Battery High Capacity 1800 mAh and 3600 mAh

[filicloe]

I find a new battery for my HTC P3600.

Instead of the battery 1500 mAh, you can choose 1800 mAh or 3600 mAh ! :)

The manufacter of these batteries is : MUGEN POWER http://www.mugenpowerbatterijen.nl/

Picture of the MUGEN POWER battery 1800 mAh here : http://shop.eten.hu/mugen-power-p3600-trinity-dopod-d810-orange-spvm700-vodafone-compact-extended-battery-1800mah-p-153.html

Picture of the MUGEN POWER 3600 mAh here : http://shop.eten.hu/mugen-power-p3600-trinity-dopod-d810-orange-spvm700-vodafone-compact-extended-battery-3600mah-p-154.html

I leave in France and I don't know where I can purchase these batteries... :confused:

Somebody know ?

Thanks.

[Svenitos]

And such a battery works without any problems? :confused: Would be cool if it did.


Picture of the MUGEN POWER battery 1800 mAh here : http://shop.eten.hu/mugen-power-p3600-trinity-dopod-d810-orange-spvm700-vodafone-compact-extended-battery-1800mah-p-153.html

Picture of the MUGEN POWER 3600 mAh here : http://shop.eten.hu/mugen-power-p3600-trinity-dopod-d810-orange-spvm700-vodafone-compact-extended-battery-3600mah-p-154.html

I leave in France and I don't know where I can purchase these batteries... :confused:

Somebody know ?

Thanks.

You can buy it at that eten.hu shop you gave... (delivery to France)

Another shop I found: http://www.gpsforless.co.uk/product_details.php?id=5353

[asci]

I find a new battery for my HTC P3600.

Instead of the battery 1500 mAh, you can choose 1800 mAh or 3600 mAh ! :)

The manufacter of these batteries is : MUGEN POWER http://www.mugenpowerbatterijen.nl/

Picture of the MUGEN POWER battery 1800 mAh here : http://shop.eten.hu/mugen-power-p3600-trinity-dopod-d810-orange-spvm700-vodafone-compact-extended-battery-1800mah-p-153.html

Picture of the MUGEN POWER 3600 mAh here : http://shop.eten.hu/mugen-power-p3600-trinity-dopod-d810-orange-spvm700-vodafone-compact-extended-battery-3600mah-p-154.html

I leave in France and I don't know where I can purchase these batteries... :confused:

Somebody know ?

Thanks.

Do 1800 mAh and 3600 mAh increase P3600 size?

[wdmc47]

I find a new battery for my HTC P3600.

Instead of the battery 1500 mAh, you can choose 1800 mAh or 3600 mAh ! :)

The manufacter of these batteries is : MUGEN POWER http://www.mugenpowerbatterijen.nl/

Picture of the MUGEN POWER battery 1800 mAh here : http://shop.eten.hu/mugen-power-p3600-trinity-dopod-d810-orange-spvm700-vodafone-compact-extended-battery-1800mah-p-153.html

Picture of the MUGEN POWER 3600 mAh here : http://shop.eten.hu/mugen-power-p3600-trinity-dopod-d810-orange-spvm700-vodafone-compact-extended-battery-3600mah-p-154.html

I leave in France and I don't know where I can purchase these batteries... :confused:

Somebody know ?

Thanks.
Just ordered the 3600 mAh for delivery to the US. It will not be ready for shipment until March 26. The vendor will ship anywhere in the world. Thanks for the link.

[filicloe]

Below, you can read the response of MUGEN POWER about the 1800mAh and 3600mAh batteries. There are all in stock immediatly. :)

Dear Mr xxxxxx,

Thanks for your email regarding Mugen Power Batteries for your HTC P3600 device. We have the following batteries available for your device:

HLI-P3600SL Dopod D810, HTC P3600 (Trinity), Orange SPVM700 & Vodafone VPA Compact GPS Li-Polymer 3.7V 1800mAh Black IN STOCK € 49.25 incl. VAT
HLI-P3600XL Dopod D810, HTC P3600 (Trinity), Orange SPVM700 & Vodafone VPA Compact GPS (with Black battery cover) Li-Polymer 3.7V 3600mAh Black IN STOCK € 93.50 incl. VAT

Mugen Power batteries carry 6 month limited warranty, CE mark and comply to R0HS Directive.
You can order Mugen Power batteries through our online webshop or by sending an email. Shipping is FREE world-wide.

