HTC, T-Mobile & Dopod pricing demistified...

[mackaby007]

Don't worry all, it's all good. Let me start with the confusion by quoting a fellow Xda members concern about pricing, that was shared by myself and doubtless countless of other potentially interested purchasers of the new Athena, known as HTC X7500 (due out in April sometime), T-Mobile Ameo (available now) and the Dopod U1000 (available now in various parts of Asia).



hi, yup there is something definitely wrong on flext 35+webnwalk = 119 and on flext 50+webnwalk= 319 :)))

cudo

Right then....just had a rather lengthy discussion with T-Mobile about this. The information for the Flex 35 offer is absolutely legit!!

That's right 100% correct!!

I was going to send mine back and have this deal, but in the fullness of the contract, the price works out to be exactly the same...down to the penny!

Basically I get 1/2 price discounts on my bills due to my ties with T-Mobile, hence I pay more for the device..but it all amounts to the same, except I get considerably more minutes etc per month.

Bottom line: If your going to be a new customer to T-Mobile and can comfortably afforf the £40 + per month, it is a fair deal. Total cost for the device and perks of the Flext tariff work out to £839.00 or thereabouts.

Compare that to £600.00 for the cheapest deal the Dopod U1000 (add shipping cost), then your really only paying less than £239.00 for the contract over 18 months which equates to 239/18 = £13.20!!

It will actually work out less than that as in the Dopod U1000 you still have to pay for shipping.

So in reality, your paying (e.g) £600 for the device and about £12.00 per month for the tariff.

Another way to look at it is tariff is £42.50 x 18 = £765.

Therefore £839.00 - £765.00 = £74.00 (for tariff benefits)

74/18 = £4.11 per month over 18 months for Flex 35

Apparently HTC will be selling the X7500 Advantage for a bit over £700.00 SIM free, but no other perks like free minutes etc...hence the inclusion of TomTom6.

They all work out to be roughly the same. You get what you pay for and none is actually cheaper than the other.

You simply have to chose which 'package' best suits your needs. Whichever version you buy, no one has got any cheaper than you as we don't know their payment history and Loyalty points awarded in the form of £'s discounted and for what reason they got high or low discounts.

I get low discounts on upgrades or new device/contract, because I always get 1/2 bills on contract tariff, but someone else may have several low cost tariffs, but pay the full bill and thus gets a higher Loyalty reward in discounts (this applies to service providers only).

You may seemingly get the device considerably cheaper at T-Mobile or at a small SP signing you up with T-Mobile, but with a less fulfilling tariff or at a higher rate.

It all sounds terribly confusing, but it's actually quite simple when you think about it and makes perfect sense.

None of these companies lose, but neither do the customers, as we have different 'packages' or 'bundles' with service providers or sellers of other variants of the Sim free Athena.

It all works out fairly in the end....trust me.;)

[nuclear]

WTF!!!! Your post is Very long & 99% garbage.... i dont want tomtom 6 in my htc x7500. also i dont want any whatsoever accessories with it. i only want the pocket pc possibly without the box so the price cuts down. bloody hell they prolly charge me £100 more for the tomtom sheit. Also the gps sux in athena. it heats up the device so much and drains the battery like mad sheit. i am going to disable gps and use my holux gps that i bought for my universal. also i already have tomtom 6 which is basically free on the net and you can download maps. who dont know how to do that can buy the sheit for £100 whatever (noobs). So the device really costs only £450-£500!!! hahahaha. Whoever get HTC X7500 for £700-£800 getting madly ripped off.

