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mikegoldnj
25th May 2007, 06:08 PM
Thinking about a change in form factor and trying out the Vox but I'd like to hear some experiences of anyone who went from Hermes/touchscreen to smartphone format.

I'd love to wait for the rumored 'wings' S730 but not sure that will ever see daylight.

pinussen
25th May 2007, 06:18 PM
I had the TyTN via my employer for a few months, but had to return it when I left that job. Got a S710 and I actually like that more than the tytn. I thought I would miss the touch screen but the vox is so easy to navigate that it's no problem.

rgards Björn

anitanium
25th May 2007, 07:02 PM
i have both the TyTN (cingular 8525) and the Vox in my hands.
I had the TyTN first as a replacement for my treo 600.
The TyTN is a wonderful device, but a bit too much for what I use it for (I dont even use data, so 3G doesn't matter to me). I mostly use WiFi for the occasional browse.
The TyTN definitely has a larger customization factor, which i miss with the Vox.

I thought speed would be a definite difference, but if you use OmapClock to ~250Mhz, it's a significant increase in performance.
Video playback works real nicely with TCPMP on the Vox too. Some video's i don't even need to convert. It may not be as powerful as the TyTN, but it's sufficient for my needs.

I like the Vox formfactor a bit better. The slider is much more secure, and the numeric keypad is something i missed on the TyTN.

Sometimes i catch myself tapping the Vox, forgetting there isn't a touchscreen, but the menu's and programs are very smartphone friendly, and I haven't had any problems navigating menu's as yet.

and for some reason, the screen on the Vox seems a bit nicer than on the TyTN. could be because the TyTN has the same resolution, but larger size, so it doesn't look as sharp.

i'm keeping the Vox, anyone want a TyTN?

mikegoldnj
25th May 2007, 08:50 PM
i have both the TyTN (cingular 8525) and the Vox in my hands.
I had the TyTN first as a replacement for my treo 600.
The TyTN is a wonderful device, but a bit too much for what I use it for (I dont even use data, so 3G doesn't matter to me). I mostly use WiFi for the occasional browse.
The TyTN definitely has a larger customization factor, which i miss with the Vox.

I thought speed would be a definite difference, but if you use OmapClock to ~250Mhz, it's a significant increase in performance.
Video playback works real nicely with TCPMP on the Vox too. Some video's i don't even need to convert. It may not be as powerful as the TyTN, but it's sufficient for my needs.

I like the Vox formfactor a bit better. The slider is much more secure, and the numeric keypad is something i missed on the TyTN.

Sometimes i catch myself tapping the Vox, forgetting there isn't a touchscreen, but the menu's and programs are very smartphone friendly, and I haven't had any problems navigating menu's as yet.

and for some reason, the screen on the Vox seems a bit nicer than on the TyTN. could be because the TyTN has the same resolution, but larger size, so it doesn't look as sharp.

i'm keeping the Vox, anyone want a TyTN?

How does it compare, size wise, to the Hermes?

anitanium
25th May 2007, 09:37 PM
the tytn is a giant compared to it
its much lighter than the tytn, i barely notice it on my waist holster
about 1cm shorter and 1.5cm slimmer

about the same thickness though

i can take some pictures when i get home

GTAfinest
26th May 2007, 12:42 AM
I had both a Wizard and a Tytn before I bought this device.

Those are more of PDAs that can be used for phones calls.
This is more of a PHONE that can be used from some PDA functions.

I see the Hermes and Vox in 2 totally different categorys.


BUT

I do miss touch screen, and I miss the SPEED...
My vox seems really SLOW AND LAGGING! Does anyone else have this problem????? Is there some fix i need to add or a certain ROM I need to install to make the run smoother??

The complaints I have about this device is its performance! I also find it is alot harder to type with a substanitally smaller keyboard. As well, WHY DOES IT SLIDE OUT "THE WRONG WAY"????? And no flashlight for the camera.

anitanium
26th May 2007, 01:31 AM
use OMAPCLOCK to overclock the vox
i notice a substantial difference, especially when switching apps and playing videos, and landscape switch is faster too

and if you notice it lagging still, go to task manager and see what you have open

one thing about the tytn i liked is the ability actually CLOSE programs and free up ram, not have them suspended

mikegoldnj
26th May 2007, 02:52 PM
use OMAPCLOCK to overclock the vox
i notice a substantial difference, especially when switching apps and playing videos, and landscape switch is faster too

and if you notice it lagging still, go to task manager and see what you have open

one thing about the tytn i liked is the ability actually CLOSE programs and free up ram, not have them suspended


No X-Button for WM6 Standard?

lullog
27th May 2007, 10:34 AM
i switched from tytn to s710 too. only missing voice command DE on my vox, since ist is only avalible in english for smartphones.

S710 is more compact and better to use, due the normal phone keys. i like it more. the only bad thing is the 200 mhz cpu, which is not the fastest...

the battery lifetime is much better, even with data and bt switched on. I use data to sync my exchange 24/7

.

jcrompton
28th May 2007, 09:00 PM
I got my Vox a few days ago

Size difference between Vox and TyTn is like a Poodle compared to a Great Dane - huge difference. I'd never carry my TyTn in my pocket but I do my Vox easily.

Speed is a huge problem with my Vox but I will try to overclock.

Fiddle Factor - pain in the but but kinda fun changing the Home screen .xml files so you can get it the way you want it -- I had to modify to get GoodLink stuff while keeping PhoneAlarm running.

WiFi worked well at first glance - for some reason I had more trouble with my TyTN.

Many programs (that probably would be fine since I often don't use the touch screen) won't install on the Vox. Does anyone know how to easily "force" a PocketPC program on a Smartphone ?? (I haven't exhaustively searched that question so just ignore if the answer is obvious).

I'll keep you posted on my first week of use. I'll keep my TyTn in my briefcase.

Sun&Donuts
11th August 2007, 12:42 AM
No X-Button for WM6 Standard?
Hello everyone, I'm an 1-week-vox owner.
Generally speaking I like the device very much, altough I am having some difficulties adapting from palm to WM6, and I must say I am a bit disappointed with WM6, namelly it is very slow and, something I found soooo odd and (sorry for sincerity) stupid: programs don't actually close/terminate when I close them (????).
So I have been searching the web for a program that would compensate that flaw (I consider it a flaw, at least the user should be given the option to configure the close button) and have tried:
magic Button
InClose
smClose
Running Programs 1
And, last but not least, HTC x-button.
None of these work on my s710, I guess it is because s710 is a smartphone and all those programs where designed for PPC.
Is there somewhere a WM6 for smartphone compatible program that makes the red-key actually close the programs? I don't need a task manager, just a simple, small app.

Thanks everyone