7501 Listed on Amazon - Available August 1, 2007

[olliesshop]

I'm not sure when this showed up on Amazon, but it's been in the last couple of days. I've heard that Amazon was going to be the first distributor of the 7501 in the U.S. and it looks like it will be available August 1st. Here's the link to the listing ... http://www.amazon.com/HTC-Advantage-Unlocked/dp/B000OQGG6M/ref=pd_bbs_1/102-7320466-3318543?ie=UTF8&s=wireless&qid=1178972918&sr=8-1

We can't order it yet, but can you can sign up for an email when it becomes available.

[tomchap]

Thats good news for you guys in the US. Should hopefully mean more accessories will start to be released as it appears people are slow on the uptake with tmanufacturing acessories for the Advantage as there isnt too much to choose from.

Also hopefully will mean Windows Mobile 6 for the rest of us Ameo / Advantage owners who are on Windows Mobile 5! I dont mind waiting till August! :)

[southernint3l]

Actually after reading the link you posted.That is the X7500 and Amazon will not be the only organisation selling this device.David of Mad Monkey boy gadgets will have the device on hand when it is released.

[olliesshop]

It looks like the pictures are of the 7500, since it has the webcamera on the front. Although, in the text it clearly states it's "Powered by Microsoft Windows Mobile 6", which is the key differentiator for the 7501 vs. 7500. I think Amazon just used standard "stock photos" for the ad, just to get it up. If I can get a 7500 with WM6 then I'm all for it, but I don't believe that's offered anywhere yet. What's everyone else think?

Also, thanks for mentioning Mad Monkey Boy Gadgets. Does anyone else have any recommendations of where the X7501 will be available? I don't have any particular allegiance to Amazon, so I would welcome some price competition.

[wu5262]

It looks like the pictures are of the 7500, since it has the webcamera on the front. Although, in the text it clearly states it's "Powered by Microsoft Windows Mobile 6", which is the key differentiator for the 7501 vs. 7500. I think Amazon just used standard "stock photos" for the ad, just to get it up. If I can get a 7500 with WM6 then I'm all for it, but I don't believe that's offered anywhere yet. What's everyone else think?

Also, thanks for mentioning Mad Monkey Boy Gadgets. Does anyone else have any recommendations of where the X7501 will be available? I don't have any particular allegiance to Amazon, so I would welcome some price competition.

actually, i see no points of getting the HTX X7501 if you can get X7500. There will be official WM6 update for X7500, it has been confirm and announce already.
So which one will you get? x7500 with front camera and WM6 and you don't need to wait, or x7501 with no front camera with WM6 but you have to wait?

I am still trying to figure out what is there even a X7501, my internal contact in HTC can not answer it, and the best guess is x7501 is target for US market only, but hey, x7500 is also being sold in US now.

[olliesshop]

The only reasons I was waiting was to get a fresh WM6 build and to make sure it works with AT&T 3G 1900Hz. I was without my Universal for about 3 months after a disasterous official i-mate ROM upgrade. I ended up having to get a new "mother board" for it in the end and it seemed like an eternity. Evidently the board was faulty and it got locked on the splash screen.

Although, if you think the X7500 is better (with the front camera), the WM6 upgrade will go smoothly and it works on the U.S. 3G 1900Hz AT&T 3G network, I may go ahead and get the 7500. I sure don't want to wait if I don't have to.

Thank you very much for your insight.

[wu5262]

The only reasons I was waiting was to get a fresh WM6 build and to make sure it works with AT&T 3G 1900Hz. I was without my Universal for about 3 months after a disasterous official i-mate ROM upgrade. I ended up having to get a new "mother board" for it in the end and it seemed like an eternity. Evidently the board was faulty and it got locked on the splash screen.

Although, if you think the X7500 is better (with the front camera), the WM6 upgrade will go smoothly and it works on the U.S. 3G 1900Hz AT&T 3G network, I may go ahead and get the 7500. I sure don't want to wait if I don't have to.

Thank you very much for your insight.

i am 95% sure it will work in US (some people are already using x7500 in US, you can ask them). And yes WM6 update will run smoothly on x7500 too. So yes, i think x7500 is better. You see, the point is US is not suppose to have x7500 for sell, but some people import it therefore it's now available for buy too. Therefore it's no point waiting x7501.

