internet plans for tmobile users

[omaralt]

hey guys, this question is for tmobile users. ive called tmobile, and nobody knows what theyre talking about. im trying to figure out the difference between the 5.99 tzones plan and the 29.99 total internet package. i guess i just wanna figure out what i can do with the 5.99 plan. thanks

ps. anybody hear when tmobile is gonna release the wm6 update? ive been hearing that wm6 is also gonna have office mobile, anybody hear this? thanks

omar

[lafester]

tmobile is in the process of locking down the 5.99 plan so depending on where you live the results may very. some are getting unlimite internet with NO plan whatsoever and others are getting full internet with the 5.99 plan but still no proxy.

its SUPPOSED to work like this: the 5.99 plan allows wap access to mobile wap sites, email and sms. The proxy currently allows http browsing and limited streams/downloads but this may be locked down at some time if they can ever figure out how to allow email and wap but not http. be aware that java apps like opera mini as well as msn messenger/mail will NOT work with the proxy.

there is an option to the total internet plan. you can sign up for the blackberry plan for 19.99 which gives unlimited access but does not include tmobile email or hotspots. you can however set up blackberry connect which i have no experience with but some here seem to like it.

go to howardforums.com for the best info on tmobile plans.

thanks, chris

[snudel]

they wont tell you the proxy. just order it and don't say that you have a smartphone. the 5.99$ plan is great. the settings are all over the internet.

they always want to argue with you that this is not for pocket pc and smartphone users. but who cares. :)

[jeg815]

They shut me down and I called and complained. I was told that I would have to use their $29.99 plan for internet, and the Dash was incompatible with T-Zones ($5.99) internet plan. I told them when I bought the phone the salesman signed me up for T-Zones, and if the Dash didn't support it why was there a T-Zone button on the Dash? They turned me back on to the $5.99 plan. :) I get to every site I need to get to with T-Zones. If they try and shut you down complain, and tell them that the Dash has a dedicated T-Zone button on it right next to the camera and email button.

[jeg815]

I'm using the same setup with my Treo 680. I just swap out my Dash's SIM card and put it in my Treo. I go to preferences>network>and select T-Zones and it connects. I can surf, and send email.

[jnmarshall]

In the states, I had to upgrade to the $29.95 plan. It includes the $5.99 plan, plus gives me hotspots for use with my laptop when I travel. It's been worth it. And allows me to use the phone as an ISP modem as a last resort. I did need to add the proxy for T-Zones to work properly.

[jeg815]

The problem is T-Mobile is turing off T-Zones on Dash owners, it has nothing to do with their wifi hot spot connections. They want to charge $29.99 to use their EDGE network unlimited. They can't get away with this because they put a T-Zone button on the Dash, therefore allowing Dash customers to get the $5.99 plan T-Zone plan. They turned me right back on when I told them that they have a T-Zone button on the phone, it's not my problem they've just decided that Dash customers should pay $29.99 for their slow EDGE network. That little pink t-zone button on the Dash is biting them in the @$$. They've got to honor the $5.99 price.

[chaznet]

There's a lot of misinformation here... here's how it is:

The $5.99 T-Zones plan is very limited. You get weather updates, TMobile account info, movie showtimes, news headlines and a few other similar offerings. You don't get email, or unlimited browsing. Very basic and only works with the WAP browser on the Dash, not IE.

For quite some time, if you had T-Zones, you could set up IE with the T-Zones proxy info and get unlimited browsing without upgrading your plan. I could also access my Exchange email using the email application on my phone. It was great when it worked for me, but at some point it stopped -- I called customer support and the guy explained that it wasn't supposed to work this way and they were in the process of upgrading their systems to enforce the T-Zones level of service, and that I had to upgrade to the Total Internet package. Some users are still able to utilize the T-Zones proxy settings for this, but eventually it won't be possible for anyone.

The Total Access is over-priced. You have to subscribe to the HotSpot service to get Internet access, priced separately but only available as a bundle. I don't like it as I never use the HotSpot (Starbucks/FedEx/Kinkos WiFi) service but have to pay for it to get internet. That is until recently -- a user posted that if you go to your settings at the TMobile web site, change your phone type to a Blackberry, and then add the Internet plan priced at $20. I did this and it works, without any proxy settings, but as with the TZones thing, who knows for how long.

[snudel]

There's a lot of misinformation here... here's how it is:

The $5.99 T-Zones plan is very limited. You get weather updates, TMobile account info, movie showtimes, news headlines and a few other similar offerings. You don't get email, or unlimited browsing. Very basic and only works with the WAP browser on the Dash, not IE.

thats crap dude. they just tell this to you. don't tell them that you have the dash. just order t-zones and configure it manually. after that everything http based works great. socket transfers are blocked. thats right. but who cares...

