The Best Athena! HTC Advantage X7500!!

[nuclear]

Place your pre-orders now American customers! I have found one company located in North America. I have already placed my pre-order. The quote was provided as 550 pounds and 600 pounds with all prices inclusive.

Here is the link

link 1 (http://www.972telecom.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&manufacturers_id=11&products_id=146)

or

link 2 <-- removed due to seller being fake!

link 1 is canadian customers and link 2 (removed)

It is widely available in Europe via many resellers for the same price! Enjoy! They will ship sometime in April. Brand new in box and SIM Free Unlocked and in English with a English Keyboard unlike T-mobile and Dopod!

[wu5262]

Place your pre-orders now American customers! I have found two companies. Both located in North America. I have already placed my pre-order. The quote was provided as 550 pounds and 600 pounds with all prices inclusive.

Here are the links

link 1 (http://www.972telecom.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&manufacturers_id=11&products_id=146)

or

link 2 (http://www.alibaba.com/catalog/11851690/Htc_Advantage_X7500_Mobile_Phones.html)

link 1 is canadian customers and link 2 is USA customers. Two links to avoid custom fee!

It is widely available in Europe via many resellers for the same price! Enjoy! They will ship sometime in April. Brand new in box and SIM Free Unlocked and in English with a English Keyboard unlike T-mobile and Dopod!

The second link look quite fake, that company is only selling 1 item which is the Advantage? um.....pls be careful there. And also as i see it's still on pre-order. You sure they have confirm that price already? In uk, we have lots of website pre-ordering Advantage but the price are all soo different. You might end up paying more or less because those price is not final yet.
I can only say this again: If you want the Advantage so bad, wait until April, it will be out by then, no point doing any pre-order, you will get the machine about the same time anyway. By april, lots of company will be offering Advantage, and you can choose the best deal then.

If you really want to place your pre-order, please take some time to phone up HTC and ask them whether the price is right and is it really available now? I have just phone them and the answer is HTC ADVANTAGE IS NOT OUT AND THE PRICE IS NOT FINAL. so please be careful here...........

[nuclear]

thanks i figured it out i removed that second link. filtering out my searches. that second seller was a fraud. thanks for revising me. wait isnt the price htcphonestore.com offering is $1500USD! >.> thats around 800 pounds and i believe thats a final price for now. but some resellers in europe offering 600 pounds. i saw it myself. and this canadian seller also offering 600 pounds. i trust the canadian seller.

[wu5262]

thanks i figured it out i removed that second link. filtering out my searches. that second seller was a fraud. thanks for revising me. wait isnt the price htcphonestore.com offering is $1500USD! >.> thats around 800 pounds and i believe thats a final price for now. but some resellers in europe offering 600 pounds. i saw it myself. and this canadian seller also offering 600 pounds. i trust the canadian seller.

The europe reseller are all on pre-order, that's why the price are all not final yet. The canadian seller might just got the price from those website. Because they are all on pre-order and price not fix, no much people is putting interest in ordering them now, they rather wait until the price is confirm. The 600 pounds might comes from DOPOD U1000 as well, since that's the confirm price. I will be surprise if Advantage is only £600. from 3GSM, the HTC people say it's going be about £700, that's what expansys and mobile planet heard as well.

Usually the machine is cheaper in Asia. So Advantage should be more than £600 (DOPOD U1000).

[nuclear]

The europe reseller are all on pre-order, that's why the price are all not final yet. The canadian seller might just got the price from those website. Because they are all on pre-order and price not fix, no much people is putting interest in ordering them now, they rather wait until the price is confirm. The 600 pounds might comes from DOPOD U1000 as well, since that's the confirm price. I will be surprise if Advantage is only £600. from 3GSM, the HTC people say it's going be about £700, that's what expansys and mobile planet heard as well.

Usually the machine is cheaper in Asia. So Advantage should be more than £600 (DOPOD U1000).
Well you will see its going to stick to £600 when it comes out. So you should return your Dopod and pre-order an Advantage X7500. See you have nothing to loose. you will be without a phone for a month latest but thats fine. You will gain a lot of things out of this. Let me brief you on the specs of the Advantage compared to Ameo and Dopod.

