great work... :o

[goodie]

I see what you mean Jasjamming... But please try to consider that mostly noobs reply to your threads asking stupid questions and complaining about this and that.

I'm really new in this field, just bought a trinity today, but i'm reading the wiki thoroughly and searching the right way in this awesome forum, everything is already explained and written, and I actually had to ask a chief only once, about how to backup/dump an entire rom, which i think was a legit question because of its complexity.

Anyway - I hope you will always remember that MOST of the members here really appreciate your work, and don't post noob questions. it's a huge community, so unfortunately we have to deal with that :( Remember that your releases are also spread in many other forums, and in many other foreign languages that can't come and participate because of the language.

It would be really great if you could begin developing a WM6 rom for the trinity, and if you plan to do so with a limited beta testers group, i'd be eally glad to be a part of this group.

Thanks for the excellent job you have done so far :)

i second that!

[mun_rus]

@all
as i said my hybrid rom () is bootable but it doesn't show GUI..coz of old version of coredll.dll and some other...
But at start it starts to connect via AS...and turns on the charger,
So need some time and i'll continue my work.

[KaYs3r]

:) That's great!

Thank you for your work :)

[KamaL]

@all
as i said my hybrid rom () is bootable but it doesn't show GUI..coz of old version of coredll.dll and some other...
But at start it starts to connect via AS...and turns on the charger,
So need some time and i'll continue my work.

Very nice :) Keep up the excellent work :D

Maybe you can consult the other gurus (Jasjamming and others) ... their experience can be really precious.

[mo7al]

Thank you mun_rus for trying to transport WM6 into the Trinity...
I wanted to add a comment here though!

This threat was meant to discuss, interact and share the technical information on how to get WM6 up and running on the Trinity.... so I am wondering why we are not discussing much info here... is mun_rus the only one trying? don't we have any other experts who are working on the project as well... I thought it would speed up the whole thing if we all shared all the info we have....

Now I am not a programming expert, otherwise I would give all of my help

Come on guys. I feel like Hermes owners are more faithful to their device and are working harder than is

Thank you mun_rus again and waiting to here from you and from the other people

[mun_rus]

@mo7al
Thanx)

@all
I had some free time and transfered still two moldules from wm6.
Now map of virtual adresses is


02000000 - 03dd0000 L01dd0000 NUL
03dd0000 - 03dd5000 L00005000 Virtual base address of cecompr.dll
03dd5000 - 03de0000 L0000b000 NUL
03de0000 - 03deb000 L0000b000 Virtual base address of FLASHDRV.DLL
03deb000 - 03df0000 L00005000 NUL
03df0000 - 03df6000 L00006000 Virtual base address of ceddk.dll
03df6000 - 03e00000 L0000a000 NUL
03e00000 - 03e0c000 L0000c000 Virtual base address of devmgr.dll
03e0c000 - 03e10000 L00004000 NUL
03e10000 - 03e18000 L00008000 Virtual base address of mspart.dll
03e18000 - 03e20000 L00008000 NUL
03e20000 - 03e26000 L00006000 Virtual base address of busenum.dll
03e26000 - 03e30000 L0000a000 NUL
03e30000 - 03e3a000 L0000a000 Virtual base address of imgfs.dll
03e3a000 - 03e40000 L00006000 NUL
03e40000 - 03e53000 L00013000 Virtual base address of fatfsd.dll
03e53000 - 03e60000 L0000d000 NUL
03e60000 - 03ed2000 L00072000 Virtual base address of crypt32.dll
03ed2000 - 03ee0000 L0000e000 NUL
03ee0000 - 03eed000 L0000d000 Virtual base address of pm.dll
03eed000 - 03ef0000 L00003000 NUL
03ef0000 - 03ef9000 L00009000 Virtual base address of fatutil.dll
03ef9000 - 03f00000 L00007000 NUL
03f00000 - 03f09000 L00009000 Virtual base address of fsreplxfilt.dll
03f09000 - 03f10000 L00007000 NUL
03f10000 - 03f16000 L00006000 Virtual base address of diskcache.dll
03f16000 - 03f20000 L0000a000 NUL
03f20000 - 03f35000 L00015000 Virtual base address of fsdmgr.dll
03f35000 - 03f40000 L0000b000 NUL
03f40000 - 03f44000 L00004000 Virtual base address of regenum.dll
03f44000 - 03f4e000 L0000a000 NUL
03f4e000 - 03fe4000 L00096000 Virtual base address of coredll.dll
03fe4000 - 03ff0000 L0000c000 Virtual base address of certmod.dll
03ff0000 - 80000000 L7c010000 NUL


But rom stoped to boot :(
I think there is 2 kind of posible problem:
1) I should transfer encfilt.dll and cachefilt.dll (coz there is no such files in wm5..but its part of MS xip kernel in wm6)
2) new coredll.dll probably doesn't work with old nk.exe.. But have to try it

[KaYs3r]

I really wish I could understand what mun_rus wrote :D

Thank you for your work mun_rus :)

[mun_rus]

I really wish I could understand what mun_rus wrote :D


sorry :)
I meant that these modules were transfered both with their virtual adreses.

