Black Dymond Released.

[thap143]

Saw it is released and available at http://wmblack.info/

[ibanyard]

and the servers crashed already... not that wasnt predicted..

[thap143]

and the servers crashed already... not that wasnt predicted..

I guess i downloaded before it crashed... i dont know if i can post anywhere as mirror...

[bennec83]

would you not be able to load files onto rapidshare or megaupload?

[thap143]

would you not be able to load files onto rapidshare or megaupload?

Uploading now...

[cyriljp]

Please someone upload to Megaupload! Alot of us have a big problem with rapdishare! Many thanks.

I can't wait to flash another day! Argh! The servers crashed!

[mackaikai]

the day is finally here!!

[fb2k]

http://rapidshare.com/files/33687352/Dymond.exe.html

[abenk]

http://rapidshare.com/files/33687352/Dymond.exe.html
Nice Job DUDE & Thanks For Sharing this....

[cyriljp]

@fb2k

Any chance you can upload to Megaupload? I can't get a download from rapidshare.

[Ninja1]

http://rapidshare.com/files/33687352/Dymond.exe.html

Link works. Thanks for the mirror.

[ChiGGz]

Does it contain the updated ATI drivers?

[boz]

Does it contain the updated ATI drivers?

Yes it does!

[fella]

Servers are up on http://www.4winmobile.com/viewtopic.php?t=5637

Black Dymond link
http://wmblack.info/Dymond.exe

[fb2k]

Have not used megaupload before.. so not sure how it works.. Looks like I need premium service to share a file!?

For those that want the addons -> http://rapidshare.com/files/33690115/Dymond_Addons.zip.html

[thap143]

Have not used megaupload before.. so not sure how it works.. Looks like I need premium service to share a file!?

For those that want the addons -> http://rapidshare.com/files/33690115/Dymond_Addons.zip.html

For megaupload likers http://www.megaupload.com/?d=7BADMREZ

[mackaikai]

here is another one if ppl care:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=209LBTM8

[pietrucci]

it's the same build and kernel as Black 2.5
i'm a bit disappointed...
but there must be good news about this version!?

[Abo Forat]

it's the same build and kernel as Black 2.5
i'm a bit disappointed...

Am with u pietrucci. Besides I did bench mark with SPBench mark & SKTools one The result was Black 3.0.1 definitely faster than Black Diamond. But HOW & WHY? I just don’t know. Iwent back 2 Black 3.0.1 & I like it a lot.

[tonyb15re]

ive put BD on, my screen keeps losing alignment, such a PITA.. only reason I went over to it was the BB and Parrot support... what other options are there that support both of these??????

[mrvanx]

ive put BD on, my screen keeps losing alignment, such a PITA.. only reason I went over to it was the BB and Parrot support... what other options are there that support both of these??????

If your screen is losing alignment this is a VERY WELL known issue. Refer to the wiki about this.

[mrvanx]

it's the same build and kernel as Black 2.5
i'm a bit disappointed...
but there must be good news about this version!?

It is not the same build and kernel as Black 2.5

Read below (straight from the official thread...and i can verify it)
Build: 17743.0.2.3
CE: 5.1.1238

Edited to 17743.2.3.0 and 5.1.195 to allow BBconnect and Goodlink to work. This is required as BBConnect checks the AKU and Kernel verison of the OS.

[tonyb15re]

If your screen is losing alignment this is a VERY WELL known issue. Refer to the wiki about this.

its been ok with 4 other roms ive tried...

[tonyb15re]

its been ok with 4 other roms ive tried...

update, have removed Pimp My Black, ROM seems to be a lot faster... also removed voice command apps... screen now seems to stay aligned

[mrvanx]

its been ok with 4 other roms ive tried...
Yes....but again this issue is related to hardware, specifically a gasket which when the device heats up expands and causes the screen misalignment.

Like i said before take a look at the wiki pages to see how this can be resolved.

[tonyb15re]

Yes....but again this issue is related to hardware, specifically a gasket which when the device heats up expands and causes the screen misalignment.

Like i said before take a look at the wiki pages to see how this can be resolved.

Thanks, but am aware of this issue, checked it out when I bought the VPA initially, havent had a problem generally, almost back to the base ROM now and all seems to have settled down, also removed the VIJAY stuff which has some apps to change screen item size, this may have been causing the issue...

[mrvanx]

......also removed the VIJAY stuff which has some apps to change screen item size, this may have been causing the issue...

URGH dude you didnt mention that did you!!! :rolleyes: (slaps tony with a kipper)

The crucial info there was the 3rd party app playing with the screen ;)

Sounds like youve diagnosed it yourself then ;)

[pietrucci]

It is not the same build and kernel as Black 2.5

Read below (straight from the official thread...and i can verify it)ok, ok, I'm wrong. The build (17743.0.2.3) is newer than 2.5 and a slightly newer than 3.0.1 (17743.0.2.2).
But still older than LVSW (17913.0.3.0).
But that is a fake I assume you will reply?