Bare in mind the reason why x7501 take off front camera is the network in US doesn't allow video call, but hey, you can still use it for taking picture of yourself :)

[eagle 1]

Yes, it does work on the Cingular 3g network. As a matter of fact, it works great. No issues at all on the cingular 3g network.

[lbarouf]

Doesn't allow video telephony... unfortunatly true. The network is provisioned, sites are being added regularly and SUDs work fine. If you can manage to have someone add the SOCs for you or in some cases write the proper class on your SIM, you can use it. Why oh why marketing chooses not to turn on the switch. Market is ready to pay to use the service, and network deployed should suffice to the extra load. Most sites have enough bandwith to sustain data connection over 3G and video telephony. *sigh* why are northamerican GSM service providers so behind in the offering? Devices, services... I'm moving back to hong kong! Hutchison isn't bad at all in comparison now.

i am 95% sure it will work in US (some people are already using x7500 in US, you can ask them). And yes WM6 update will run smoothly on x7500 too. So yes, i think x7500 is better. You see, the point is US is not suppose to have x7500 for sell, but some people import it therefore it's now available for buy too. Therefore it's no point waiting x7501.

Bare in mind the reason why x7501 take off front camera is the network in US doesn't allow video call, but hey, you can still use it for taking picture of yourself :)

[olliesshop]

That's great news that it definitely works on the Cingular/AT&T 3G network. I've had horrible reception on my Universal ever since they transitioned to 3G in January. I think Cingular re-prioritized their towers to 3G and left the 2G/GSM network with less bandwidth ... and I can't use the 3G since the Universal 3G is the 2100Hz European version.

Does anyone have a source you would recommend for the HTC version (in Black) for the US? I bought my XDAII and Universal from overseas and I would sure like to buy from the U.S. this time, if possible.

Finally, as anyone heard firm timing on an official HTC WM6 upgrade? Sorry for being a little paranoid, but ever since I turned my Universal into a brick last year I've gotten a little squeamish on doing ROM upgrades.

Thank you all again for the help. I'm hoping others in the U.S. are in my position are reading this and will also benefit from this thread.

[wu5262]

That's great news that it definitely works on the Cingular/AT&T 3G network. I've had horrible reception on my Universal ever since they transitioned to 3G in January. I think Cingular re-prioritized their towers to 3G and left the 2G/GSM network with less bandwidth ... and I can't use the 3G since the Universal 3G is the 2100Hz European version.

Does anyone have a source you would recommend for the HTC version (in Black) for the US? I bought my XDAII and Universal from overseas and I would sure like to buy from the U.S. this time, if possible.

Finally, as anyone heard firm timing on an official HTC WM6 upgrade? Sorry for being a little paranoid, but ever since I turned my Universal into a brick last year I've gotten a little squeamish on doing ROM upgrades.

Thank you all again for the help. I'm hoping others in the U.S. are in my position are reading this and will also benefit from this thread.

wm6 update will be available in about 2 months

[lennyfl]

I bought mine from

http://www.dweiniger.com/

[Nara-e-Mastana]

which one? 7501?

[Moskus]

http://www.dweiniger.com/
Worst... webdesign... ever...
;)


Which one? 7501?
Couldn't be, it's not out yet. Or am I lost?

[olliesshop]

As an update, I ended up buying an X7501 (opps ... meant X7500) through eBay (http://www.phonesource-usa.com/cell-phone-555-cheap/HTC-Advantage-X7500---Plus-FREE-2GB-miniSD.php).

I just got it a couple of hours ago and all I can say is this completely blows my Universal out of the water !!! I've just done the basic setups for now, but everything went so smoothly. The screen is wonderful and I actually like the keyboard better in some ways. I could go on an on, but that's for another thread/post. I just wanted to thank you all for the guidance ... great advice !!!

[eagle 1]

As an update, I ended up buying an X7501 through eBay (http://www.phonesource-usa.com/cell-phone-555-cheap/HTC-Advantage-X7500---Plus-FREE-2GB-miniSD.php).

I just got it a couple of hours ago and all I can say is this completely blows my Universal out of the water !!! I've just done the basic setups for now, but everything went so smoothly. The screen is wonderful and I actually like the keyboard better in some ways. I could go on an on, but that's for another thread/post. I just wanted to thank you all for the guidance ... great advice !!!

I believe you mean a X7500, the x7501 comes with Windows Mobile 6 and is not released yet...But yea, I love my x7500 too!