If you have any further questions, please do not hesitate to contact us. Looking forward to receiving your kind order.


Best regards,


Sales Department
Mugen Power Batterijen Europe

www.mugenpowerbatteries.com

[KaYs3r]

Do 1800 mAh and 3600 mAh increase P3600 size?

Any news about this question?

Thank you

[RayEarth]

The fact that the 3600 mAh one says it comes with "black battery cover" usually means it does increase the size of your phone - you have to use the customized battery cover.

I'll gladly be proved wrong...

[turcomora]

Where does it say it comes with black cover?

[filicloe]

Any news about this question?

Thank you

1°/ 1800 mAh doesn't increase P3600 size (same size original 1500 mAh)
2°/ 3600 mAh increase P3600 size with a black cover.

It's very simple.

:)

Filicloe.

[andilein]

Dear xxx,



Thanks for your email regarding Mugen Power Batteries for your HTC P3600 device. We have the following batteries available for your device:



HLI-P3600SL
Dopod D810, HTC P3600 (Trinity), Orange SPVM700 & Vodafone VPA Compact GPS
Li-Polymer
3.7V
1800mAh
Black IN STOCK
€ 49.25 incl. VAT

HLI-P3600XL
Dopod D810, HTC P3600 (Trinity), Orange SPVM700 & Vodafone VPA Compact GPS (with Black battery cover)
Li-Polymer
3.7V
3600mAh
Black IN STOCK
€ 93.50 incl. VAT




The HLI-P3600XL battery comes with an extra battery cover to accommodate the extended-size battery. The SL version is the same size as the standard battery. Mugen Power batteries carry 6 month limited warranty, CE mark and comply to R0HS Directive.

You can order Mugen Power batteries through our online webshop or by sending an email. Shipping is FREE world-wide.



If you have any further questions, please do not hesitate to contact us. Looking forward to receiving your kind order.





Best regards,





Sales Department

Mugen Power Batterijen Europe

[turcomora]

OK so they were out of the 3600 so I got the 1800. I really have not noticed much of a difference, then again I dont think battery pack is that accurate. I will run some tests and compare.

[turcomora]

Just finished testing my new 1800 battery from Mugen and I am impressed. Normal battery would require charge every day if not in the morning it would be at about 10% or dead. New battery is a little better at about 20% - 30%. The new battery does not seem to get as hot as the original when used for long conversations. Charging time is a little longer but not too bad. I initially wanted the 3600 but they were sold out so I gave in and got this one and I am very happy. It is nice that the device does not increase in size with this battery compared to the 3600. I think this is a must for all Trinity power users, especially with the new rom with gps. If you have any questions let me know.

[saminegm]

I really wanna know, how much thicker the Trinity gets with the 3600 mAh Battery. Why dont they have technical data at Mugen?

Any help appreciated!

[jpless]

Yup technicals/pics would be very much appreciated. I doubt the 1800 do that much difference to me but the 3600 is interresting but not if it ruins any accesory cases or the likes.

[HaraldG]

The original Akku weighs 35g. How much the 1800 mAh?

[turcomora]

Comparing them I can not tell. I think that perhaps the 1800 is around 37-40g.

[stramino]

Hi I'm interested in this 1800 MaH battery.

Do you think that I can have any kind of problem using It? For example, I have fear that It can explode as many other not original battery :eek:

Are these batteries of a Good Quality?

[moucha]

Today I received the 1800 mAh battery. I was very excited, but this didn't last long. The battery is a little bit larger than an original one. A little meaning 1/10 of a mm! This seems nothing, but it means that it just doesn't fit into the battery charger and the PDA lid cannot be closed.

I have two choices: to strip off all the labeling on the battery or to ask for a refund of a defective product. At 52 EUR I opted for the second variant.

[saminegm]

Today I received the 1800 mAh battery. I was very excited, but this didn't last long. The battery is a little bit larger than an original one. A little meaning 1/10 of a mm! This seems nothing, but it means that it just doesn't fit into the battery charger and the PDA lid cannot be closed.

