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PianoSam
30th March 2007, 01:27 PM
Hi,
I have been on this site for about a week now. I was drawn here by the desire to take my Imate JamIn up to WM6.

So I pulled from the web the file:
RUU_Prophet_220734_2207114_024721_NVID_QTEK and hurled it onto my PDA

It went from Imate to QTEK but still worked pretty well. So I then went and loaded Upgrade Happy from a site in Roumania.

This loaded but was distinctly unimpressive and unstable so I managed to downgrade to the WM5 file above again.

Then I tried Smart1's v2 WM6 file and this went on OK. However, I have experienced a few issues with the battery and other things like Timewizard, etc.

So I have gone back to the NVID_QTEK WM5 file again.

BUT I would really like to put back on my Imate ROM which I have stored away. Sadly, whenever I try and load the ROM it states that the version is lower and I can only do an UPGRADE ( I get a 286 error).

I have searched here and Google and think that I can Un CID my phone (not actually sure what this does mind). I have read posts suggesting that once done I can load any version of any Prophet ROM on my PDA.

I went off and ended up on PDAMobiz and pulled down a file called:
PDAMobiz.com_ProphetAKU2_unlockCID.rar

But this site is incredibly slow and the file is corrupt when I finally get it down.

Can anyone explain to me whether it is possible to get to reload my earlier ROM version Imate ROM? If it is can anyone explain what I need to do and perhaps put up a link to an area where I can pull the tools down.

This website has a great reputation for helping each other out and I am sure that my ignorance will be forgiven,

Kind Regards,
Sam.

flykthewiz
30th March 2007, 01:35 PM
Hi

This is because you have upgraded your ipl/spl and these can't be downloaded.

But don't worry it's not a problem :)

if you have the original rom you should have a .nbf file?

You can use typho5.exe -x xxx.nbf (whatever it is called) this will extract the individual elements (ipl/spl/os/extrom/radio/splash screens) as .nb files.

Then use nb2nbf to build a new nbf file without spl/ipl parts. copy this file back to your backup folder (rename the original one first) and install again

Good Luck

PianoSam
30th March 2007, 01:48 PM
FlykThewiz,
Many thanks for your help.

I have the file:JAMin_WWE_213923_2139123_022021_shi.exe
Do you know how I get the .NBF out of it?

Also,
You couldn't point me to the tools you mention could you?

If I do what you said then do I get back my own Imate Splash screen too?

Do you know if I will suffer any problems with things being different versions?

Once again many thanks I will let you know how I get on.

Kind Regards,
Sam.

flykthewiz
30th March 2007, 01:57 PM
You can use winrar (free download - search google if you don't have it) to extract the files in your exe.

One of the file will be the nbf.

I will sort out the instructions for you but I have to go out for a couple of hours at the moment.

PianoSam
30th March 2007, 02:24 PM
flykthewiz,

You are simply The MAN

Many, Many thanks,

Sam.

flykthewiz
30th March 2007, 03:01 PM
I don't know about being the man - i had the same problem myself.

Attached is a zip file with the two tools you need.

I suggest you create a folder called c:\rom and copy the contents of your exe file and these to programs into it.

goto a dos cmd window and cd \rom

type "typho5 -x nk.nbf" (no quotes)

you will then have a number of *.nb files in c:\rom

rename nk.nbf to nk.org

send me the list of nb files you have.

ZIPPED with winzip 12

secoseco
30th March 2007, 03:58 PM
Hi flykthewiz

is 92000000-Splash.nb is the imate pic when softreset

cause am using AKU3.3.13.ASERG after I unlocked my Jamin with RUU_Prophet_220734_2207114_024721_NVID .... and want to go back only for the Imate screen instead of QTEK, and can I flash with it only

thanks

flykthewiz
30th March 2007, 04:42 PM
There are two splash screens - the one you mention is the first (often blank)

The second is 9d000000-xxx.nb this is the one that is displayed most of the time when the phone is booting. To enter this in nb2nbf you need to manually enter "HTC Logo" as the image name.

