Unopened SMS lost on reset

[grayme]

First off, I haven't found this on a search ;)

Surely I and my wife cannot be the only people to suffer the loss of text messages received but not opened if the battery goes flat?

To confirm, we get an SMS (or an email) and without opening it reset the machine (say if it locks up) or the battery goes flat and on charging it resets automatically, when reloaded the SMS (or email has gone).

Emails are fine, still on the server so downloadable again; SMS gone forever! :eek:

Known 'feature', problem solved years ago or I am a numpty? :D

[renhui]

I have encountered the same problem several times with different ROMs(WM5, WM6). Can this get fixed?

[grayme]

I have encountered the same problem several times with different ROMs(WM5, WM6). Can this get fixed?

I don't think this is a ROM issue, more a device bug.

That said, anything that can force the device to save all messages received, not just those that have been read would be most welcome!

[CWKJ]

I think it has been explained somewhere by someone and also maybe me.

Basically, to ensure that your messages (read or unread) is saved, at least press the power button (if the set is not hang) to bring it to power off, afterwhich you can do anything including reset. :D

If already hang after received message before you can press power button, too bad, it will never come back.

It is not really a bug, there is a technical explaination behind this, but too long to explain.

[mbirth]

The technical explanation is simply: "Caching!".

The system caches data in RAM and writes it down to Flash every once in a while - or upon power off.

So if you reset while the data (i.e. your unread SMS in this case) is still in RAM, it will be lost.

Cheers,
-mARKUS

[grayme]

The technical explanation is simply: "Caching!".

The system caches data in RAM and writes it down to Flash every once in a while - or upon power off.

So if you reset while the data (i.e. your unread SMS in this case) is still in RAM, it will be lost.

Cheers,
-mARKUS

So, is there a way to force the device to write down to flash whenever it receives a message?

Qmail used to save emails when they were received (I used it before I overcame the issues from using pop Gmail), but I would rather force messaging to save messages than use a third party message reader.

[CWKJ]

The technical explanation is simply: "Caching!".

The system caches data in RAM and writes it down to Flash every once in a while - or upon power off.

So if you reset while the data (i.e. your unread SMS in this case) is still in RAM, it will be lost.

Cheers,
-mARKUS
Right on ! ! !

Writing to Flash is part of the Pesistent Memory concept in WM5, in which when it is restore upon reset from the Flash and not the RAM (which is cleared upon reset). While WM2003SE is not the case.

[FOSA]

Very simple! Just wait for about 10 sec upon receiving your SMS before resetting

[snipes mcgee]

What seems to have worked for me when it happens, is taking the battery out instead of soft resetting. The message is saved when I reinsert the battery and power up.

Not sure how safe that is though...

[grayme]

Very simple! Just wait for about 10 sec upon receiving your SMS before resetting

Quite! (Well actually not at all)

Just that doesn't work if you leave your XDA and the battery goes flat before you read it or the whole thing locks up and you need to reset....

What seems to have worked for me when it happens, is taking the battery out instead of soft resetting. The message is saved when I reinsert the battery and power up.

Not sure how safe that is though...

Worth a try I suppose, thanks.