03f4e000 - 03fe4000 L00096000 Virtual base address of coredll.dll
03fe4000 - 03ff0000 L0000c000 Virtual base address of certmod.dll
03ff0000 - 80000000 L7c010000 NUL


When we ported aku 3.5 to dellv51 it didn't boot with old filesys.exe and new coredl.dll. So when we transfered filesys.exe it booted.
So have to transfer filesys.exe at first

[KaYs3r]

sorry :)
I meant that these modules were transfered both with their virtual adreses.

03f4e000 - 03fe4000 L00096000 Virtual base address of coredll.dll
03fe4000 - 03ff0000 L0000c000 Virtual base address of certmod.dll
03ff0000 - 80000000 L7c010000 NUL


When we ported aku 3.5 to dellv51 it didn't boot with old filesys.exe and new coredl.dll. So when we transfered filesys.exe it booted.
So have to transfer filesys.exe at first

I'd really like to have the knowledge to help you, i see that you are probably almost alone in this project :(

You are doing a great job :)

Thank you

[vasta.antonio]

@all
as i said my hybrid rom () is bootable but it doesn't show GUI..coz of old version of coredll.dll and some other...
But at start it starts to connect via AS...and turns on the charger,
So need some time and i'll continue my work.

Pardoned my English. I wanted ringraziare mun_rus for the great job perhaps that is realizando with WM6 for trinity… creed anchio that others would have to help it, but this not a lot important! I would want to help but I do not know very… I hope that a rom will exit efficente that will be signed mun_rus!!! and memory also that mun_rus AKU 3.5.2 works also on other rom, great! I augur you a good job… I waited for with anxiety yours rom, than probably it will be one of the little WM6 available for this finishes them! Antonio :)

[tembares]

Excuse me, but mun_rus shows us a lot of nice memory-outputs, but I think there will be no WM6 output at last.
What the h*ll is he doing with YOUR money, because I didn't believe it from the first moment. All you guys paid him a Trinity, but what do you have?
HTC is quicker than mun_rus... and no, I can not do this job. I am just expressing my feelings.

[FuzzMunky]

Pardoned my English. I wanted ringraziare mun_rus for the great job perhaps that is realizando with WM6 for trinity… creed anchio that others would have to help it, but this not a lot important! I would want to help but I do not know very… I hope that a rom will exit efficente that will be signed mun_rus!!! and memory also that mun_rus AKU 3.5.2 works also on other rom, great! I augur you a good job… I waited for with anxiety yours rom, than probably it will be one of the little WM6 available for this finishes them! Antonio :)

Crikey... Google translations do a very strange job...

[ericlin0122]

Excuse me, but mun_rus shows us a lot of nice memory-outputs, but I think there will be no WM6 output at last.
What the h*ll is he doing with YOUR money, because I didn't believe it from the first moment. All you guys paid him a Trinity, but what do you have?
HTC is quicker than mun_rus... and no, I can not do this job. I am just expressing my feelings.


Good news, HTC just won a law sue (in Taiwan).
Hope their CEO feels happy, and push the upgrade WM6 soon.

[MacGuy2006]

Why do you guys think that HTC will upgrade the Trinity to WM6? In a few months new models will be shown to replace the current line. What exactly would be the marketing need for an OS upgrade of the old line?

Keep in mind, HTC would likely have to pay something to MS for the new OS, as well as for the development and subsequent support. Should I also expect an official upgrade for my old 8125 too?

As to mUn and LVSW, at least they are trying. We all knew it may or may not be possible to port WM6, and to some of us, having someone try, was worth the $10-$20.

What's the worst that can happen? They try, and at the end we don't get WM6. But hey, in the meantime, take a look at the two most popular cooked ROMs here, and see who the authors are....

I do hope though, that some others, who have the knowledge, would help out.

[mun_rus]

All you guys paid him a Trinity, but what do you have?
We don't have wm6 at the moment for trinity, but we have cool aku 3.5 roms for it. And Im stiil working on wm6, coz it's very hard process. If i had no trinity it, it wouldn't be even a little piece of wm6 progress and aku 3.5 roms


HTC is quicker than mun_rus... and no, I can not do this job. I am just expressing my feelings.
you are right, but HTC is manufacture, and me - just a student who is trying to do this job.

[ric h710]

When I donated my 30$ I thought it was like buying a lot, maybe I win or maybe i lose... but there will at least be a chance, If I hadn't could lost the money I donated I havent donated anything...
I think mun_rus / Lwsw do a great job for many of the Trinity users, someday there gonna be a WM6 rom I'm sure about that... until then I' happy to see AKU3.5.2 ROms or whatever...

[mikesol]

Damn straight, it's like buying a big scratch-and-win ticket. Maybe mun_rus will pull it off and live on in infamy for having made our Trinities even more kick-ass than they already are.

[brocils]

i will donate too .

[vasta.antonio]

Crikey... Google translations do a very strange job...

Crikey… also for me the much difficult translation from Italian English with translator!!!! But who to head understands! … NOT?:D Me Sorry,:) I have not learned English, but I have head and I understand you, I hope that you facades a effort, we are here in order to amuse to us with these decice and in order to confront experiences of all! Sorry to all… :rolleyes:

[Cr7pt0r]

Crikey… also for me the much difficult translation from Italian English with translator!!!! But who to head understands! … NOT?:D Me Sorry,:) I have not learned English, but I have head and I understand you, I hope that you facades a effort, we are here in order to amuse to us with these decice and in order to confront experiences of all! Sorry to all… :rolleyes:

I forgive you.

