Spb Shell Landscape bug...

[mackaby007]

Hi all. As it is a recognised bug in Spb Shell that the Spb Menu does not display correctly in Landscape only, from a cold boot until you have navigated through some of its menu's (then it works perfectly until the next soft-reset), I was wondering if anyone had come across a simpler solution to this current problem.

Has anyone else experienced a slowing down of the O/S with it installed or memory leakage?

I 've looked around at previous threads and other sites, but I've either missed it or it doesn't exist.

I'm running version 1.0.0, Build 2632

Is there a newer version available? If so, can someone please provide a link as I cannot find anything at Spb's site.

Cheers

[mackaby007]

C'mon people. I know I'm not the only one to experience this as I have read a long thread about this on the developers website. It's just sometimes us end-users find ways around these types of issues and I was hoping this was one such time......No takers? OK, I'll simply report back the solution for all the shy ones once I have found it myself. :)

[wu5262]

C'mon people. I know I'm not the only one to experience this as I have read a long thread about this on the developers website. It's just sometimes us end-users find ways around these types of issues and I was hoping this was one such time......No takers? OK, I'll simply report back the solution for all the shy ones once I have found it myself. :)

you are not the only one, i have this problem too, that's why i disable the SPB menu, i am now only using the SPB Mobile Shell Today plugin. if i am not wrong, once you get your menu working or eventually load up, all your sound is gone.

I have heard other people having this problem too, so until next version is out, i will disable the menu for now.

[cornelius]

Wow. I didn't realize before. I have that prob to..

[mackaby007]

Ha ha me too. Didn't realise the sound issue was down to the menu though. Thanks for that Wu.

[wu5262]

Ha ha me too. Didn't realise the sound issue was down to the menu though. Thanks for that Wu.

glad to help, haha, you don't know what you have miss. I was surprise at first why my phone doesn't ring.

[LTxda]

My mVoice software suffers from a similar bug. I think I had another program that did this also but I don't remember which it was. Long since deleted it.

[Smartstradamus]

My camera doesnt work when mobile is running,it just comes up blank.

[faisal.husain]

I did have the same issue, however after installing true VGA, i no longer suffer from this issue; works perfectly.

[zwuncki]

what???????????????????????????

how did you get mobile shell to work with truevga?

several people including me don't get mobile shell to work (at least not the today plugin).

after installing i can't go to the today screen anymore. it gets stuck there. i need to go back to vga mode and uninstall it or hardreset.

[faisal.husain]

what???????????????????????????

how did you get mobile shell to work with truevga?

several people including me don't get mobile shell to work (at least not the today plugin).

after installing i can't go to the today screen anymore. it gets stuck there. i need to go back to vga mode and uninstall it or hardreset.

Yes, your quite right, you need to take the main spb shell today plugin out. However, the other plugins like world time and contacts etc can still remain. It is quite stable....

[QAN]

The problem is caused by the ATI videocard. It is not correctly supported bij SPB. Weeks ago I was in contact with SPB and I showed them this problem. The first 7 or 8 times that you use the menu nothing happens. At that point all te graphic memory get flushed. After the is no driver buffer memory left, it will show the icons. But at that point the camera and the sounds will not work anymore until you reset your device.

[mackaby007]

The problem is caused by the ATI videocard. It is not correctly supported bij SPB. Weeks ago I was in contact with SPB and I showed them this problem. The first 7 or 8 times that you use the menu nothing happens. At that point all te graphic memory get flushed. After the is no driver buffer memory left, it will show the icons. But at that point the camera and the sounds will not work anymore until you reset your device.

This ATI Imageon chip/driver is becoming the bain of my life!! Video performance is lacking due to it, and now it affects other applications and sound too.

I have been complaining about ATI since September 2006, specifically the 2282 Imageon technology found in the Hermes, Trinity and now the Athena. That's a lot of unsupported devices floating around out there. According to Corecodec, ATI haven't exactly been playing ball with them either...and they are developers!

Maybe if enough of us complain (large petition) to HTC, they can get ATI/AMD to get a fix together that will work on all Imageon based devices..WM5/6 . After all, HTC must be shelling out a fair few dollars to them...so if they will listen to anyone, it most likely will be HTC. Enough already...wish I had stuck to my guns and stayed away from any more devices that are Imageon 'disabled'. lol.


P.S. Oh by the way...if Spb haven't or cannot fix this by their next release, Spb Shell is coming off my Ameo and I will be demanding a FULL refund on the basis that it does not work as advertised on my WM5 device.

P.P.S Another good reason is that if Spb don't get it fixed by the next release, it's probably that they can't as they will need tech assistance from ATI/AMD and based on their track record with Corecodecs coreplayer, I'd say the possibility of this happening is slim to none. Just my experience over the last 8 months. :(

[zwuncki]

Yes, your quite right, you need to take the main spb shell today plugin out. However, the other plugins like world time and contacts etc can still remain. It is quite stable....

