HTC TyTn goes to SERVICE How to restore original SHIP ROM ? HELP NEEDED :(

[sbrani]

Dear Community, Dear Experts, Dear Gurus :D ,

I am hoping for your help. Unfortuntately the Speaker in my HTC TyTn died
and I need to send back the TYTN to the service center in order to get most likely the speaker replaced ( dead :( ).

Here my isue:
I want to flash the original stock rom, which is:
RUU_Hermes_1.18.257.2_1.18.257.106_1.03.03.10_Qtek _GER_Ship.exe

I have running now and downgraded from WM6 to WM5:

HTC_BOOT HERM200 IPL-1.04 SPL-2.10.Olipro ->>> not OK :-(
ROM HTC German QTEK_102 1.18.257.2 05/30/06 ->>> OK :-)
EXTROM 1.18.257.106 ->>> OK :-)
RadioRom 1.41.00.10 ->>> not OK :-(
Protocol 32.34.7010.01H ->>> OK :-)
OS Build 14955.2.3.0 ->>> OK :-)
AKU 2.3 ->>> OK :-)

The issue is now, how can I restore the original bootloader ? I can only
flash the rom with the RUUWrapper, the result of flashing the original stock
rom is then, that I am still stuck with the modified bootloader and a corrupted
radio rom. Radio Rom was "fixed" by me by flashing the latest version.

If I would try to use the original flasher I would always get an Update Error [260].

So what can I do to resotre the HTC TyTn to its original status, so that the warranty is not voided ... original stock bootloader, radio rom image and so on.

Thanks a lot and hoping for your support, since I am realy lost here.

Sbrani

[Midget_1990]

grab sspl (soft spl) (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=293651) and use that to flash a stock bootloader only.

as far as i know you cannot downgrade the radio due to it being bootloader 0108 variant, but not having a hermes i might be wrong :)

[abubasim]

You can restore the original SPL bootloader by using SSPL but you will not be able to downgrade the Radio as the original has HTC_BOOT 0106.
You have already checked these guys (http://www.myqtek.com/germany/myqtek.aspx) that they haven't released an update?

[sbrani]

First of all, thanks a lot for replying, but still the question is, how I can get rid of the HERM200 IPL-1.04 SPL-2.10.Olipro Bootloader. I would need to downgrade once again to the original HTC bootlader 106. As long as I have the other one, I will always end up, with a non working radio rom, since this stone old radio rom is not compatible with the new "IPL-1.04 SPL-2.10" bootlader. Any further Ideas ? Anyway the sspl (soft spl) did the trick and was able to flash orignal rom, but unfortunately with the same result, still not the original bootloader and the radio rom is now again corrupted :-(.

[abubasim]

The bootloader hindering you from downgrading to the original radio is not the IPL/SPL combo but instead the built-in bootloader of the radio itself. Read more in the Wiki (http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_ExtractedRadioRoms).

To put back your original SPL loader, use NBHextract (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=289830) to extract the SPL image from the ROM update file you used to downgrade the other bits in your phone, then use NBHgen (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=294046) to create an update file containing only the SPL and then use SSPL (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=293651) for the update.

[sbrani]

Hey great support here :-) ! Finally I also managed to restore the original bootloader, which is HERM200 IPL-1.00 HERM200 SPL-1.04. Now I only have to get the original radio rom running. Thanks a lot, seems that I can think now of actually reaching the final goal. I learned a lot. Great community !!!

[abubasim]

You're missing the point about the radio. Let me repeat:

You can't install the original radio ROM. You will brick the phone!

[pof]

abubasim is right, you have htc_boot 0108, so you can only flash radios with htc_boot 0107 or 0108, but not 0106. Your original radio has 0106, so if you flash it you'll get a NoGSM error and a bricked phone.

[Abo Forat]

abubasim is right, you have htc_boot 0108, so you can only flash radios with htc_boot 0107 or 0108,

Well Pof, abubasim, Couldn’t sbrani downgrade the radio with custom RUU to his own original Rom Radio first?? (almost the official known Radio is 1.38) then following your description. At that time he gone have WM5 Rom and same Radio as original, I just wondering if u can du like this:confused:

[sbrani]

Don't worry guys :-) I bricked several times now the radio rom . It's just that it is then extra work. I will keep you updated, as soon I have news, for now I can't see anymore those "upgrading" tools. I will try it again tomorrow.

[pof]

you where able to unbrick because you had HardSPL, but now you have SPL-1.04 which will not allow you to flash unsigned code.

[sbrani]

By the way, did anybody have experience with HTC or better to say HTC Serivce Providers. As far as I know I have to send it to Teleservice in Germany. Are they realy checking the installed rom ? Thanks for the info.

[sbrani]

Ok, I made it finally, I will post exactly how I did it, maybe it helps someone who will be in the same situation.
Thanks once again, great SUPPORT !!

