Why use WM6 over WM5?

[DaVince]

I've tried quite a few of the WM6 ROMS (The only ones I haven't tried was Ivan's and Darkforce's). But I always see myself going back to WM5 (mostly because I miss video calling). Is it just me? or is there something about WM6 that I'm not seeing? This question is much like Windows XP vs Windows Vista... I just couldn't see any reason to use Vista.

Anyone kind enough to site the major differences or advantages between the two? (except for aesthetics, of course)



I know I could just google for comparison charts or something.. but I prefer various "user opinions" So please don't point me here: WM5 vs WM6 chart (http://blogs.msdn.com/jasonlan/attachment/1904298.ashx)... besides, it's not very accurate since most cooked WM5 ROMS does have a few added features.

[aniel1]

I've tried quite a few of the WM6 ROMS (The only ones I haven't tried was Ivan's and Darkforce's). But I always see myself going back to WM5 (mostly because I miss video calling). Is it just me? or is there something about WM6 that I'm not seeing? This question is much like Windows XP vs Windows Vista... I just couldn't see any reason to use Vista.

Anyone kind enough to site the major differences or advantages between the two? (except for aesthetics, of course)



I know I could just google for comparison charts or something.. but I prefer various "user opinions" So please don't point me here: WM5 vs WM6 chart (http://blogs.msdn.com/jasonlan/attachment/1904298.ashx)... besides, it's not very accurate since most cooked WM5 ROMS does have a few added features.

I agree with you to some extent.
In my opinion wm5 is much stable and made for the universal device that we all have.
Wm6 is not compatible and a beta app. Video call is part of the hardware and with wm6 , in-directly we have terminated that, in other words the world moves towards 3G/umts and we have made our devices fall back to 2G with wm6 crossbow which doesnot have video call.

Also its like driving hard to make wm6 perfect , which will never happen.
Its just like using a car and trying to put in a engine that is not compatible.
So I think uni devices is directly proportional to wm5. Period! ;)

[TehPenguin]

The reason I use WM6 over WM5 is this:


I love tweaking and messing around with my Universal
I'm not afraid of "bricking" it or having to reflash\loose data
I am hoping (sometimes I think, its a false hope...) that a WM6 ROM will be superior to my old WM5 one
Why the hell not?


Like I've said before - this is a forum for developers\hackers\tweakers, if you want a perfect ROM - look to your manufacturer. If you want to have some fun with your Universal (and void its warranty) then look no further!

[2da-xs]

The reason I use WM6 over WM5 is this:


I love tweaking and messing around with my Universal
I'm not afraid of "bricking" it or having to reflash\loose data
I am hoping (sometimes I think, its a false hope...) that a WM6 ROM will be superior to my old WM5 one
Why the hell not?


Like I've said before - this is a forum for developers\hackers\tweakers, if you want a perfect ROM - look to your manufacturer. If you want to have some fun with your Universal (and void its warranty) then look no further!


What he said ;)

[Carnivor]

ditto ditto

[cottinghamm]

I've tried quite a few of the WM6 ROMS (The only ones I haven't tried was Ivan's and Darkforce's). But I always see myself going back to WM5 (mostly because I miss video calling). Is it just me? or is there something about WM6 that I'm not seeing? This question is much like Windows XP vs Windows Vista... I just couldn't see any reason to use Vista.

Anyone kind enough to site the major differences or advantages between the two? (except for aesthetics, of course)



I know I could just google for comparison charts or something.. but I prefer various "user opinions" So please don't point me here: WM5 vs WM6 chart (http://blogs.msdn.com/jasonlan/attachment/1904298.ashx)... besides, it's not very accurate since most cooked WM5 ROMS does have a few added features.

There are a couple of apps that I find very useful, the new RDP client is much better & I use that a lot, Internet Sharing is a great tool for connecting to the Internet from my laptop on the move. The upgrade to the Office apps to support Office 2007 documents will help people who move to Off2007, but even though I use it I still save my files in Off2003 format so that the rest of the world can read them.

Apart from that I am sticking with WM5 for now because I need something that works more reliably.

[kdskamal]

I have reverted back to WM5 just after using the WM6 on universal for ~1h everytime. Reason: Its slow as compared to WM5(yeah, ironic :p) and few unfixed bugs

But, what I love about WM6..