Firstly,
Performance wise all of them are equal
Secondly,
Quality/Body wise Advantage tops because it uses carbon fiber/magnesium alloy and ameo uses aluminum alloy with plastic just like dopod which is not a problem at all because they look like ipod but it just gets scratched up pretty easily. Plus HTC is a much better company than T-Mobile and Dopod since you are dealing with the original manufacturer and not a name branded t-mobile or dopod. HTC maintains its originality and you are getting it first hand instead of dopod changing the entire body and name branding it. So I make a wise choice and you are very impatient so you going to regret it. Anyways i am going to wait for 1 month or over 1 month for more people to start selling black one. i want to feel dopod before i make a decision. ameo looks awesome too. but i will wait for a month or two.

[wu5262]

Well you will see its going to stick to £600 when it comes out. So you should return your Dopod and pre-order an Advantage X7500. See you have nothing to loose. you will be without a phone for a month latest but thats fine. You will gain a lot of things out of this. Let me brief you on the specs of the Advantage compared to Ameo and Dopod.

Firstly,
Performance wise all of them are equal
Secondly,
Quality/Body wise Advantage tops because it uses carbon fiber/magnesium alloy and ameo uses aluminum alloy with plastic just like dopod which is not a problem at all because they look like ipod but it just gets scratched up pretty easily. Plus HTC is a much better company than T-Mobile and Dopod since you are dealing with the original manufacturer and not a name branded t-mobile or dopod. HTC maintains its originality and you are getting it first hand instead of dopod changing the entire body and name branding it. So I make a wise choice and you are very impatient so you going to regret it. Anyways i am going to wait for 1 month or over 1 month for more people to start selling black one. i want to feel dopod before i make a decision. ameo looks awesome too. but i will wait for a month or two.

I am tired of people who don't understand the relationship between DOPOD and HTC, they are basically the same company, DOPOD is the sister company of HTC which is responsible of dealing with customer. Just for those people who have not touch bothe Advantage and Dopod u1000, i have played with both and personally, i think the DOPOD U1000 has a better finish and also better quality. But again, that's my personal view.

For support wise, DOPOD will give so much better support than HTC, HTC has just recently start dealing with customer, they are not very good at it, and they are thinking to hand the US and Europe market to DOPOD since they are doing so much better. If you look at HTC Official website, can you see any update or bug fix? NO!!!!! Nothing there, although they make the machine, but they don't fix the problem, you won't get any update from HTC, instead you will get it from DOPOD and T-mobile, they are their own engineer to fix up the problems. That also explain why the DOPOD machine is running smoother than Advantage, the test unit of Advantage still seems buggy, maybe that's the reason of delay.
Anyway, so which machine should you get?
I say this again: if you want black one, go Advantage, don't think more
If your contract is due to end, go Ameo
Any other people (including people who can't wait) should consider Dopod.
Will i return my Dopod and get Advantage? Sure not!

[nuclear]

I am tired of people who don't understand the relationship between DOPOD and HTC, they are basically the same company, DOPOD is the sister company of HTC which is responsible of dealing with customer. Just for those people who have not touch bothe Advantage and Dopod u1000, i have played with both and personally, i think the DOPOD U1000 has a better finish and also better quality. But again, that's my personal view.

For support wise, DOPOD will give so much better support than HTC, HTC has just recently start dealing with customer, they are not very good at it, and they are thinking to hand the US and Europe market to DOPOD since they are doing so much better. If you look at HTC Official website, can you see any update or bug fix? NO!!!!! Nothing there, although they make the machine, but they don't fix the problem, you won't get any update from HTC, instead you will get it from DOPOD and T-mobile, they are their own engineer to fix up the problems. That also explain why the DOPOD machine is running smoother than Advantage, the test unit of Advantage still seems buggy, maybe that's the reason of delay.
Anyway, so which machine should you get?
I say this again: if you want black one, go Advantage, don't think more
If your contract is due to end, go Ameo
Any other people (including people who can't wait) should consider Dopod.
Will i return my Dopod and get Advantage? Sure not!
Alright i contacted the guy in montreal and he gave me a quote. He said its a pre-order. Also i asked him if there are any stores in new york or toronto where i can get this phone around april. Lets see tomorrow when i talk to him more. He said he is selling for £600 which is the same price as the dopod and thats truly amazing. Well sure i would get the dopod... its not like i got something against white.. it just seems stupid to get a keyboard with chinese characters on it and a chinese rom. Also i have never had a HTC phone.. all my phones till now.. branded by O2, Dopod or Orange... so i am really happy to see the HTC logo on my phone ^^

