VoIP and keeping WiFi connected while standby mode

[eva_d]

I have finally decided to give WM6 a go on my Vario II and flashed it with latest 1.40 Olipro bootloader, 1.38 Radio and LVSW WM6 OS (btw, BIG thx for MrVanx for really great tutorials!).

In addition, I have installed VoIP application (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=299950 ) which I found pretty interesting, however it's also pretty unusable as WLAN connection goes down together with VoIP service while Hermes enters standby mode. I have found solution (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=245773 ) which unfortunately seems to not work with WM6. After applying Default={'0', '1', '2'} values, whole device completely hangs after resuming and the only solution is soft-reset by stylus. :( I've also set AllowSuspend=0 in HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\Parms, but it also does not keep WiFi on. Basically - I cannot effectively keep WiFi and VoIP up, which make whole VoIP application totally useless. :(

Did anyone manage to resolve this problem?

[chymmylt]

I have finally decided to give WM6 a go on my Vario II and flashed it with latest 1.40 Olipro bootloader, 1.38 Radio and LVSW WM6 OS (btw, BIG thx for MrVanx for really great tutorials!).

In addition, I have installed VoIP application (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=299950 ) which I found pretty interesting, however it's also pretty unusable as WLAN connection goes down together with VoIP service while Hermes enters standby mode. I have found solution (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=245773 ) which unfortunately seems to not work with WM6. After applying Default={'0', '1', '2'} values, whole device completely hangs after resuming and the only solution is soft-reset by stylus. :( I've also set AllowSuspend=0 in HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\Parms, but it also does not keep WiFi on. Basically - I cannot effectively keep WiFi and VoIP up, which make whole VoIP application totally useless. :(

Did anyone manage to resolve this problem?

I wish, I tried the same things you did with the same failures :(

[jmat]

I cannot effectively keep WiFi and VoIP up, which make whole VoIP application totally useless. :(

Did anyone manage to resolve this problem?

You'll find that if you kept WiFi on all the time, your battery will last about an hour (or less).. so... it's by design that WiFi shuts off when the phone drops into sleep mode. :(

[chymmylt]

I thought that WIFI used less energy output then Bluetooth and I've used a bluetooth headset on a phone call that lasted well over 3 hours and still had plenty of battery to last the rest of the day. Aside from 90% of the day I could easily keep the phone on charge (It's used on charge at home, work and in the car)

[eva_d]

You'll find that if you kept WiFi on all the time, your battery will last about an hour (or less).. so... it's by design that WiFi shuts off when the phone drops into sleep mode. :(

Yes, I am aware of that, as in every single topic I've found regarding this problem, there are zillions of posts saying about poor battery, but rarely anyone is coming up with actual solution. :(

Anyway, battery life is obviously a big downside, however without keeping WiFi on, there is absolutely no point of having VoIP application at all. I would be pleased to have fully working VoIP in my Hermes, as my first tests showed it works quite fine and could be excellent cost-saver international phone calls.

BTW, I'm curious how VoIP app works in official release of WM6 (not xda-cooked ROMs) - I cannot believe that VoIP configuration must be done by preparing XML/CAB file with settings, and WiFi goes down together with VoIP, making it useless. :-o

[cyberdrakula]

What about using a Screen Off utility like the ones used to keep Windows Media Player Working while turing the Screen Off. Then you would also need to go to the Battery Applet and unCheck the StandBy option.

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[chymmylt]

Yes, I am aware of that, as in every single topic I've found regarding this problem, there are zillions of posts saying about poor battery, but rarely anyone is coming up with actual solution. :(

Anyway, battery life is obviously a big downside, however without keeping WiFi on, there is absolutely no point of having VoIP application at all. I would be pleased to have fully working VoIP in my Hermes, as my first tests showed it works quite fine and could be excellent cost-saver international phone calls.

BTW, I'm curious how VoIP app works in official release of WM6 (not xda-cooked ROMs) - I cannot believe that VoIP configuration must be done by preparing XML/CAB file with settings, and WiFi goes down together with VoIP, making it useless. :-o

My guess is the official release will be something lame - only enablable by phone companies - i.e. Cingular will start offering Cingular VOIP where for $5/month more you can make unlimited calls within the U.S. (or insert your local country) on Cingular voip without using your minutes or something like that. The VOIP settings will be pre-installed by the carrier and you will be "unable" to change them yourself. I really have no idea if this is actually the way it will work but it tends to be the way that potentially cool things like this pan out :S

[elivne]

without keeping WiFi on, there is absolutely no point of having VoIP application at all.



VOIP is good on 3g as well(we currently use 64KB for a video calls! voice only will be much less, data costs will be much lower then minutes while calling long distance for example).

use it like this:
1. initiate the call yourself(turn on the WIFI)
2. use your DATA plan for long distance calls(out of country)

[eva_d]

VOIP is good on 3g as well(we currently use 64KB for a video calls! voice only will be much less, data costs will be much lower then minutes while calling long distance for example).

That's right, however any VoIP usage is strictly forbidden in my data plan (T-Mobile UK web'n'walk £7.50 option), and I don't want to risk any fines or anything for misuse of the service...

[alkizmo]

What about using a Screen Off utility like the ones used to keep Windows Media Player Working while turing the Screen Off. Then you would also need to go to the Battery Applet and unCheck the StandBy option.

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Why dont you do that Eva_d ?

Also, like mentioned before, wifi will murder your battery, but if you want to use VoIP for home use only, or office desk, then you can simply have a an extra long USB cable to constantly charge the phone. In the "backlight" settings, you can chose to have the phone ALWAYS-ON when plugged into a charger.

That way, you'll have a "home phone". All you'll have to do is unplug the charger if you wanna talk on the phone and walk around the place wireless :p

[eva_d]

Why dont you do that Eva_d ?

Also, like mentioned before, wifi will murder your battery, but if you want to use VoIP for home use only, or office desk, then you can simply have a an extra long USB cable to constantly charge the phone. In the "backlight" settings, you can chose to have the phone ALWAYS-ON when plugged into a charger.

Well, I found different solution. Using PocketZenPhone I have created 'VoIP' profile, which does not switch device off at all. So, when I plan to make or receive call through VoIP, I just switch that profile on, then WiFi and that's it. Maybe not very convenient, but works fine for me. :)

[hardcore]

Well, I found different solution. Using PocketZenPhone I have created 'VoIP' profile, which does not switch device off at all. So, when I plan to make or receive call through VoIP, I just switch that profile on, then WiFi and that's it. Maybe not very convenient, but works fine for me. :)

Thats a good idea. Just did the same with mine.

[chymmylt]

Well, I found different solution. Using PocketZenPhone I have created 'VoIP' profile, which does not switch device off at all. So, when I plan to make or receive call through VoIP, I just switch that profile on, then WiFi and that's it. Maybe not very convenient, but works fine for me. :)

Just purely out of curiosity, how does your battery life do leaving WIFI constantly on - can you make it through the day? If so what do you have left?

[eva_d]

Just purely out of curiosity, how does your battery life do leaving WIFI constantly on - can you make it through the day? If so what do you have left?

I neved used WiFi for whole day. I only switch it on when I need to call through VoIP. For everyday internet use I have T-Mobile's WnW package.

However, I must say - WiFi drains battery REALLY fast... :(