I have two choices: to strip off all the labeling on the battery or to ask for a refund of a defective product. At 52 EUR I opted for the second variant.

I cant believe this. Mugen is a good brand...

BTW I have written them an email to post a few pics of the 3600 mAh Battery with replacement cover... no reaction until now.

[moucha]

Hello all, this is the reply to my problem (battery too large):

> Dear Mr Moucha,
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>
>
> We just received a message from the factory. Mugen Power has already
> modified the battery case of HLI-P3600SL and the thickness has been
> reduced as same as the original. In addition, the new version will now
> fit both HTC P3600 and HTC P6300 (Panda). The batteries will be
> produced this week and we expect to receive the new batteries coming
> week. We will dispatch your replacement battery as soon as we have
> received them.
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
>
>
>
>
> Sales Department
>
> Mugen Power Batteries Europe
>
> Luxian Nederland

[turcomora]

My 1800 fits fine. Granted it is a snug fit but does make the phone feel more solid. It adds very little weight from the original and makes the back cover feel more solid.

[moucha]

Dear friends, as you remember, I filed a complaint towards Mugen due to the fact that my battery is a little bit thicker than an original one and I cannot close the lid on the PDA. Well, they promised and they kept their promise: they sent me a replacement battery.

What they didn't promise is that the new battery will be as thin as an original one. So, now I have two thicker-than-normal batteries. Of course, those batteries are completely useless.

On http://foto.moucha.org/mugen you have three full resolution (5.1 MP) pictures with my four batteries aligned: you do not need a Phd. degree to see what is obvious: the Mugen batteries are thicker. So I filed another complaint: this time asking for a full refund. I am going to update the status of the new problem as soon as I solve it.

I really cannot recommend Mugen for their high quality batteries. I REALLY hope that you had more good luck than me.

[FuzzMunky]

But surely it is obvious that the 1800 battery would be larger than a 1500 battery. Isn't this common logic? Other people on this thread say it still fits inside the trinity. Surely this is the important factor?

[turcomora]

I had no problem with my 1800 battery. Again yes it is a tad bit thicker but does fit properly in the device. It actually fills the device out better.

[Moaske]

Can anyone provide us with good pictures of 3600mAh equiped Trinity ? So that is good shot of the provided cover and how thick it looks from the side...? And does it nicely fit in with the curves of the device itself?
Pictures would really be apreciated :)

[mcq3000]

I will post pics when I get mine (3600mah), it shipped today so I should get it early next week, lookout next week for pics and a review.

I got the 1600mah li-polymer battery, funny thing though is that under battery status on my phone it still shows it is Li-On. It last a little longer than stock battery but man, I go through it so quickly. I cannot wait to get 3600mah battery, that should last me at least more than a day (I use my phone HEAVILY for everything, music, gps, streaming, calls etc)

[saminegm]

I will post pics when I get mine (3600mah), it shipped today so I should get it early next week, lookout next week for pics and a review.

I got the 1600mah li-polymer battery, funny thing though is that under battery status on my phone it still shows it is Li-On. It last a little longer than stock battery but man, I go through it so quickly. I cannot wait to get 3600mah battery, that should last me at least more than a day (I use my phone HEAVILY for everything, music, gps, streaming, calls etc)

Great! Looking forward to see your pics. Mugen answered on my email that they can't provide photos of a Trinity with the 3600mAh Battery and cover...

Maybe you could write a few words about everyday use with the thicker trinity?

[FuzzMunky]

Make it a poem.

[Luxian-Mugen Power Batts]

Referring to previous posts about the thickness of the Mugen Power HLI-P3600SL battery, we would like to clarify the situation.
The original OEM battery is exactly 5.1mm thick. In most Trinity devices there is enough extra space to accommodate the slightly thicker 5.5mm P3600SL battery. However, there are some users who have experienced some fitting problems with the P3600SL battery and could not close the battery cover. Immediate action was taken by the factory and the battery has been modified. It is now 5.3mm thick and now also fits in the P6300 Panda devices. Replacement batteries were sent within a week's time to our customers who experienced problems and shipping costs for returning the batteries refunded.
Unfortunately, there are still a couple of customers where the modified battery is still too thick. Mugen Power has now been able to reduce the thickness even further to 5.1mm to solve any fitting problems. We expect to receive the newly modified batteries coming week to send them out immediately to our customers. We are sure that all fitting problems have been solved now and hope that all affected customers will become happy Mugen Power users again. Our sincere apologies to all affected users for any inconvenience they encountered.