Hi flykthewiz

is 92000000-Splash.nb is the imate pic when softreset

cause am using AKU3.3.13.ASERG after I unlocked my Jamin with RUU_Prophet_220734_2207114_024721_NVID .... and want to go back only for the Imate screen instead of QTEK, and can I flash with it only

thanks

PianoSam
30th March 2007, 04:42 PM
FlykTheWiz,
Thanks for the tools.
The files I have are as follows:

30/03/2007 13:50 59,768,832 80040000-OS_0.nb
30/03/2007 13:50 786,432 91000000-SPL_1.nb
30/03/2007 13:50 786,432 91000000-SPL_2.nb
30/03/2007 13:50 196,608 92000000-Splash.nb
30/03/2007 13:50 2,621,440 96000000-GSM_0.nb
30/03/2007 13:50 10,485,760 9b000000-Extension.nb
30/03/2007 13:50 65,536 9d000000-HTC.nb


28/03/2006 15:51 74,713,088 nk.nbf

16/09/2005 12:20 53,248 nb2nbf.exe
13/03/2006 19:09 784,972 typho5.exe


I have loaded up the nb2nbf file but have no idea what to do with it - The only option appears to be for a Tornado...

Thanks,
Sam.

flykthewiz
30th March 2007, 05:03 PM
Ok

fill in nb2nbf like the image in the attached zip file.

Important notes:
1. use the ... browse buttons to select your files and the length field will be filled in for you (the image shows mostly zeros)

2. the image name for the extended rom is Extension Rom (not Extended) and you have to type it manually - its not in the drop dow list.

3. the start address for OS.nb is 80040000 (not 82040000 which the program defaults to)

4. you need to manually type HTC Logo in image type - its not in the list.

Do not add the ipl and spl files! (these are the ones that are causing your problems)

When its all filled in click on Translate and when that is finished exit the program.

If you have copied all of the contents of your extracted exe to c:\ROM you should have a program called ROMUpdateUtility.

Connect your pda to usb and run this program and follow the instructions (you've done this before :) )

After its finished your phone will hard reset and you should have your original ROM.

It doesnt matter that ipl and spl are different versions

Good Luck

secoseco
30th March 2007, 05:42 PM
There are two splash screens - the one you mention is the first (often blank)

The second is 9d000000-xxx.nb this is the one that is displayed most of the time when the phone is booting. To enter this in nb2nbf you need to manually enter "HTC Logo" as the image name.

thanks for replay

in Imate rom, splash screens and HTC Logo are differ from NVID QTEK rom
Can I flash only those 2 files to get back the Imate screen

thanks

flykthewiz
30th March 2007, 05:49 PM
Yes you can :)

thanks for replay

in Imate rom, splash screens and HTC Logo are differ from NVID QTEK rom
Can I flash only those 2 files to get back the Imate screen

thanks

PianoSam
30th March 2007, 05:49 PM
FlykTheWiz,

Many thanks for the instructions. I have done what you suggested with NB2NKF

However, When I try to run my RUU utility I get error code 238 Cannot Read the file.

I extracted all files into a single directory and replaced the default .NBF with my new one. Then ran the RUU tool.

Am I being a numpty?

Many thanks,

Sam.

flykthewiz
30th March 2007, 05:59 PM
hmmm

Try the appropriate RUU from the attached

If your ipl ends in .000 use G3 version
if ends in .0001 use G4 version

PianoSam
30th March 2007, 06:20 PM
I would just like to thank you for your kindness and patience. I have now got the HTC device reblown to the original condition that I started from (with the exception of the IPL/SPL).


Using the G4 utility worked for me.


On the way I have learned a great deal and appreciate your assistance.

Thank you very much,

Sam.

flykthewiz
30th March 2007, 06:21 PM
No problem at all :)

Mozzerr
30th March 2007, 10:35 PM
Flykthewiz... Many thanks for your input to this thread... your tutorial has helped me (and many of us) more than almost ANY other on this site!!! You are obviously very knowledgeable in this "art"!!!!

Since we have not seen much input from Jesterz or Smart1 lately (I can understand that it is time-consuming...!) , can I suggest that maybe you could take up the reigns and offer to this community your first Prophet ROM build??? (Any +AKU base will be a help??)

Please do consider doing this - I *know* you can do this and although I appreciate it can take a lot of your personal time and effort to achieve.. I am sure that your contribution will be appreciated and valued by us all, if u were to attempt such a project!!?

If not, we do understand... but please stay around here and continue to help us all with your flykth-wiz-dom!!!

Moz. :)

flykthewiz
30th March 2007, 10:47 PM
Thanks for your vote of confidence, but I have to say - you must be joking :)

I only started looking at modifying ROM's 2 days ago and it is a minefield. I have absolutely every respect for Jesterz, Smart1, Nghianha, and all of the guys over at PDAMobiz. I think it will be a long while before I am anything like of their calibre!


Flykthewiz... Many thanks for your input to this thread... your tutorial has helped me (and many of us) more than almost ANY other on this site!!! You are obviously very knowledgeable in this "art"!!!!

Since we have not seen much input from Jesterz or Smart1 lately (I can understand that it is time-consuming...!) , can I suggest that maybe you could take up the reigns and offer to this community your first Prophet ROM build??? (Any +AKU base will be a help??)