[Antimus]

Yes, we all forgive you, at least you translate what you say, some don't!

:)

[KaYs3r]

go mun_rus!!!
go mun_rus!!!
go mun_rus!!!

:D :p

[cmonex]

some people said mun_rus is alone. well i dont have a trinity (and NOT asking for one :) ), just a universal, but i know some arm asm (actually still learning but i can patch any module address for example), i've dealt with rom editing (and not using the easy rom kitchens b/c they are no good for pre-wm5 stuff, so all were done manually), and i have similar intentions with another device (ok not a full kernel port yet, but tweaking into the kernel). also i know someone who actually rewrote some CE kernel code and drivers for a device, while he only has access to disassembly. he's really cool but he's busy right now, maybe later.
don't get excited or anything, i'm still learning so all i'm saying is that if mun_rus wants help i'll try to get some *if* i can. not promising anything but i'd like to look into the project so lets keep the info to be shared coming. thanks.

[mun_rus]

@cmonex
Thanx!!! I wrote pm to you.

[bcrosswhite]

So is the WM6 ready now? If so, where can i download and will it include the GPS Feature?

[MacGuy2006]

So is the WM6 ready now? If so, where can i download and will it include the GPS Feature?

Might want to read the thread..., it contains the answer to your question.

[Jonsson]

So is there any news on WM6 progress?


from what i understand HTC will not release an upgrade to WM6, hopefully some of the other companies will(?).

/Jonsson

[cmonex]

@cmonex
Thanx!!! I wrote pm to you.

i replied now to your pm! :)

[brocils]

So is the WM6 ready now? If so, where can i download and will it include the GPS Feature?

you need to donate first !

[ZakMcRofl]

Why would ANYONE donate first?
I understand if its an aimed donation to allow a dev to buy a Trinity but they already have a test device. And so far they have achieved nothing in regards to WM6. I'm not saying that they'll never do but for now maybe you should considers that others may be better suited for the job.

If you really want to keep collecting donations it would make much more sense to put donations into a "bounty pot" for whoever releases the first WM6 rom. We all know the WM6 rom is out there, its just a matter of someone getting their hands on a device and dumping it.

[goodie]

Why would ANYONE donate first?
I understand if its an aimed donation to allow a dev to buy a Trinity but they already have a test device. And so far they have achieved nothing in regards to WM6. I'm not saying that they'll never do but for now maybe you should considers that others may be better suited for the job.

If you really want to keep collecting donations it would make much more sense to put donations into a "bounty pot" for whoever releases the first WM6 rom. We all know the WM6 rom is out there, its just a matter of someone getting their hands on a device and dumping it.

what do you base this on, just because we haven't got a working wm6 rom yet, some of us are willing to wait, because we haven't got the skills to do it ourselves! if you have? then post your rom!

[stinger32]

Why would ANYONE donate first?
I understand if its an aimed donation to allow a dev to buy a Trinity but they already have a test device. And so far they have achieved nothing in regards to WM6. I'm not saying that they'll never do but for now maybe you should considers that others may be better suited for the job.

If you really want to keep collecting donations it would make much more sense to put donations into a "bounty pot" for whoever releases the first WM6 rom. We all know the WM6 rom is out there, its just a matter of someone getting their hands on a device and dumping it.

"They" dont have a trinity, Lvsw have one but mUn doesnt and they live hundreds of miles from each other so how do you think mUn could build a WM6 rom without a device? What the f.... do you know about what they have achieved so far???? do you have a webcam installed over at mUn place or what? Wait and see and enjoy their wm5 build instead of nagging like an old bitch.

[RebelShadow]

Why would ANYONE donate first?
I understand if its an aimed donation to allow a dev to buy a Trinity but they already have a test device. And so far they have achieved nothing in regards to WM6. I'm not saying that they'll never do but for now maybe you should considers that others may be better suited for the job.

If you really want to keep collecting donations it would make much more sense to put donations into a "bounty pot" for whoever releases the first WM6 rom. We all know the WM6 rom is out there, its just a matter of someone getting their hands on a device and dumping it.

I don't think that statment is entirely accurate. I think MuN does have a trinity that was perchased for him (don't really care and quite frankly agree with), (if I'm wrong then a apologize to Mun) but there is progress and they HAVE ACHIEVMENTS. Not nesseraly for WM6 but both Mun and LVSW both have kick ass WM5 roms based off of parts of WM6. Judging from the advancemants of there WM5 roms I would say that is worth the price of admision. I would gladly donate just to keep the advanced WM5 roms coming.

Just my 2c worth.

[ZakMcRofl]

Well they may have some WM6 rom that doesn't boot, I'll give you that.
And yes, they make Aku 3.5 Roms that weren't available before.

But there have been many many people who build roms before and did research without demanding a single penny for it. Afaik they both have a Trinity now so there's no reason to ask for further donations.

Anyways, it was not my intention to start a flame war. I merely wanted to suggest to hold off further dontations until a reproduceable result has been achieved.

[hallatore]

"hold off further dontations.."
Please go learn the meaning of donating, it's not a pay-check :p
If you feel that you want to support them then donate, if you want to pay for a wm6 rom then go buy htc..