[CLB]

I just received my Mugen Power HLI-P3600XL 3600mAh battery. I am not pleased with the quality and will be sending it back.

1) The battery has an internal intermittent. It worked for a while but I later found the phone "dead" on the charger. No charge light and the phone would not power up. I installed the original battery and all was well.
I eventually found out that if I clip the bottom or connector end of the battery in but not push the top in all is good.
Following that I stuffed a piece of paper between the battery and the EMI shield spring fingers at the top of the battery compartment. The insulating paper makes the battery work, which implies that something is connected to the metal side plate on the battery that shouldn't be. I don't measure continuity between the metal side and any of the contacts, so the root cause remains something of a mystery.

My phone still charges and operates with the HTC battery, so at least nothing is blown up.

2) Had the battery actually worked I would have been unhappy thet the chrome trim piece was falling off the extended cover.

[FuzzMunky]

Devestating! So how much bigger was the Trinity with its extended cover? Do you have any pics out of curiosity?

[CLB]

But wait, there's more... :eek:

The cell cases are the positive terminal. The (mis aligned) straps are the negative terminal. It looks like we might have an issue here.
http://www.hevanet.com/clb/mugen1.jpg

Have a closer look:
http://www.hevanet.com/clb/mugen2.jpg
I don't think i would want to press on that!

I suppose I'd hold this up to my ear:
http://www.hevanet.com/clb/mugen3.jpg

[CLB]

Still no joy.
I believe the positive cell cases are shorting to the metal panel under pressure. :mad:

Confirmed!
So what went wrong? Thanks for asking...

http://www.hevanet.com/clb/mugen4.jpg

As stated in a previous post the individual cell cases seen on the left are the positive battery terminal. The plate seen on the right is isolated from the cell cases only by the fiber filled sticky-schmutz adhesive. The plate gets grounded by a patch of EMI gasket and two spring fingers in the phone.
If you look at the upper right area on the plate you will see an area free of adhesive. This area corresponds with the upper left of the cells, also an area free of adhesive.
When the battery was mounted in the phone, the upper right EMI spring finger contact would push the panel onto the cell case and run some unknown quantity of fault current through my phone. Thankfully nothing blew out, burned up or exploded. This may not have been the case had the strap shorted.

What am I going to do? Thanks again for asking...
I will replace the panel with single sided copper clad FR-4 fiberglass, which I happen to have access to.
I will not be buying more of these.

[CLB]

Devestating! So how much bigger was the Trinity with its extended cover? Do you have any pics out of curiosity?

Pictures, pictures, want, want, want...

Actually I could post a picture of the battery cover on the phone but that might encourage you to buy one of these. Then your new freshly charged Li-Ion battery shorts out, burns your house down and I would have contributed to the situation.

So no, I will not be posting pictures.

[saminegm]

Pictures, pictures, want, want, want...

Actually I could post a picture of the battery cover on the phone but that might encourage you to buy one of these. Then your new freshly charged Li-Ion battery shorts out, burns your house down and I would have contributed to the situation.

So no, I will not be posting pictures.

lol, good joke... now post the pics, pls

[nebulux]

Hello everybody,

after a conversation with shop.eten.hu I received a document with specs for the 3600mAh battery model. This model is NOT manufactured by Mugen!

Have a look...

http://rapidshare.com/files/30681049/HLI-P3600XL.doc.html

Greets and thanks a lot for providing all this helpful infos. Keep on!

Nebulux

[CLB]

The battery was ordered directly from http://www.mugenpowerbatterijen.nl/
The battery is branded with the Mugen name.
The battery is marked with the Mugen part number.
Mugen is responsible for the battery's performance, safety and fitness for use.
I really do not care where it was made.

http://www.hevanet.com/clb/mugen5.jpg
I find the "Do not short circuit." statement rather amusing.