[wu5262]

Alright i contacted the guy in montreal and he gave me a quote. He said its a pre-order. Also i asked him if there are any stores in new york or toronto where i can get this phone around april. Lets see tomorrow when i talk to him more. He said he is selling for £600 which is the same price as the dopod and thats truly amazing. Well sure i would get the dopod... its not like i got something against white.. it just seems stupid to get a keyboard with chinese characters on it and a chinese rom. Also i have never had a HTC phone.. all my phones till now.. branded by O2, Dopod or Orange... so i am really happy to see the HTC logo on my phone ^^

Nice to hear that :) We will wait for your info tomorrow, keep us inform.

[greatestkelvin]

I have been reading this forum, but I have to say there is a big difference in specifications between HTC Advantage and Dopod U1000. If you type www.htc.com you will see under specs the HSDPA/UMTS (2100 MHz for Europe, 850/1900 MHz for USA) this means that if you buy the Europe version it only has 2100 MHZ. However if you type www.dopodasia.com you will find that under specs it comes with 2100MHZ AND 850/1900 MHZ. As such both models are very different. In addition, If you look at the weight, Dopod U1000 is much heavier than the HTC advantage. I was wondering how come nobody noticed this.. As such based on those 2 official websites. These 2 models are different not just the colour. I hope this helps.

[bogusiano]

In my personal opinion I think that the weight published on the HTC site includes: HTC Advantage + Battery as it clearly says: 359g (with battery)

On the Dopod site, the weight includes: Dopod U1000 + Battery + Keyboard as it says: 375g(With battery and Magnetic Qwerty keypad)

So I think the weight difference is only what is being weighted.

And for the HSDPA/UMTS frequencies I understand that the band of 2100 MHz is the one European Carriers are using, and in the USA the carriers are using 850/1900 MHz band. I don't think HTC will release a version for USA and one for Europe, what about Asia and the rest of America? I think they are just pointing out which band you have to use if you will use it in USA or in Europe.

Please someone correct me if I am wrong.

Regards!

I have been reading this forum, but I have to say there is a big difference in specifications between HTC Advantage and Dopod U1000. If you type www.htc.com you will see under specs the HSDPA/UMTS (2100 MHz for Europe, 850/1900 MHz for USA) this means that if you buy the Europe version it only has 2100 MHZ. However if you type www.dopodasia.com you will find that under specs it comes with 2100MHZ AND 850/1900 MHZ. As such both models are very different. In addition, If you look at the weight, Dopod U1000 is much heavier than the HTC advantage. I was wondering how come nobody noticed this.. As such based on those 2 official websites. These 2 models are different not just the colour. I hope this helps.

[wu5262]

I have been reading this forum, but I have to say there is a big difference in specifications between HTC Advantage and Dopod U1000. If you type www.htc.com you will see under specs the HSDPA/UMTS (2100 MHz for Europe, 850/1900 MHz for USA) this means that if you buy the Europe version it only has 2100 MHZ. However if you type www.dopodasia.com you will find that under specs it comes with 2100MHZ AND 850/1900 MHZ. As such both models are very different. In addition, If you look at the weight, Dopod U1000 is much heavier than the HTC advantage. I was wondering how come nobody noticed this.. As such based on those 2 official websites. These 2 models are different not just the colour. I hope this helps.