1)progress bar in Office apps. I love it when it shows the progress while opeing my big word document containing plethora of pics.
2)no 'unidentified driver' problem: many of us were getting this problem under wm5. I didn't experience it under wm6 under that 1h span though ;) (my solution to that problem in WM5: as long as you use wisbar advance2, you will NEVER experience that problem)
3)glossy looks :) (though I still prefer wisbar advance)(see the screenshot attatched)
4)better phone integration

On the other hand, I m using WM6 on my wizard and its perfect :)

[img=http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/370/kamalxa8.th.png] (http://img510.imageshack.us/my.php?image=kamalxa8.png)

[NiTeSHiFT]

Well, I don't want to switch back to WM5. Mainly for those reasons:

1/ I don't use video Calling because NO ONE from my about 700 contacts has video calling capabilites (that's Germany ;-)

2/ The new RDP-Client is REALLY great and I use it often to connect to my Server

3/ The Messaging features like "instant search" is for me one of the most important, as I use the universal to write about 20 eMails per Day and take notes when i'm at my customers.

4/ (I know you don't want to read it ;-) The nicer looking

5/ My Universal is much faster with WM6 (not with all releases though) as with the original WM5 ROMs.

6/ The Original T-Mobile WM5 ROM is UGLY AS HELL ;-)

7/ I forgot: The Call-List in the corresponding Contact is another great Feature :-)

If I can think of anything more, I'll tell you :-)

[nispen]

I find WM6 faster and - unlike some posters - much MUCH more stable.

[PaulMdx]

I love tweaking and messing around with my Universal
I'm not afraid of "bricking" it or having to reflash\loose data
I am hoping (sometimes I think, its a false hope...) that a WM6 ROM will be superior to my old WM5 one
Why the hell not?

I too have been used such reasoning. Unfortunately after a while I came to the realisation that it was a false hope and went back to WM5.

That said, one reason to use WM6 is that the contacts app can query the DirectPush active directory to get Exchange contact details.

[dunkelfalke]

I find WM6 faster and - unlike some posters - much MUCH more stable.

same here. german wm5 is unusable, slow as hell and buggy.

[Ogier]

Hi,

I'm using WM6 (LVSW's ROM 2007-05-19) at the moment, mainly because I bought an Imate JasJam (Australian Telstra network) but use it on our "3" network and I didn't want to install the 3 Dopod ROM.

I did remove the Telstra customisations, but then lost Video call.
With LVSW's ROM, I now have video call back - Why do you say you don't have video calls in WM6????

I like to play with devices too!

Benifits so far (48 hours use) no freezes, a little faster, nicer looking & navigation plus there's a few new options but I'm not sure if they are useful to me.

Bad points - less memory storage & everyone at work is asking me about WM6!

:)

Cheers! Oggy.

p.s. look further at video calls - it works for me!

[cktlcmd]

Hi,

I did remove the Telstra customisations, but then lost Video call.
With LVSW's ROM, I now have video call back - Why do you say you don't have video calls in WM6????

:)

Cheers! Oggy.

p.s. look further at video calls - it works for me!

REALLY??? Can you please give us more details as how you manage that? Links are good too.

[CWKJ]

WM5? Which AKU you are you talking about?

Here, the official WM5 release is AKU2, which is so slow that you can zZzZz.

For Cooked ROM, WM5 is up to AKU3.5 which is the one I am using, is with Video Call and fast.

WM6 still does not have video call, but there is a beta VideoCall cab which you can try, some works, some doesn't.

WM6 speed compare to WM5 AKU3.5, speed difference is marginal, but both are definitely faster than WM5 AKU1 & WM AKU2. But for WM6 to be slower than WM5, hmmm, how could this possible.

[DJ NETWORX]

german t-mobile wm5 rom is quite unstable and unreliable. Some programs doesn't work at all on t-mobile wm5 roms (like cLaunch - ok, I know stupid example because cLaunch doesn't support vga resolutions at all... but it was the first application that came to my mind :rolleyes: )

I'm satisfied with the functionality of wm6 roms. there is just one thing I don't like about it - how can I change the keyboard layout of an english rom? I would like to have an english rom but with the layout of a german keyboard - any ideas how to do that?

[TehPenguin]

Hi,

I'm using WM6 (LVSW's ROM 2007-05-19) at the moment, mainly because I bought an Imate JasJam (Australian Telstra network) but use it on our "3" network and I didn't want to install the 3 Dopod ROM.

I did remove the Telstra customisations, but then lost Video call.
With LVSW's ROM, I now have video call back - Why do you say you don't have video calls in WM6????

I like to play with devices too!

Benifits so far (48 hours use) no freezes, a little faster, nicer looking & navigation plus there's a few new options but I'm not sure if they are useful to me.

Bad points - less memory storage & everyone at work is asking me about WM6!