[mun_rus]

where did you find info that I'm still asking for donations ??

[ZakMcRofl]

where did you find info that I'm still asking for donations ??

You didn't, I was refering to brocils. Like I said, getting a development device is a valid reason to ask for donations.

The general problem is that there are people who have done a LOT for the scene without that many donations. Some of them would probably have the ability to get their hands on a WM6 rom if properly motivated.

Anyways, I really hope something comes of this project and if it does, I'll happily donate.

[KaYs3r]

You didn't, I was refering to brocils. Like I said, getting a development device is a valid reason to ask for donations.

The general problem is that there are people who have done a LOT for the scene without that many donations. Some of them would probably have the ability to get their hands on a WM6 rom if properly motivated.

Anyways, I really hope something comes of this project and if it does, I'll happily donate.

If you know so much, why don't you cook a WM6 ROM for us?

I'm sorry to say this to you, but you are a STUPID guy, writting STUPID things!!!!
If you don't like the work in here, don't come here, ok?:mad:

[ZakMcRofl]

If you know so much, why don't you cook a WM6 ROM for us?

I'm sorry to say this to you, but you are a STUPID guy, writting STUPID things!!!!
If you don't like the work in here, don't come here, ok?:mad:
First off all this is a public forum and I believe we're here to discuss.
Second off all I delivered as much of a Trinity WM6 Rom as mun_rus, lvsw or anyone else on this board: nothing at all.

True, they made Aku 3.5.2 Roms and I applaud them for it. I just don't see how more donations will speed up their research at this point.

A bounty on the other hand would motivate others to make or dump a Trinity WM6 rom.

[Azamat]

[...]
I just don't see how more donations will speed up their research at this point.[...]


Who says they want more donations?

[ZakMcRofl]

I never said they want more donations, its was some user who suggested to donate more. I was merely pointing out that more donations would not speed things up at all.

If you had read the thread you would have got that by now.

[KaYs3r]

First off all this is a public forum and I believe we're here to discuss.
Second off all I delivered as much of a Trinity WM6 Rom as mun_rus, lvsw or anyone else on this board: nothing at all.

True, they made Aku 3.5.2 Roms and I applaud them for it. I just don't see how more donations will speed up their research at this point.

A bounty on the other hand would motivate others to make or dump a Trinity WM6 rom.

Some guys have quited already because of ppl like you. They don't live to do a WM6 ROM, some have their own jobs, or have to study, this is a part time, so noone can make them work faster than they can.
This forum is public, but this thread is for ppl who are interested in supporting the project, not for guys like you. If you want to protest open your own thread. I think i'm not the only one thinking like this, and everyone would thank you if you don't post here anymore about this.

ok?

[dew.man]

Some guys have quited already because of ppl like you.
Sure about that? Maybe it's quite the opposite?

A "bounty" on a working WM6 rom, may indeed motivate others...


They don't live to do a WM6 ROM, some have their own jobs, or have to study, this is a part time, so noone can make them work faster than they can.
But then again, the whole premise of buying his Trinity was that it would speed WM6 development - not the weekly roll-out of "buggy" WM5 versions.


With all that said, can this thread go back to being about "Progress of WM6 for Trinity Project", rather than some personal flame-war?

[KaYs3r]

A "bounty" on a working WM6 rom, may indeed motivate others...

I agree with that, I just don't agree on how some guys attack the only ones that are working (or the only ones working and talking about it).

But then again, the whole premise of buying his Trinity was that it would speed WM6 development - not the weekly roll-out of "buggy" WM5 versions.

I don't know how hard is cooking a ROM based on others, but I think it's not that simple as you say, it has to take some time. Many of the donators aren't protesting.

With all that said, can this thread go back to being about "Progress of WM6 for Trinity Project", rather than some personal flame-war?

I agree.

[ovosleep2]

i alreday say wm6 exists for trinity, nobody believe me:

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=300467

[Stingray66]

i alreday say wm6 exists for trinity, nobody believe me:

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=300467

Now the noob question, where can we download this ROM? And who made it? Cause we would like to have some support, wouldn't we?

BTW I do think mUn tries to get WM6 on his bought Trinity, but the bad news is that there are only a few developers who understand his problems which he's facing now ... at least that's my conclusion when I'm ready these threads.

Fighting about payed donations doesn't solve his problems or LVSW's, maybe they even quit...
On the other hand, a bounty for the first developer who does make this WM6 ROM can give this project a boost to attract other developers (with other HTC devices).
I got €50,- here ... for the first guy who makes a bug-free clean(!) "official" full-speed, GPS enabled, WiFi working, etc. ROM. What I mean is a HTC / DOPOD alike ROM, a professional one .. but clean!
20,- for the first test ROM and 30,- extra for the bug-free one. Who bids equal or more? :D

My opinion is that mUn makes great ROM's for what I use of it. His ROM's even perform with TomTom 6.03 beter than any other ROM. They are great, except the buggy WiFi. That's the reason I use at the moment LVSW's ROM 1.25.05, I like to read the full details of the synced RSS feeds of Outlook 2007 in bed ... :) But I'm sure mun_rus will overcome the bug, it seems that he has more hours in a day than I have!