Please do consider doing this - I *know* you can do this and although I appreciate it can take a lot of your personal time and effort to achieve.. I am sure that your contribution will be appreciated and valued by us all, if u were to attempt such a project!!?

If not, we do understand... but please stay around here and continue to help us all with your flykth-wiz-dom!!!

Moz. :)

MAHDi25
30th March 2007, 11:01 PM
Hi all:

1. how to extract tools.zip on pc
2. my pda (i-mate jamin) and update smart1-new v2 . don't like change i-mate boot logo to Qtek how to change boot logo to original i-mate jamin?

thanks for step by step help.

Mozzerr
30th March 2007, 11:15 PM
"...a long while..."??? I don't think so!!! Still, your openess and willingness to share what you have learned in such a short while is refreshing to see on this forum!! I still say T H A N K Y O U ! !

Thanks for your vote of confidence, but I have to say - you must be joking :)

I only started looking at modifying ROM's 2 days ago and it is a minefield. I have absolutely every respect for Jesterz, Smart1, Nghianha, and all of the guys over at PDAMobiz. I think it will be a long while before I am anything like of their calibre!

fadimck
24th April 2007, 08:42 PM
Guys, please find below my personal experiance

i tried and followed every step in the attached file and succeded to UnLOck the CID

NOW i can move back or forward to any ROM version i want

for me i've JAMin G3 i tried everything to update my mobile to WM6, succeded and enjoyed it , my own problem was with the security certificate with my company's exchange server (it always hang my mobile)

so i went back to my Original ROM (official one) and kept enjoying my mobile


hope everyone will get benefit from this

jozsi86
5th May 2007, 12:48 PM
Hello.I want to rom update my xda neo with ROM version: 2.9.7.24 WWE english rom (G4 model).But when the update was 1% finished, error[326].
Please view this picture :
http://kepfeltoltes.hu/view/070504/error_www.kepfeltoltes.hu_.jpg
How can I do rom update?
Where can I download this files ?
(30/03/2007 13:50 59,768,832 80040000-OS_0.nb
30/03/2007 13:50 786,432 91000000-SPL_1.nb
30/03/2007 13:50 786,432 91000000-SPL_2.nb
30/03/2007 13:50 196,608 92000000-Splash.nb
30/03/2007 13:50 2,621,440 96000000-GSM_0.nb
30/03/2007 13:50 10,485,760 9b000000-Extension.nb
30/03/2007 13:50 65,536 9d000000-HTC.nb)

jozsi86
5th May 2007, 12:50 PM
Ok
fill in nb2nbf like the image in the attached zip file.
...
Good Luck

Hello.I want to rom update my xda neo with ROM version: 2.9.7.24 WWE english rom (G4 model).But when the update was 1% finished, error[326].
Please view this picture :
http://kepfeltoltes.hu/view/070504/error_www.kepfeltoltes.hu_.jpg
How can I do rom update?
Where can I download this files ?
(30/03/2007 13:50 59,768,832 80040000-OS_0.nb
30/03/2007 13:50 786,432 91000000-SPL_1.nb
30/03/2007 13:50 786,432 91000000-SPL_2.nb
30/03/2007 13:50 196,608 92000000-Splash.nb
30/03/2007 13:50 2,621,440 96000000-GSM_0.nb
30/03/2007 13:50 10,485,760 9b000000-Extension.nb
30/03/2007 13:50 65,536 9d000000-HTC.nb)

P4k1t0
5th May 2007, 03:43 PM
I don't know about being the man - i had the same problem myself.

Attached is a zip file with the two tools you need.

I suggest you create a folder called c:\rom and copy the contents of your exe file and these to programs into it.

goto a dos cmd window and cd \rom

type "typho5 -x nk.nbf" (no quotes)

you will then have a number of *.nb files in c:\rom

rename nk.nbf to nk.org

send me the list of nb files you have.

ZIPPED with winzip 12

i cant extract the files in attach :s

flykthewiz
5th May 2007, 03:43 PM
Read post 3-7 in this thread they tell you how to do it !!!!!