The schematic in the spec that you linked (Thank you) shows the overcurrent disconnect mosfets in the negative or return circuit of the cells. That explains why the positive node shorting through the shield plate to ground within the phone did not cause damage. The mosfets opened up in response to the fault current and the low side of the battery floated negative.

Had I pressed on the side of the case, the mis aligned strap would have shorted. This short would occur upstream of any protection. This would likely cause 48,925 J of stored energy to be released in an unpleasant manner.

In summary,
Near short due to mis alignment of negative cell straps.
Cell case (battery positive) shorted to phone ground through battery shield plate due to missing adhesive.
Trim panel falling off cover.

And finally, for the benefit of those that have read all of the above and still have no fear of combustion... :eek:
http://www.hevanet.com/clb/mugen6.jpg
The phone grows from 0.782 inch to 1.015 inch thick, then probably expands a bit more when it explodes.

[illuzn]

HLI–3600XL
Extended Size Hi–Capacity 2400mAh battery for Dopod D810, HTC P3600 (Trinity) & P6300 (Panda), OrangeSPVM700, VPA Compact GPS

Extended Size Hi–Capacity 2400mAh battery for Dopod D810, HTC P3600 (Trinity), HTC P6300 (Panda), Orange SPVM700 & Vodafone VPA Compact GPS.
Li–Polymer, 3.7V, 2400mAh.
Color: Black (with battery cover in black or white)
(Made by Mugen Power)

78.50

It appears the 3600mAh battery is no longer offered by Mugen Power (this was the largest I could see.

[mcq3000]

man CLB your battery and phone is in pretty bad shape. Mine is actually in flawless condition, no peeling or frayed areas or anything. I am charging it now and will be testing it the rest of the week to see how it performs and will report back. My phone has become really thick though as you can see in the pictures.

[CLB]

man CLB your battery and phone is in pretty bad shape. Mine is actually in flawless condition, no peeling or frayed areas or anything. I am charging it now and will be testing it the rest of the week to see how it performs and will report back. My phone has become really thick though as you can see in the pictures.

Actually the phone looks pretty good. I think I caught it in a camera shy mood. A 1DsII and 150/2.8 Sigma Macro will tend to show dust and smudges if they are there. It doesn't help that everything is automatically brought up to 50% gray.
That said, I don't use the 3600 camera much.

The battery cover is a bit rough but this is the extended Mugen.
The battery looks pretty rough but then again it was ripped apart to be fixed as it arrived in a defective shorted state.

As far the post regarding battery capacity...
The Mugen website describes the battery as 2400 mAh but lists the part number correctly.
This is what you will actually receive.

[ItalianTytan]

could any1 post a feedback for the 2400mah battery which is sold by gpsforless?

Thanks!

[Luxian-Mugen Power Batts]

In addition to all posts regarding the Mugen Power HLI-P3600XL batteries, we would like to inform everbody as follows:

1) The short-circuit issue on a HLI-P3600XL battery, which was initiated by CLB, was never communicated by CLB to us and until today no warranty claim has been issued by CLB regarding this issue, which is a bit strange to us, especially when CLB states that he is very unhappy with his purchase.

2) The HLI-P3600XL battery is a 3600mAh battery and not 2400mAh. An typing mistake was made in the specs on our website and has been corrected already some time ago. Our sincere apologies for any confusion caused by this.

3) The HLI-P3600SL and HLI-P3600XL batteries are amongst the most popular models sold at this moment. Hundreds of very satisfied P3600 and P6300 users are using these Mugen Power batteries without any problems, which says enough of the high-quality and after-sales support we offer. Due to the success of these models, we were able to lower the retail prices even further.

[Barichon]

I advice those device to nobody,


WHY ?

A battery not under HTC manufacturing could crash your PDA...
Besides a battery warranty for only 6 month....lol, look at the price, it's a shame !!

For the 3600 Mah model the new cover is the same that in the thread which deal with new cover.

In this thread it said that the cover haven't got the HTC logo and may be of a poor quality manufacturing....