[mun_rus]

@Stingray66
as i said before.. I need only xip section..and i probably will be able to release 5.2.1413 (build 17913) for trin

[ovosleep2]

@Stingray66
as i said before.. I need only xip section..and i probably will be able to release 5.2.1413 (build 17913) for trin

tell me how i can give u xip section, what to do?

[mun_rus]

tell me how i can give u xip section, what to do?
great) check pm

[Stingray66]

@Stingray66
as i said before.. I need only xip section..and i probably will be able to release 5.2.1413 (build 17913) for trin

I dunno your technical stuff, but I do know you're trying and replying. Means to me, you're working and can communicate. Valuable to me as "simple" mobile tester, but heavy professional user.
So people who know this stuff, help him ... help yourself or someone else.
Make us :)

BTW I'll test you ROM, I'll give feedback in the other thread.

[maovalen]

There's an official communication about the devices that will be upgrade to WM6 next june and Trinity is not on list that includes the next devices:

HTC Advantage (Dopod U1000)
HTC TyTN (Dopod 838 Pro)
HTC S620 (Dopod C720W)
HTC P4350 (Dopod C800)
HTC P3300 (Dopod P800W)

In the same communications they said that the operator's feedback from their final customers will be the deciding factor to include the P3600 in the upgrade.

So I think is very appropiate to begin some kind of pression to HTC to include Trinity in their upgrade plans.

More information on CNET Asia site: http://asia.cnet.com/reviews/handhelds/0,39001709,62006873,00.htm

[KaYs3r]

Thank you, but we already knew that :)

[Gogle_V]

and the main reason why the trinity/P 3600/ d810 out of included product which to be upgraded to WM 6, i think its caused by the GPS built in feature.

U1000 GPS Enabled too but this product using Star Sirf III chipset
P 700 GPS PDA speciality and using Star Sirf III also
HTC TyTN (Dopod 838 Pro) not GPS enabling, and it can be upgrade
HTC S620 (Dopod C720W) same as above
HTC P4350 (Dopod C800) same as above
HTC P3300 (Dopod P800W) same as above

and the Trint using Qualcomm chipset for its GPS Machine....so i think the problem is on this Qualcomm chip.....:D

[Antimus]

BUT, the P3300 variant O2 XDA Orbit, has inbuilt GPS

[gianpy69]

BUT, the P3300 variant O2 XDA Orbit, has inbuilt GPS
All P3300 have GPS, but it's based on sirf III chip.

[neyz]

Heh all !

I got HTC on the phone and they said the reason the P3600 wasn't included in this list is because it's not selling as much as some other phones like the P3300 very famous in England but that if they got enough feedback from customers wanting WM6 they will eventually release it at some point.

Seems in any case our best bet are the people who are trying to port/dump WM6 for us on this forum :D

Good luck to you and thanks for your work, we appreciate !

[FuzzMunky]

It's not surprising. The P3300 has been available for ages and is available on all networks in some form (except orange). Therefore very attractive because of the subsidised prices when a network supports a particular phone. The P3600 on the other hand was not supported by any network officially until Orange came with the M700 about a month ago. But I would assume T-mobile do most business with PDA phones because of their fair use unlimited internet. Anyway, its a silly excuse they have given. If the P3600 wasnt very popular then they should write the tiny little bit of code that is required to make WM6 Rom. Therefore making it more attractive and likely a better seller.

The true situation is more likely that they like to hinder each phone in some important way, either a missing feature or a slow processor; P3300, or no WM6 support; P3600. This way they make sure there is never the perfect phone, so people will continue to want to upgrade. It's cynical but highly likely.

[Antimus]

Fuzzy might have hit the nail on the head there, after all, it's all about marketting, sales, money, not about the customers, if you've worked in marketting you'll know that.

[Super Sheep]

It's not surprising. The P3300 has been available for ages and is available on all networks in some form (except orange). Therefore very attractive because of the subsidised prices when a network supports a particular phone. The P3600 on the other hand was not supported by any network officially until Orange came with the M700 about a month ago. But I would assume T-mobile do most business with PDA phones because of their fair use unlimited internet. Anyway, its a silly excuse they have given. If the P3600 wasnt very popular then they should write the tiny little bit of code that is required to make WM6 Rom. Therefore making it more attractive and likely a better seller.

The true situation is more likely that they like to hinder each phone in some important way, either a missing feature or a slow processor; P3300, or no WM6 support; P3600. This way they make sure there is never the perfect phone, so people will continue to want to upgrade. It's cynical but highly likely.
In France P3300 is available as Orange SPV M650.

[FuzzMunky]

Yes, but the response from HTC above was concerning popularity in England. So my point is that in England this is not suprising, because "..."

[Gogle_V]

One of my friends, try to experiment flashing the D810/Trinity/P3600 with the OS ROM of WM 6. It works, the device was bootable, all of program functioning normally except those one; the GPS feature it can not initialize, now he back to reflash to OS WM 5 only..and the GPS back to work. that's it.

He thought me the main problem is why HTC won't update the trinity to WM 6 is the GPS feature cannot work under WM 6 OS ROM.:)

Sorry for my bad english.

[varma_in_ap]

Hi,

Thanks..howis performance of Trinity using WM6?