[djsell@earthlink.net]

hi guys/gals,

just to verify olliesshop, is it the 7500-wm-5 or 7501-wm-6 that you received ?

i,m just down i-94 in ann arbor and had my jasjar up until a few months ago, but it seemed slow and had to be reset regularly, and reception for the phone and data was quite slow, not to mention the poor camera.

ahhhhhhhhh but now that i have the trion, i really do miss that vga screen!

anyway please let us know which version you have,and does it have the front video camera ?, price you paid and how quickly did you receive it ?

thanks,

djsell

[olliesshop]

First, yes it was the X7500, sorry for the typo.

Second, it came with WM5 and I expect to upgrade to WM6 in a couple months, along with all the other X7500 owners. Also, it does have the front video camera. I bought it through good old eBay. Here's the link to the item ... http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=ADME:B:EOIBSAA:US:11&Item=220111572595. My research showed only a few X7500 retailers, so I went to eBay to check out the one's sold there. This one seemed like the best deal and they where based in the U.S. (Las Vegas). I called them up and they seemed nice so I went with them ... http://www.phonesource-usa.com/cell-phone-555-cheap/HTC-Advantage-X7500---Plus-FREE-2GB-miniSD.php. So far, it's still an incredible machine compared to my Jasjar.

The only 2 minor problems I have so far:
1. The clear part of the keyboard is getting scratched from the "sharp metal" edge of the screen. It's slightly poud of the black case so it scrapes the clear part as it slides over it. So my plan is to wait until there's no interference (after it's worn all the way down) and polish the clear plastic.

2. There's no place to put the keyboard when you just want to use the main part of the device. So I end up putting in my pocket. I assumed it would magnetically attach to the back of the device, but it doesn't seem to.

Overall summary ... I was waiting for the Omni, but it seems like it's turning out to be vaporware or at least not available until late this year. This was clearly the right decision. The Cingular/AT&T 3G works flawlessly in Grosse Pointe, where my Jasjar could barely get a signal anyware after they introduced 3G. The large screen is awesome compared to the Jasjar. I could go on and on, but I will be having tonnes of fun with with for a while.

[getwet]

i got mine about 2 weeks ago. have a problem when i make calls it drops the call before it rings sometimes i have to send 3 times in a row before the call goes through. also i can receive text messages but i can't send them. not sure if its the x7500 or the sim card on both problems.
other than these issues this thing is great im in grosse ile mi. and my reception is good
had verizon and recetion here was bad
waiting for the rom ugrade

if anyone has any ideas for thes problems please post
thank you

[apphoen]

i got mine about 2 weeks ago. have a problem when i make calls it drops the call before it rings sometimes i have to send 3 times in a row before the call goes through. also i can receive text messages but i can't send them. not sure if its the x7500 or the sim card on both problems.
other than these issues this thing is great im in grosse ile mi. and my reception is good
had verizon and recetion here was bad
waiting for the rom ugrade

if anyone has any ideas for thes problems please post
thank you

For your SMS problem; Did you set your SMS centre number in your phone settings?

If you just installed the SIM card after getting the unit then your SMS and Voicemail numbers need to be entered in the phone settings.

[getwet]

For your SMS problem; Did you set your SMS centre number in your phone settings?

If you just installed the SIM card after getting the unit then your SMS and Voicemail numbers need to be entered in the phone settings.

they auto load with the sim card
talked to tech support at htc eu and the suggested a hard reset (clear memory) this worked for the text messaging.
just did this a little while ago so i don't know if it fixed the dropping of the calls
thank you

[getwet]

they auto load with the sim card
talked to tech support at htc eu and the suggested a hard reset (clear memory) this worked for the text messaging.
just did this a little while ago so i don't know if it fixed the dropping of the calls
thank you

by the way while talking to tech support they said the new rom (6.0) will be available for download on the htc euro site around the second week of june

[LTxda]

by the way while talking to tech support they said the new rom (6.0) will be available for download on the htc euro site around the second week of june

SWEET! I can't wait. Once it's available we need to put notices up. :-)

[jsosow]

I know this is going to sound like a dumb question but if cingular doesn't offer the phone in your area or even in the US, how do you get it to work on there network, and how does it work with the billing from Cingular. I am thinking about buying one. Live in central Us and have cingular and want to make sure that I don't buy something I can't use.

Thanks in advance for any input.