[stevemw]

I purchased my Dash last month and my salesman told me I only needed the Blackberry plan (19.99/mo) for unlimited Internet access (the 29.99 total access plan was needed for push e-mail only). I did have an opportunity to talk with Tmo customer support and they, as my salesman warned, told me I had the wrong plan, that my phone was not compatible with the Blackberry service but when I was firm about not needing their total-access package I was left alone. I think the cost of the package they push depends on the cost and capabilities of the phone your purchased, not what is actually needed for Internet access.

[jeg815]

thats crap dude. they just tell this to you. don't tell them that you have the dash. just order t-zones and configure it manually. after that everything http based works great. socket transfers are blocked. thats right. but who cares...

Totally agree, I get every web page I need and all my email using the T-Zone plan. They're just trying to get more $$ out of us. It works, just configure it and you're good to go.

[chaznet]

Um... sorry 'dude', it's the way it is. If it's working for you, great, it won't forever.

thats crap dude. they just tell this to you. don't tell them that you have the dash. just order t-zones and configure it manually. after that everything http based works great. socket transfers are blocked. thats right. but who cares...

[chaznet]

Did the guy tell you it wouldn't work with push email? It works fine for me with the blackberry plan.

I purchased my Dash last month and my salesman told me I only needed the Blackberry plan (19.99/mo) for unlimited Internet access (the 29.99 total access plan was needed for push e-mail only). I did have an opportunity to talk with Tmo customer support and they, as my salesman warned, told me I had the wrong plan, that my phone was not compatible with the Blackberry service but when I was firm about not needing their total-access package I was left alone. I think the cost of the package they push depends on the cost and capabilities of the phone your purchased, not what is actually needed for Internet access.

[chaznet]

I did previsously have it configured with TZones (read the post) and it worked -- then it stopped and can no longer be configured with the TZones proxy settings.

Totally agree, I get every web page I need and all my email using the T-Zone plan. They're just trying to get more $$ out of us. It works, just configure it and you're good to go.

[jeg815]

you need to call T-Mobile, I bet they shut you down. They did the same thing to me. They gave me BS that their servers did updates and found Dash owners were getting internet, and they shouldn't be. They said they had to turn it off. I said that I was sold a Dash with T-ZONE and it worked fine up until that point, there's a reason why there's a T-Zone button on the Dash. They probably turned u off, tell them to turn you back on.

[chaznet]

This happended before I got my Dash, I had the SDA at the time. They actually offer TZones with the Dash, it works with the WAP browser (the one that comes up when you push the TZones button) but not IE.

you need to call T-Mobile, I bet they shut you down. They did the same thing to me. They gave me BS that their servers did updates and found Dash owners were getting internet, and they shouldn't be. They said they had to turn it off. I said that I was sold a Dash with T-ZONE and it worked fine up until that point, there's a reason why there's a T-Zone button on the Dash. They probably turned u off, tell them to turn you back on.

[wolf39us]

tmobile is in the process of locking down the 5.99 plan so depending on where you live the results may very. some are getting unlimite internet with NO plan whatsoever and others are getting full internet with the 5.99 plan but still no proxy.

its SUPPOSED to work like this: the 5.99 plan allows wap access to mobile wap sites, email and sms. The proxy currently allows http browsing and limited streams/downloads but this may be locked down at some time if they can ever figure out how to allow email and wap but not http. be aware that java apps like opera mini as well as msn messenger/mail will NOT work with the proxy.

there is an option to the total internet plan. you can sign up for the blackberry plan for 19.99 which gives unlimited access but does not include tmobile email or hotspots. you can however set up blackberry connect which i have no experience with but some here seem to like it.

go to howardforums.com for the best info on tmobile plans.

thanks, chris

OK! I am sorry to say to you that this is incorrect

I JUST yesterday flashed to kavana rom...I had to play with the internet settings for awhile...but ALL my JAVA apps do work (btw I LOVE Opera Mini, I'm new to it) Gmail APP works...pocket IE works, EMAIL works (which was the bitchy one to get working for me) everything internet related works...I can download files and the whole shabang...and I am on the $5.99 plan

here is a tutorial of how to get your internet working (I did this tutorial step-by-step and I can confirm it works 100%)

Using the web with just the $5.99 plan
Credit for the below information goes to the members of Howardforums.com

Unlimited internet with the $5.99 T-MobileWeb service
The $29.99/month T-Mobile Total Internet package is not required to have unlimited internet access on the Dash, instead the $5.99 T-MobileWeb service is all you need. Note the following limitations to the T-MobileWeb internet service:

1. The internet applications on your device will need to have an option to specify a connection to a proxy server, if it doesn't have this option then the application most likely will not be able to access the internet.

