lvsw or mobile black?? [Archive]

jasjamming

25-03-2007, 07:02 PM

hi i am new here currently using the first wm6.0 time to upgrade again..but which rom is betteR??? i am so confused..

my response will be subjective of course,

but its best u try both for a day and make a decision based on your requirements.

mfabre

25-03-2007, 07:09 PM

hi i am new here currently using the first wm6.0 time to upgrade again..but which rom is betteR??? i am so confused..

As new as I am on the board, trust me on this... go and read enough of the threads and the wiki to answer the question by yourself. It will save you a lot of grievances in the long run ;)

PS: IMHO, the answer really depends on each case... it hinges on how you use your device and what you are looking for... every chef knows what they are doing and why :rolleyes:

taiseer999

25-03-2007, 07:27 PM

I am really sure each has a different flavour, BUT a none baise answer is needed I have been flushing my Herms twice a week now :( and I am really thankfull for all of you guys.

MrDSL

25-03-2007, 11:07 PM

I would have to go with Black v1.2 and then XDA-Live v0.20 at a close second. What really puts black over the top for me is it just seems much snappier then all the rest.

ach2

25-03-2007, 11:12 PM

hi i am new here currently using the first wm6.0 time to upgrade again..but which rom is betteR??? i am so confused..

Depends on what you want and how you use the phone...

I've tried both recent releases of LVSW and Black 1.2. Both with radio 1.38.00.10. My carriers are both UK based (Vodafone and O2). I've tried these combinations in UK (South) and USA (North Carolina).

I've had no issues at all with either (except Black loads like a racing snake and LVSW loads like a pig - time wise).

I get good phone, GPRS (H , E, U etc), WIFI and email (not push because I don't use it).

I've settled on LVSW for now. The only reason is because with cLaunch some of my small icons don't show up too well against the black background.

Which is best is subjective - try them and discover...

chymmylt

25-03-2007, 11:17 PM

Black loads like a racing snake and LVSW loads like a pig - time wise

I'm guessin that must mean that black is faster loading? Just a little confused because I've seen both animals move pretty darned quick but since the snake is racing and the pig doesn't seem to be doing anything :D

shogunmark

25-03-2007, 11:46 PM

once you go black you never go back... seriously though, i cant answer this very well, i have only played with them and havent used them on my main phone yet...

IronManDS

26-03-2007, 12:39 AM

For me, LVSW is the only choice, as the newest version of black and spb Pocket Plus do not play well together. As Pocket Plus offers more for me than black, black had to go and LVSW and pocket plus play great together.

Don't get me wrong, I really liked black - as well as the other WM6 ROMS. However, I've tried them all out and the 3/20/07 version of LVSW has given the most enjoyment and caused the least grief for me.

Your mileage may vary.

J

ach2

26-03-2007, 12:43 AM

I'm guessin that must mean that black is faster loading? Just a little confused because I've seen both animals move pretty darned quick but since the snake is racing and the pig doesn't seem to be doing anything :D

Yep, you're right (forgot you guy's over the pond have fast pigs - met a few forgot most:D :D ).

I'll try this in correct English... LVSW took a long time to flash (much more than 25 minutes). Black took less than 5 minutes. In fact, Black was so quick to flash it became easier to re-flash (thus clearing all my setup) than uninstalling and re-installing apps when I first played with it.

chymmylt

26-03-2007, 01:15 AM

Yep, you're right (forgot you guy's over the pond have fast pigs - met a few forgot most:D :D ).

I'll try this in correct English... LVSW took a long time to flash (much more than 25 minutes). Black took less than 5 minutes. In fact, Black was so quick to flash it became easier to re-flash (thus clearing all my setup) than uninstalling and re-installing apps when I first played with it.

I understand now - damned us americans - I don't think we technically speak english over here any more - they should start calling this bastard child american and stop insulting the English language :) hahahhaa

I also understand you were talking about flashing - I thought you were talking about booting. Yes - Black does install quicker and the reason for that is it has no radio included. LVSW does. If you strip out the radio, it will flash just as quicklying. I am pretty sure that in the new version released today (which is a newer version of WM6 BTW) somebody stripped out the radio and posted a link somewhere in the comment so that should flash in just a few minutes :)

ach2

26-03-2007, 01:41 AM

I understand now - damned us americans - I don't think we technically speak english over here any more - they should start calling this bastard child american and stop insulting the English language :) hahahhaa

I also understand you were talking about flashing - I thought you were talking about booting. Yes - Black does install quicker and the reason for that is it has no radio included. LVSW does. If you strip out the radio, it will flash just as quicklying. I am pretty sure that in the new version released today (which is a newer version of WM6 BTW) somebody stripped out the radio and posted a link somewhere in the comment so that should flash in just a few minutes :)

Cheers, I understand that LVSW has radio and black doesn't but LSVW seemed so SLOOOW after flashing Black.

PS, no offence meant to Americans - spent 3 years living in the US of Angleterre:D

chymmylt

26-03-2007, 01:55 AM

Cheers, I understand that LVSW has radio and black doesn't but LSVW seemed so SLOOOW after flashing Black.

PS, no offence meant to Americans - spent 3 years living in the US of Angleterre:D

None taken :)

If you're doing flashing soon (and assuming this is still the current version) here's the link to the stripped down LSVW: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1187346&postcount=35

It should install in about 5 minutes as opposed to the 20ish minutes of the official version - when you strip out the radio (and to a lesser degree ext rom) it will install much quicker. :)

walshieau

26-03-2007, 02:18 AM

black for sure :D:D

ach2

26-03-2007, 03:06 AM

black for sure :D:D

Pigs or WM6? :eek:

Freeksta

26-03-2007, 01:26 PM

will switching between these diff roms fry my PDA?

ach2

26-03-2007, 01:38 PM

will switching between these diff roms fry my PDA?

