The HTC Guide: Hermes - (04-07-08)

[mrvanx]

Hey people, since it seems to be getting quite popular heres the official thread for the Hermes upgrade guide ive written.
The guide has now moved to a new host so dont forget to update any links you use!!

The HTC Guide (http://www.mrvanx.org)

Individual Hermes guides:

Upgrading ROMs (http://www.mrvanx.org/guide/hermes/upgrades/rom)
Upgrading Radio stack (http://www.mrvanx.org/guide/hermes/upgrades/radio)
SPL Downgrade guide (http://www.mrvanx.org/guide/hermes/downgrades/spl)
Easy custom splashscreens*
TCPMP/Coreplayer video encoding*
Upgrading SPL to HardSPL v7 (2.10.olipro) (http://www.mrvanx.org/guide/hermes/upgrades/hardspl)
Downgrading to WM5*


* Currently updating the guides so please check back

Please read the guide word for word and you should be successfull in carrying out the procedures described.
DO NOT pm me if you have already posted in this thread, i WILL NOT answer you if you do!
Enjoy ;)

[mousey_]

This Should Be Made A Sticky Or At Least Added To The Sticky That Points To The Helpful Threads.

Cheers

[jcb_home]

Great guide. this should help the noobs.

Thanks for your work on these.

[2007skc]

MrVanX,

This is nice. Though I do not need it anymore, since I had to read the wiki and all the posts to get to where I am now, I am sure it will help reduce some of the noob questions.

I do not regret doing what I had to do, since I learned a lot during the process.

But thanks for taking the time to make this.

[Newb-Tech-Realtor]

Thank you for the guide, I really do appreciate it.

One question though after doing a search and checking the wiki.

I checked my bootloader and it is 1.10 Oli.

I was going to load the HardSPL v3 prior to upgraded to the 1.38 radio.

One of the choices of bootloader is NOT 1.10 Oli...does this mean I do not need to do the HardSPL? Or do I still need it?

Thanks in advance...and if I missed the thread I'm prepared to smack myself across the face 20 times in restitution.

:)

Jim

[mrvanx]

Thank you for the guide, I really do appreciate it.

One question though after doing a search and checking the wiki.

I checked my bootloader and it is 1.10 Oli.

I was going to load the HardSPL v3 prior to upgraded to the 1.38 radio.

One of the choices of bootloader is NOT 1.10 Oli...does this mean I do not need to do the HardSPL? Or do I still need it?

Thanks in advance...and if I missed the thread I'm prepared to smack myself across the face 20 times in restitution.

:)

Jim

You will notice in "how to upgrade HardSPL v3" the guide says "if your version is 1.10.oli or 1.11.oli select the BLUE OPTION". When you run the HardSPL v3 installer you select the force sspl option. OK?? (i changed the wording of the guide)

[bkbroil]

Excellent guides...I've updated my sig with new URLs..

U Da Man!

[Newb-Tech-Realtor]

You will notice in "how to upgrade HardSPL v3" the guide says "if your version is 1.10.oli or 1.11.oli select the BLUE OPTION". When you run the HardSPL v3 installer you select the force sspl option. OK?? (i changed the wording of the guide)

Noted and thank you.

Jim

[ach2]

What a great guide - would have saved me endless trouble when I started upgrading (including my brick - repaired courtesy of Vodafone:) ) - but then again I've also learned loads the harder way.

Can you just write a guide on Un-Bricking, Cooking Roms, Installing apps, Creating Cabs, Searching, Reading the Wiki etc, etc :D :D (Hmmm, now there's a project)

Only kidding, but maybe if we can link this guide and the Unbricking thread to be the first thing a new member sees when they sign up as a member to the forums we may see less 'help I'm a fuckwit' threads:rolleyes:

[michaelfoo]

Excellent guide!

Just wondering, will you be creating a "downgrade guide" for those who wish to revert everything back to their original state (OS ROM, Radio ROM & bootloader) for warranty purposes?

Thanks!

[simon1219]

Excellent guide!

Just wondering, will you be creating a "downgrade guide" for those who wish to revert everything back to their original state (OS ROM, Radio ROM & bootloader) for warranty purposes?

Thanks!

Yes, pls create a "downgrade guide" for us newbie in case we need to send in our device that is under warranty.

[TwoPlus1]

Hi, it might just be my system but the SPL download link appears to be broken

Martyn

[mrvanx]

Link fixed, thanks for the heads-up! ;)

[TwoPlus1]

Hi, sorry to be a pain but I'm following your advise and going through the guide step by step and can't download the radio.

BTW: The SPL worked a treat, I'm planning on trying the LVMS flavour.

[mrvanx]

The links for the Radio are all working fine, are you using Winrar (http://www.rarlab.com/)?? You need it for opening the radio package.

[mrvanx]

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[mrvanx]

Bump, guide updated for HardSPL v4

[festermania]

Bump, guide updated for HardSPL v4
Hi Great Works...
But need update main menu...


Flashing individual components:

HardSPL v3
Radio v1.38.00.10
WM6 ROM Upgrade Guides:



V4 and not v3 ;)

[gregouille]

Hi
I'm quite a noob, so I apologize if i ask for something already mentionned.
I'm on SPL1.09 after install of LVSW 03/20.

I want to install HardSPL v4.
- This means only the bootloader files of the rom will be modified. Am I right ?

I need to check the yellow line.
But do I need to check "Is it hardSPL" ? What is this for ?

Then, as I understand, if i install a new ROM with radio, it'll modify the SPL again ?

Thanx

Greg

[panzer]

sticky sweet

[mrvanx]

Hi
I'm quite a noob, so I apologize if i ask for something already mentionned.
I'm on SPL1.09 after install of LVSW 03/20.

I want to install HardSPL v4.
- This means only the bootloader files of the rom will be modified. Am I right ?

I need to check the yellow line.
But do I need to check "Is it hardSPL" ? What is this for ?

Then, as I understand, if i install a new ROM with radio, it'll modify the SPL again ?

Thanx

Greg

Install HardSPLv4 as in the guide (http://www.mrvanx.myzen.co.uk/hermes_guide/HardSPL.html), only your SPL will change. For more info read the HardSPL thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=296722) ;) But i definatly recommend flashing HardSPLv4 because SPL 1.09 is a brick-maker (from recent events).

[mrvanx]

guide updated for LVSW

[Lowglide]

This was a lot of help. I have read the Wiki and the forums and the sheer amount of information that keeps changing so fast makes it rather confusing. But you manged to pull the up-to-date stuff together in one place and make it a easy and linear process. Thank you very much!

I followd all your steps and all portions of my 8525 are now updated. I had previously just done some patches and the OS upgrade which had left me fighting some bugs. Now it seems a lot smoother.

Thanks again for your hard work, and of course the work of the people that make the made the programs that went into it.
Lowglide

[Murcielago]

I have some basic questions :
- I actually have LVSW 03/13 version install (20070313_HermesWM6_LVSW_edition_WM6Style.exe)
- I have upgraded to HardSPL 1.30 yesterday (no problem).
- I would like to install LVSW version 03/26 so I have downloaded the 20070326_RUU_Hermes_WWE_3.23.0.2_only_OS.exe file
- When I execute it, it asks me to specify which SPL version I have.

In your guide, you say that I have to use Force Using SSPL....
1) Why shouldn't I select SPL 1.11/1.13/1.30 New Bootloader instead ?
2) If I select this one, does it mean that it's reinstall SPL 1.30 on my Hermes ?
3) What's the difference between selecting Force Using SSPL and SPL 1.11/1.13/1.30 ???

Thanks in advance and I'm sorry if these questions are basic.

[d1archie]

Excellent guide. Thanks for compiling, mr vanx. I'm sure this will be very helpful to a lot of people. Keep up the good work. As a feel good factor, which I'm sure you are already aware of, I know that this guide has helped to avoid many a bricked device.

Thanks again, and keep up the excellent work.

[Wessel.Dk]

Sorry, but what is HardSPL and how will i know which version i have? Using a HTC TyTN Hermes 200

[Murcielago]

Sorry, but what is HardSPL and how will i know which version i have? Using a HTC TyTN Hermes 200
This is explained in the Guide......

The first stage of this process is to determine which SPL(bootloader) you have on your device. To do this press and hold both the side OK button and the power button and then press the reset button by putting the stylus into the hole in the bottom of the device. Your device will enter the bootloader and display which IPL and SPL versions are on the device. Make a note of the SPL version on the device, we will use this in a minute.

[mrvanx]

notice the line that reads:

This stage is crucial to allow (fairly) safe flashing of new roms/radios etc...
This modified bootloader allows the flashing of any ROM to the device (regardless of the CID) and can help to prevent damage to the device if a failed radio flash occurs (since it doesn't read the CID a corrupt one will not present a problem).

Kinda the gist of it, but it also protects against bad NAND blocks in the device now.

For people with older versions of HardSPL (1.10.oli, 1.11.oli, 1.13.oli) get a ROM that has HardSPLv4 and flash it forcing SSPL (we want the new SPL version). If you already have HardSPLv4 (1.30.olipro) you can check the green option and tick the box below it. But forcing SSPL will be ok aswell if it is OS only in the ROM.

Il change my guide slightly, just makes it complicated for newbs to understand?!

[marisa4755]

Newb alert!

Should sim card and sd card be left in the device or taken out. I have searched, but not found an answer to this.

thank you.

[mrvanx]

Leave them in ;) you can remove the SD card if you like.

[marisa4755]

Thank you for the help

[raix]

Can someone upload the Radio Rom to Rapidshare?
I tried the FTP Site with 3 different Tools now but everytime i get a Connection Timeout.

[Mesmeric]

Yo

Many thanks for this guide i will trying the old girl out tonight and hopefully all will go well!

Thanks again!

Mesmeric

[raix]

So i found this Link in the wiki (should have looked there first):
http://rapidshare.com/files/22823346/Radio_1.38.30.10.rar.html
what's the difference between this one and the linked one in your Guide?
Can i use this one?

[mrvanx]

Nothing, radio version 1.38.00.10 is the same regardless.
If it is in my guide then use the one i link to, however i cannot vouch for ones found elsewhere.

[Murcielago]

notice the line that reads:


Kinda the gist of it, but it also protects against bad NAND blocks in the device now.