2. The following applications will not work over T-MobileWeb: MSN Messenger, Agile Messenger (without the proxy option), some streaming media, Hotmail, Pocket MSN, and Java applications.

To setup the internet connection over T-MobileWeb follow these instructions:

1. Add the $5.99 T-MobileWeb service to your current voice plan (it may take up to 72 hours to activate, but typically takes less than 24 hours).

2. Follow the below instructions to setup the Dash:

1. Add the T-MobileWeb (T-Zones) Proxy Connection
Start Menu -> Settings -> Connections -> Proxy -> Menu -> Add

Description: T-Zones Proxy
Connects from: Wap Network
Connects to: The Internet
Proxy (name : port): 216.155.165.50:8080
Type: HTTP
User name: <blank>
Password: <blank>

Press Done.

2. Configure the Existing Data Connection
Start Menu -> Settings -> Connections -> GPRS -> T-Mobile Data -> Menu -> Edit

Connects to: WAP Network
Access point: wap.voicestream.com
User name: <blank>
Password: <blank>
Primary DNS: 0.0.0.0
Secondary DNS: 0.0.0.0
IP address: <blank>

Press Done.

3. Configure Pocket Internet Explorer
Start Menu -> Internet Explorer -> Menu -> Tools -> Options -> Connections

Uncheck "Automatically detect settings".
Select Network: The Internet (Must be set to "The Internet" to work over WiFi. Try "WAP Network" if you're having trouble over the EDGE/GPRS connection)

Press Done.

4. Configure Messaging (follow these steps for POP or IMAP email accounts that have been manually setup)
Start Menu -> Messaging -> Highlight your email account -> Menu -> Settings -> Press Next twice

Select Network: WAP Network

Press Next three times then Finish.



The following applies to email on WM6:
In Settings/Connections/GPRS/T-Mobile Data: Tmobile Data
Connects to: Wap Network
Access Point: wap.voicestream.com

AND add another GPRS option:

T-Mobile Data2
Connects to: Work
Access Point: wap.voicestream.com

Then create TWO Proxies:
Settings/Connections/Proxy

First Proxy:
Name:Tzones Proxy
Connects from: WAP Network
Connects to: The Internet
Proxy: 216.155.165.50:8080
Type: HTTP

Second Proxy:
Name Tzones Proxy2
Connects from: Work
Connects to: The Internet
Proxy: 216.155.165.50:8080
Type: HTTP

In connections, click menu, then advance and set ALL connections to AUTOMATIC

To get the Exchange Server working:
(Exchange Server settings)
Options/Advanced
Connection: Internet


To get Pop mail accounts working:
(This will need to be done for each account you have)

Options/Account settings/Advanced Server Settings
Network Connection: Work
NOTE! The option to select which way to connect isnt available until you finish creating the POP account (go back in and change to: Work)

To get IE working:
(In IE)Menu/Tools/Options/Connections
Check "Automatically Detect Settings"
Select Network: WAP Network

[jeg815]

Thanks for posting those settings. Since upgrading my Dash to Windows Mobile 6.1 I could no longer use the internet using the T-Zones plan (I could send and receive email only). With the above settings I can use the internet and email, thanks again for posting these!!

[skisteven1]

FYI there is no need for the $29.99 plan. I have a $19.99 unlimited internet plan that allows me to do everything, and INCLUDES hotspot access. Maybe they just messed up on mine, but I have no problems with it, unlimited internet and push email (but not through tmobile email servers -- i have my own).

[s2kver02]

All you guys need is the total internet add-on for 19.99 and just set up the vpn or run the automatic wizard setting for tmobile.

[Rip Syntaxx]

Okay...this has bothered me for--the entire duration of the thread. As far as I'm concerned, the "most" internet you can get from T-Mobile IS the $19.99 plan! They no longer require $29.99.

[wolf39us]

Thanks for posting those settings. Since upgrading my Dash to Windows Mobile 6.1 I could no longer use the internet using the T-Zones plan (I could send and receive email only). With the above settings I can use the internet and email, thanks again for posting these!!

you are very welcome!!

I went through hell to find the correct settings lol

[pudgedaddy]

Okay...this has bothered me for--the entire duration of the thread. As far as I'm concerned, the "most" internet you can get from T-Mobile IS the $19.99 plan! They no longer require $29.99.

Well actually some folks may not know this yet, but tmobile changed their unlimited plan from 29.99 to 19.99, but for the people who dont know this, they are still paying for the 29.99 plan which i think is scandalous of tmobile to still charge them that much