What I'm trying to say is that it looks like all the ROMs are practically the same (only other programs and drivers).
I tried almost every ROM but after LVSW 19-05-2007 (a mayor step forward!) I really can't tell anymore which one is "better", faster, stabile...

[LegolasTheElf]

ok, ok, I'm wrong. The build (17743.0.2.3) is newer than 2.5 and a slightly newer than 3.0.1 (17743.0.2.2).
But still older than LVSW (17913.0.3.0).
But that is a fake I assume you will reply?

What I'm trying to say is that it looks like all the ROMs are practically the same (only other programs and drivers).
I tried almost every ROM but after LVSW 19-05-2007 (a mayor step forward!) I really can't tell anymore which one is "better", faster, stabile...

You use the ROM you are MOST COMFORTABLE WITH and that helps you use your phone the way YOU want to. That's it. This is personal preference. There is not necessarily a 'right' or 'wrong' answer.

I happen to think LVSW roms (mine included) are some of the most stable and 'base' roms around. Black is good too. A lot of testing was in that, and JJ has proved himself to be competent in the past. It just comes down to which you prefer.

[bennec83]

ive put BD on, my screen keeps losing alignment, such a PITA.. only reason I went over to it was the BB and Parrot support... what other options are there that support both of these??????

i agree my screen kept goin off center also there were wifi stability issues and signal strength was terrible!!!

[walshieau]

You use the ROM you are MOST COMFORTABLE WITH and that helps you use your phone the way YOU want to. That's it. This is personal preference. There is not necessarily a 'right' or 'wrong' answer.

I happen to think LVSW roms (mine included) are some of the most stable and 'base' roms around. Black is good too. A lot of testing was in that, and JJ has proved himself to be competent in the past. It just comes down to which you prefer.

Black 3.5 is based on the RTM/RTO versions sent out to Operators for release. the 179** builds are in Microsoft's terms 'Dogfood' (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eat_one's_own_dog_food) leaked builds from the Windows Mobile department...

yes they are a great improvement on speed and stability but are still ina term 'beta'... Like most products they still have their 'undocumented features' which is why you see the odd bug or two... Currently the latest WM6 RTO/RTM build is 17745

[SorcererJP]

Okay, after I smoothly upgraded toBlack 2.5 two weeks ago, I want to try Black 3.5. But the exe-file won't execute on my PC...

After the 'Are you ready for the Black Experience' pop-up, I got an/the

0xc0000035 error.

Someone got a clue? My TyTn is connected, I put it in bootloadermode. But no succes!

[walshieau]

Okay, after I smoothly upgraded toBlack 2.5 two weeks ago, I want to try Black 3.5. But the exe-file won't execute on my PC...

After the 'Are you ready for the Black Experience' pop-up, I got an/the

0xc0000035 error.

Someone got a clue? My TyTn is connected, I put it in bootloadermode. But no succes!

1. wrong forum to be posting this on....
2. sounds like a corrupt download or a .net framework issue... download the latest from http://update.microsoft.com

[spastico]

JJ said: "17745 had some bugs...."

[alanchia67]

seems like black 3.5 has resolved old bluetooth issues i had with 2.5, 3.0 and 3.01. now my car handsfree kit works.

[guapinoy]

I'm liking this ROM too...thumbs up to mr. JJ :)

[viczena]

i tried dymond. i personally do not like the black finish. and i get troubles as soon as i start it (wireless not detected, false phone provider etc...). the recorder feature is the one i like best in dymond.

as it doesnt offer any other advantages, i will go back to lvsw, which seems to be more stable (in my personal view).

peter

[SorcererJP]

1. wrong forum to be posting this on....
2. sounds like a corrupt download or a .net framework issue... download the latest from http://update.microsoft.com

1. Why the wrong forum, don't we technical discuss Blak Dymond overhere?
2. You're so right, I forgot I had to re-install my laptop last week...

[.VIBE]

1. Why the wrong forum, don't we technical discuss Blak Dymond overhere?
2. You're so right, I forgot I had to re-install my laptop last week...

1. no. Black ROM tech discussions take place at the 4winmobile forums.

[mxlaser]

What crap.

Black Dymond tech discussions can happen here. The difference is the community can try to fix the problem, as the Chef isn't on these forums. Theres no reason it can't be discussed.

You would of been right sayin "you more likely to get a better or faster ranswer from the 4winmobile forums from the chef" but theres no reason tech issues can't be discussed here at all.

[Sleuth255]

You can discuss BD without issues here. Just don't expect JJ to respond.

[xdaass]

Hi all
this version updated BT driver but doesnt support the BH800 nokia ear plug using the hands free profile
anyone have an idea????
is it a known issue??
10x

[newbro]

anyone experiencing similar problem that mp3 can't be used as ringtone? it can be selected in the select box but wouldn't play when preview it, and as soon as I hit ok to confirm the selection it would revert back to the default wave ringtone

[mrvanx]

anyone experiencing similar problem that mp3 can't be used as ringtone? it can be selected in the select box but wouldn't play when preview it, and as soon as I hit ok to confirm the selection it would revert back to the default wave ringtone

Have you tried placing the mp3 in the /windows folder?

