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roback80
06-04-2007, 09:14 PM
Hello, I have scoured and search and read multiple forum posts here about Lokiwiz, Faria's Incredible ROMs and how to downgrade etc etc. But I am still muddled oh a few things.

Firstly:
I have an HTC Wizard from T-Mobile that is SIM unlocked and working on local network with local SIM. I am completely happy with the phone but for the fact that my WIFI does not work.

I have found posts that gave me RegEdit instructions to fix this and they have not worked. I have read through a multitude of pages and posts here and at HTCWIzardWeb on upgrading rom etc and it freaks me out... last thing i want is a brick - as seems to be the expression.

I have the latest release ROMS from T-Mobile per their website.

So:
1. How can i tell if my Wizard is CID unlocked?
2. Is there a way to activate the WIFI without switching to a cooked ROM?
3. Are there other manfuacturers ROMS that I can transfer to that have WIFI enabled?

Simply put I am scared to death of this whole ROM update thing and I am not ashamed to admit it. Down right fearful!!

I am such a noob to the whole PPC thing that if possible I don't want to mess with too much until I get feet a little wet with some simple things. And the last thing I want to Brick my phone...

So if anyone, can help me out and provide some clear concise info about these things, that would be greatly appreciated.

I look forward to getting in deeper with all this stuff, but for now I just need a little spoon feeding.

Thanks!

Rob

manchoi44
06-04-2007, 09:32 PM
Hey Rob,

Soft-reset your phone and on the white screen that flashes up (with the t-mobile logo on it) there should be some letters and numbers in the upper-left hand corner of the screen. What do the numbers next to IPL and SPL read?

if they end with .0001, i'm afraid your phone is a G4 and is CID-locked, my friend...

but don't worry...there are ways around this. I myself have a G4 Wizard (t-mobile) and have been able to flash many different roms (i'm currently using xplore wm6 which is great btw). I believe there's a G4 flashing tutorial in the G4 threads...

but, if you're still too nervous, don't do it just b/c i said it was possible! I don't want to be responsible for bricking your phone! ;)

roback80
06-04-2007, 09:39 PM
My phone is G3 per other posts... no .0000x after the IPL and SPL.

manchoi44
06-04-2007, 09:47 PM
hmm...

I used to have the most recent t-mobile rom for the MDA as well... but I never had any issues with the wi-fi... have you tried connecting with many different access points?

or, t-mobile forbid, a hardware issue?

roback80
06-04-2007, 09:52 PM
hmm...

I used to have the most recent t-mobile rom for the MDA as well... but I never had any issues with the wi-fi... have you tried connecting with many different access points?

or, t-mobile forbid, a hardware issue?
Not sure what it is exactly... just does not connect to any wifi. Read on various forms that T-Mob lokced it off, but nothing seems to have a clear answers...

one post here had a cab that supposedly worked but it did nothing... which made me believe I was not CID unlocked and started me down this whole haunted house of ROM speak...

mfrazzz
07-04-2007, 05:12 AM
If you decide you want to try the flashing route to move to a custom rom, here's the thread to read and use to get yourself CID Unlocked and then into the promised land of custom roms ;)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298613

Can't say whether going to a custom would fix your wifi issue (I'd advise you stay away from WM6 roms as Wifi isn't always reliable with some of them). Maybe try Faria AKU 3.3, or Molski 2.3 final as they are good solid custom roms.

Then if you don't like it, you can easily flash back to your trusty T-Mobile 2.26 ROM and be back to known territory.

Good luck!

roback80
07-04-2007, 08:21 AM
Appreciate the link and the advice, however, I am still trying to find out how I can I tell if my device is already CID unlocked. That is priority one and surely there has to be a way to tell.

Next I want to know if there is an easy, non-ROM-Flashing way to activate my WIFI. Again surely there are some things I can attempt to adjust this prior to flashing a custom ROM??

After that, if I still can't get the WIFI to work, then I will have to lose the skirt, tighten the ol' jock strap and dive feet first into this ROM flashing world.

So again, first I need to know these things:
1. How can I tell if I am already CID unlocked?
2. How can I try to activate my WIFI (RegEdits?)

Thanks

calouro
07-04-2007, 06:09 PM
Appreciate the link and the advice, however, I am still trying to find out how I can I tell if my device is already CID unlocked. That is priority one and surely there has to be a way to tell.

Next I want to know if there is an easy, non-ROM-Flashing way to activate my WIFI. Again surely there are some things I can attempt to adjust this prior to flashing a custom ROM??