For people with older versions of HardSPL (1.10.oli, 1.11.oli, 1.13.oli) get a ROM that has HardSPLv4 and flash it forcing SSPL (we want the new SPL version). If you already have HardSPLv4 (1.30.olipro) you can check the green option and tick the box below it. But forcing SSPL will be ok aswell if it is OS only in the ROM.

Il change my guide slightly, just makes it complicated for newbs to understand?!

Thanks a lot for your answer and keep up the fantastic job your doing.
Thanks for your help

[raix]

MrVanx i would use the one linked in your guide, if the FTP wouldn't time out everytime i try to download it ;)

[mrvanx]

Use an ftp program (if you have firefox install the Fireftp add-on). The latest Radio on there is not one i am familiar with. I will PM Pof about the link in the wiki, but for now PLEASE use radio 1.38.00.10 (just to be safe).

[hasanj4]

@MrVanx
When I try to run the ROMUpgrade for the HardSPL v4, I get the following:
"To run this application, you must first install one of the following versions od .NET Framework: v2.0.50727"

I went to M$ site and I am faced with 3 versions of v2 .NET framework:
x86 version - 280mb
x64 version - 610mb
IA64 version

These are mighty big files that will take forever to download

Please advise.

Thnx,
Hasan J.

[raix]

The posted Link above is from the wiki and it's 1.38.00.10
But your linked file is named RADIO_1.38.00.10_Only_SSPL.rar.
I'm just wondering what's the "Only SSP" says. Or if i can use the 1.38.00.10 from the Wiki. ;)

[hasanj4]

further-
found the link for v3 .NET Framework:
http://download.microsoft.com/download/4/d/a/4da3a5fa-ee6a-42b8-8bfa-ea5c4a458a7d/dotnetfx3setup.exe

installer 2.8mb
v3 .NET Framework 54mb

downloading now

[mrvanx]

The posted Link above is from the wiki and it's 1.38.00.10
But your linked file is named RADIO_1.38.00.10_Only_SSPL.rar.
I'm just wondering what's the "Only SSP" says. Or if i can use the 1.38.00.10 from the Wiki. ;)

Its the same file.

The filenaming scheme is that it is the 1.38.00.10 radio only. And it uses des's SSPL to push the radio to the device. I didn't mention this info in the guide as i see no reason to.

Just follow the guide word for word and you will be fine! :D

[mrvanx]

@MrVanx
When I try to run the ROMUpgrade for the HardSPL v4, I get the following:
"To run this application, you must first install one of the following versions od .NET Framework: v2.0.50727"

I went to M$ site and I am faced with 3 versions of v2 .NET framework:
x86 version - 280mb
x64 version - 610mb
IA64 version

These are mighty big files that will take forever to download

Please advise.

Thnx,
Hasan J.

further-
found the link for v3 .NET Framework:
http://download.microsoft.com/download/4/d/a/4da3a5fa-ee6a-42b8-8bfa-ea5c4a458a7d/dotnetfx3setup.exe

installer 2.8mb
v3 .NET Framework 54mb

downloading now

The guide CLEARLY has the link to the .net 2.0 framework. As it states you NEED this to run the RUU (Rom Upgrade Utility) files that we used to upgrade. Sorry there is no way around this.

[raix]

Thank you for your help ;)
I'm upgrading now.

[hasanj4]

The guide CLEARLY has the link to the .net 2.0 framework. As it states you NEED this to run the RUU (Rom Upgrade Utility) files that we used to upgrade. Sorry there is no way around this.

No prob - will do.
v3 should be OK? I guess!

[mrvanx]

No prob - will do.
v3 should be OK? I guess!

Yer should be, if not then use the 2.0 link in the guide.

[hasanj4]

FYI-

v3 .NET Framework works perfectly.
Link few posts above.

Thnx mrvanx for your guidance to all.

[mrvanx]

Guide updated for HardSPL v5

[texazzpete]

@mrvanx
Thanks for your excellent guide. In the section to flash nardspl v5 (LVSW Rom) your guide has this;

For version 1.01MFG use the RED OPTION
For version 1.04,1.06 and 1.09 use the YELLOW OPTION
For version 1.11 use the GREEN OPTION
For versions 1.10.oli,1.11.oli or 1.13.oli use the BLUE OPTION.

i'm already on HardSpl v4 (SPL 1.30 Oli) if i had to guess i'd choose the 'Force Using SSPL' option. that right?

Thanks again!

[mrvanx]

@mrvanx
Thanks for your excellent guide. In the section to flash nardspl v5 (LVSW Rom) your guide has this;

For version 1.01MFG use the RED OPTION
For version 1.04,1.06 and 1.09 use the YELLOW OPTION
For version 1.11 use the GREEN OPTION
For versions 1.10.oli,1.11.oli or 1.13.oli use the BLUE OPTION.

i'm already on HardSpl v4 (SPL 1.30 Oli) if i had to guess i'd choose the 'Force Using SSPL' option. that right?

Thanks again!

shit, forgot to change that. Yes use the Blue option.

[seraphim007]

thanks for this guide, it has been quite useful. :D

[mrvanx]

thanks for this guide, it has been quite useful. :D

Nearly 5000 hits cannot be bad eh? :D (and thats unique visitors not just pageloads)

[jcespi2005]

Nearly 5000 hits cannot be bad eh? :D (and thats unique visitors not just pageloads)

Congratulations ;)

this guide must be a "must have" for all of newb...

is there any way to see more visible to newb this guide?

Thanks for yor work.

[weinson]

Not sure whether it was worth integrating into the formal guide ... mrvanx can be the judge of that ... but I put together a little how-to for Goodlink users upgrading from WM5 to WM6 ... see this thread here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=300115).

[Olipro]

as a blanket statement;

Flash Hard-SPL using the Force-SPL option.

HOWEVER, DO NOT use Force SSPL when flashing anything else, even if it contains a Hard-SPL.

[Chatty]

@Olipro: why not? I just upgraded from XDA live 0.20 (having SPL 1.01 MFG on it) to newest LSVW using "Force using SSPL" because I haven't had newest CustomRUU (with SPL auto detection). And all went well.

[cedriclafon]

thanks a lot perfect:) :) :)

[louisw]

On the LVSW page, the link to the ROM thread links to the XDA 0.2 thread instead of the LVSW thread.

By the end of this guide your Hermes will have the following:

* SPL (Bootloader) version 1.35.Olipro (HardSPL v5)
* Radio version 1.38.00.10 (optional)
* ROM version 3.22.110.1 (Windows Mobile 6, LVSW Edition)

<li><font face="Arial">
<a href="http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=296722">SPL (Bootloader)
version 1.35.Olipro (HardSPL v5)</a></font></li>

<li><font face="Arial">
<a href="http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=297925">Radio version 1.38.00.10</a>
(optional)</font></li>
<li><font face="Arial">
<a href="http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=296126">ROM version


3.22.110.1 (Windows Mobile 6, LVSW Edition)</a></font></li>


BTW. I read so much but never made the jump until your guide came out. I am on xda live 0.2 but will prob try the other's this weekend.

[sco0by]

I followed the first 2 stages of your guide - upgraded to HardSPL v5 and radio 1.38.00.10 with no problems.

I'm on the Upgrading to WMVI Black v1.2 stage but the screen I'm getting does not match the one shown on the guide.

The first screen is the same, I select the green option and tick purple box, but the next screen is saying: "Please be aware that this flasher is intended solely for SPL 1.11 and you MUST have 1.11 Hard-SPL installed in order to flash any unsigned files." This is different from the one shown on the guide.

Did I miss something? I tried rebooting my phone and checking that the SPL version was correct and it shows as 1.35Olipro just like in the guide.

Hopefully I'm missing something obvious, but I thought I'd check as I'm a n00b at this and I dont fancy bricking my phone!

Oh and my phone is a T-Mobile MDA VarioII.

TIA!

[mrvanx]

I followed the first 2 stages of your guide - upgraded to HardSPL v5 and radio 1.38.00.10 with no problems.

I'm on the Upgrading to WMVI Black v1.2 stage but the screen I'm getting does not match the one shown on the guide.

The first screen is the same, I select the green option and tick purple box, but the next screen is saying: "Please be aware that this flasher is intended solely for SPL 1.11 and you MUST have 1.11 Hard-SPL installed in order to flash any unsigned files." This is different from the one shown on the guide.

Did I miss something? I tried rebooting my phone and checking that the SPL version was correct and it shows as 1.35Olipro just like in the guide.

Hopefully I'm missing something obvious, but I thought I'd check as I'm a n00b at this and I dont fancy bricking my phone!

Oh and my phone is a T-Mobile MDA VarioII.

TIA!

Good question gimme a sec.....yes should be fine, just tick the box and continue.

[sco0by]

Yup works perfectly ;)

Great guide - thanks!

[pdausr1]

Great guide! I wish something like this was here last year when I got my Hermes. I'm sure it will cut down on n00b questions, and make actually READING the threads easier. Thanks for making the best windows mobile site, that much better!

[truffle1234]

I am using Dopod 838 Pro (Hermes HTC) and i have the following ROM upgrader, can some one please tell me if they have upgraded there Hermes and it was sucssesful.. as i have seen too many bricked story on this website...

[pdausr1]

I am using Dopod 838 Pro (Hermes HTC) and i have the following ROM upgrader, can some one please tell me if they have upgraded there Hermes and it was sucssesful.. as i have seen too many bricked story on this website...


Short answer yes! Read this guide Hermes Upgrade Guide it's the first page and title of this thread. AND THANKS FOR CONTRADICTING MY LAST POST SO QUICKLY!

[sir_italia]

Hi I have just upgrade today and ticked the yellow one for version 1.09 and the flash went fine. Then i entered bootloader and it said 1.35. But then when i flashed the new radio it say 1.09 is this normal? I am just not sure.
Sorry if this has already been asked or if it is a dumb question

[mrvanx]

Not a dumb queston, when you upgraded it used "1.09.des" which is SSPL. What were you upgrading with?..........EDIT, never mind.

Dont worry you have HardSPLv5 on your device.

[Avantis]

O do not seem to be able to download the 1.35 oli pro zip file..Comes up with "unexpected end of archive message" message. Could someone post another link to it please?