[wu5262]

WTF!!!! Your post is Very long & 99% garbage.... i dont want tomtom 6 in my htc x7500. also i dont want any whatsoever accessories with it. i only want the pocket pc possibly without the box so the price cuts down. bloody hell they prolly charge me £100 more for the tomtom sheit. Also the gps sux in athena. it heats up the device so much and drains the battery like mad sheit. i am going to disable gps and use my holux gps that i bought for my universal. also i already have tomtom 6 which is basically free on the net and you can download maps. who dont know how to do that can buy the sheit for £100 whatever (noobs). So the device really costs only £450-£500!!! hahahaha. Whoever get HTC X7500 for £700-£800 getting madly ripped off.

man, what he say is very true, he basically just break down the price for all these three device. Advantage will cost the most, yes it will be over £700 so you won't get it under £500!!! Beside, i have the DOPOD U1000 with me and i can tell you this, GPS works really good, no heating up at all and is the same speed as my TomTom official BT receiver.

So if you really want to wait for the Black one, be prepare to spend over £650 at least!

[nuclear]

man, what he say is very true, he basically just break down the price for all these three device. Advantage will cost the most, yes it will be over £700 so you won't get it under £500!!! Beside, i have the DOPOD U1000 with me and i can tell you this, GPS works really good, no heating up at all and is the same speed as my TomTom official BT receiver.

So if you really want to wait for the Black one, be prepare to spend over £650 at least!
Sounds like a challenge. I am sure it is £500 or less.

[wu5262]

Sounds like a challenge. I am sure it is £500 or less.

btw, you do know i have direct relation with the HTC, i think i know what i am talking. So, shut your mouth....

[mackaby007]

Sounds like a challenge. I am sure it is £500 or less.

I'm beginning to realize from your posts that you really are a bit of a trouble maker and wind-up merchant. You don't seem to contribute anything of value on this forum until someone else has already done so. You only appear to be retarded, IMHO based on your comments...your actually quite immature and selfish in your way of thinking.

You don't even seem to consider that posts are meant to be of use to others. You haven't even got your X7500 yet do you? If you have, you should change your signature to reflect this and secondly...check yourself...because you obviously don't even understand the 'long' posts.

There is a huge difference between being pedantic, boring and detailed in ones instructions/description of things. You seem to comprehend only boring...showing your lack of maturity. Oh and for the record, my verbal abuse is a deliberate act of showing my frustration of some peoples stupid and thoughtless expressions of their flawed way of thinking or lack thereof.

U get me harry? Do u like it more like this?

[nuclear]

btw, you do know i have direct relation with the HTC, i think i know what i am talking. So, shut your mouth....
I like to fight. Well I will show the bill when i get my athena in april. I know someone else on this forum also posted pictures of their T-Mobile Ameo's shopping bill, it was 500Euros just as Arya had said with contract ^^... thanks Arya.
Also wu5262 i contacted the shop so many time and he told me so many times that device only costs $1000CDN without any addons. And i place my pre-order already. He already only has 5 pre-order. I am very lucky. I know wu5262 how you feel very sad you got ripped off on your dopod u1000

[mackaby007]

I like to fight. Well I will show the bill when i get my athena in april. I know someone else on this forum also posted pictures of their T-Mobile Ameo's shopping bill, it was 500Euros just as Arya had said with contract ^^... thanks Arya.
Also wu5262 i contacted the shop so many time and he told me so many times that device only costs $1000CDN without any addons. And i place my pre-order already. He already only has 5 pre-order. I am very lucky. I know wu5262 how you feel very sad you got ripped off on your dopod u1000


Talking what you don't know again? Talk when you can prove what you say...twat!

[nuclear]

Talking what you don't know again? Talk when you can prove what you say...twat!
Yea okay i will ask him to send me a invoice or an official quote. Then I can post it here. btw stop picking on me because i havent got my athena yet. because i know when i will get it you all will trade me your athena's for mine ^^. The WOW effect

[mackaby007]

@nowclear..in the head.

Maybe you should stop fighting....you've taken too many blows when you've been beaten...it shows. Hahahahahahaha ROFL. LMAO. :)

[nuclear]

@nowclear..in the head.

Maybe you should stop fighting....you've taken too many blows when you've been beaten...it shows. Hahahahahahaha ROFL. LMAO. :)
Man stop spamming already. i got my message through to you. you got blown off!

[mackaby007]

btw stop picking on me ...:(

Now you sound like a wimp...Mr I like to fight.