After that, if I still can't get the WIFI to work, then I will have to lose the skirt, tighten the ol' jock strap and dive feet first into this ROM flashing world.

So again, first I need to know these things:
1. How can I tell if I am already CID unlocked?
2. How can I try to activate my WIFI (RegEdits?)

Thanks


I have read almost every post in this form, and I remember coming across question 1. The answer is: You can't tell, the best and safest way (so you are less likely to brick your phone) is the follow the procedure step by step (DO NOT SKIP ANY STEPS) in written by Dr. P found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=285435 to unlock the phone. If you try to burn a custom ROM without unlocking, you'll have big problems.
Question 2: By default, your phone probably has wifi 802.11G turned off in the reg settings. Only 802.11b is turned on, so unless you have an 802.11b router it will not work. Have you tried this tweak?

• Enable 802.11g 54Mbps

To enable 802.11g set:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\COMM\TNETWLN1\PARMS "dot11SupportedRateMask"=dword:00000001

and add this key:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\COMM\TNETWLN1\PARMS "dot11SupportedRateMaskG"=dword:00000008

I used a number of WM6 ROMs and the wifi always worked great, I also used Cingular’s stock WM5 and now I’m Faria’s WM5 3.3 and the wifi always works great! All of the costume ROMs I have used already has this wifi tweak added.

roback80
09-04-2007, 07:54 PM
Okay, I tried the regedit and both of those keys already exist and are already set to 1 and 8 respectively. Nothing.

So i guess that leaves me one final option and that is to CID the darn thing and hope to God I don't turf my unit.

Thanks for the help... Any last words of advice/caution/etc. before I dive into this process?

mfrazzz
10-04-2007, 02:44 AM
Just read and follow the link I gave you above. Don't skip steps and you will be fine. Its really not that bad, and you will be amazec at how your phone can perform.

BBowermaster
10-04-2007, 06:08 AM
Are you sure you're understanding what WiFi is? Do you have a wireless router? Not trying to insult you, but the way you are asking the question infers that you think the phone just comes with wifi that gives you internet access. Wifi requires a wireless access point

If you want internet everywhere, you're thinking of GPRS, which either requires a data plan, or is charged per kilobyte.

roback80
12-04-2007, 11:09 AM
Yes, I know what Wifi is. I have a WRT54G Linksys wireless router set to b/g mode. Laptop connects to it without effort. My iPaq 6315 connects without effort. Know my Wizard can do the same, but can't seem to get it to work... which has brought me here...

So I start reading through steps, downloading all the files suggested and preparing to CID unlock and flash a new ROM. But when I get to step 3 of Docs directions, I realize one thing, that I don't really know how to "Flash" a ROM or Downgrade. Now call me stupid if you must, but my searches of the forums keep bringing me back to the same thread from Dr.P. And Step 3, I quote, "3.. Downgrade your ROM to the Button 1.05. Let it go through the whole setup please..." But it doesn't tell you HOW to downgrade!

Okay, you finished laughing and cursing me?

But I am serious about not knowing HOW and deathly afraid of bricking my Wizard I figured it would do no harm to ask and get a full clarification of the whole process.

So if someone could help me out in that regard, that would be greatly apprecaited.

Thanks

jwzg
12-04-2007, 12:15 PM
Downgrading the ROM is as simple as downloading the file and executing the ROM update utility (RUU). After that, just simply follow the instructions.

mfrazzz
12-04-2007, 05:55 PM
RUU is your friend (unless you are on a G4, then you need to be careful with it). But yeah, just download the file and execute it. You'll need to have your phone connected to your computer. It will step you through the process.

roback80
12-04-2007, 06:42 PM
I was hoping it was that easy, but gotta make sure... better to ask than to be another poster with a brick :-)

Alright!!! Did it and it worked like a charm!! BUT STILL NO WIFI ACCESS!!! WHAT the HECK!!

So now I search for a custom ROM that might solve this problem.

Any suggestions?

And thanks for the spoon feeding...

BBowermaster
13-04-2007, 04:03 AM
How is your router set up, what kind of security settings?

So to make sure all of us have the complete situation down. You can turn on wi-fi, you just can't connect to anyone? Does it list your router? Did you try downloading Wififofum and see if it shows your router on the radar?

roback80
13-04-2007, 06:06 AM
How is your router set up, what kind of security settings?