[mrvanx]

There is only one link to it. Give your pc a reboot and start again sir.

[Avantis]

Have managed to get it now..

[sir_italia]

Not a dumb queston, when you upgraded it used "1.09.des" which is SSPL. What were you upgrading with?..........EDIT, never mind.

Dont worry you have HardSPLv5 on your device.

Thanxs for the fast reply so it is normal not to show 1.35 when it does the radio upgrade or rom upgrade and instead show 1.9?

[mrvanx]

Thanxs for the fast reply so it is normal not to show 1.35 when it does the radio upgrade or rom upgrade and instead show 1.9?

Yes like i said it was the version of SSPL which the installer used.

(this is in the various threads so please do a search)
SSPL by Des is a secondary bootloader which is pushed to the device by the RUU, It does the flashing process instead of your embedded SPL (HardSPL) and on the screen it will display "1.09.des". This bypasses the CID checks etc...

[sir_italia]

Once again thanxs that makes thing a alot clearer.

[davidwza]

I need some help here, I have followed the guide and tried to update to Hard SPL5 as well WMVI but all i get when completed is that the image is corrupt, my phone is also extremly slow - any help here would be appreciated, i am also running .netV3 - could this be the problem?

[mrvanx]

Guide updated for HardSPLv6.

[davidwza]

Guide updated for HardSPLv6.

link not working

[mrvanx]

link not working

which link???

[davidwza]

which link???

the link to download HardSPL6 on this page

http://www.mrvanx.myzen.co.uk/hermes_guide/HardSPL.html

[mrvanx]

the link to download HardSPL6 on this page

http://www.mrvanx.myzen.co.uk/hermes_guide/HardSPL.html

Nope it isnt broken. Works fine.

[davidwza]

Nope it isnt broken. Works fine.

doesnt work for me i get an invalid attachment message, but no matter I did download it from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=296722

I would like to ask a quick question though and that is when you do the upgrade must you select force Hard SPL as in the page i have put a link to above the instruction is to force the hard spl.

thanks for the help

[mrvanx]

doesnt work for me i get an invalid attachment message, but no matter I did download it from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=296722

I would like to ask a quick question though and that is when you do the upgrade must you select force Hard SPL as in the page i have put a link to above the instruction is to force the hard spl.

thanks for the help

The guide says to use "force Using SSPL", thats all you need to do.

[Kai920]

doesnt work for me i get an invalid attachment message, but no matter I did download it from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=296722

I would like to ask a quick question though and that is when you do the upgrade must you select force Hard SPL as in the page i have put a link to above the instruction is to force the hard spl.

thanks for the help

I downloaded from the above link too and was able to upgrade my SPL following the guide. (excellent guide btw... following it now to get rid of stinking WM5)

[chainbolt]

Outstanding contribution! I followed the guide and did not encounter any problem. New SPL, new radio, and WM6.

[mrvanx]

Not sure what heppened with the link, it worked fine for me, and for a few others, the link in the hardspl thread has changed so i have also change the one in the guide.

[McMastaBlasta]

Hi I am a noob here and so I have maybe a stupid question.
I want to cook a German version of the the new
RUU_Hermes_QTEK_WWE_2.11.255.1_102_6275_1.38.00.10 _108_Ship.exe
Rom. So that I can keep all new things like AKU, Radio Rom and Protocol.

But I don`t know how to do this. I still like to use WM5.
WM6 gave me some problems with non functional features.

Can someone give my a "walk-trough" and my last question is wth. is AKU??? :confused:

Thanks in advanced!

[mrvanx]

Hi I am a noob here and so I have maybe a stupid question.
I want to cook a German version of the the new
RUU_Hermes_QTEK_WWE_2.11.255.1_102_6275_1.38.00.10 _108_Ship.exe
Rom. So that I can keep all new things like AKU, Radio Rom and Protocol.

But I don`t know how to do this. I still like to use WM5.
WM6 gave me some problems with non functional features.

Can someone give my a "walk-trough" and my last question is wth. is AKU??? :confused:

Thanks in advanced!

ALL your questions will be answered by reading the wiki and searching through the threads mentioned. ;)

[s2k7]

Read following post in detail:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=299462
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=296107

Rough steps:

1. run "RUU_Hermes_QTEK_WWE_2.11.255.1_102_6275_1.38.00.10 _108_Ship.exe". Find necessary files under USERNAME\Local Settings\Temp\*\*.nbh
2. Use "NBHTOOL" to Decompile the above *.nbh
3. Take out wanted-only files: such as Radio.nb, etc.
4. Use "NBHTOOL" to convert Files in step3: nb->nbh
5. Use "RUUWrapper" to flash

Do remember to
Upgrading SPL to HardSPL v6
first!:D

Hi I am a noob here and so I have maybe a stupid question.
I want to cook a German version of the the new
RUU_Hermes_QTEK_WWE_2.11.255.1_102_6275_1.38.00.10 _108_Ship.exe
Rom. So that I can keep all new things like AKU, Radio Rom and Protocol.

But I don`t know how to do this. I still like to use WM5.
WM6 gave me some problems with non functional features.

Can someone give my a "walk-trough" and my last question is wth. is AKU??? :confused:

Thanks in advanced!

[falcc]

Today is the first time I've looked at changing anything on my jasjam. Your guide was a "pot of gold". It was simple, clear and most importantly, up to date!

There is a tonne of information on this site but like most good forums it can be very difficult to find the exact answers when you are new.

Unfortunately the process did not go smoothly for me(first Hardspl failed part way through, worked second time, then the radio upgrade failed and left it stuck in boot mode for a while, then it took multiple attempts to get WM6 on to it) and I had a few stressful hours. But eventually I got WM6 on and it is working well. Thanks again.

[mrvanx]

Today is the first time I've looked at changing anything on my jasjam. Your guide was a "pot of gold". It was simple, clear and most importantly, up to date!

There is a tonne of information on this site but like most good forums it can be very difficult to find the exact answers when you are new.

Unfortunately the process did not go smoothly for me(first Hardspl failed part way through, worked second time, then the radio upgrade failed and left it stuck in boot mode for a while, then it took multiple attempts to get WM6 on to it) and I had a few stressful hours. But eventually I got WM6 on and it is working well. Thanks again.

WOW thats unlucky even for a first timer! Is there any reason why your flashing processes have failed so frequently?? Is the USB port you use dodgy? or is your PC vulnerable to crashing fairly often??

Glad my 'pot o gold' was worth the read :D

[simumarek]

Hi I have a hard spl SPV M3100, and I upgraded it to new WM06 rom, but I cant downgrade it back to the orange ROM, what shoul I do? When I am flashing this device it allways return back the error message, that my device is not conected, but it is, I can flah any ROM and I have a cid unlocked device, but I cant put back the original orange rom, what should I do?

[mrvanx]

Hi I have a hard spl SPV M3100, and I upgraded it to new WM06 rom, but I cant downgrade it back to the orange ROM, what shoul I do? When I am flashing this device it allways return back the error message, that my device is not conected, but it is, I can flah any ROM and I have a cid unlocked device, but I cant put back the original orange rom, what should I do?

you may need to repackage the ROM using the CustomRUU by olipro. Since the original orange rom would probably use a (probably VERY) old RUU (Rom Update Utility) it might not agree with our newer version of SPL (1.40.olipro).

open the RUU (the orange ROM .exe) using winrar and you should see a file ending in .nbh?? Extract that onto your desktop and download the customRUU program, try flashing again and choose autodetect when you run it. Your SPL will remain to be HardSPL but the rest will be downgraded including the radio and OS.

Before you do this why would you want to?? Also im not sure if you really should downgrade your radio, dunno what the effect would be.

[falcc]

WOW thats unlucky even for a first timer! Is there any reason why your flashing processes have failed so frequently?? Is the USB port you use dodgy? or is your PC vulnerable to crashing fairly often??


I'm not sure why it failed so often. I tried different usb ports and the PC didn't miss a beat otherwise during any of the attempts. I've never had any problem with this machine. When trying to flash WM6 I would get Error [302] after only a few percent completed.

The failed radio flash was the one that had me really worried though. All of the terminology, acronymns etc. are hard to pick up when it is all new.

Still, it's one way to learn! :)

[simumarek]

you may need to repackage the ROM using the CustomRUU by olipro. Since the original orange rom would probably use a (probably VERY) old RUU (Rom Update Utility) it might not agree with our newer version of SPL (1.40.olipro).

open the RUU (the orange ROM .exe) using winrar and you should see a file ending in .nbh?? Extract that onto your desktop and download the customRUU program, try flashing again and choose autodetect when you run it. Your SPL will remain to be HardSPL but the rest will be downgraded including the radio and OS.

Before you do this why would you want to?? Also im not sure if you really should downgrade your radio, dunno what the effect would be.
Because I need to bring my SPV M3100 to my operator and I dont wanna have there a diferend rom as they flashed in it :)

[mrvanx]

Guide updated for the latest 3DES ROM. (3DES.2)

[Halldor]

Much appreciated Mate......CHEERS!

[d1archie]

Have completed many upgrades using this guide. Excellent work.

Thanks.

[leoj]

mrvanx,
I would guess there are many of us out here who are not exactly uninitiated to the rigors of code writing but who are sufficiently inexperienced about the Hermes OS that we are quite hesitant to dive in and use the ROMs appearing on the XDA site. Your guide to upgrading was essential for me to take advantage of the wonderful and inventive work done by the ROM makers. I really appreciate this site for it's commitment to moving these devices forward and for helping people like myself to take advantage of their work. Thanks very much.

[PostDeals]

Information about each rom would be great and a recommended one as to why one is better over another.

thanks.

[Murcielago]

Can someone make this post sticky please ? It's a really awesome job and can help a lot of noob

[rforss]

Just a quick note to say I followed the instructions and it worked.

I also used Resco FileManager to replace the sms_provider.dll and installed the dev certs as I'm on Orange in UK and wanted the voice mail indicator.

Very happy with result. Thanks for the great work.

[mrvanx]

Guys and gals ive received a PM requesting some translated versions of the guide, now a seperate mirrored guide would be impractical since im updating this thing almost daily for one rom release or another (working on the black 2.0 guide now). Im thinking of using the google translate function but since the only lingo i speak is english and a VERY little bit of francais and deutsch ive no idea if it is any good! :D

Can somebody request a language and PM me (somebody who is online now and able to take a look)??