:(

thought you maybe had a solution for this.

i love the mobile shell today plugin, don't need the menu or start screen. so the most important doesn't work.

i've already written this in their forum, they don't seem to care, said it's the realvga resolution which is causing the problem (i should uninstall realvga... right, cause mobile shell is so much more important, man).
well maybe, but i don't think it's a lot to ask for a realvga today plugin which would work fine (as every other plugin does too), esp. as one of the devolpers has a vga device.

quite poor support (i love the sbsh support who help you in every way they can and very fast). i'm not a fan of spb developing/developers, that's why i don't use their products anymore and won't buy new ones.

[apphoen]

you are not the only one, i have this problem too, that's why i disable the SPB menu, i am now only using the SPB Mobile Shell Today plugin. if i am not wrong, once you get your menu working or eventually load up, all your sound is gone.

I have heard other people having this problem too, so until next version is out, i will disable the menu for now.

That's exactly what I've done. Disabled the menus and just use the Now screen. It's annoying 'cos I used it extensively on my Wizard.

One of the other problems is that when using Mobile Shell with SPB Diary, quite a lot of the screen is used up so only a days worth of appointments is usually shown.

Adey

[Superdawie]

Hi there guys. I also had the issue with the sound. Has since uninstalled Spb shell and done a hard reset but sound issue remains. Any help please?
I have the T-mobile ROM with WM5 on. Do any of you have WM6 and where to get it?

[wu5262]

Hi there guys. I also had the issue with the sound. Has since uninstalled Spb shell and done a hard reset but sound issue remains. Any help please?
I have the T-mobile ROM with WM5 on. Do any of you have WM6 and where to get it?

this must be the 7th or 8th times i have answer this question......NO, THERE IS NO WM6 YET, it will be out in about 2 months.

If you have done the hard-reset and haven't install any program, and your sound doesn't work, then this is something serious and might not due to SPB shell.

[di2307]

so, spb shell is NOT working on x7500, right?

[wu5262]

so, spb shell is NOT working on x7500, right?

you can still use the today plug in, but the spb menu won't work

[cornelius]

The potrait still wok, but the landscape didn't.

[Smartstradamus]

Spb mobile shell 1.5 final seems to have solved all the issues!

[boinger66]

yea its working on mine as well

[mackaby007]

Same here..working as it should...even in Landscape! :)

However, I find with Mobile Shell installed, I have problems with the much needed WM5torage application. I can never get it to activate anymore...even straight after a soft-reset!

Workaround (read this on another thread here at xda) and it works a treat for me, but it is a bit long winded. If you use Spb Plus, it comes with a safe mode option on soft-reset, allowing you to use WM5torage and then resetting back to normal usage after you finish using it.

I opted to use
SafeAdvanced (http://www.monocube.com/component/option,com_docman/task,cat_view/gid,13/Itemid,26/?mosmsg=You+are+trying+to+access+from+a+non-authorized+domain.+%28www.google.co.uk%29). A useful bit of kit that and 'fit for purpose'.

[zwuncki]

does it work in Real vga too?

thx.

[mackaby007]

does it work in Real vga too?

thx.

Hi zwuncki. Sorry I can't say as I don't regularly use Real VGA/True VGA, but I don't see why not. As the real VGA apps are 3rd party, I'd presume that they would be disabled in 'Safemode' and restored to normal after a reset. However you may find everything a little too small if accessing the 'Safemode' GUI from within WM5/6. Best to drop the developers a line concerning this.

If you do that, share your findings with us for the rest of the community. Cheers.

[boinger66]

i can attest it doesnt work in real vga


whats this safe modE? i keep hard reseting everytime my ameo doesnt work...

[zwuncki]

well, i tried it with 1.0 and the first beta 1.5. both didn't work in realvga. i complained about it months ago at their forum but they didn't seem to care (after all i don't think it's so hard to fix this bug). they didn't even answer to my post. poor support, that's why i ask.
it was hard to get the device after a SR to normal vga (to uninstall the software), because the device always crashes after a boot before entering the startscreen in realvga with mobile shell being installed.

[zwuncki]

i can attest it doesnt work in real vga


whats this safe modE? i keep hard reseting everytime my ameo doesnt work...

if you're very fast and have vga-mode installed (to switch betweens vga resolution) you can get to PROGRAMS before the device crashes after rebooting, but it's very hard.

i can only repeat it: poor support (esp. since at least one developer of the software has a vga device).

[mackaby007]

sorry zwuncki my last post was referring to 'SafeMode' only.lol I know Mobile shell will definitely not work in True/real VGA mode.

Hey boinger66. How's it going?:)
SafeAdvanced is an application that allows you to enter WM5 and WM6 I believe without enabling all your 3rd party apps, which let you uninstall any troublesome bit of software that you could not normally get to do because of problems with your devices e.g reset loop. It really is a useful bit of kit to have installed. I'll IM you now.

[boinger66]

sorry zwuncki my last post was referring to 'SafeMode' only.lol I know Mobile shell will definitely not work in True/real VGA mode.

Hey boinger66. How's it going?:)
SafeAdvanced is an application that allows you to enter WM5 and WM6 I believe without enabling all your 3rd party apps, which let you uninstall any troublesome bit of software that you could not normally get to do because of problems with your devices e.g reset loop. It really is a useful bit of kit to have installed. I'll IM you now.

thanks man I could really use that I am getting a lot of instability in mine

I can't wait for some cooked roms but I thinkk this prog will help a lot