I think when they say "2100 MHz for Europe, 850/1900 MHz for USA" means those are the frequency for these country, it should support both.
The weight difference can be cause by many reason. i have weighted my Dopod and i got 372 which is with battery, and keyboard.
Not sure the advantage weight is including keyboard or not, it doesn't say.
But i think it make kind of sense that DOPOD is heavier (not that much anyway, don't think you will notice it) because the good material it use.

by the way, the keyboard itself weight about 80

[Arya]

Yes. the device support all frequency. they want to say it support2100 in Europe and 850/1900 in USA
many of phone is like it and support all of this.
Don't think HTC made 2 version of Advantage.one for Europe and one for America and ...
it is not true
tanX

[Arya]

in DPADB.net write all 3 device are 375 gr!!!!(include battey)

[cornelius]

If me i'll write down tha things that fit for my costumer,and the other not to important, that what dey did i think. Give their consumer a specifict informations.

[Arya]

If me i'll write down tha things that fit for my costumer,and the other not to important, that what dey did i think. Give their consumer a specifict informations.

your reply is for who?
I can't underestand it
sorry

[P996]

Yes. the device support all frequency. they want to say it support2100 in Europe and 850/1900 in USA
many of phone is like it and support all of this.
Don't think HTC made 2 version of Advantage.one for Europe and one for America and ...
it is not true
tanX

Indeed, the HTC X7500/T-Mobile Ameo/Dopod U1000 have Quadband GSM support and Triband UMTS/3G support.

NOT many phones have this feature, to my knowledge only the HTC TyTN and the Palm Treo 750 currently have the same Quadband GSM / Triband UMTS features. Most other UMTS/3G phones on the market have market/UMTS frequency specific setups.

The Nokia N80 for example has a Quadband GSM capability but the UMTS/3G capability is limited to one region only (UMTS 2100 or 1900).

Guys...stop this gossip regarding a difference between the HTC X7500 and the Dopod/T-Mobile units: they are technically identical, there are only differences in the material/colours of the exterior casing used and some ROM differences which have been implemented by HTC too at Dopod/T-Mobile request. Not to forget that Dopod is owned by HTC, just in case some people don't know.

[wu5262]

Indeed, the HTC X7500/T-Mobile Ameo/Dopod U1000 have Quadband GSM support and Triband UMTS/3G support.

NOT many phones have this feature, to my knowledge only the HTC TyTN and the Palm Treo 750 currently have the same Quadband GSM / Triband UMTS features. Most other UMTS/3G phones on the market have market/UMTS frequency specific setups.

The Nokia N80 for example has a Quadband GSM capability but the UMTS/3G capability is limited to one region only (UMTS 2100 or 1900).

Guys...stop this gossip regarding a difference between the HTC X7500 and the Dopod/T-Mobile units: they are technically identical, there are only differences in the material/colours of the exterior casing used and some ROM differences which have been implemented by HTC too at Dopod/T-Mobile request. Not to forget that Dopod is owned by HTC, just in case some people don't know.

You are wrong there, The rom wasn't done by HTC, DOPOD one is done by Dopod, and T-mobile one is done by T-mobile. HTC are in charge of the hardware design.

[P996]

You are wrong there, The rom wasn't done by HTC, DOPOD one is done by Dopod, and T-mobile one is done by T-mobile. HTC are in charge of the hardware design.

Would you please name a source for this "information"? Just curious.

[wu5262]

Would you please name a source for this "information"? Just curious.

I was one of the tester of Advantage, and my brother is one of the most senior engineer in HTC. I am not saying they don't do software, i am talking about the ROM. The base software wasn't even done by HTC , it's done by Microsoft !

[P996]

I was one of the tester of Advantage, and my brother is one of the most senior engineer in HTC. I am not saying they don't do software, i am talking about the ROM. The base software wasn't even done by HTC , it's done by Microsoft !

Again curious: if you were a tester of the "Advantage", why couldn't you keep it further, why did you go for a Dopod? If your brother is a senior engineer at HTC, why didn't he get you a X7500 since beta testers have already "final" hardware versions in their hands? Because the Dopod is "better"? ;)
I'm also curious why you asked in a post how the quality of the Advantage is...if you were a beta tester, you should know it better than anybody else. ;)

Sorry if my questions are too straight forward, I'm just trying to understand why your information is completely opposed to what I know.

[mackaby007]

Indeed, the HTC X7500/T-Mobile Ameo/Dopod U1000 have Quadband GSM support and Triband UMTS/3G support.