[mrvanx]

Guide updated for WM6 Pro Black 2.0

Anyone willing to take a quick look at a translated version of the guide give me a PM with whatever langauge you wish to view

[Shamanix]

Maybe you could make a guide how to downgrade everything in case of guaranty purposes ?

[euancollin]

Just FYI I've completed a successful update to Pro Black 2.0 :D thanks to your guide :) .
one small difference was that the ROM update did not register the SPL version of 1.40-OliPro and presented a warning that the updater should only be run against devices running SPL versions 1.11 or later :confused: . I was confident that the SPL version I had *was* higher so I proceeded with the installation.

Not sure if you want to add this to the guide - in my excitement I neglected to take a screen shot :( so perhaps this is just for reference.

Thanks for the guide - VERY HELPFUL.

[jasjamming]

mrvanx

ive added a link to your upgrading guide for black in my first post.

keep up the good work!

[mrvanx]

mrvanx

ive added a link to your upgrading guide for black in my first post.

keep up the good work!

You too dude ;)

[invictive]

Just FYI I've completed a successful update to Pro Black 2.0 :D thanks to your guide :) .
one small difference was that the ROM update did not register the SPL version of 1.40-OliPro and presented a warning that the updater should only be run against devices running SPL versions 1.11 or later :confused: . I was confident that the SPL version I had *was* higher so I proceeded with the installation.

Not sure if you want to add this to the guide - in my excitement I neglected to take a screen shot :( so perhaps this is just for reference.

Thanks for the guide - VERY HELPFUL.


I got the same screen as you as well, it popped up in red lettering. I just went ahead with it anyways and everything went fine. Might want to upgrade the guide to mention this though so it doesn't mess up any other n00bs.

Any idea when we will see the Windows Vista guide? I'm itching to get rid of XP, but am just holding on to it for flashing purposes at the moment.

Thanks for all your hard work with the guides, I got into XDA-DEV a few weeks before you started making them, and they sure would have made things easier to begin with! But its probably just as well I learnt how to do things the hard way and Read hundreds of pages on here and the wiki...

[mrvanx]

I got the same screen as you as well, it popped up in red lettering. I just went ahead with it anyways and everything went fine. Might want to upgrade the guide to mention this though so it doesn't mess up any other n00bs.

Any idea when we will see the Windows Vista guide? I'm itching to get rid of XP, but am just holding on to it for flashing purposes at the moment.

Thanks for all your hard work with the guides, I got into XDA-DEV a few weeks before you started making them, and they sure would have made things easier to begin with! But its probably just as well I learnt how to do things the hard way and Read hundreds of pages on here and the wiki...

Yer the vista guide doesnt seem to be progressing as i would like, having not got a copy of vista i cant just do the screenshots etc... myself.
Im gathering info though ;)

[MKnoch]

I have a DOPOD 838 Pro and had flash many different things in the past and was excited to see the new boot loader that would hopefully prevent "brick making". I quickly put the SPL1.40Olipro on my phone no problems. I next went to flash the radio to 1.38 and here is where the problems began. Following the directions in the very nice guide I got to the point were it was starting to download the file but it never moved off 0%. I waited 2 hours and finally pulled the plug. Well needless to say I now have a semi brick that is on life support. The phone is stuck in the boot loader mode and will not do anything for me. I can talk to it using mtty but do not have any clue how to rececitate it back to life. Please help a brother with some trick I might try to bring it back from the brink of death.

Thanks

[invictive]

Yer the vista guide doesnt seem to be progressing as i would like, having not got a copy of vista i cant just do the screenshots etc... myself.
Im gathering info though ;)

If you need someone to take screenshots and whatnot just let me know, I'd be glad to help out.

[rockky]

A undoubtedly dumb question.... I downloaded the black2.0 rom with 1.30.olipro spl......except I didn't tick the box required (hadn't found this guide)... it seems to be running ok.... would you guys still suggest downloading it again with 1.40olipro???? (which I have now)?????
More than glad to do it if there's good reason to.
Thanks!

[ach2]

A undoubtedly dumb question.... I downloaded the black2.0 rom with 1.30.olipro spl......except I didn't tick the box required (hadn't found this guide)... it seems to be running ok.... would you guys still suggest downloading it again with 1.40olipro???? (which I have now)?????
More than glad to do it if there's good reason to.
Thanks!

Unless you have problems with the ROM I don't think it's necessary to re-run the upgrade, but check your SPL. If it isn't 1.40 Oli then upgrade this part only with HardSPL V6 (1.40 Oli) from this link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=296722.

[mrvanx]

A kind soul has translated the site into Italian :D . If anyone else wishes to enquire about translating the guide into another language then please gimme a PM.

[mrvanx]

New guide added, its a guide for encoding videos into .avi for your Hermes
Enjoy people ;)

[mrvanx]

ANOTHER guide LOL!
How to downgrade to WM5 from WM6.

Could some kind soul verify my instructions are totally correct?!?!?

[lpsi2000]

ANOTHER guide LOL!
How to downgrade to WM5 from WM6.

Could some kind soul verify my instructions are totally correct?!?!?

You are the man:cool:

[mrvanx]

You are the man:cool:

If anyone spots any problems with the downgrade guide please tell me.

[tdream]

New guide added, its a guide for encoding videos into .avi for your Hermes
Enjoy people ;)

Thanks for that, you're a shining star in the community! I used autogk as per your recommendation with excellent results. You can delete this noob post if you wish to keep things tidy. Just showing my appreciation. Thanks again.

[URPREY]

If anyone spots any problems with the downgrade guide please tell me.
I noticed that the number preceding each of the parts of my Cingular 2.06 ROM were slightly different (i.e. my extROM filename is 04_ExtROM.nb whereas yours lists 05_ExtROM.nb). I assume this is just a difference between certain ROMs? I was still able to use the guide perfectly. Thanks for compiling all that information! Even though I've been around a while, it's VERY helpful to reassure me when I'm doing something for the first time :)

[Sniper258]

If anyone spots any problems with the downgrade guide please tell me.

Great guide
I think you have to make it clear that downgrading only the OS but not the radio.
Now I'm not an expert but correct me if I'm wrong.
Thanks for the time invested on the excellent guides.

[TechBill]

ANOTHER guide LOL!
How to downgrade to WM5 from WM6.

Could some kind soul verify my instructions are totally correct?!?!?

I have not tried downgrading or probably will never need to downgrade the WM but I thought the way Hard-SPL works that you can take any nbh and flash it to any version either upgrade or downgrade without having to do all those step extracting and rebuilding the nbh unless of course you only wanted to downgrade the OS but keep the radio and splashscreen intacted.

From my understanding that your bootloader will not be overwritten unless you select SSPL so you wouldn't need to remove the bootloader from the nbh package either.

If your having problem with cooked ROMs and need to downgrade but plan to flash other future cooked roms then I would just keep the Hard-SPL on it and downgrade using Hard-SPL settings so the bootloader doesn't get overwritten. and Hard-SPL will always be on your device for future flashings.

There no real reason to downgrade bootloader unless you need to send in for factory warrenty repairs.

[mrvanx]

Yer the reason i guide through the process of extracting the various elements is so that user can downgrade back to wM5 without losing thier upgraded Radio and SPL.....obviously if they wish to make it TOTALLY like the had it before (for instance if they wish to claim warranty!??) i do comment on downgrading the radio and SPL also.

But the guide does indeed describe downgrading to WM5, you get to keep an upgraded Radio and also HardSPL.

[mrvanx]

New guide added.......
....How to configure windows VISTA to work with RUU....oh yeah!!!

[tempena]

I noticed that there are different version of the WM6 ROM Upgrade in the User Guide page?

These are:

Pro Black Edition v2.0
XDA Live v0.20.x
LVSW (27/3/2007)
3DES.2

Are there notable differences among them?
Any pros/cons of one over the others?

Thanks in advance for the help.
-Tem

[mrvanx]

I noticed that there are different version of the WM6 ROM Upgrade.
Are there notable differences among them?
Any pros/cons of one over the others?

The best way to answer your question is to upgrade to ANY of the WM6 roms, try it out then try ALL the others. The best ROM depends on what you use.

[rvc]

MrVanx's upgrade guide indicates that the guide must be followed "exactly".

Upgrade guide v4.lvsw, in the section entitled "Upgrading to LVSW:", indicates
1. "If you have not installed HardSPLv5 then go back and install it"
it then directs
2. "select the Green Box".
followed by a dialog box which should state;
3. "The RUU will allow you to load ANY NBH image onto your Hermes since it will load the SSPL Bootloader for the flashing process."

Having loaded HardSPLv6 early on in the v4.lvsw process is one actually to downgrade to v5 to load the OS?
No green box was to be found.
The following message appeared in red in lue of item 3 above.

"Please be aware that this flasher is intended solely for SPL 1.11 AND YOU MUST HAVE 1.11 Hard-SPL installed in order to flash any unsigned files." in place of item 3 above.

Since this machine now has SPL 1.40.Olipro installed AND YOU MUST HAVE 1.11 Hard-SPL installed, combined with the other deviations from the user guide it seemed that this was not "exactly" a bad point to stop.
What gives?

[mrvanx]

....downgrade to v5 to load the OS?


Minor typo, fixed

and when i say to tick the box and select 1.11..............thats what you do..........on the next page i say to click next.

Having carried out the upgrade several hundred times i figured saying to click next would be fairly simple!?

Il change the page

[scioni]

ANOTHER guide LOL!
How to downgrade to WM5 from WM6.

Could some kind soul verify my instructions are totally correct?!?!?


Dear mrvanx,
your site day after day becomes always better :D
Thank you very much.
Regarding the downgrading procedure to WM5, I took the VODAFONE WM5 realese (from wiki) and I have these minor remarks:
1) It's "02_MainSplash.nb" and not "03_..."
2) It's "03_SubSplash.nb" and not "04_..."
3) It's "04_ExtROM.nb" and not "05_..."
4) All other instruction are perfect!