:)

Cheers! Oggy.

p.s. look further at video calls - it works for me!

One problem with that - we have the I-Mate JasJar not the JasJam
Not meaning to flame, but as clarification:

I-Mate JasJam - - - - - I-Mate JasJar
Dopod 838Pro - - - - - Dopod 900
O2 Xda Trion - - - - - - O2 Exec
HTC Hermes - - - - - - HTC Universal

So, your WM6 ROM is different to ours
(How do I know the above? Well, I work for 3 in Australia....:eek: )

[fla242]

hello,


I'm using Wm6 beta rom for testing exchange 2007 improvement with this os and there a lot of new features !!

like html mail format, Simplified Administration, Increased Monitoring and Flexible Policy Management ...

[DaVince]

Video call is part of the hardware and with wm6 , in-directly we have terminated that, in other words the world moves towards 3G/umts and we have made our devices fall back to 2G with wm6 crossbow which doesnot have video call.

If only there's video call on WM6.. i would stick to it... video calling is quite popular here.. my girlfriend has a 3G fone... so video calling is very important for me. :(

The reason I use WM6 over WM5 is this:


I love tweaking and messing around with my Universal
I'm not afraid of "bricking" it or having to reflash\loose data
I am hoping (sometimes I think, its a false hope...) that a WM6 ROM will be superior to my old WM5 one
Why the hell not?

Hehe! Me too.. :D

Internet Sharing is a great tool for connecting to the Internet from my laptop on the move.
This is also available for the WM5 (AKU3.3 and later) right?


2/ The new RDP-Client is REALLY great and I use it often to connect to my Server

3/ The Messaging features like "instant search" is for me one of the most important, as I use the universal to write about 20 eMails per Day and take notes when i'm at my customers.

2. Terminal Services can also do this right? though i don't really use it so I wouldn't know if it's better.
3. Oh yeah.. love that too.. way easier than scrolling through messages...

I find WM6 faster and - unlike some posters - much MUCH more stable.
Maybe you were using an old WM5. You must try WM5 AKU3.5 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=286036) or WM5 AKU3.5 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1263241&postcount=6).

I'm using WM6 (LVSW's ROM 2007-05-19) at the moment, mainly because I bought an Imate JasJam (Australian Telstra network)
We have Universals my friend, we are on the Universal thread. You have a Hermes...

WM5? Which AKU you are you talking about?
AKU3.3 and 3.5. The older ones are way too slow and crappy. :D

like html mail format, Simplified Administration, Increased Monitoring and Flexible Policy Management ...
Ah yes.. html mail format... very nice too. uhmm.. would you care to elaborate about Simplified Administration, Increased Monitoring and Flexible Policy Management? Thanks...

[cktlcmd]

If only there's video call on WM6.. i would stick to it... video calling is quite popular here.. my girlfriend has a 3G fone... so video calling is very important for me. :(
...

How popular is the Universal in Manila? Just curious... :D

[DaVince]

How popular is the Universal in Manila? Just curious... :D

Not very popular. :( Probably not more than 25 people owns a Universal in Manila.. and only 3-4 of them (including me) actually bothers to flash their ROMS since they're too scared.. :(

85% of cellphone users here use Nokia since Nokia devices (particularly the N series) have good 3G support. Most PPC devices seen here would be the Atom, XDA II/i, and Dopod 838 Pro.

3G is very good here.. and the reason I bought a Universal is because during the time I bought this (early 2006), this was the first PPC available that supports video calling... So please somebody make video calling work on WM6.. :beg:

[aniel1]

Guess what. Imate service center in my town is indirectly offering a wm5 upgrade. I went back to the original rom and thought let me just call the service center to ask if they had an upgrade?
They told me yes and its not on the clubimate site and only internally distributed and official.
So I went with my Jasjar to the imate center to get the upgrade.

After it was done and when I checked the specs I was shocked to sight Jwright's last wm5 rom 1.90.96 wwe; radio 1.13.00, protocol 42.47.P8, extn rom 1.95.05 wwe loaded on my device.

Looks like now Imate have got into a practice where their dealers/service centers are stealing cooked roms from xda site an d claiming it as official and providing it to end users.

I wonder Jwright knows about it/. This is becoming a nusiance.
Now my device is back to Jwright's earlier wm5 Aku3.2 version.

My whole time has got wasted. i could have done all that myself .

[stualpha]

does it do video calling?

[aniel1]

does it do video calling?

yes it does, its wm5 version.:)

[tailazoom]

Who is programming for wm3 anymore and after the flood of wm6 devices who will be programming for wm5?