[Flyby]

Hi there,
Hi Sbrani, I'm in the exactly same situation: HTC TYTN (Orange France) without speaker... and needing to go to french HTC support.

I upgraded both ROM and Radio to the latest versions following step by step the tutorial found here and on mr (???) on its website (very well done by the way).

Sbrani, Please could you help me to restore as you did, my factory defaults?

Regards
Fly

[sbrani]

Can you give more facts ? Pls look into my first thread and put down the infos. Thx

[sbrani]

Ok here we go this is how I solved this issue.
First you need to understand the difference between a normal SPL
and the modified SPls, which you can get here:

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=296722
A standard SPL will not accept any unsigned code !

In case you bricked it already look here :-) :

http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Unbrick

1. you need to figure out, which radio rom matches your rom you want to flash, otherwise you end up with a bricked radio rom or even totally bricked,
if you have a standard SPL.

2.Please check it here:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Upgrades
for the roms
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_ExtractedRadioRoms
for the radio roms

3.Looking at my ROM, which I needed I flashed 1.10 - Olipro SPL - based on 1.04,
I flashed it by using SSPL.

4.I flashed then the needed the radio rom
which was Radio upgrade only using CustomRUU 4.3 V 1.38.30.10

5.I used then Custom RUU Updater flashing the needed rom,
but without the included radio rom.

Costum RUU Updater you can find here:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_CustomRUU

extracting and modifying is explained here:
http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=22&Itemid=27
actually it is an how to downgrade from WM6 to WM6.

Please have a close look on how to extract the rom and how to create a
costum rom, which will fit your needs. The self made rom,
should then include the original IPL and SPL loader.

I finally used again SSPL to flash the self cooked rom.

Sorry if the guide is not very precise or not correct at all !!
Everybody is welcome to correct me and to finetune this guide.

LAST BUT NOT LEAST, please read the HERMES WIKI, it was a great help for me !!

[Flyby]

You deserve a Very Very Warm thank you!

I'll try all you advised me this week-end.

Regards,
FlY

[joej]

it's very good already. i think you should get it incorporated into MrVanx's guide as a downgrade for servicing section :)

[jonfitt]

Thanks for your guide sbrani, I have not had to downgrade yet, but it something that is in the back of my mind as I know it will be very difficult if I ever need to.

I would also second the comment that I would be very grateful to MrVanx if he wrote a general guide on how to return to factory condition , as it is much more involved than upgrading. It's one thing to flash a phone, a totally different thing to customise a ROM update in order to only flash a specified portion.

[abubasim]

@sbrani:

What version is your radio ROM at now? 1.03.03.10 or 1.38.30.10?

[sbrani]

@abubasim

I have now radio ROM 1.38.30.10 running, since when trying to have the original one, which was 1.03.03.10, I always ended up with a bricked radio
rom, not matter what boot loader I had running, I had 1.04 installed and
1.06 ( this was hell, since had to restore the HTC the hard way ... platform builder :-) ) and all other modified SPls.

But if you have suggestions on how to get there, please let me know.
After all it is not realy logical for me, that I cannot flash the original
rom completely.

Maybe you can enlighten me :-)))

[pof]

But if you have suggestions on how to get there, please let me know.
After all it is not realy logical for me, that I cannot flash the original
rom completely.

Maybe you can enlighten me :-)))

We have already told you at the begining of the thread. See the wiki radios page, see the column htc_boot. I'm going to explain it again, hope this time is more clear:


If your device has htc_boot 0106 you can flash any radio version, htc_boot will be updated to the one on the radio you're flashing.


If your device has htc_boot 0107 you can flash any radio version, htc_boot will be updated to the one on the radio you're flashing, if you flash any radio with htc_boot 0106 it will be downgraded.


If your device has htc_boot 0108 you can flash only radios with htc_boot 0107 and 0108, and only in NBH form (no more NBF) in SPL versions >= 1.09 (this does not include 1.10.oli which is based on 1.04) and:

If the radio you are flashing has htc_boot 0108 there will be no problem
If the radio you are flashing has htc_boot 0107, your htc_boot will not be downgraded, it will still be 0108, but the radio will work without problems
If the radio you are flashing has htc_boot 0106, you will get a "No GSM" error, the radio functions will be completely disabled, the radio will not be able to report the right CID to the SPL, your device will not boot, you will not be able to unbrick it unless you have HardSPL installed or your OS rom has KITL.



Hope it's clear now, maybe we should add this to the wiki? :confused:

[sbrani]

THIS IS A CLEAR YES ! Please add it to the Wiki, since I am not the type of guy, who is just too lazy to read things :-). It is realy difficult for a beginner.

Anyway it is now a little bit clearer again, but I do not want to drive you crazy with this. :-))))