NOT many phones have this feature, to my knowledge only the HTC TyTN and the Palm Treo 750 currently have the same Quadband GSM / Triband UMTS features. Most other UMTS/3G phones on the market have market/UMTS frequency specific setups.

The Nokia N80 for example has a Quadband GSM capability but the UMTS/3G capability is limited to one region only (UMTS 2100 or 1900).

Guys...stop this gossip regarding a difference between the HTC X7500 and the Dopod/T-Mobile units: they are technically identical, there are only differences in the material/colours of the exterior casing used and some ROM differences which have been implemented by HTC too at Dopod/T-Mobile request. Not to forget that Dopod is owned by HTC, just in case some people don't know.

What exactly is your problem P996? You seem to criticise everyones findings or opinions as if you were an expert on the device. Behave yourself or I'll speak to your parents and they will confiscate your new toy. :) Only Kidding.

P.S. Read this thread by Monaco about problems with HDD....maybe my source is not so wrong.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=297749

[P996]

P.S. Read this thread by Monaco about problems with HDD....maybe my source is not so wrong.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=297749

These are NOT problems, my friend...just concerns raised. Concerns already raised during development of the HTC Athena by HTC. They had their reason for going for the MD instead of flash memory and yes, one reason was cost of course. ;)

Btw: I'm pretty sure I'm much older than you. Married, two children and tons of gadgets I have to get rid off since my first C64 back in the 80s. ;)

[mackaby007]

These are NOT problems, my friend...just concerns raised. Concerns already raised during development of the HTC Athena by HTC. They had their reason for going for the MD instead of flash memory and yes, one reason was cost of course. ;)

Btw: I'm pretty sure I'm much older than you. Married, two children and tons of gadgets I have to get rid off since my first C64 back in the 80s. ;)

I was a ZX Spectrum kid myself (with black and white display by Sinclair - before the Commodore 64 was born. haha) and taught at school on the BBC micro (that pretty much gives the game away). By the way P996, I too am married, but with 5 children...2 have already flown the nest, so to speak.;)

Irrespective of our ages, your actually amusing me now. ROFL. Enjoy the rest of your evening.

[wu5262]

Again curious: if you were a tester of the "Advantage", why couldn't you keep it further, why did you go for a Dopod? If your brother is a senior engineer at HTC, why didn't he get you a X7500 since beta testers have already "final" hardware versions in their hands? Because the Dopod is "better"? ;)
I'm also curious why you asked in a post how the quality of the Advantage is...if you were a beta tester, you should know it better than anybody else. ;)

Sorry if my questions are too straight forward, I'm just trying to understand why your information is completely opposed to what I know.

Just so you know my friend, tester don't usually keep the device, you have the device for 1 week then we hand it back to HTC so they can give it to more tester. I went for DOPOD, because that is the only machine i can get hold of.
And i can't just get any device from my Brother, it doesn't work like that in Big company such as HTC. I ask the quality of Advantage is because mine one is beta machine, it doesn't have the same finish as the official one, although i touch a real one in 3GSM, i was asking basically what other people think about it's finish. As you might know, PERSONALLY, i prefer the Dopod finish.

[greatestkelvin]

Dear Wu, as your brother is working for Dopod, can he email me a copy of the English Rom? My friend bought one for me while he was travelling and its a Chinese version. I was wondering whether does he have the English rom. Many thanks.

[mackaby007]

Dear Wu, as your brother is working for Dopod, can he email me a copy of the English Rom? My friend bought one for me while he was travelling and its a Chinese version. I was wondering whether does he have the English rom. Many thanks.

Wu's brother works for HTC NOT Dopod. :)

[wu5262]

Dear Wu, as your brother is working for Dopod, can he email me a copy of the English Rom? My friend bought one for me while he was travelling and its a Chinese version. I was wondering whether does he have the English rom. Many thanks.

No, that will be impossible, they are not allow to do that i am afraid. sorry :)
English ROM should be out when advantage is out.

[wu5262]

Wu's brother works for HTC NOT Dopod. :)

and that is true as well :)

[ahmadfarid]

I just went to t-mobile germany web..unfortunatelyi do not understand german..i found the most expensive pricing of ameo is abt 899.99 euro. Is it without contract?..i mean is this device unlock?..

thanks..