Enjoy to everybody!
Ciao,
Scioni

--------------
HTC TyTN
ROM: WM6 BLACK 2.0
Radio: 1.34.00.10

[falum]

Vista AS driver update worked a treat and upgrading radio and Hard spl through it. Many thanks.

[mrvanx]

Dear mrvanx,
your site day after day becomes always better :D
Thank you very much.
Regarding the downgrading procedure to WM5, I took the VODAFONE WM5 realese (from wiki) and I have these minor remarks:
1) It's "02_MainSplash.nb" and not "03_..."
2) It's "03_SubSplash.nb" and not "04_..."
3) It's "04_ExtROM.nb" and not "05_..."
4) All other instruction are perfect!

Enjoy to everybody!
Ciao,
Scioni

--------------
HTC TyTN
ROM: WM6 BLACK 2.0
Radio: 1.34.00.10

Yep it seems the prefix 0#_ before the various parts is different every time!??

im changing it now

[jasonchiu]

Mrvanx, do you think it will be appropriate to post the .CAB's which repair the glitchs in LVSW at the end of your upgrade guide? theres 7x pages to go throguh to find .CAB's right now.

thanks in advance.

[TwoPlus1]

Hi MrVanx,

Can definately say that your Vista guide works a treat! Glad to see you've achived all the goals you layed out on your home page and that the guides get better every day...

Could I request a guide for slitely more advanced users on unlocking and making best use of the extrom space, I would like eventually to cook my own ROM from a scratch WM6 OS but this is not something I feel ready for and I think would be rather dangerous to put on this site with your other guides, but if you ever wanted to PM me with a guide it would be greatfully received and put to good use:p

[mrvanx]

Hi MrVanx,

Can definately say that your Vista guide works a treat! Glad to see you've achived all the goals you layed out on your home page and that the guides get better every day...

Could I request a guide for slitely more advanced users on unlocking and making best use of the extrom space, I would like eventually to cook my own ROM from a scratch WM6 OS but this is not something I feel ready for and I think would be rather dangerous to put on this site with your other guides, but if you ever wanted to PM me with a guide it would be greatfully received and put to good use:p

Ive got a few things lined up in my head which i would like to add, one such idea is custom splash screens (not the SPL1.01MFG way). watch this space ;)

[TwoPlus1]

Sounds great if you need any help ie. testing, screen grabs... PM me.

[Murcielago]

Why is it still not a sticky thread ??

[mrvanx]

Guide update for new lvsw release.

[harlenm]

I have to say, I followed this guide for my first ever flash, and it was easy to understand, and made the process very painless. This is an awesome guide, great job and keep up the good work!

[Murcielago]

Sticky Please

[invictive]

This guide isn't stickied because the forum was becoming too crowded with so many stickies at the top.

If you look at the top there is a sticky called Windows Mobile 6 Thread links, which links to this page.

[Murcielago]

This guide isn't stickied because the forum was becoming too crowded with so many stickies at the top.

If you look at the top there is a sticky called Windows Mobile 6 Thread links, which links to this page.
OK but it's one of the best guides around here... it's a shame to have to go on another post to find it... according to me

[mrvanx]

Guide updated for LVSW (8-4-07) and Dutty's WM6 Premium.

[Bibto]

Guide updated for LVSW (8-4-07) and Dutty's WM6 Premium.

Thanks so much for the guides, and the hard work. I have tried 3 times to get the Next download HardSPLv6 from here, Each time I try to run the RUUWrapper.exe, I get an application error and it fails to run. Is the compressed archive file still good?

:confused:

Thanks!

Rick

[mrvanx]

Thanks so much for the guides, and the hard work. I have tried 3 times to get the Next download HardSPLv6 from here, Each time I try to run the RUUWrapper.exe, I get an application error and it fails to run. Is the compressed archive file still good?

:confused:

Thanks!

Rick

Make sure you have the .net framework up to date and installed (posting your error would help dude ;))

[Bibto]

Make sure you have the .net framework up to date and installed (posting your error would help dude ;))

This is not my first time doing this, but this is the first time one of the applications I have downloaded has failed. I may not post a lot, but I am no noobie.


"The application failed to initialize properly (0xc0000135). Click OK to terminate the application"

That is the EXACT error code.

[mrvanx]

This is not my first time doing this, but this is the first time one of the applications I have downloaded has failed. I may not post a lot, but I am no noobie.


"The application failed to initialize properly (0xc0000135). Click OK to terminate the application"

That is the EXACT error code.

Download .net framewrok again dude, if no help then use version 3.
(all linked to in the guide).

What were you running at the time of the error??

EDIT: Links ;)
.net 1.1 (http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=262d25e3-f589-4842-8157-034d1e7cf3a3&displaylang=en)
.net 2.0 (http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=0856EACB-4362-4B0D-8EDD-AAB15C5E04F5&displaylang=en)
.net 3.0 (http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=10CC340B-F857-4A14-83F5-25634C3BF043&displaylang=en)

[Bibto]

Download .net framewrok again dude, if no help then use version 3.
(all linked to in the guide).

What were you running at the time of the error??

EDIT: Links ;)
.net 1.1 (http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=262d25e3-f589-4842-8157-034d1e7cf3a3&displaylang=en)
.net 2.0 (http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=0856EACB-4362-4B0D-8EDD-AAB15C5E04F5&displaylang=en)
.net 3.0 (http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=10CC340B-F857-4A14-83F5-25634C3BF043&displaylang=en)


2.0 is my current version. I have no problems with any other flash tool. Is this only only compatible with 3.0? If I requires 3.0, then I will upgrade it, if is is supposed to work with 2.0, then there is a problem. Not flaming, just making an honest observation.

Rick

[hulk2005]

Program video call Windows Mobile 6 Premium?

[mrvanx]

2.0 is my current version. I have no problems with any other flash tool. Is this only only compatible with 3.0? If I requires 3.0, then I will upgrade it, if is is supposed to work with 2.0, then there is a problem. Not flaming, just making an honest observation.

Rick

The guys who develop CustomRUU are always up-to-date and it might need 3.0 now. The best thing you can do is install all three, 3.0 is a small file compared to the others.

observations are good dude no sweat ;)

[mrvanx]

Added Easy Custom Splashscreen guide, a bit of feedback would be good ;)

[Mark Crouch]

The "Easy Custom Splashscreen guide" looks just as good as the rest of your guides - I read all the relevant forum threads and all of your guides, then took the plunge and "went Black" on Saturday using them.....sweet as a nut!!!

I've taken a fancy to a couple of the artistic images in JJ's "RFA" post (Request for Artwork ;) ), so I'll give your guide a run through this evening.

Just one question....why does the device have to be "HERM200" - mine's a HERM100 - is it just a requirement of Dutty's utility??

Thanks for all the hard work mate - have a bit of a rest now before you gotta re-do the guides for Black 2.5 :D

Mark.

[mrvanx]

The "Easy Custom Splashscreen guide" looks just as good as the rest of your guides - I read all the relevant forum threads and all of your guides, then took the plunge and "went Black" on Saturday using them.....sweet as a nut!!!

I've taken a fancy to a couple of the artistic images in JJ's "RFA" post (Request for Artwork ;) ), so I'll give your guide a run through this evening.

Just one question....why does the device have to be "HERM200" - mine's a HERM100 - is it just a requirement of Dutty's utility??

Thanks for all the hard work mate - have a bit of a rest now before you gotta re-do the guides for Black 2.5 :D

Mark.
You can use 100 200 or 300 it doesnt matter. Just aslong as its a HERM model number

[sco0by]

I was about to upgrade from SPL 1.35 to 1.40, but when I try running the updater i get the attached screen, which differs from the one in the guide.

I downloaded HardSPLv6 from the link in the guide several time to make sure it wasnt a dodgy download but it extracts fine, I just dont get the screen shown in the guide.

I have .net 1.1, 2, and 3 installed, and its a T-Mobile MDAII currently running Black 1.2.

tia ;)

[trapper]

Do I have to go through the Vista time just once, or each time I wish to use a radio or reboot my PC?

[mrvanx]

I was about to upgrade from SPL 1.35 to 1.40, but when I try running the updater i get the attached screen, which differs from the one in the guide.

I downloaded HardSPLv6 from the link in the guide several time to make sure it wasnt a dodgy download but it extracts fine, I just dont get the screen shown in the guide.

I have .net 1.1, 2, and 3 installed, and its a T-Mobile MDAII currently running Black 1.2.

tia ;)

Dude that isnt different!?

Either way just follow what the guide says and you will be fine ;)

Do I have to go through the Vista time just once, or each time I wish to use a radio or reboot my PC?

Just the once dude ;) Ive had mixed reports but a majority of them are its fine and works no problems.

[Airgetlam]

I'm with Sco0by. And no, it is different.

You have no option to select any of the SPL version radio buttons. The only items that are available for interaction is the "Force using SPL" radio button, and the "Is it Hard-SPL?".

If you select "Is it Hard-SPL?" the "next" button doesn't activate. Only if you select "Force using SPL" does the next button become available.

Sorry to be a pain!

HERM200
1PL-1.00

HERM200
SPL-1.35.Olipro

[joej]

Great work MrVanx!

Great thread for all the n00bs there. Also for the non-n00bs who needs a refresher. This thread should be made a sticky.

[mrvanx]

The guide has now moved to a new host, if you post any links to it please use the new host address.

http://www.mrvanx.org/hermes_guide

[Mark Crouch]

@MrVanx - I went to try your Splashscreen guide last night, but got stuck fairly early on......it seems I have to register on the forum hosting Dutty's tool in order to download it - which is not something I really wanted to do :( Is it hosted anywhere else (like the xda-devs ftp server?) or could we ask Dutty to let it be hosted there??

Bit of a pedantic point, I know, but I really don't want to become a forum member of a site I'll never ever use, just so I can download an (unrelated) utility.

Suggestions on a postcard, please ;)

Mark.

[mrvanx]

Thegamebooks.com is the official download point dude, see this post (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=296311&highlight=duttys+nbh)

[KarhU]

I have a few comments to the splashscreens guide:

1) nb_image_converter needed comdlg32.ocx file to work, here (http://windowsxp.mvps.org/comdlg32.htm) is how to download and register this file if there is more unfortunate users.

