Use telephone and data connection at the same time?

[KanosWRX]

Back when I had the base Cingular WM5 rom on my phone I was able to talk on the phone and have my data connection going at the same time. Since upgrading to WM6, XDA Live .20 and Black 2.0 I have not been able to get that feature back. To make a call it has to disconnect me. Then once I get off the phone call the data connection connects again. I tried the Allways On option in HTweakC that came with the WM6 releases but that doesn't appear to be what I am looking for. Does anyone else notice this or have a fix?

[unwired4]

My device maintains a data connection whilst I am on voice calls. I receive emails fine whilst talking. Its on Black 2.0

[shogunmark]

Does anyone else notice this or have a fix?

yes.. try your phone and data in a 3G area... voice and data only works in 3G not edge......

[KanosWRX]

I have tried it in a 3G area, right by my work I have 4 bars of 3G. But everytime I try to call or get a call it always closes the data connection. :(

[shogunmark]

try using bandswitch and manually fixing the phone to 3G only.. just to make sure its really on 3G and not secretly on Edge..

[KanosWRX]

When I select the WCDMA Network I get the 3G Icon, when I select the GSM Network I get the E Icon. So I think it knows the difference between 3G and E just fine. I leave the "band" setting set to Auto.

BTW I am using radio rom 1.38.00.10 now, but even when I had the factory 1.16.00.00 I still had this problem with WM6. It only seemed to work with WM5. Another strange thing, in the phone app it says UMTS Cingular, just another sign it is actually using UMTS (3G).

Its just so annoying if I am online doing anything, slingbox, browsing the web, then when I want to make a call, it usually fails the first time while it disconnects then it goes through :(

Another odd thing probably just part of the new radio rom, when online and it starts to load data it switches to an H icon, I guess for HPDSA or whatever that abbreviation is.

[unwired4]

Are you sure its really closing the data connection? Ignore the icons. Send yourself some emails and see if they arrive whilst on voicecall.

[shogunmark]

When I select the WCDMA Network I get the 3G Icon, when I select the GSM Network I get the E Icon. So I think it knows the difference between 3G and E just fine. I leave the "band" setting set to Auto.

BTW I am using radio rom 1.38.00.10 now, but even when I had the factory 1.16.00.00 I still had this problem with WM6. It only seemed to work with WM5. Another strange thing, in the phone app it says UMTS Cingular, just another sign it is actually using UMTS (3G).

i was saying to do this as a test, just to make sure the phone wasnt doing something funny... just some basic troubleshooting to help find the problem...

kinda like if your car wont start.. there are different problems that could cause it, maybe its out of gas, maybe the fuel filter is clogged, maybe the battery is dead.. different things can cause similiar problems, its better to eliminate all possibilities

[harlenm]

I tested it this morning, data and voice works fine at the same time. Called voicemail and then opened up IE and was able to load several pages while on the call.

Edit, where are you located? Is it possible there is a problem with the network there? Try downgrading back to the Cingular software and see if that works.

[KanosWRX]

Shogunmark, I figured thats what you were getting at, and I tried all the options I could that would give me a connection to the network, but I still couldn't do data and telephone at the same time. Everytime I was connected online then went to place a data call it would have to disconnect me first. I tried doing a phone call then connecting online, but nothing would load.

I guess I could try going back to WM5, but I have hard spl 1.4 on so I gotta do a little rom editing of the cingular rom to get WM5 back I guess. didn't realize it was that complicated to go back to factory after installing hard spl.

Im surprised no one else has this issue. Its been like this for me pretty much as long as I have had WM6, so I doubt its the cingular network.

[Olipro]

Shogunmark, I figured thats what you were getting at, and I tried all the options I could that would give me a connection to the network, but I still couldn't do data and telephone at the same time. Everytime I was connected online then went to place a data call it would have to disconnect me first. I tried doing a phone call then connecting online, but nothing would load.

I guess I could try going back to WM5, but I have hard spl 1.4 on so I gotta do a little rom editing of the cingular rom to get WM5 back I guess. didn't realize it was that complicated to go back to factory after installing hard spl.

Im surprised no one else has this issue. Its been like this for me pretty much as long as I have had WM6, so I doubt its the cingular network.

not at all, just drop a WM5 NBH into a folder with CustomRUU and use autodetect. it'll flash quite happily

[KanosWRX]

How would I take the HTC Cingular rom (found here, http://www.america.htc.com/support/8525/software-downloads.html) and get the WM5 NBH? Or will I have to use another WM5 version?

[iammaz]

Just chiming in to say I don't have this problem ;) and I've used both those roms and still using WMXL 0.20 now and use data and calling all the time. I am using the same radio ROM as you now too and it still works ok.

What apps do you have installed? anything that would end the data connection for some reason? Maybe put a list of apps and customisations you've made since installing the WM6 rom you have?

