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jcespi2005
12-03-2007, 06:28 PM
Hi all.

Finally update my M3100 to WM6 (thanks to LVSM) and i can't connect with my Windows Vista desktop using latest driver from Microsoft.

I can connect with Windows XP box with Active Sync 4.5 without any problem.

Anyone get this working or am i crazy?

Thanks all.

vayip
12-03-2007, 06:53 PM
Windows VISTA has a new activesync.

If you connect your device, you should see that Vista auto detects your phone.
But you can't install programs etc.

Then you have to run Windows Update to dowload an additional package, so you
can install programs etc.

So if your Vista ain't that legal, then don't try.

1V4NW00
12-03-2007, 06:55 PM
I had installed the XDA Live 0.1 last week without issues (via WinXP)

When I tried to upgrade to the 0.2 it hung in boot loader (tri-colour screen), while using Vista w/ AS4.5.

I had to hard reset to get it to go back to 0.1, but it hasn't really been the same since.

I d/l the new WM6 LVSM and tried to upgrade, but it also hangs in tri-colour mode.

Now is it a problem because I'm running Vista?

vayip
12-03-2007, 07:09 PM
I had installed the XDA Live 0.1 last week without issues (via WinXP)

When I tried to upgrade to the 0.2 it hung in boot loader (tri-colour screen), while using Vista w/ AS4.5.

I had to hard reset to get it to go back to 0.1, but it hasn't really been the same since.

I d/l the new WM6 LVSM and tried to upgrade, but it also hangs in tri-colour mode.

Now is it a problem because I'm running Vista?

If I am not mistaking, you can't upgrade with Vista.
There is a workaround for it, but standard it's not possible.

Upgrade trough Windows XP.

1V4NW00
12-03-2007, 07:18 PM
If I am not mistaking, you can't upgrade with Vista.
There is a workaround for it, but standard it's not possible.

Upgrade trough Windows XP.

Thanks I was thinking i could just use Vista.

I guess I should have just stayed on XP on my primary PC instead of upgrading to Vista so damn quick...LOL

jcespi2005
12-03-2007, 07:29 PM
Thanks I was thinking i could just use Vista.

I guess I should have just stayed on XP on my primary PC instead of upgrading to Vista so damn quick...LOL

Well, i expose my complete experience with Vista (of course legal copy ;) )

I have one Qtek 9100 and one TyTN (SPV M3100 Spanish Orange).

days ago both of them with WM5 (original branded)

Yesterday move qtek 9100 to WM6, but can't do with Vista so i do in a VMWare Windows XP box running into Vista with VMWare Workstation (this works very fine). once the 9100 was WM6, Vista says taht the device is new and can't find the driver, but one day before works fine.

So today upgrade my TyTN with the same, put the RUU in the XP box, and works fine, but the same results in Vista and Mobile Sync. Works with SM5 but not with WM6. But in XP box, works with boths.

I think MS checks the OS version in Vista Sync, so you can't sync if the OS version isn't in the list of legal OS mobile.

vayip
12-03-2007, 08:59 PM
I am running Windows Vista Ultimate and have WMXL 0.20 on my phone.

I can connect my phone to vista and i can browse my phone. I see the storage card and the internal memory.

You can't install application trough this.
If you want to install application when using Windows Vista, connect your phone with the USB cable, wait for Windows to detect your phone and install the drivers, then run Windows Update.

Then it will download an package so you can install applications.

walshieau
12-03-2007, 09:51 PM
Windows Vista uses the new Mobile Sync Center hence the RUU cannot connect with your PDA... if you replace the Mobile Sync Center drivers with the activesync ones you can get it to work...

there is a search button on the top right of this forum... as this topic has been discussed and answered many times before i suggest you use the search feature as it works wonders....:)

megarek
12-03-2007, 10:20 PM
I installed Windoes Mobile Device Center on Vista, and I did not have a problem getting it to recognize my hermes w/ XDA-live 0.20. I did nothing special, just plugged it in, it was recognized, I configured it, and it syncs no problem.
Ross

jcespi2005
13-03-2007, 07:16 AM
Perhaps is a languaje diference, my Vista is Spanish and my WM6 is english.

walshieau
13-03-2007, 07:24 AM
Perhaps is a languaje diference, my Vista is Spanish and my WM6 is english.

no language difference... you cannot run the RUU update in Vista!!! jesus man read the posts.... unless you change the Mobile Sync Center drivers you cannot use the updater!!!

jcespi2005
13-03-2007, 07:31 AM
no language difference... you cannot run the RUU update in Vista!!! jesus man read the posts.... unless you change the Mobile Sync Center drivers you cannot use the updater!!!