[TehPenguin]

Who is programming for wm3 anymore and after the flood of wm6 devices who will be programming for wm5?

WM6 is the same "core" as WM5 (in the same way that Windows XP is based off Windows 2000). This is evident in that WM5 is version 5.0 and WM6 is version 5.2

Basically people will program for WM5 and it will work on WM6 (unless its an Über-hack that is specific for WM6 (eg the bubble fix))

[tailazoom]

SPB (diary) & SBSH (pocketbreeze) are trying to fix things for wm6 in their programs made for wm5.

[bigjezza]

fur me its da high res mode in IE.

[CWKJ]

Guess what. Imate service center in my town is indirectly offering a wm5 upgrade. I went back to the original rom and thought let me just call the service center to ask if they had an upgrade?
They told me yes and its not on the clubimate site and only internally distributed and official.
So I went with my Jasjar to the imate center to get the upgrade.

After it was done and when I checked the specs I was shocked to sight Jwright's last wm5 rom 1.90.96 wwe; radio 1.13.00, protocol 42.47.P8, extn rom 1.95.05 wwe loaded on my device.

Looks like now Imate have got into a practice where their dealers/service centers are stealing cooked roms from xda site an d claiming it as official and providing it to end users.

I wonder Jwright knows about it/. This is becoming a nusiance.
Now my device is back to Jwright's earlier wm5 Aku3.2 version.

My whole time has got wasted. i could have done all that myself .Maybe Jwright working in i-mate????? LOL!!!

[kdskamal]

fur me its da high res mode in IE.

It is also there in the helmi aku3.5.1 rom :P

[aniel1]

Maybe Jwright working in i-mate????? LOL!!!

looks like it :)

[tailazoom]

Maybe Jwright working in i-mate????? LOL!!!

He made version specific for several other brands.

[cktlcmd]

Guess what.

I wonder Jwright knows about it/. This is becoming a nusiance.
Now my device is back to Jwright's earlier wm5 Aku3.2 version.

My whole time has got wasted. i could have done all that myself .

I don't mind if the ROMs came from JWright. I just don't like the fact that JWright is not getting the monetary benefit he deserves, now that they are claiming it to be OFFICIAL.

[aniel1]

I don't mind if the ROMs came from JWright. I just don't like the fact that JWright is not getting the monetary benefit he deserves, now that they are claiming it to be OFFICIAL.

I agree with you.But Jwright got to know what is happening, unless he is aware.:rolleyes:

[DaVince]

I agree with you.But Jwright got to know what is happening, unless he is aware.:rolleyes:

I haven't seen jwright for a while.. omg! he's been captured by imate! :shock:

[CWKJ]

I haven't seen jwright for a while.. omg! he's been captured by imate! :shock:Do we need to report to the police for kidnap...!!! :D

[hoanglong]

well i dont know if its me or wm6 but...

Phone app is much quicker, though the only down side is video calls, the new addressbook intergrated with the phone app is much better than the crappy smart dialing which lags the phone app down.

over all with midget's rom everything just works great, very little lag even though with tons of app installed compared to my previous wm5 jwright rom.

[tin2404]

well,after a lot of tested ROMs,which results with damage to my first Uni,I always get back to old WM5...the most reason is that all ROM cookers puts a lot of unneccessery useless "shit stuff" in their cooked ROMs..WM 5 is clean enough to satisfy stabillity and all needs.

[orb3000]

I removed my original ROM the day after I recieve my Uni back in 2005, and since that first reflashing I never came back to wm5, all the ROM´s I´ve tested (More than 12) were very good
Now I´m using Tomal ROM´s and I can say that they are MUCH better than any original shipped ROM, they are stable and fast!!
The only thing I miss from wm5 is the VC, but anyway in my country we do not have the service.

Just my opinion

[Tahmaseeb]

I removed my original ROM the day after I recieve my Uni back in 2005, and since that first reflashing I never came back to wm5, all the ROM´s I´ve tested (More than 12) were very good
Now I´m using Tomal ROM´s and I can say that they are MUCH better than any original shipped ROM, they are stable and fast!!
The only thing I miss from wm5 is the VC, but anyway in my country we do not have the service.

Just my opinion

i agree...i used wm5 for 1 year before i switched to wm6.....of all the roms i tested i always thought jwright's n tomal's wm6.1 roms were as stable n as fast as the original wm5 rom n didnt have a moment of doubt that wm5 is better then wm6. then again its all bout ppls prospactive just because some of use like wm6 better then wm5 doent mean that everyone will agree with it.