2) running black 2.0 pro I decided to change both splashscreens with ones I created. Using your guide I ended up with first splash showing correctly and second splash showing my splash screen first and stock black windows splashscreen second - effectively increasing boot time by some five seconds by showing two succesive splashscreens.

Any comments on how to run only one subsplash at a time are welcome as I prefer to run slideshows AFTER the phone boots up :D

[Freeksta]

hey guys...

any1 know if terminal services is available in this new LSWM????

[Airgetlam]

Mrvanx,

Once again, thank you for your continued efforts. I suddenly realized that I'm trying to bug someone who is collating data about some issues with the software I was experiencing, rather than going directly to the person who wrote the software. Again, please accept my apologies.

However, I would like to draw your attention to your two web pages:

http://www.mrvanx.org/hermes_guide/lvsw/HardSPL.html

and

http://www.mrvanx.org/hermes_guide/HardSPL.html

I believe the problem that Sco0by and I were having was that we were looking at the lvsw version of that page, which didn't match what we were seeing on our phones. Now that I've found the other version, I'll go ahead and update.

Once again, thanks for your continued efforts for this community.

[mrvanx]

Mrvanx,

Once again, thank you for your continued efforts. I suddenly realized that I'm trying to bug someone who is collating data about some issues with the software I was experiencing, rather than going directly to the person who wrote the software. Again, please accept my apologies.

However, I would like to draw your attention to your two web pages:

http://www.mrvanx.org/hermes_guide/lvsw/HardSPL.html

and

http://www.mrvanx.org/hermes_guide/HardSPL.html

I believe the problem that Sco0by and I were having was that we were looking at the lvsw version of that page, which didn't match what we were seeing on our phones. Now that I've found the other version, I'll go ahead and update.

Once again, thanks for your continued efforts for this community.

cool cool. i need to re-do the images as the various ROMs have different things on them. But il modify that bit to use the same image (prolly easier)

[mrvanx]

Ive updated the images (slightly), Added a review of a GPS module i tried out (and bought).

Also ive updated the splashscreens guide a little bit.

[driz]

Mr Vanx, I just got a tytn in the mail, i've grown fond of wm6 from my wizard so i wanted it on here. Anyway, I followed the vista upgrade steps per your directions, worked fine, syncs, etc. I then tried the spl change. I get to the final step when I click update per your directions, it reboots the phone to bootloader mode, but ends up failing. It did change some settings, my original settings were:
ipl-1.01
spl-1.06

now they are,
ipl-sspl by Des
SPL-1.09.ds

They do not match your final graphic and i assume this is due to the program failing to update me, the exact error (more or less) is:

ERROR [260] Update error
cannot connect

[mrvanx]

MAJOR LEAGUE site update, using a php cms now. Enjoy.

Also updated radio guide for 1.40.30.00.

All screenshots should be up to date.

[gerald_s]

Great new layout and great guides, but I think I found a little mistake:
The Rom link in "Duttys Windows Mobile and Premium" leads to 3DES2.

[smads]

mrvanx,

Could I also thank you for the hard work you have put into your guide.

I think the main barrier to my upgrading was a distinct lack of 'step by step' guides. I know the wiki is there but there is nothing like a bit of hand holding for a noob like me.

They say a picture speaks a thousand words and your guide certainly gave me the confidence to try it myself.

I purposely kept from posing noob questions in what is a very 'dev' environment but now I am enjoying the benefits on WM6 (LVSW) on my tytn and the experience has been incredible. It really is like a new phone!

Cheers mate

Smads

- Next step is to upgrade me radio rom :)

[blurnard]

Hi guys,

i had followed the user guide in updating the driver for windows vista user. after updating the driver, my laptop doesnt see my phone when i connect it via usb. I can even install active sync 4.5.

Any idea whats wrong?

[mrvanx]

I presume you have re-enabled USB connectivity?

Just a quick heads-up people. If you post a question in this thread DO NOT PM ME WITH THE SAME QUESTION!!! This has happened twice in the same few days now and I WILL NOT answer your question if it happens.

Ive updated the guide for the cingular flavour of WM6 Black.

[blurnard]

Mr Evans,

I had flash ur version of wm6.

maybe i know how do i key in the user name and password for msn messenger? there seems to be not available option.

cheers

[silverfox0214]

ERROR [260] Update error
cannot connect

Or the wrong version of ActiveSync?

If Vista, read mrvanx's guide.
If XP, do the same. Then load ActiveSync 4.5 (again, follow the guide)

Oh, and maybe try reading the wiki as well?

[silverfox0214]

Hi guys,

i had followed the user guide in updating the driver for windows vista user. after updating the driver, my laptop doesnt see my phone when i connect it via usb. I can even install active sync 4.5.

Any idea whats wrong?

Try searching google for WMDC. This should lead you to a working Vista compatible version/next generation of ActiveSync. The WMDC will load ROMS, but you also need to read mrvanx's guide on flashing in Vista. This will require changing drivers to flash, then changing them back to sync. But hey, it's in the guide.

[syaah]

Vibrate Mode "MISSING", after upgrading this happened to my hermes....Any idea??? Help Needed.

Thanks in advance.

[mrvanx]

Vibrate Mode "MISSING", after upgrading this happened to my hermes....Any idea??? Help Needed.

Thanks in advance.

well you didnt give much information in your post!??!

Which ROM did you upgrade to??? You need to read the thread concerned on whichever ROM you used.

[SKassam]

I just noticed that because I have 1.30Olipro, I was able to upgrade using RUUwrapper.exe to 1.41 radio and just now CUSTEL's rom without needing to anything different under Vista Ultimate. i.e. I did not have to install 32 bit drivers to do the upgrade.

You may want to upgrade your excellent Guide.

Shamim

[mrvanx]

Added two new guides:

CUSTEL Windows Mobile VI Professional
WM6 Pro Black Cingular Edition 2.0.2

[zend]

Added two new guides:

CUSTEL Windows Mobile VI Professional
WM6 Pro Black Cingular Edition 2.0.2


Your guides are amazing. Much thanks.

[serrz]

I'm trying to do a WM6.0 upgrade, and am following the guide. I have successfully upgraded to HardSPL, but am having some problems with WM6.0

Where is says specify which SPL version you have, I click autodetect, and I get this message:

ActiveSync required - in order to use this feature, your PDA must be running windows mobile, you may need to confirm this check on your PDA also etc..

I tick OK, , and click Yes on on my PDA (for ItsUtils.dll), and get an error saying it couldnt query the device, and that there is an unknown version and I should pick SSPL.

http://members.iinet.net.au/~clhoo1/untitled.JPG

What should I do?

Thanks!

[mrvanx]

pick the third option (1.10,1.11,1.135,1.40) and tick the box (is it HardSPL?). Thats all you need to do.

If you update your versions of .net framework this may remedy the problems with autdetect.

[admajic]

Id love to use your guide but the site seems down.

[syaah]

mrvanx,

thks for ur prompt reply, I read this post:

"http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=299163&highlight=vibrate"

And guess what? Gave a light tap at the middle bottom of my hermes where the mic and reset hole are located and 'Whalla' it works.

Thks again bro.

[mrvanx]

Yer the site is down at the mo. Not sure whats happening i think the host (ecips) is doing an upgrade on it?!

[ecips]

Hi all,

The site is now back online.

I had to move the site from one host to another, and even 20 gig of data takes a while to copy across the network!

This was done Sunday afternoon/evening my time, because it involved sites for a lot of other people too, and most of them are in the same timezone as me.

Cheers,

ecips

[mrvanx]

Im currently sorting out my phone which died. :(

The guides in progress which should be finished tonight are:

HardSPL version 7 (2.10.olipro)
Radio version 1.41.00.10
CUSTEL 1.2
Dutty v2
Black 2.5
LVSW 22-04-07


An unprecedented ammount of stuff was released today and yesterday so it may take some time :D

[invictive]

Hey man, lemme know if you need a hand with anything. Also, I could setup a mirror of the site on my server, just incase there are ever any network problems.

I've been off the forums for the past week (busy with work and moving) and I just checked in last night. Damn there are a lot of new releases! I've already flashed my phone twice today and I've got another couple of ROM's to test still...

[mrvanx]

There may be a delay for the ROM guides, problem is using HardSPL v7 means the CustomRUU no longer recognises the SPL version, the latest version of CustomRUU is NOT packaged with the roms released today and yesterday.

Ive created the thread here in Hermes 6 forum to try and get the chefs to repackage using CustomRUU 4.3. This way HArdSPLv7 upgrades can go smoothly before the ROMs.

Already seen many posts about this problem.

[mrvanx]

Ive published the upgrade guide for HardSPL version 7 (2.10.olipro)

[duttythroy]

Ive published the upgrade guide for HardSPL version 7 (2.10.olipro)

I tried numerous of times trying to upgrade to hard spl 2.10 but it keep coming up with country error 260 my ipl was 1.00 but i run hard spl v7 using the new custom 4.3 and it upgraded by ipl to 1.04 but my spl stayed the same hard spl 1.40

can you help?

[mrvanx]

I tried numerous of times trying to upgrade to hard spl 2.10 but it keep coming up with country error 260 my ipl was 1.00 but i run hard spl v7 using the new custom 4.3 and it upgraded by ipl to 1.04 but my spl stayed the same hard spl 1.40

can you help?

You need to select 'Force SSPL' as your version 1.40.olipro doesnt let the SPL upgrade go ahead so to bypass this you have to use SSPL .

[duttythroy]

You need to select 'Force SSPL' as your version 1.40.olipro doesnt let the SPL upgrade go ahead so to bypass this you have to use SSPL .

I tried that a many of times also I'm on the brink of trying something new but just need confirmation

1. i extracted IPL n SPL from hard spl v7
2. extracted n converted black 2.5 rom to NB
3. USING KOCH I put together all those files into making a new rom including a new splash screens but I never done this before just an idea that came up.

If i pACKAGE the new NBH with the new custom ruu will this fix my problem.
cheers

[arluckett2002]

Mrvanx,
where is the padding.nb located when you try to do a custom splashcreen upgrade?

[mrvanx]

Mrvanx,
where is the padding.nb located when you try to do a custom splashcreen upgrade?

please DO NOT post a question then PM me. :mad:

[Mark Crouch]

Mrvanx,
where is the padding.nb located when you try to do a custom splashcreen upgrade?