[Matterhorn]

One of my friends, try to experiment flashing the D810/Trinity/P3600 with the OS ROM of WM 6. It works, the device was bootable, all of program functioning normally except those one; the GPS feature it can not initialize, now he back to reflash to OS WM 5 only..and the GPS back to work. that's it.

He thought me the main problem is why HTC won't update the trinity to WM 6 is the GPS feature cannot work under WM 6 OS ROM.:)

Sorry for my bad english.
Maybe that's true, but won't the Kaiser have the same Qualcomm GPS chip as the Trinity? The rumor is that it will be coming with WM6 and be similar to the Tytn/Trinity inside.

[ecj123]

One of my friends, try to experiment flashing the D810/Trinity/P3600 with the OS ROM of WM 6. It works, the device was bootable, all of program functioning normally except those one; the GPS feature it can not initialize, now he back to reflash to OS WM 5 only..and the GPS back to work. that's it.

He thought me the main problem is why HTC won't update the trinity to WM 6 is the GPS feature cannot work under WM 6 OS ROM.:)

Sorry for my bad english.

hi can you upload your friends wm6 rom so one of our experts figure a way of loading the gps drivers thanks

[bepe]

yes, that would be great :) I'm sure we will find a way...

[neyz]

Arggg just.....dump ittttttt !! ^^

No seriously, i'm sure that it could help the experts which are on this forum, the quicker the dump, the better :d

[FuzzMunky]

One of my friends, try to experiment flashing the D810/Trinity/P3600 with the OS ROM of WM 6. It works, the device was bootable, all of program functioning normally except those one; the GPS feature it can not initialize, now he back to reflash to OS WM 5 only..and the GPS back to work. that's it.

He thought me the main problem is why HTC won't update the trinity to WM 6 is the GPS feature cannot work under WM 6 OS ROM.:)

Sorry for my bad english.

But you have to consider that when the Trinity first came out with WM5 there was no GPS functionality, but tricksters managed to fix it then. I have faith that these guys could do it again.... even easier this time.

[KaYs3r]

I still have my Holux 236GPSlim Bluetooth, no problem :D

I can wait again for the GPS ;)

[mun_rus]

I can make gps enabled rom..just need only xip..

[stinger32]

Can you (ovosleep2, Gogle_V) please dump the WM6 rom and send it to mUn! PLEASE.

[Antimus]

This feels like an abominable snowman all over again, I dont want to think that newbies make things up just for kicks, but given the "I've got the ROM" then silence that keeps happening, I dont think I have any other choice than to be pessimistic.

:(

[stinger32]

I agree and everything else is bonus

[FuzzMunky]

I think ovosleep is living up to his name. If only he had an alarm clock.

[Antimus]

I agree and everything else is bonus

exactly my view

[mmone3]

I'm still keeping my fingers crossed that the rom dump works.

[MacGuy2006]

Different people get turned on by the strangest things.

I hate to say it, but I have this feeling that some strange soul is getting their kicks by posting WM6 "sightings." Either a very lonely type, or just got tired of having a rubber ball in his mouth:-)

Anyway, I'd keep this thread focused on mUn, LVSW, and anyone else trying to meaningfully contribute to getting WM6 on the Trinity.

[FuzzMunky]

But just to rinse that last bit of faith out of those whose hopes are fading, the video of WM6 running on the Trinity must be authentic. The amount of time required to fake it would sponsor itself as one of the grandest wastes of time since airline managers decided to ban liquids on aircraft.

[ericlin0122]

we are owned guys, I think that guy'll never send it.

[neyz]

Maybe mun can give us some kind of "official" explanation ?
I think I remember reading somewhere that he was quite busy with university lately maybe that's why it's taking longer than we expected ?

[stinger32]

Maybe mun can give us some kind of "official" explanation ?
I think I remember reading somewhere that he was quite busy with university lately maybe that's why it's taking longer than we expected ?

Eehhh say what? Explain to me/us what kind and why mUn needs to give an explanation??? Do you think Rom was built on 1 day? Do you have any clue how much work thats behind it? Now if you please just sit back and relax and let mUn work instead of force him to answering this kind of b.............. posts

[neyz]

You need to chill out man, this post was written by someone who has WM6 on his trinity on the 20 :

Old 20-04-2007, 10:04 PM
ovosleep2 ovosleep2 is offline
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please be patient, i received instructions from mun_rus, pof and ZakMcRofl to make rom dump, i will try over the weekend and tell u.

That was 5 days ago, the only thing i was saying is PERHAPS mun could give us some feedback on how this rom dump went, if you call this forcing maybe you should sit back and have a drink instead of flamming on here..jeez don't you have anything better to do ?

[Antimus]

Given the level of communication from mun_rus already, if he HAD got the ROM dump, we would know about it.

Therefore I can only assume that there has been no communication from ovasleep, and likewise, no ROM.

[stinger32]

I dont flamming any1 in here.
No you didnt say PERHAPS mun could give us some feedback.
You said "Maybe mun can give us some kind of "official" explanation?"
Thats not the same. What does he need to explain? He will release it when he its ready, as simple as that.

[Antimus]

We're such a happy group on here sometimes, makes you want to get round a campfire with some toasted marshmallows and sing songs :)

[neyz]

It is actually the same meaning : asking politely for an update on the progress is possible (not only the release) and understanding that he might not have the time right now because of uni. I didn't write "GIVE US AN EXPLANATION !!" if you can't get the subtle difference don't bother.