Hello.I want to rom update my xda neo with ROM version: 2.9.7.24 WWE english rom (G4 model).But when the update was 1% finished, error[326].
Please view this picture :
http://kepfeltoltes.hu/view/070504/error_www.kepfeltoltes.hu_.jpg
How can I do rom update?
Where can I download this files ?
(30/03/2007 13:50 59,768,832 80040000-OS_0.nb
30/03/2007 13:50 786,432 91000000-SPL_1.nb
30/03/2007 13:50 786,432 91000000-SPL_2.nb
30/03/2007 13:50 196,608 92000000-Splash.nb
30/03/2007 13:50 2,621,440 96000000-GSM_0.nb
30/03/2007 13:50 10,485,760 9b000000-Extension.nb
30/03/2007 13:50 65,536 9d000000-HTC.nb)

flykthewiz
5th May 2007, 03:44 PM
Have you tried using winzip 12 like it says in the post!

i cant extract the files in attach :s

P4k1t0
5th May 2007, 04:50 PM
Have you tried using winzip 12 like it says in the post!

LOL... sorry that!!!
I will try now ;)

Air07
5th May 2007, 08:41 PM
Hi All,

I read all the Post's but i still have the problem that i cannot install my ROM the WWE. Really since a couple of Hour's i am sitting at my laptop and i am stucked now. Dont know what to do.

Can Anybody help me ?

I reached the bootloader mod but whenever i try to run the ROM utility from Imate itself i am getting stucked at 95 % and this is giving me an error message that the nbf file is not right ?

Can anyone explain me what's going on with my Imate ???

Guy's now i have a very strange situation, i still tried to install the ROM for my Imate Jamin i took specially the version from the Imate site, but now i have a bigger problem again i am stucked at 95 % but now i am getting these following error.

ERROR 326 INVALID COMMAND.

How to recover this stupid situation Please Help.


Can Anybody also paste the link for winzip 12 pls.


Hey Guy's

I Have solved my problem, it was my Antivirus and firewall which was blocking the ROM Update thats why it was stopping by 95 %. If anybody else has the same problem just disable antivirus and firewall.

n0dn0d
10th May 2007, 05:32 PM
I don't know about being the man - i had the same problem myself.

Attached is a zip file with the two tools you need.

I suggest you create a folder called c:\rom and copy the contents of your exe file and these to programs into it.

goto a dos cmd window and cd \rom

type "typho5 -x nk.nbf" (no quotes)

you will then have a number of *.nb files in c:\rom

rename nk.nbf to nk.org

send me the list of nb files you have.

ZIPPED with winzip 12

i got the same problem here, but furthermore i have more problem since this tools file was zipped using WINZIP! i cant open it using winrar nor older winzip versions so in my desperate hours i still have to roam the net for a puny program called winzip 12! please forgive my frustration here, not that i dont appreciate your help or anything, your help has been enormous for us all
again, forgive my frustration...

n0dn0d
11th May 2007, 02:38 AM
finally i've managed to install the original rom, but still cant change the ipl/spl, everything works fine, but when i woke up this morning and check my the battery, it reads at 69%, while it was fully charged last night
i've never experience this before i upgrade the SPL/IPL, does this have anything to do with it? how to fix this problem then? thx

badmotor
11th May 2007, 03:27 AM
Will this work with the G4 (IPL & SPL 2.13.0001) Jamin?
Guys, please find below my personal experiance

i tried and followed every step in the attached file and succeded to UnLOck the CID

NOW i can move back or forward to any ROM version i want

for me i've JAMin G3 i tried everything to update my mobile to WM6, succeded and enjoyed it , my own problem was with the security certificate with my company's exchange server (it always hang my mobile)

so i went back to my Original ROM (official one) and kept enjoying my mobile


hope everyone will get benefit from this

dpast
20th May 2007, 08:44 AM
Can someone repost the tools.zip file. When extracting the files are all corrupt.



I don't know about being the man - i had the same problem myself.

Attached is a zip file with the two tools you need.

I suggest you create a folder called c:\rom and copy the contents of your exe file and these to programs into it.

goto a dos cmd window and cd \rom

type "typho5 -x nk.nbf" (no quotes)

you will then have a number of *.nb files in c:\rom

rename nk.nbf to nk.org

send me the list of nb files you have.

ZIPPED with winzip 12

mc_kazz
27th May 2007, 06:31 AM
Have you tried using winzip 12 like it says in the post!

may i know where to find winzip 12 for free down loading
:confused:

mc_kazz
27th May 2007, 06:32 AM
i can't open the link of http://files.pdamobiz.com/c/PDAMobiz..._unlockCID.rar
can anybody help for this

P4k1t0
8th July 2007, 08:25 PM
Pleas i need help!
When i upgrate my pda... stuck allways in 50% ... i dont know how this hapen :(
Can somebody see on attach. files if the process is correct please!... :(

P4k1t0
9th July 2007, 09:23 AM
Pleaseee.... Help!!!! :(

brentd
14th July 2007, 04:49 AM
The start address for OS should be: 80040000.
Not the default which you have in your picture