Ok, i dosn't express correct. The question is the conectivity, not so only run RUU, but get acces to device.

With Vista (spanish version) i can't get acces to WM6, and i try two devices, Qtek 9100 and TyTN. a couples of days before both of them were with WM5 and can access without any problem. So i think Vista can read the version my devices says to be and be confused with the driver to use. Were can i find the drivers to make this work. Anyone says i can put activesync 4.5 drivers in Vista, is this correct?

So i must to connect to my XP box into VMWare and access trought this. so i can access and update usgin RUU.

Thanks.

walshieau
13-03-2007, 07:34 AM
Ok, i dosn't express correct. The question is the conectivity, not so only run RUU, but get acces to device.

With Vista (spanish version) i can't get acces to WM6, and i try two devices, Qtek 9100 and TyTN. a couples of days before both of them were with WM5 and can access without any problem. So i think Vista can read the version my devices says to be and be confused with the driver to use. Were can i find the drivers to make this work. Anyone says i can put activesync 4.5 drivers in Vista, is this correct?

So i must to connect to my XP box into VMWare and access trought this. so i can access and update usgin RUU.

Thanks.

did you download the spanish version of Mobile Device Center or the english version???

jcespi2005
13-03-2007, 07:39 AM
did you download the spanish version of Mobile Device Center or the english version???

Spanish. I must wait since installs Vista two weeks for the spanish version of the device center :(

fourcc
13-03-2007, 08:42 PM
i have Spanish Vista & Orange M3100 with english WM6 from LVSW. Activesync is working fine using of course the spanish download of windows mobile device center 6.

The only problem i have is that i don't have internet connection connecting activesync by usb.

Does Anyone have the same problem?
Any ideas about my problem?
TIA

jcespi2005
14-03-2007, 03:06 PM
i have Spanish Vista & Orange M3100 with english WM6 from LVSW. Activesync is working fine using of course the spanish download of windows mobile device center 6.

The only problem i have is that i don't have internet connection connecting activesync by usb.

Does Anyone have the same problem?
Any ideas about my problem?
TIA

I'm in your same situation.

Im my case, Vista dosn't find the correct driver for my M3100 with LVSW WM6 (perhaps i make a mistake installing, i'll reinstall Vista soon :( ) In XP box no problem to do that, and gain Internet connection from M3100 to get sync with Exchange server trought Internet.

How do you set the connection in Device Center?

fun_key
14-03-2007, 05:20 PM
Everything is working fine under vista for me.

I am able to:
-use ICS through USB, PAN
-manage installed programmes
-browse the device
...

I am using an english vista + an english WM6 tytn ROM

m15chief
16-03-2007, 10:11 AM
Anyone else notice that with XP and Activesync you can see and browse to your Windows folder on the PPC, but through Vista that folder is completely hidden and there seems to be no way to browse it??

petes
16-03-2007, 10:28 AM
Anyone else notice that with XP and Activesync you can see and browse to your Windows folder on the PPC, but through Vista that folder is completely hidden and there seems to be no way to browse it??

You just need to enable viewing of System folders in Folder options

Murcielago
16-03-2007, 02:04 PM
I'm using Vista since the first day and I have updated my TyNT with LVSW ROM and everything works.
Bluetooth activesync / USB activesync / Pairing with Outlook 2007 / Seeing all the files on Main Memory and Storage Card....
All put in one word, everything is perfect.
Only one thing hasn't worked : I haven't been able to update using Vista.

vimafeje
30-03-2007, 01:05 PM
hi to all!!!!