It's in the guide dude....just before the first lot of images, it says "Now we need to download this archive and extract the files into the same folder as our images".

Granted, the link doesn't work (MrVanx musta missed that one during the site redesign last week ;) ), but if it did, it would point you to the attached file....and you'll find the 'padding.nb' file in there :cool:

Enjoy,

Mark.

[mrvanx]

It's in the guide dude....just before the first lot of images, it says "Now we need to download this archive and extract the files into the same folder as our images".

Granted, the link doesn't work (MrVanx musta missed that one during the site redesign last week ;) ), but if it did, it would point you to the attached file....and you'll find the 'padding.nb' file in there :cool:

Enjoy,

Mark.

For some reason the content management system the new site uses HATES a link to an ftp with a username and password. Ive linked to the attachment in your post instead. should work fine

[mrvanx]

Guys and Gals:

LVSW, CUSTEL and Jasjamming have repackaged thier ROMs, I shall be finishing the guides either tonight or tomorrow. For dutty v2 i will be repackaging the roms tomorrow.

Sorry for the delay people.

[jasonchiu]

Guys and Gals:

LVSW, CUSTEL and Jasjamming have repackaged thier ROMs, I shall be finishing the guides either tonight or tomorrow. For dutty v2 i will be repackaging the roms tomorrow.

Sorry for the delay people.

thanks mrvanx, will look forward to the guides and upgrading once again!

[mrvanx]

BIG ASS update to the guide has been finished.

All the latest ROMs are present

Black 2.5 (http://www.mrvanx.org/hermes_guide/black)
Dutty v2 (http://www.mrvanx.org/hermes_guide/dutty)
LVSW 230407 (http://www.mrvanx.org/hermes_guide/lvsw)
CUSTEL v1.2 (http://www.mrvanx.org/hermes_guide/custel)
Radio 1.41.00.10 (http://www.mrvanx.org/hermes_guide/Radio)
HardSPL v7 (2.10.olipro) (http://www.mrvanx.org/hermes_guide/hardspl)

[bartan]

Very deep thanxz to u for all simple step-by-step guide.
to help u in someway maybe you can add a note about .net fr2 problem on autodetecting ?


bartan

[jasonchiu]

hey mrvanx i cant extract the RAR for LVSW from your guild.

do you know whats wrong?

i can however extract problack 2.5 if i download it from your guide

thanks in advance

[shasta]

Guides for WM6 ROMs:

WM6 Pro Black Edition 2.5 (http://www.mrvanx.org/hermes_guide/black)
Duttys WM6 Premium v2 (http://www.mrvanx.org/hermes_guide/dutty)
WM6 LVSW Edition 23-4-2007 (http://www.mrvanx.org/hermes_guide/lvsw)
CUSTEL WM6 Pro 1.2 (http://www.mrvanx.org/hermes_guide/custel)
3DES.2 (http://www.mrvanx.org/hermes_guide/3des)


Applies to all WM Roms where "Allow non-certified applications" is not default.

If you add a non-certicated plugin to Today screen, your device will not boot, unless you first disable certificate checking using HTWeakC -> System -> Allow non-certified applications and click to tick it, then save and exit.

An example is today plugin is CityTime - this is non-certificated.

What happens is the pre-today splash screen comes up and the prompt to permit this plugin to load is hidden behind it but holding up boot.
Only fix I found is hard reset & re-enter settings, reload programs...

[TriAxisFL]

Thanks for the guide, I was afraid to upgrade because I was running Vista. I successfully upgraded the bootloader to V7 2.10, the radio to 1.41, and the ROM to Cingular Black 2.5.

My only issue was after the upgrade I couldn't sync with Vista. Vista never could find a driver for my device. I couldn't find an answer in your guide or in the thread.
I tried a few different things that didn't work. I eventually tried updating the driver and searching the entire C:/Windows folder including subfolders. This found a driver that worked and I was able to sync again. My only concern is that my 8525 now shows up in Device Manager as Hermes Black 2.5 instead of the old HTC USB Device, and it also shows up in the Portable Devices section instead of the old Windows Mobile Devices (err something)
Is this anything I should be concerned about? Should I install a different driver? Can I go back to the old pre-yourguide driver?

[mrvanx]

New guides added:

WM5 Safe Flashing Guide (http://www.mrvanx.org/hermes_guide/wm5)
WM5 Downgrade Guide v2 (http://www.mrvanx.org/hermes_guide/Downgrade)
CUSTEL WM6 Professional v1.3 (http://www.mrvanx.org/hermes_guide/custel)


enjoy!

[arnoutboer]

Hey MrVanX
Good work with those guides.
I just am a bit dissapointed the old 1.40 radio upgrade guide disappeared.
This is clearly the most stable radio at this moment.

Keep up the good work!

Arnie

[mrvanx]

Hey MrVanX
Good work with those guides.
I just am a bit dissapointed the old 1.40 radio upgrade guide disappeared.
This is clearly the most stable radio at this moment.

Keep up the good work!

Arnie

Im currently in the process of repackaging all the radios available on the wiki, they will all be able to detect all SPL versions (including the new HardSPL).

[Ah_Yu]

Very good + very clear. It is very useful for those like me (new hand):D .

[mrvanx]

Guide update:

Added guide for WM6 3DES.3 (http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=43&Itemid=26)

[hsanghavi]

I have a JasJam and not HTC TyTn which has few better softwares as against the Imate JasJam.

PLease Please Please can you get me these two software links too.
1.) HTC X Button
2.) HTC Tweak UI

I want to use my Original Rom and use these two softwares as addon for the features.

THANKS IN ADVANCE.

[the0ne]

nice work buddy , helped me through my first upgrade... cheerz

[mrvanx]

I have a JasJam and not HTC TyTn which has few better softwares as against the Imate JasJam.

PLease Please Please can you get me these two software links too.
1.) HTC X Button
2.) HTC Tweak UI

I want to use my Original Rom and use these two softwares as addon for the features.

THANKS IN ADVANCE.

Search the forum, you will easily find them.

DO NOT CROSS POST THE SAME QUESTION IN EVERY THREAD!

[mrvanx]

nice work buddy , helped me through my first upgrade... cheerz

No problem dude ;)

[jcespi2005]

ey man.... loves your guides....

BTW, i like to traslate the guides to spanish, cause the spanish Hermes community is very big and is growing up very rapid.

Can you host the traslated spanish site?

If you can't, i'll search for a host.

Thanks again for your hard work :)

[dcoelho]

mrvanx: Congratulations for your great work.This guide is a bless of gods for all of us more and less experients in teses things.
You must review yor calendar:) You marked last up as of 31-04 (LOL)

[mrvanx]

mrvanx: Congratulations for your great work.This guide is a bless of gods for all of us more and less experients in teses things.
You must review yor calendar:) You marked last up as of 31-04 (LOL)

lol....shit!

Date fixed ;)

[TriAxisFL]

Thanks for the guide, I was afraid to upgrade because I was running Vista. I successfully upgraded the bootloader to V7 2.10, the radio to 1.41, and the ROM to Cingular Black 2.5.

My only issue was after the upgrade I couldn't sync with Vista. Vista never could find a driver for my device. I couldn't find an answer in your guide or in the thread.
I tried a few different things that didn't work. I eventually tried updating the driver and searching the entire C:/Windows folder including subfolders. This found a driver that worked and I was able to sync again. My only concern is that my 8525 now shows up in Device Manager as Hermes Black 2.5 instead of the old HTC USB Device, and it also shows up in the Portable Devices section instead of the old Windows Mobile Devices (err something)
Is this anything I should be concerned about? Should I install a different driver? Can I go back to the old pre-yourguide driver?

Is there anywhere I can download the original HTC drivers?

[mrvanx]

Guide update for LVSW (050507)

Find it Here (http://www.mrvanx.org/hermes_guide/lvsw)

[mrvanx]

Guide update for Black 3.0

WM6 Pro Black 3.0 (http://www.mrvanx.org/hermes_guide/black)

[jaredlappa]

I am having issues with Vista... The driver won't digitally sign and now in the Device Manager it says... Windows cannot load the device driver for this hardware. The driver may be corrupted or missing. (Code 39)
I followed all directions and installed the drivers from the Hermes Guide. http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=23&Itemid=27
I used the wceusbshx64.inf since I have Windows Vista Ultimate x64. Any ideas?

[racerx_]

mrvanx-

would you be interested in adapting your guides so there were upgrade guides for trinity (very minor differences, really)? I pm'd you but you probably get all kinds of crazy PM's so thought i'd post here. I could help get the info, screenshots, etc, if you want.

if you're too busy, then alternatively would you be open to someone adapting your guide so we could have something in the Trinity forum? basically, a LOT of noob questions floating around, and this i think would help stem the tide. :D

[mrvanx]

Guys and gals im gonna need a bit of real life time over the next 2-3 weeks for my studies/exams......but the guide will be kept up to date following this small break.

A trinity guide is a good idea i will discuss that when i get back ok.

Thanks people. ;)

[weinson]

Guys and gals im gonna need a bit of real life time over the next 2-3 weeks for my studies/exams......but the guide will be kept up to date following this small break.

A trinity guide is a good idea i will discuss that when i get back ok.

Thanks people. ;)

Good luck with exams and all that ... see you on the return ... and thanks for all your hard work.

[The Bishop]

I am running Vista Ultimate 64bit as well, and I cannot even get the Hard-SPL-v7 installed. I have the sync working, but indeed when I try to install the SPL update it asks if I want to run the program on the 8525 and goes to the tri-color screen but then the program fails on my PC.

[hardcore]

@MrVanx

Great job on the guides.

One suggestion: In all your WM6 upgrade guides you suggest using Radio rom 1.41 by default.

Judging by the feedback in this forum, radio 1.41 is known to have problems. Even radio 1.40 has problems (unstable data connections for me). Seems the 1.40 and 1.41 radios are tuned for US networks.

Radio rom 1.38 seems to be much better for the rest of the world. Why not update your guides to make a note of this (i.e. you may face radio problems with 1.41 and 1.40, so use 1.38 instead). I'm guessing many people will immediately upgrade to WM6 and radio 1.41, then start experiencing radio problems and dont know whether to pinpoint the cause to the new WM6 rom or the radio.