[wu5262]

I just went to t-mobile germany web..unfortunatelyi do not understand german..i found the most expensive pricing of ameo is abt 899.99 euro. Is it without contract?..i mean is this device unlock?..

thanks..

If i remember correctly, that is also with contract, just a very cheap one, so the device price is high. I don't think they sell un-contract one at this moment, you might have to wait a bit until they offer it without contract. And don't forget, it's lock to T-mobile Germany as well.

[greatestkelvin]

Thanks for all your tips. I hope the Advantage will be released earlier so that we can all have our English ROMS. Btw I saw the English version of the Dopod U1000 in Hong Kong yesterday. Was wondering whether will they be releasing the English Rom for Dopod sooner.

I have a few other questions. I have installed some programs on the mini SD card. But after doing a soft reset the icons for those programs disappears. As a result I reinstalled them on my microdrive and everything seems normal again. Is this a common bug? Some programs are fine whereas others may not work. Another question is whether is it faster if I install my programs on my microdrive or the mini SD card?

Another question I have is that I installed the trial version of the Chinese UI Software to convert it into English. But there is no option in the menu to select this, was wondering how this can be done? Thanks

[nuclear]

Why wouldnt you install the programs on the hard drive?

[ahmadfarid]

[QUOTE=greatestkelvin;1171196]Thanks for all your tips. I hope the Advantage will be released earlier so that we can all have our English ROMS. Btw I saw the English version of the Dopod U1000 in Hong Kong yesterday. Was wondering whether will they be releasing the English Rom for Dopod sooner.

Wu...could you confirm this? ..then maybe i don`t have to use the software for conversion to english..

[wu5262]

[QUOTE=greatestkelvin;1171196]Thanks for all your tips. I hope the Advantage will be released earlier so that we can all have our English ROMS. Btw I saw the English version of the Dopod U1000 in Hong Kong yesterday. Was wondering whether will they be releasing the English Rom for Dopod sooner.

Wu...could you confirm this? ..then maybe i don`t have to use the software for conversion to english..

no English version of DOPOD U1000 in HK in not out yet, still on pre-order

[wu5262]

Thanks for all your tips. I hope the Advantage will be released earlier so that we can all have our English ROMS. Btw I saw the English version of the Dopod U1000 in Hong Kong yesterday. Was wondering whether will they be releasing the English Rom for Dopod sooner.

I have a few other questions. I have installed some programs on the mini SD card. But after doing a soft reset the icons for those programs disappears. As a result I reinstalled them on my microdrive and everything seems normal again. Is this a common bug? Some programs are fine whereas others may not work. Another question is whether is it faster if I install my programs on my microdrive or the mini SD card?

Another question I have is that I installed the trial version of the Chinese UI Software to convert it into English. But there is no option in the menu to select this, was wondering how this can be done? Thanks

you need to change the storage card name to "storage card", look here:
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa459155.aspx

[greatestkelvin]

On Tuesday, 3 days ago, I called Expansys in HK to cancel my order as the status keeps showing estimated 7 days. They called me back a few minutes later and tell me that they have the English version and they would like to deliver it to me. I said forget it since you guys takes so long. On the same day there were big advertisements on the newspapers. Other local phone companies are carrying it as well. I called up Dopod Hk, they told me that the big shops should have their stock after 6pm. The first batch has already been delivered to HK. I believe most have been sold out.

[wu5262]

On Tuesday, 3 days ago, I called Expansys in HK to cancel my order as the status keeps showing estimated 7 days. They called me back a few minutes later and tell me that they have the English version and they would like to deliver it to me. I said forget it since you guys takes so long. On the same day there were big advertisements on the newspapers. Other local phone companies are carrying it as well. I called up Dopod Hk, they told me that the big shops should have their stock after 6pm. The first batch has already been delivered to HK. I believe most have been sold out.

That was the first stock, which was sold out completely (50 machines for expansys), un-foutrnally, they are not getting it re-stock that quickly, as you can see, expansys still say they are waiting for stock.