As I said to the last person who picked an argument with me here. It's all pointless bickering...I too have a tendancy to be up for a fight..but that's no way to be.

How about we start all over again...and you stop criticising other peoples posts. If you don't agree and actually know something to the controary, by all means say it...nicely...and people will have more respect for you.

If you've continues this nonesense whilst I've been reading this, I'm going to ignore it. Time to get back to the real world and start problem solving and sharing our findings with others.;)

[nuclear]

Now you sound like a wimp...Mr I like to fight.

As I said to the last person who picked an argument with me here. It's all pointless bickering...I too have a tendancy to be up for a fight..but that's no way to be.

How about we start all over again...and you stop criticising other peoples posts. If you don't agree and actually know something to the controary, by all means say it...nicely...and people will have more respect for you.

If you've continues this nonesense whilst I've been reading this, I'm going to ignore it. Time to get back to the real world and start problem solving and sharing our findings with others.;)
Yea I woud like to see this problem of the micro-drive when i get my athena. maybe i can refer back to this thread.

[mackaby007]

Yea I woud like to see this problem of the micro-drive when i get my athena. maybe i can refer back to this thread.


OK truce it is then. :)

Oh yes..that is what wu has been referring to all along concerning the X7500's ROM...it doesn't handle writing to the Micro Drive well, with all sorts of issues, hence the delay in it's release. Hopefully they will have it sorted in time though.

My thread about WM5torage is not about WM5torage, as it is not knew software, but it is a brilliant workaround for direct file transfer to the built-in (non removable Micro Drive).

Hope you understand us now. You'll see anyway, when your X7500 comes.;)

[wu5262]

OK truce it is then. :)

Oh yes..that is what wu has been referring to all along concerning the X7500's ROM...it doesn't handle writing to the Micro Drive well, with all sorts of issues, hence the delay in it's release. Hopefully they will have it sorted in time though.

My thread about WM5torage is not about WM5torage, as it is not knew software, but it is a brilliant workaround for direct file transfer to the built-in (non removable Micro Drive).

Hope you understand us now. You'll see anyway, when your X7500 comes.;)

finally, the fight is over.....anyway
mackaby007, the problem on your Ameo is not the same as Advantage, your issue is new and never been reported by the tester.
Let me say it clear again, the Micro Drive problem that the Advantage has is to do with their Rom, the problem is, for example if you are watching a movie from your Micro drive on the road, and you accidentally shake by any means, the Micro Drive should stop working for a tiny mini second and resume working after that. That's what Ameo and Dopod is doing, but with Advantage, it's not doing that, it doesn't stop at the correct moment and it doesn't resume correctly, this wrong behavior actually make the Micro Drive drain more battery and result in more bad sector on the Micro Drive. I can insure you this problem will be solve before they release it.

Anyway, i don't really care how much you will get your Advantage for nuclear, you haven't got it yet. And no, i do not want to swap mine to yours because i don't want the black one, so i simply don't care about it.

[jameshuang]

Hi,
Just wondering if there is any invoice/ bill can show to the community that the device is less than 750USD (1000Candian dollar)
I am very interest to see as I just get rip off by my telco in Hong Kong. ;)
(1000USD with accessories included)

BTW, for people interest about the pricing, Hong Kong list price is 9880HKD with accessories pack. (GPS.. etc..)
Regards,
Jamess

[wu5262]

Hi,
Just wondering if there is any invoice/ bill can show to the community that the device is less than 750USD (1000Candian dollar)
I am very interest to see as I just get rip off by my telco in Hong Kong. ;)
(1000USD with accessories included)

BTW, for people interest about the pricing, Hong Kong list price is 9880HKD with accessories pack. (GPS.. etc..)
Regards,
Jamess

no one got it at 750 USD right now, apart from the T-mobile Ameo, but that is with contract. The person who says he got pre-order for 750USD, well, he hasn't got his device yet. I think the price you got are pretty reasonable. The best price i can get for DOPOD U1000 in taiwan is £600