Best regards ;)

[saminegm]

In addition to all posts regarding the Mugen Power HLI-P3600XL batteries, we would like to inform everbody as follows:

1) The short-circuit issue on a HLI-P3600XL battery, which was initiated by CLB, was never communicated by CLB to us and until today no warranty claim has been issued by CLB regarding this issue, which is a bit strange to us, especially when CLB states that he is very unhappy with his purchase.

2) The HLI-P3600XL battery is a 3600mAh battery and not 2400mAh. An typing mistake was made in the specs on our website and has been corrected already some time ago. Our sincere apologies for any confusion caused by this.

3) The HLI-P3600SL and HLI-P3600XL batteries are amongst the most popular models sold at this moment. Hundreds of very satisfied P3600 and P6300 users are using these Mugen Power batteries without any problems, which says enough of the high-quality and after-sales support we offer. Due to the success of these models, we were able to lower the retail prices even further.

Dear Sir,

www.mugenpowerbatteries.com

is a european internet site. The company - i guess - has to act according to european law.

According to article 5 of the DIRECTIVE 2000/31/EC OF THE EUROPEAN PARLIAMENT AND OF THE COUNCIL of 8 June 2000
on certain legal aspects of information society services, in particular electronic commerce, in the Internal Market (Directive on electronic commerce) every company has to publish

(a) the name of the service provider;

(b) the geographic address at which the service provider is established;

(c) the details of the service provider, including his electronic mail address, which allow him to be contacted rapidly and communicated with in a direct and effective manner;

(d) where the service provider is registered in a trade or similar public register, the trade register in which the service provider is entered and his registration number, or equivalent means of identification in that register;

(e) where the activity is subject to an authorisation scheme, the particulars of the relevant supervisory authority;


Most of these informations are missing on www.mugenpowerbatteries.com.

How can you think that consumers trust a company that does not meet european information standards according to applicable law?

[dubart]

Maybe thye're not European...

[Heijdemann]

I advice those device to nobody,


WHY ?

A battery not under HTC manufacturing could crash your PDA... >>>>>keep on dreaming this is a stupid remark I supose you never tried also to switch rom and so on....

Besides a battery warranty for only 6 month....lol, look at the price, it's a shame !!>>>>> every brand gives only 6 months on batteries

For the 3600 Mah model the new cover is the same that in the thread which deal with new cover.>>>>> cover is ok and looks good

In this thread it said that the cover haven't got the HTC logo and may be of a poor quality manufacturing....

Best regards ;)

Before you trowing mud check the facts first.
I have buy since 2004 High capacity batteries with this firm (total 7) one time with one batterie a problem after 1/2 year send it in and I get a new one as replacement good service till know.
Also the batterie for my P3600 looks ok same as the cover looks ok for me.

btw Think you don't believe it but I have no interest in this shop ;o))

[CLB]

In addition to all posts regarding the Mugen Power HLI-P3600XL batteries, we would like to inform everbody as follows:

1) The short-circuit issue on a HLI-P3600XL battery, which was initiated by CLB, was never communicated by CLB to us and until today no warranty claim has been issued by CLB regarding this issue, which is a bit strange to us, especially when CLB states that he is very unhappy with his purchase.

2) The HLI-P3600XL battery is a 3600mAh battery and not 2400mAh. An typing mistake was made in the specs on our website and has been corrected already some time ago. Our sincere apologies for any confusion caused by this.

3) The HLI-P3600SL and HLI-P3600XL batteries are amongst the most popular models sold at this moment. Hundreds of very satisfied P3600 and P6300 users are using these Mugen Power batteries without any problems, which says enough of the high-quality and after-sales support we offer. Due to the success of these models, we were able to lower the retail prices even further.

You find it strange that I have not contacted you?
Let me explain:

The photos I posted to this thread clearly show a hazardous condition created by poor workmanship resulting in mis-aligned spot welded straps.
Also shown was a somewhat less hazardous short from positive cell case to grounded shield sheet metal.

In my opinion you have endangered the lives of the cargo flight crew that delivered this item.
I am not willing to do the same by shipping the item back.

You are correct in stating that I am unhappy with this purchase.
Hopefully this clarifies the matter.