When cradled is PC internet used ??

[dwphoto]

As a relative new comer to the trinity (dopod d810), I wonder if when I have the unit cradled, does it access the internet via my computer's connection.

Being with Telstra in Australia, data charges are high so if I ever want to surf extensively it would be better through my pc.

If this isnt the case, how do I know. Similarly if I'm connected to a wifi network, does the phone use that internet connection by default?

Thanks, Dean

[Super Sheep]

You should try disabling advanced USB mode.

[dwphoto]

Can anyone offer some advice here?
Thanks, Dean

ps - not sure what the previous posters comment had to do with it....

[Mesquire]

The simple answer is no - it uses whichever network your unit is set to use under Connections, so if it's set to use your mobile phone operator's network, that's what it will be using when accessing the Internet.

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However, the PPC can be set to access the Internet through a valid LAN (via ActiveSync) or Wi-Fi network connection only by creating a *dummy* connection :D

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If you want to access through your mobile operator again, simply switch from the dummy back to mobile operator connection, and vice versa

[dwphoto]

Nice work, I enterd the dummy connection and it seemed to work well - internet connection when cnnected to my pc, nothing when I disconnect.

Thanks, Dean

[Mesquire]

You're welcome :p I heard there was a software switch on the Trinity that turned data connection on and off (easier than switching connections) but so far I haven't found any on my Dopod D810

[NeilM]

The above advice is good, but not the whole story!

All PPC devices will show 'My ISP' or whatever your GPRS connection is called, in the Network Settings/Programs that connect to....' box

If you never want to use GPRS, then the dummy connection is a good workaround. If you do envisage needing GPRS at some point, then it may be better to go into the My ISP settings, and remove the network password. This will mean that any attempt at the device connecting to GPRS will ask for the password, so you will be in control of connections.

Even if the settings are kept at the default, the device should connect via the PC when cradled, and via WiFi when successfully connected to an access point.

WM5 and WM6 are built to use Activesync/WiFI/GPRS in that order of heirarchy. If you find GPRS is still being used, there is an error in either your A/S settings, or WiFI settings.

In ActiveSync on the PC make sure under connection settings, that the default connection is The Internet, rather than Auto.

[Mesquire]

Interesting.... not trying to dispute the information given but the 'My ISP' (note: not the dummy connection that I created) entry on my D810 or 818 Pro does not contain any setting, nor does my GPRS connection requires a username or a password to access - it's locked to my SIM so is there a way to obtain a *password prompt* so to speak without using a username (with which the GPRS connection to mobile phone operator's network will be disrupted)?


PS. What A/S or Wi-Fi parameters do I need to verify if my PPC is still connecting through GRPS and not Wi-Fi (or ActiveSync)? Thanks. It doesn't appear to be overriding this setting no matter what I do (and I have tried it on 3 different D810 units to 3 different mobile network operators):

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[NeilM]

Maybe this is an operator/location specific issue with the Dopod?

If there is no username or password on the GPRS account, then it appears you are stymied when it comes to using the password 'workaround'

To check whether GPRS is being used, I suppose you could install a GPRS counter. Efficasoft GPRS Monitor is a small program and has a free trial. If you load it, and configure it to monitor all your GPRS connections, it should give you some hints as to how the connections are being used.

It may be that specific models have been 'modified' to use GPRS in preference. In UK, there is some evidence that the T-Mobile Compact III uses GPRS rather than ActiveSync (it doesn't have WiFi anyway).

It may also be worth unchecking 'Allow Wireless Connections when cradled' in the PC ActiveSync options.

Sorry I can't be more explicit!

[Mesquire]

Thanks anyway

I don't see much point in using a wireless connection when connected to a PC via ActiveSync (my D810 doesn't come with a cradle) so it looks like I'll continue with switching the network connection preference back and forth since it doesn't use my Wi-Fi or PC connection when set to connect to my mobile operator's network for Internet!!

[NeilM]

You're welcome :p I heard there was a software switch on the Trinity that turned data connection on and off (easier than switching connections) but so far I haven't found any on my Dopod D810

This may do the trick!

Bandswitch (http://commmgrpro.com/_wsn/page3.html) enables you to switch GPRS connections on/off by tapping a coloured bar. It also has a very useful band mode switch (GSM, 3G or Auto) for those seeing excessive battery drain on 3G.

Best of all, it's free!