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i can see all files of my qtek 9100 main memory and storage card whith no problem!!! but if i tell to syncronise whith outlook 2007 ...... all my contacts and calendar apointments disapear from my PDA, and still have nothing (contacts/calendar apointments) in outlook... i'm stuck in this situation and i can't resolve it....

i have download the last wmdc, intall it, i have wm6 in my qtek, i put in it wm5 but can't syncronise it in any way, but i still have access to all file in my PDA....
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sorry - post in the wrong section

jcespi2005
30-03-2007, 02:16 PM
hi to all!!!!

i can see all files of my qtek 9100 main memory and storage card whith no problem!!! but if i tell to syncronise whith outlook 2007 ...... all my contacts and calendar apointments disapear from my PDA, and still have nothing (contacts/calendar apointments) in outlook... i'm stuck in this situation and i can't resolve it....

i have download the last wmdc, intall it, i have wm6 in my qtek, i put in it wm5 but can't syncronise it in any way, but i still have access to all file in my PDA....

Perhaps this is not the correct forum to ask. This is TyTN thread, not Wizard. Try in http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=356

rassah
30-03-2007, 07:59 PM
I just reinstalled my Vista a few days ago, and found out that apparently the mobile device center isn't being distributed throug Windows Update any more. It never came in for me. So I had to do a web search for it, found where it is on MS's site, and had to download and install it manually. It does require you to go through that Windows Genuine Adventage validation crap though. Another "new" thing I noticed is that the beta version of Windows Mobile Device center worked with the USB to PC FUnctionality turned on (you had to turn it off to get your device discovered, but after the Device Center found it, you could turn it back on and it would stll work, but much faster). While it still works, not with the non-beta version the difference I noticed is that storage cards do NOT show up in Media Player. They used to in beta, now they don't. So I can either turn USB to PC off and have very slooooooow synching speeds, or turn it on and use a USB card reader instead :/

hass
30-01-2008, 05:59 AM
I recently installed Vista and the new Mobile Center sync app. My only problem is that Windows Media Player cant see my memory card so I have to use File Manager to tranfer my music files and then update my Music Library on the phone.

Anyone know of a fix for this?

chipsxj
30-01-2008, 06:11 PM
Ok, i dosn't express correct. The question is the conectivity, not so only run RUU, but get acces to device.

With Vista (spanish version) i can't get acces to WM6, and i try two devices, Qtek 9100 and TyTN. a couples of days before both of them were with WM5 and can access without any problem. So i think Vista can read the version my devices says to be and be confused with the driver to use. Were can i find the drivers to make this work. Anyone says i can put activesync 4.5 drivers in Vista, is this correct?

So i must to connect to my XP box into VMWare and access trought this. so i can access and update usgin RUU.

Thanks.


I had to poke holes into my Vista firewall to get WMDC to connect to my device. This is what I did:

Firewall conflicts
Check if your firewall settings are not blocking Windows Mobile Device Center. Easiest way to check if WMDC conflichts with your firewall is by turning off the firewall completely (please do this on a trusted network) and plugging in the device. If it does connect when you have turned off the firewall, you have a firewall conflict.

If installed correctly (please make sure that WMDC is installed!!), the following programs are allowed:

Windows Mobile-based device connectivity
Windows Mobile-based network access
Legacy Status Port
Legacy Sync Channel Port
Sync Services Port
There is a huge difference in the way different operating system versions are handled by Windows Mobile Device Centre. Roughly there is a split in the way things are handled:

Devices running Windows Mobile 5 (and beyond) default run a network-like communication.
Devices running PocketPC2003SE (and before) or Windows Mobile 5 (and beyond) devices that forced to be running in legacy mode communicate to Vista through a serial port.
Since the difference is so big, we have split this part of troubleshooting in two parts.

Windows Mobile 5 devices (and beyond)
To resolve conflicts with firewalls, you have to add WMDC to the list of trusted applications. WMDC has the following components:

C:/Windows/WindowsMobile/wmdc.exe
C:/Windows/WindowsMobile/wmdHost.exe
C:/Windows/WindowsMobile/wmdsyncman.dll
These components have to be allowed to communicate in your firewall settings, allowing them to have full server priviliges. As for the used IP-adresses, WMDC uses 169.254.2.1 for your PC and 169.254.2.2 for your Windows Mobile 5.0 device. For these ip-adresses, the following ports have to be open:

Inbound TCP:
990
999
5678
5721
26675
Outbound UDP:
5679
Outbound TCP:
990
The application using these ports is C:/Windows/WindowsMobile/wmdHost.exe.