He doesn't NEED to give any kind of explantion and you don't NEED to be a jerk either.. this is off topic anyways and we get your point.


fyi : http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/learningenglish/grammar/learnit/learnitv162.shtml

[FuzzMunky]

I will act as marriage counsellor.

Stinger, you have served to highlight a cynical interpretation of neyz words and in that sense have escalated this issue beyond what most people initially read. But your loyalty to mun_rus is admirable and well placed.

Neyz, Stinger isnt being a jerk, he is just defending mun_rus and misinterpreted the emotion behind your request from mun_rus.

Next week we will play some trust exercises.

Final Thought.
It's easy sometimes when you are dependent on someone elses generosity to satisfy the desire you have for new upgrades, to forget the humility to be polite to and about that kind person who is giving their time for you. It is also easy at times to feel let down by them if they do not respond to the needs of their dependees, but think for a second... they really owe you nothing and anything they do give you is a kind act of sharing.
See you all next time.
Take care of yourselves..... and each other.

[Azamat]

HAHAHahaha... WOW!!!

You couldn't have made that up. Could you give me the number of your counsellor, it's sounds like he (or she) knows what he's talking about.... :D

[daloz]

Word

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Trinity

[Antimus]

amen reverend

[Hoash]

Hello,

I thing that it could be a good idea to push harder on the Petition for HTC to release WM6, when more then 1000 will sign up we will have some power do to that. So please go and sign up.

[neyz]

FuzzMunky, I sense great wisdom in you :D

[Antimus]

Hello,

I thing that it could be a good idea to push harder on the Petition for HTC to release WM6, when more then 1000 will sign up we will have some power do to that. So please go and sign up.

I very much doubt that petition will get even a second glance by HTC. Also, posting here, on a thread for updates on a cooked WM6 ROM, is a bit silly, as anyone reading this has almost certainly read the post regarding the petition and signed it, if they think it'll do any good.

Let's just leave this topic for actual updates now, I know I have joined in with the off-topic remarks, but tis over now.

[AkshayGenius]

From what I understand from this thread - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1238105#post1238105 - that wm6 is comin out for de dopod 810pro, it means it will work on the trinity, so an official update should be available soon
Hope, just hope

[grega_slo]

I`m praying hard like never before:)

[AkshayGenius]

I really cant understand why wm6 for the p3600 is takin so much time, its over a month, for wm6 release, and we haven't still worked out a rom dump for it. I really appreciate those people working on this, as HTC doesn't seem to be intrested in doing so.

[racerx_]

how about you appreciate the people working on it, and stop bugging them.. It'll be ready when it's ready. This is a developer forum, not a ROM vending machine

[export800]

Besides even if it was a ROM Vending Machine... don't shake the machine.

[Nelkz]

Hello all i dont know if this will be of any use to you but i just saw this (http://www.coolsmartphone.com/news3216.html)

its not for the trinity but might have elements of use...as its for a t-mobile Dash
might be of use to you master chefs out there... :rolleyes:

[Azamat]

DUDE!!!

ovosleep2 dumped a rom: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1241821&posted=1#post1241821

[Nelkz]

Hello all i dont know if this will be of any use to you but i just saw this (http://www.coolsmartphone.com/news3216.html)

its not for the trinity but might have elements of use...as its for a t-mobile Dash
might be of use to you master chefs out there... :rolleyes:


-------------------------------
oops i bit slow lol

:) good work

[mun_rus]

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1241908&postcount=106

[Hajaz]

lease let us test it Mun_rus. :)

[Matteo66]

wow this is a good news.

Post it to test please, we cannot wait

[daghood]

Excellent news, you're the best !!!

[turcomora]

mun you are the best. Please let me know how to show you my support for your hard work. You do deserve some compensation for your hard work. I am sure that I am not alone in this sentiment. I may not be able to contribute directly in the development of a rom, but I can help to compensate those who work hard to produce something for our community. Thanks

Mauricio

[goodie]

Mun_rus you're "THE MAN":)

[ericlin0122]

holy crap!!!
Cant image my trinity will run on wm6!!!
THANKS MAN!!!!

[Benzin]

«You do deserve some compensation for your hard work. I am sure that I am not alone in this sentiment»


Fully agree with Mauricio Turcomora. Please tell us the way. Congratulations Mun-Rus!!!

[jjplayground]

I guess I am blind... but I can not find the rom to flash it to my p3600...

Where is it?

Thanx to all!!!

[Antimus]

It is currently being created and major bugs removed by mun_rus and any other developers that are working on their own.

He doesnt want to make freely available a ROM that could brick everyone's device.

Have patience!!

[lazarusis]

Does anybody have any contact of mun_rus. It is time to wake him up ! :-)
Congratulations Mun_rus and tell us the way, how to thank you a bit.