So to make sure all of us have the complete situation down. You can turn on wi-fi, you just can't connect to anyone? Does it list your router? Did you try downloading Wififofum and see if it shows your router on the radar?

Router set up in WPA-PSK, dual b/g mode. When I tap the WiFi button in CommManager, it shows the windows loader icon for a few seconds, then shuts off the Wifi. It is not even turning on the wifi. Nothing else on the router is customized... just straight out of the box WPA settings.

I have tried switching to just b and just g to see if that made a difference, but absolutely nothing.

There are 4 secured wireless networks in my complex. My Laptop detects them all. My iPaq 6315 detects them all and connects to mine with no problems. Put the PassKey for my router in the iPaq and presto, no hassles at all. My Wizard... Nada!! When I go to Wifi settings, it does not even allow me to enter info into the settings fields.

Have not tried Wififofum yet... but would it make a diffence if I cannot get my wifi to turn on? This is the thought process that brought me to looking at Custom ROMS. Thinking T-Mob has locked it off or something? I mean when I researched PDA phones and chose the Wizard (T-Mob MDA) I did so because it was wifi capable. And everything I have looked up since says it is.

I have tried the RegKeys and unless I am doing something wrong they didn't change anything.

So I am at a complete loss. So maybe I should try Faria's AKU2 ROM? Or his WM6 ROM? Any suggestions?

Thanks

BBowermaster
14-04-2007, 01:00 AM
A few people have intermitten problems like the one you describe, but not constantly. I would just try flashing T-Mobile's official rom first, no cooking, unlocking, etc needed. See if that fixes it.

roback80
14-04-2007, 08:56 AM
A few people have intermitten problems like the one you describe, but not constantly. I would just try flashing T-Mobile's official rom first, no cooking, unlocking, etc needed. See if that fixes it.
I currently have the latest T-Mob ROM. Just CID unlocked, but there are no other customizations or cooked up stuff done to it.

For further reference, Staying at a friends house, whose running same WRT54G Linksys, but has it unsecured. Laptop connects. iPaq connects. Wizard nada.

So I am left thinking 3 things:
1. Something wrong with the ROM I have (standard tmobile 2.26)
2. Something wrong with the regkeys or other settings.
3. Something is physically wrong with my wifi on my wizard.

Any suggestions (and links) to another ROM known to work with Wifi??

PS Also of note, though not sure if related - Bluetooth works fine on the device. Can communicate with laptop and ipaq via bluetooth.

mfrazzz
14-04-2007, 04:36 PM
So I am left thinking 3 things:
1. Something wrong with the ROM I have (standard tmobile 2.26)
2. Something wrong with the regkeys or other settings.
3. Something is physically wrong with my wifi on my wizard.

Here's how it SHOULD work. When you turn on WiFI from the CommManager screen, the icon will indicate that its now on. If that never turns on its either a problem with your rom or you have a hardware issue. At this point you should go grab your latest official rom from your carrier (TMobile 2.26) and reflash it (even if thats what you already have). If you still have the issue then to me its a hardware issue. If you don't believe that and have to further prove it to yourself then go get the official Cingular rom (its on the HTC website just tell it you have an 8125) or get the Wizard Love rom and flash them to see if it makes a difference (but if TMobile ship can't turn it on, the others won't be able to either is my bet). Your only option then is to do a hardware exchange (just make sure you put it back to the TMobile rom.

If that WiFi button in the CommManager does turn on, then at that point your phone will search and then tell you the access point(s) it finds (Both secured and unsecured). If that doesn't happen then most likely its a hardware issue.

ndwolf
29-12-2007, 10:19 PM
Hi,

I've a similar issue with my Wizard Cingular 8125 science i flashed wizard love rom, but noticed that the phone already connects to dlink wireless routers but not to linksys wireless routers, i've already flashed wizard love rom for G4's everything fine but no linksys wireless connections, when i had the original rom connecting with linksys wasn't a problem.

I've tried changing wep passwords to 64 bits, trying 4 different keys but nothing, changing the wireless channel, also i've already installed the radio v2 patch but nothing.

How can i know that my phone is CID-LOCKED, i have IPL/SPL are 2.25.0001 ? i've excecuted awizard 2.0 cid-unlock commans but get a weird error on the excecution, the error doesn't seem to affect the process because the program says CID-UNLOCKED succesfully.

If anybody knows a way please let me know.... i'm very confortable with wizard love works fast and with spb plus and spb shell works very intuitive...