Just something you might want to consider. Keep up the good work!

EDIT: Started finding unstable data connection problems with radio 1.40, reverted to radio 1.38.

[The Bishop]

I am running Vista Ultimate 64bit as well, and I cannot even get the Hard-SPL-v7 installed. I have the sync working, but indeed when I try to install the SPL update it asks if I want to run the program on the 8525 and goes to the tri-color screen but then the program fails on my PC.

To quote myself, I ended up using a 32bit XP box and updated it just fine. :) Evil EVIL Vista!! :)

[LUPEN-3]

what about the new tytns rom ita?? i need a guide please! :) thx

ps can I downgrade my tytn to the original rom? i want to send my cell to the assistence... my front cam is probably crashed... and i would say if the warranty is valid if i have upgrade radio (to 1.41.xxx) and spl (to 2.10olipro). can I return of the original status?

sorry for my english...

[mrvanx]

VERY quick guide update.


WM6 Elf Edition (http://www.mrvanx.org/hermes_guide/elf)
WM6 LVSW (19-05-07) (http://www.mrvanx.org/hermes_guide/lvsw)
CUSTEL WM6 Pro 2.5 (http://www.mrvanx.org/hermes_guide/custel)
WM6 3DES.3.5 (http://www.mrvanx.org/hermes_guide/3des)


I WILL be away for another week or two while i finish my studies, any questions post them in the relevant threads please. ;)

[csl1010]

The server at www.mrvanx.org is taking too long to respond. :/?

[ecips]

Patience young Jedi.

Sometimes server maintenance there must be.

[ecips]

For those that might be interested:


http://dev.spice.net.au/stats.html

[gibster]

Just wondering which version i should go for?

Windows Mobile 6 LVSW Elf Edition
Windows Mobile 6 3DES.3.5
CUSTEL Windows Mobile VI Professional 2.5
Windows Mobile 6 LVSW (19-05-07)
Windows Mobile 6 Pro Black Edition 3.0.1
Dutty's Windows Mobile 6 Premium v2

[jcespi2005]

Hi, MrVanx.

Take a llok at this post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=308947

related to HardSPLv7 upgrade in Vista...

Thanks.

Regards.

[gibster]

well, nobody replied so i went for the 3DES.3.5 version. went super smooth, thanks to the guide! you rock man!

lets just home it's fixed all my issues. i upgraded the radio and my 3g had improved, but only just upgraded the os.

i'll let you guys know how it's going, but so far i'm loving it!!

oooh!! more stuff to play with!!!! :) :) :) :)

EDIT:

Not loving it that much at all!!!! Doesn't connect to the net via 3g/wap!!!!! HELP!!!!!!!!!!!

[norwstman30]

Just out of curiosity, what is the difference between all these versions?


Windows Mobile 6 LVSW Elf Edition
Windows Mobile 6 3DES.3.5
CUSTEL Windows Mobile VI Professional 2.5
Windows Mobile 6 LVSW (19-05-07)
Windows Mobile 6 Pro Black Edition 3.0.1
Dutty's Windows Mobile 6 Premium v2[/QUOTE]

[gibster]

Just out of curiosity, what is the difference between all these versions?

Exactly what i wanted to know!!!

[Ogier]

I can't speak for the "Chefs" that build ROMs and I've only used the LVSW (19-5-07) version so far, but as a noob who's read a few hundred threads in the past week, here's my take.

It looks like they are built from a vanilla MS release of WM6 (a.k.a. CE 5.2?).
After that the differences are in the choice of software components & driver versions that have been packaged in, then the audio/graphical customisations to make them look nice & individual - or perhaps in the Black line of ROMs almost like a series of a product.

There's a thread running now which lists the names & versions of the software in the LVSW ROM + one other as a comparison. That would give you a good idea of what goes into a ROM.

Cheers, Oggy.

[gibster]

Thanks for that

Just wondering which one has worked the best for most people.

[Alkhal]

Thanks for that

Just wondering which one has worked the best for most people.

You and me both!

[dragon20]

hay mrvanx

Followed your guide to upgrade my SPL to 2.10.olipro

on my brand new dopod 838 pro

i have ran into a quick problem, sorry iam a noob first time flasher :)

Iam trying to upgrade my radio rom,

When i downloaded your file (HERM_Radio_Only_1.41.00.10_CustomRUU)

I ran it and pressed the autodetect button but it comes up saying error! Unknown version you should pick SSPL

do you have any advice for this? i dont want to pick anything else as id prefer to follow your guide.

Thanks a lot

Nick

[PeeT_Tytn]

hay mrvanx

Followed your guide to upgrade my SPL to 2.10.olipro

on my brand new dopod 838 pro

i have ran into a quick problem, sorry iam a noob first time flasher :)

Iam trying to upgrade my radio rom,

When i downloaded your file (HERM_Radio_Only_1.41.00.10_CustomRUU)

I ran it and pressed the autodetect button but it comes up saying error! Unknown version you should pick SSPL

do you have any advice for this? i dont want to pick anything else as id prefer to follow your guide.

Thanks a lot

Nick

Ohh
I have the same problem.
Any advice?

[crazyC]

I can't speak for the "Chefs" that build ROMs and I've only used the LVSW (19-5-07) version so far, but as a noob who's read a few hundred threads in the past week, here's my take.

It looks like they are built from a vanilla MS release of WM6 (a.k.a. CE 5.2?).
After that the differences are in the choice of software components & driver versions that have been packaged in, then the audio/graphical customisations to make them look nice & individual - or perhaps in the Black line of ROMs almost like a series of a product.

There's a thread running now which lists the names & versions of the software in the LVSW ROM + one other as a comparison. That would give you a good idea of what goes into a ROM.

Cheers, Oggy.


My understanding is that some are cooked from the windows version for the Hermes that has been sent to the carriers (Orange etc) for customization and distribution. Others have been cooked from a combination of roms for devices and hence may contain updated/different components, but it appears may also contain the occassional glitch that needs ironing out.

Others are leaked versions used by Microsoft development staff and hence are more advanced potentially than the released versions, but should be considered more beta versions, as they are in development still....
I believe Black is based on the version sent to carriers for the Hermes (with maybe the odd tweak from elsewhere), not qualifed to talk about the others.
See the thread re the fake kernels....

[rickyjune]

Dear mrvanx

used your fantastic guide to flash my splash screen worked a treat first time:eek:

anyho was wondering if there is a guide for dial pads:cool:

[mrvanx]

Im back everyone!!

June Guide Update:


Faria's Super Clean WM6 V1 (http://www.mrvanx.org/hermes_guide/faria)
Schap's WM6 Pro (multilingual) (http://www.mrvanx.org/hermes_guide/schap)
WM6 Elf Edition V2.1 (http://www.mrvanx.org/hermes_guide/elf)
WM6 Black Dymond (http://www.mrvanx.org/hermes_guide/black)


Now onto that 1k post count ;)

[vp3G]

Curious as to why Elf gets a guide while the other LVSW variants (Sleuth, vp3G) don't. :( Personally, I think the LVSW guide is sufficient for all LVSW-based ROMs, but I'm sure the nuances between the flavors elude some of the newer folks. :)

[mrvanx]

I made the guides based on what is requested......if you want i can make a vp3g guide?

[vp3G]

Oh, OK... didn't realize it was by request. No, I don't believe vp3G (or Sleuth or Elf, for that matter) deserves anything more than perhaps a mention within the LVSW guide as being a variant of the original.

IMHO, us "second-tier" chefs who recook/repackage a "first-tier" chef's product need to be careful that giving our own versions prominence at XDA doesn't discourage the original chef from releasing new ROMs. I, for one, don't possess the resources to deliver new OS builds, for instance.

[SkOrPn]

@MrVanx, yeah I wouldnt mind a vp3G guide as well since it is Cingular optimized and Im willing to bet there are more Cingular/AT&T 8525 users out there.

Thx MrVanx for the great guides, your making my new found hobby easier to learn.

@vp3G, you going to update your ROM thread with the AT&T Optimized name since it is no longer called Cingular? Just curious...

Oh almost forgot, first post and I want to say thanks for being here xda-developers. I have had this phone (Cingular 8525 branded, HERM100) now for about a week and Im loving it. Currently using the official HTC AT&T 8525 rom with Radio 1.41.00.10 and HardSPLv7 (2.10 Olipro) and IPL 1.04. Once I get comfortable with using WM5 AKU 3.5, you can be rest assured Im upgrading to a WM6 rom. Just got to figure out which ones to try first and what software/features I want and dont want... lol

Edit. woa just realized this post is exactly 12hrs to the dot from last post, how weird... haha

[edwinyuen]

MrVanx,

I've used your Vista flashing guide successfully in the past. I have a new machine today and a new install of Vista (it happens to be x64). When I went to the first step of your instructions, putting my Hermes into the BL and plugging it in, I happen to be running Windows Update and there was an updated HTC USB Sync driver dated 5/24/07. I downloaded that driver and ran a RUU and it flashed without issue. Can this possibly be an easier Vista solution or does RUU flashing work without your instructions (I've tried it once before on my old machine and it didn't work unless I used your drivers).

[mrvanx]

MrVanx,

I've used your Vista flashing guide successfully in the past. I have a new machine today and a new install of Vista (it happens to be x64). When I went to the first step of your instructions, putting my Hermes into the BL and plugging it in, I happen to be running Windows Update and there was an updated HTC USB Sync driver dated 5/24/07. I downloaded that driver and ran a RUU and it flashed without issue. Can this possibly be an easier Vista solution or does RUU flashing work without your instructions (I've tried it once before on my old machine and it didn't work unless I used your drivers).

Yes afaik there is an updated driver available.....gimme a PM with the driver versions etc...

[racerx_]

mrvanx-

you still interested in getting some trinity guides up?

[mrvanx]

People Im in need of an opinion,

could you take the time to look at the poll here: http://htc-devs.com/forum/index.php?topic=144.0 ?

[Don.]

@ MVanx: Thanks for all the work you've put into your guides. Its much appreciated.
Im currently reading through the Black Dymond guide...


Would it be possible for you to add a Glossary section as well?
It would be great if us noobs had a reference for the terms used.

Thanks again.