[stinger32]

We had an donation going on here for mUn earlier here it is again on request.
Here is a donation link for thoose that feels that mUn should get some credit for his work on releasing WM6 for Trinity/Htc P3600.

https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_xclick&business=stinger32%40bredband%2enet&no_shipping=0&no_note=1&tax=0&currency_code=SEK&lc=SE&bn=PP%2dDonationsBF&charset=UTF%2d8

[ausdim]

We had an donation going on here for mUn earlier here it is again on request.
Here is a donation link for thoose that feels that mUn should get some credit for his work on releasing WM6 for Trinity/Htc P3600.

https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_xclick&business=stinger32%40bredband%2enet&no_shipping=0&no_note=1&tax=0&currency_code=SEK&lc=SE&bn=PP%2dDonationsBF&charset=UTF%2d8

I dont see anything about mun_rus only i see your name up in the paypal page...

stinger32@bredband.net

How you can confirm the money goes to mun_rus??

Thank's :D

[Azamat]

Edit: A big mistake was posted here...

[KaYs3r]

FINALY!!!!! :D

Thank you everyone (mun_rus and everyone who helped him) :D

[stinger32]

Azamat-->To clear things up here and mUn will be in here and confirm this. The thing is that mUn lives in Russia and they are not allowed to recieve money from the outside so I'm helping him collect and then transfer the money directly to him.

[mun_rus]

I dont see anything about mun_rus only i see your name up in the paypal page...

stinger32@bredband.net

How you can confirm the money goes to mun_rus??



All is ok, thanx:)
Russian accounts coudn't recieve any donations.. so stinger made a link for me.

btw, I don't know where to post new rom?

[Nadavi]

New topic in this forum

NEW WM06 rom MUN_RUS WM06 - version 1 for tritnity.


:)

Nadavi

[private69]

Hello,



thanks a lot for your great job.

You will post the rom this morning or afternoon ?


@++++

[ausdim]

All is ok, thanx:)
Russian accounts coudn't recieve any donations.. so stinger made a link for me.

Ok sorry to stinger...


btw, I don't know where to post new rom?

Open a new thread.... :D :D :D

[kaltera]

Hi,
I'm knew to xda, I've got a trinity and I would like it to work with WM6 but I don't really know how donations work

HWHat is the amount that I've got to donate to get that WM6 cooked ROM ?

Or from a certain amount obtained by mun_rus, the ROM will be available for free ?

Can someone clear this up for me ?

[KaYs3r]

mun_rus, is the ROM safe for noobs like me? :p
Is there a chance to brick our Trinity flashing the ROM?
Is it simple to flash?

THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!! :)

[stinger32]

kaltera-> You dont HAVE to donate but if you think that mUn deserves a donation for his work you should donate, otherwise dont.

[Azamat]

Azamat-->To clear things up here and mUn will be in here and confirm this. The thing is that mUn lives in Russia and they are not allowed to recieve money from the outside so I'm helping him collect and then transfer the money directly to him.

I am really sorry, I didn't know it was like that.
I apologise (something that happened a lot the past day... )

I will remove my post...

[daghood]

Same question, is it easy to flash or should I do anything else before flashing ? I am using the french version of trinity!

Dag

[ausdim]

btw, I don't know where to post new rom?

What did you do??
You finish the cooking part?? Did you upload it ??

Please i chek all the thread's every 1 minute... :D

[neyz]

Same here lol, i'm now thinking i should go and have lunch to give the time needed for the upload and just come back to see the new posted link to the rom :D

[Antimus]

Wherever it's posted I think it'll be very quickly maxed out on downloads when it does appear :)

[Plastriq]

*drums fingers on desk* :D so excited

[mun_rus]

mun_rus, is the ROM safe for noobs like me? :p
Is there a chance to brick our Trinity flashing the ROM?
Is it simple to flash?

THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!! :)

Just run RUU :)
Plz, wait a little bit, i need to reupload my rom. And i'll post new therad after that

[uwashock]

Can't wait for new ROM.

Well done mun_rus and everyone else who contributed.

[KaYs3r]

Just run RUU :)
Plz, wait a little bit, i need to reupload my rom. And i'll post new therad after that

Great job :D

I would kiss you if you were a girl LOL :D

[Azamat]

Great job

I would kiss you if you were a girl LOL

What makes you think he isn't a girl... ;)
Did you ever meet mUn ?

This is the internet, anybody can be anybody.
Let's see, he's russian, maybe mUn is really Anna Kournikova. :D :D :D

[Plastriq]

What makes you think he isn't a girl... ;)
Did you ever meet mUn ?

This is the internet, anybody can be anybody.
Let's see, he's russian, maybe mUn is really Anna Kournikova.
In that case, please post pics with the ROM :D

[KaYs3r]

What makes you think he isn't a girl... ;)
Did you ever meet mUn ?

This is the internet, anybody can be anybody.
Let's see, he's russian, maybe mUn is really Anna Kournikova. :D :D

HOW!!
That would put WM6 away from my mind lol :D

[kog]

What makes you think he isn't a girl... ;)
Did you ever meet mUn ?

This is the internet, anybody can be anybody.
Let's see, he's russian, maybe mUn is really Anna Kournikova.

if so, I am going to marry her :)
anyway mUn can be Maria Sharapova as well, let's say I would not mind :)

[saminegm]

In that case, please post pics with the ROM :D

In that case: Forget the ROM, post the pics:)

[Azamat]

Wow... We really are bored aren't we....

I think these apply to the most of us:
http://www.poster-paradise.com/system/webshop/showpic.php3?id=1330
http://justhurd.net/weblog/media/1/20050216-7215.jpg