[LTxda]

I know this is going to sound like a dumb question but if cingular doesn't offer the phone in your area or even in the US, how do you get it to work on there network, and how does it work with the billing from Cingular. I am thinking about buying one. Live in central Us and have cingular and want to make sure that I don't buy something I can't use.

Thanks in advance for any input.

If you purchase an unlocked phone, you can take the SIM chip out of your cingular phone and put it into the new phone and it'll autoconfigure. Now, not all things will be automatically configured. For example, I'm on TMobile. I purchased an HTC Advantage/7500. I had to manually configure Internet and a few other features. I also had to manually change the phone's band. This freaked me out a little because my phone wouldn't come on after I first purchased the device but after thinking it through I figured out it was a band issue on the phone settings.

I can take this phone and put a Cingular/AT&T SIM chip into it and it'll start working with few adjustments.

I purchased three unlocked phones here: http://egadgetdepot.com

[getwet]

If you purchase an unlocked phone, you can take the SIM chip out of your cingular phone and put it into the new phone and it'll autoconfigure. Now, not all things will be automatically configured. For example, I'm on TMobile. I purchased an HTC Advantage/7500. I had to manually configure Internet and a few other features. I also had to manually change the phone's band. This freaked me out a little because my phone wouldn't come on after I first purchased the device but after thinking it through I figured out it was a band issue on the phone settings.

I can take this phone and put a Cingular/AT&T SIM chip into it and it'll start working with few adjustments.

I purchased three unlocked phones here: http://egadgetdepot.com


im with cingular and he is correct
you just put in the sim and your phone works
you do need to change some settings to get internet but its quite easy
most retailers will have a pdf which has all the info you need

[getwet]

is anyone out there haveing a similar problem???:(
every 3rd or 4th call i make, i have to resend the call 2 to 5 times before it executes the call. sometimes i get 3 tones not allways and then a call ended message, where the call never connected. this happens with the bluetooth send as well as the screen send and the keyboard send button. it happens when i have 1,2,3 or 4 bars of signal strength. i have done a soft reset, a hard reset and changed the sim card, all to no avail any ideas would be appreciated

[wu5262]

is anyone out there haveing a similar problem???:(
every 3rd or 4th call i make, i have to resend the call 2 to 5 times before it executes the call. sometimes i get 3 tones not allways and then a call ended message, where the call never connected. this happens with the bluetooth send as well as the screen send and the keyboard send button. it happens when i have 1,2,3 or 4 bars of signal strength. i have done a soft reset, a hard reset and changed the sim card, all to no avail any ideas would be appreciated

are u connected to 3G at the same time?

[olliesshop]

I figured you might want to hear another person say Cingular works fine. I'm in Michigan and the 3G works great in the Detroit area. In fact I'm writing this post on my X7500. I was bummed with my Jasjar, since it wouldn't work on the US 2100hz 3G, but the X7500 has the best reception I've ever had. I just moved my SIM card from my Jasjar.

[eaglesteve]

they auto load with the sim card
talked to tech support at htc eu and the suggested a hard reset (clear memory) this worked for the text messaging.
just did this a little while ago so i don't know if it fixed the dropping of the calls
thank you

I'm still having problem sending out text messages, and have almost forgotten about this problem until I read your post. Gee.. another hard reset. So many weeks of work at risk of being lost. Someone has warned against using Sprite Backup.

Is the a reliable backup software that will restore the entire lots of software after a hard reset?

[getwet]

I'm still having problem sending out text messages, and have almost forgotten about this problem until I read your post. Gee.. another hard reset. So many weeks of work at risk of being lost. Someone has warned against using Sprite Backup.

Is the a reliable backup software that will restore the entire lots of software after a hard reset?

spb backup works great

[getwet]

are u connected to 3G at the same time?

sometimes 3g other times not sometimes 4 bars of signal strength some times less it dosen't seem to matter

does anyone have this problem

sometimes i have to send a call 3,4,5 times before it will dial and connect
it said dialing each time i send a call but disconnects befor it rings send again same thing then on the 3rd or 4th or 5th try it connects

[getwet]

sometimes 3g other times not sometimes 4 bars of signal strength some times less it dosen't seem to matter

does anyone have this problem

sometimes i have to send a call 3,4,5 times before it will dial and connect
it said dialing each time i send a call but disconnects befor it rings send again same thing then on the 3rd or 4th or 5th try it connects

if ou are asking if i am online on the 3g while triing to mak a call then no