They shouldn't fry your PDA, but there are plenty of people out there who may disagree. Do a lot of reading and be sure to use Olipro's Hard-SPL because if you do get a problem this will help make it recoverable.

A couple of useful links:

The WIKI (everything begins here): http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Hermes

Upgrade for beginners (excellent): http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_UpgradeForBeginners

If you have problems: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=286755

lvsw

26-03-2007, 01:49 PM

What for to argue?
The person which has made "BlackROM", for a basis takes mine RomUpdate

IronManDS

26-03-2007, 02:07 PM

True, true.

J

Martinhdk

26-03-2007, 02:10 PM

I am on XDA Live 0.20, and must say that I am very satisfied.. A new version will appear around 1. april. BUT. New or updated roms a being developed almost weekly, so what is better one week might not be the next - or what is better for one is not for you...

If you are new as me - just take one, and get familiar with that, because all versions have pros and contras - bugs and issues. Look at the programs integrated - find one, or if speed is essential - find another without ;-).

I dont think a final answer can be given - but take your time to read the thread regarding the one you are thinking of....

And for me; I am waiting for the XDA live 0.30...

lpsi2000

26-03-2007, 03:14 PM

I would say do a lot of reading first, then take the plunge and see which one you like best. I am tired of flashing but I can't stop flashing :D

Halldor

26-03-2007, 05:10 PM

I would say do a lot of reading first, then take the plunge and see which one you like best. I am tired of flashing but I can't stop flashing :D

I have tried both and I am using LVSW since it has a newer build.

On the FLASHING issue:eek: It certainly does become addictive! I have flashed 4 different ROMS and 3 different Radio ROMS in 8 days!. Call me FLASH GORDON!!

jasjamming

26-03-2007, 05:26 PM

I have tried both and I am using LVSW since it has a newer build.

On the FLASHING issue:eek: It certainly does become addictive! I have flashed 4 different ROMS and 3 different Radio ROMS in 8 days!. Call me FLASH GORDON!!

minor update: Black 1.3 will be coming soon, newest build of all + newer AKU, FULL Release (not to public), not beta, not RTM/RTO,

patience is a virtue.

verge

26-03-2007, 05:54 PM

minor update: Black 1.3 will be coming soon, newest build of all + newer AKU, FULL Release (not to public), not beta, not RTM/RTO,

patience is a virtue.
Not to add pressure to your already busy schedule but how soon? If I send you a beer will that help the schedule? :-)

jasjamming

26-03-2007, 05:55 PM

Not to add pressure to your already busy schedule but how soon? If I send you a beer will that help the schedule? :-)

who about a keg of beer and some fine texan women!

verge

26-03-2007, 06:03 PM

who about a keg of beer and some fine texan women!
Well, I sent several beers but if you want some of our very fine Texas women, I am afraid you will have to come visit. I'll take you to some honky tonks and get some of them to teach you to two step, three step or shuffle around the dance floor to some great country tunes.

jasjamming

26-03-2007, 06:14 PM

Well, I sent several beers but if you want some of our very fine Texas women, I am afraid you will have to come visit. I'll take you to some honky tonks and get some of them to teach you to two step, three step or shuffle around the dance floor to some great country tunes.

might have to take u up on that offer :)

jasjamming

26-03-2007, 06:15 PM

finch

26-03-2007, 07:27 PM

I have tried both and I am going back to Lvsw. The black is nice but I find it is slower and I have many hanging problems. The phone rings and I have to select answer 5 times before it does. Sometimes I can, the phone over all is slower are seems to hang all the time. The build is great and I wish I could do it, still learning but on my tytn the lvsw was better.

I would like to thank everyone for there efforts.

porkchop83

26-03-2007, 07:40 PM

on the lvsw how do i remove the icons on the bottom bar?? the sim mange,r file explorer and screen orientation??

MrDSL

26-03-2007, 08:29 PM

minor update: Black 1.3 will be coming soon, newest build of all + newer AKU, FULL Release (not to public), not beta, not RTM/RTO,

patience is a virtue.

/me starts to break dance..

agovinoveritas

26-03-2007, 09:04 PM

Depends on what you want and how you use the phone...

I've tried both recent releases of LVSW and Black 1.2. Both with radio 1.38.00.10. My carriers are both UK based (Vodafone and O2). I've tried these combinations in UK (South) and USA (North Carolina).

I've had no issues at all with either (except Black loads like a racing snake and LVSW loads like a pig - time wise).

I get good phone, GPRS (H , E, U etc), WIFI and email (not push because I don't use it).

I've settled on LVSW for now. The only reason is because with cLaunch some of my small icons don't show up too well against the black background.

Which is best is subjective - try them and discover...

You could just change themes, right? ;)

LazPL

26-03-2007, 11:51 PM

I used to fret for a looong time before flashing my first ROM. I've done XDA, LVSW's and am now testing Black 1.2.
Don't worry. Get any of them, or perhaps now if you haven't tried any other, you could start with LVSW's build of today, which has the latest radio as well. Black & XDA do not come with radio ROMs. When I first got my hermes, it had a really, really bad radio ROM. It was certainly worth updating that.
All of the OS ROMs are fast. It's hard to say which one is the faster. All the developers spend a lot of time in making them good. Try them all, but perhaps begin with today's LVSW version, so you get the Hard SPL and Radio update. Then you can easily change around between the others.
Do like me- stop worrying, start flashing!
Laz