You could also try it with a blank WM6 rom, manually add the data connection settings and try and see if that works? Just to eliminate 3rd party apps and thing's you've changed.

The only other similar thing i can think of is I do remember there was an issue where data would disconnect when changing between 3G and EDGE. I don't remember who had this problem or why but it could be related.
Let us know how it goes?
Maz

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This would be great to add to the bug tracker website when I finish it.
http://maz.net.au/

[harlenm]

How would I take the HTC Cingular rom (found here, http://www.america.htc.com/support/8525/software-downloads.html) and get the WM5 NBH? Or will I have to use another WM5 version?

Use this guide to go back to the Cingular ROM.

http://www.mrvanx.myzen.co.uk/hermes_guide/Downgrade/index.html

[KanosWRX]

Here are the apps I have

Resco File Explorer
Core Media Player
Slingbox

Don't run to many apps on my ppc as you can see. I mainly just use it to stream media from home (orb, slingbox), and internet connection sharing. I'll probably find some time tonight to revert back to WM5 and let you know what I find.

[KanosWRX]

Well I just flashed back to the cingular rom, and guess what it's working again, can talk on the phone and be on the internet at the same time. So weird. well I guess I will try going back to Black 2.0 and see what happens.

[aquanaut88]

Kanos,
Your problem is definitely not WM6. As in WM5, I can concurrently browse the internet during a voice call. As Mark said, there may be other issues specific to your case -- you'll have to methodically eliminate one-by-one... you'll have to decide if the process is really worth the time yourself.

FWIW:
Radio 1.34
HERMES 200 HT625 (in use since 7/4/2006)
Network: Manual (Taiwan UMTS)
Band: Auto/GSM(900+1800)+UMTS(2100)

Cheers

[KanosWRX]

I believe it's not truly a problem with WM6, as people obviously have gotten it to work. I will definitely look into it more and keep you all updated on what I find. Right now I am still on WM5 but I will flash back to WM6, no apps installed, right after a fresh hard reset and see if it works or not for me.

[KanosWRX]

I decided to try LVSW this time. Guess what it worked, I was able to both data and phone at the same time. Next test will be to install Black 2.0 again and see what happens.

My theory is this, I had XDALive .10 and maybe that version had this issue, then when I upgraded to .20 it carried over somehow and then carried over to black 2.0. Then once I went back to WM5 it reset everything. Don't ask me how, but obviously I have a lot more flashing to do to test this theory.

[simon_darley]

the imate site on wm5 proclaim this as a problem. when u r receiving data at a specific point in time u cannot receive a call.

the aust. telstra latest release says the upgrade fixes this.

to bypass going back to wm5 i just used the xda radio only upgrade to try and bypass. this was i believe only when receiving data and a call inwards simultaneously.


otherwise i have never had ur problem n likely a flash issue.


there is another i have noticed in recent releases is activesync now asks to allow data to be received when activesync this is a 4.5 change so perhaps looking for this setting may also help ur simultaneous data issue. just a guess but it might have been easy to not allow this when u upgraded to wmg which rwquired 4.5 to do this.

anyway goodluck with it.

[KanosWRX]

I just put Black 2.0 back on and it's still working for me, data and phone that its. So I think I am just going to chalk it up to a problem in my early upgrades. So if anyone else has this problem I would suggest going back to WM5, then flash once to the latest version of WM6 that you wish to use.

[CUSTEL]

I had the same issue (havent payed anny attention lately), doesnt really bother me because it reconnects immediately after the call connects so I haven't found it to be an issue.

[mviana]

I'm having the exact smae problem myself. I've tried hard resetting a few...well more than a few times now with no luck. I've also flashed WMBE Pro 2.0 quite a few times to no avail. Do I really have to go back to WM5 to fix this problem? Is there something else that maybe I can do? I guess if I have to go back it's not that big of a deal since I have flashed the ROM quite a few times. :D

Thanks

Edit: Do I need to worry about changing the Radio back? Currently I am using 1.40. Or do I need to just downgrade my OS ROM only?

[mviana]

My problem was fixed when I flashed Custel's Cingular Black 2.0. So in case anyone else is having the problem I would reccommend flashing it if you are running WMBE 2.0 already. Hell, even Cingular Video is working perfectly.

So just a quick shout out to you Custel, thanks for the ROM. It's sweet. :)

Marc

[spiritofseth]

Back when I had the base Cingular WM5 rom on my phone I was able to talk on the phone and have my data connection going at the same time. Since upgrading to WM6, XDA Live .20 and Black 2.0 I have not been able to get that feature back. To make a call it has to disconnect me. Then once I get off the phone call the data connection connects again. I tried the Allways On option in HTweakC that came with the WM6 releases but that doesn't appear to be what I am looking for. Does anyone else notice this or have a fix?
I have had the same problem with each and every single Wm6 rom on cingular. I have written about it b4 to no avail.