[newbro]

Have you tried placing the mp3 in the /windows folder?

Actually if I put it in the /windows folder I can't even find it in the selection box. However if I put it in the /mydocument or /storage card folders it will show up but just can't use it as ringtone. This is kinda annoying as the rom is pretty much perfect for me except for this little problem

[Lordsmiff]

Try putting the file in the "Rings" folder in the Windows folder...you should then see it in the list and be able to choose it.

Also, I've had problems where I've installed some MP3 playing software (not sure which one caused it) where that then stopped the phone from playing MP3 tones - not sure if that was on WM5 though - can't remeber the last time I had that.

HTH,
Smiffy.

[dbaser]

You can put the ringtones on the Storage Card. Make a folder called "My Ringtones" in the My Documents folder.

Works flawlessly. :)

[churchwa]

Great rom, already better that 3.0.1

The dialer colours now work properly, you can actually see your redials.

Seems much fatser as well

[tonyb15re]

Anyone on here using BB Connect with this rom? I have tried 3 versions, all work as far as sending and receiving mail but the mail all comes into the Inbox even though I have configured the BES account to distribute amongst the configured folders in line with the Rules I have on Outlook. The annoying thing is that on WM5 the same BB Client distributed things properly, has he changed the Mail client on this build, is it not a standard one?

[chamelion]

HIGH SPEED HTTP MIRROR (http://zimuhost.getmyip.com/download.php?file=Dymond.exe)

[mivec]

Black Dymond 3.5
http://lix.in/b87635

Black Add-on Cabs
http://lix.in/40a513

[Knight__Mayor]

Just installed this version after coming from Black v2.0

I notice that this was removed in v2.5 - replaced by PIM backup (Which is no longer present in Black Dymond)

Does anyone have an installable copy of the SMS Backup app present in v2.0?

I backed up my 300+ txt messages before the ROM upgrade, and now I can't get them back in!

Tried searching for it, but it seems the new version of it (SMS Organiser) doesn't recognise the SMS Backup export.

Help appreciated! Would hate to go back just to get my SMS messages back!

(I know - sounds sad, but I have a lot of information in there that I need to refer to, and some pretty funny jokes too!)

[jcespi2005]

Just installed this version after coming from Black v2.0

I notice that this was removed in v2.5 - replaced by PIM backup (Which is no longer present in Black Dymond)

Does anyone have an installable copy of the SMS Backup app present in v2.0?

I backed up my 300+ txt messages before the ROM upgrade, and now I can't get them back in!

Tried searching for it, but it seems the new version of it (SMS Organiser) doesn't recognise the SMS Backup export.

Help appreciated! Would hate to go back just to get my SMS messages back!

(I know - sounds sad, but I have a lot of information in there that I need to refer to, and some pretty funny jokes too!)

If you are talking about Jeyo SMS Backup, take a search in google with "Jeyo SMS Backup" and you'll find it.

Can't remember what sms backup include the Black 2.5... sorry.

[pewiedmann]

hi...

im very interested in this rom.

but i want to have a german version on my tytn.

Is this rom only in english availible or in other languages too?

Especially in german? :confused:

Greetings
Pe

[SkyyBoy]

Does anyone have an installable copy of the SMS Backup app present in v2.0?

use this...

[Knight__Mayor]

Brilliant SkyyBoy !
:) All my txt messages restored like new! :)

(Also - thx jcespi2005 for pointing me in the right direction, but SkyyBoy get's the biscuit for layin it on me ;))

[jcespi2005]

Brilliant SkyyBoy !
:) All my txt messages restored like new! :)

(Also - thx jcespi2005 for pointing me in the right direction, but SkyyBoy get's the biscuit for layin it on me ;))

no competition, only help ... and remember, better than give someone a biscuit is to teach how get a biscuit by himself :)

Regards.

[SkyyBoy]

BTW, I think that PIM Backup is a much better solution than SMS backup.
you can get PIM Backup at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=299705
enjoy!

[jcespi2005]

BTW, I think that PIM Backup is a much better solution than SMS backup.
you can get PIM Backup at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=299705
enjoy!

Sure yes, more complet, with lot of options, but in my case SMS Backup take less time with Jeyo, only 1 minute, and with PIM takes 10, so i use both :)

[Prerna]

hi...

im very interested in this rom.

but i want to have a german version on my tytn.

Is this rom only in english availible or in other languages too?

Especially in german? :confused:

Greetings
Pe

Hi, welcome to the forum.

This ROM is only in English. Check this thread for a possible ROM in German:

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298636

[Hawkin]

when i upgrade fm 3.0 for 3.5 there wasn't network ?:(

[scorpio8h]

seems like black 3.5 has resolved old bluetooth issues i had with 2.5, 3.0 and 3.01. now my car handsfree kit works.

Can you tell me what radio version you are using?

[Atmosphere]

I would also say that i'm having WAY better results with this ROM on my CK7 Nokia Car kit... before, other people couldn't even hear me speak!

i'm on 1.38 radio
3.5 Dymond

[papakeithjenkins]

:confused: I am a bit befuddled as I was searching for this new Black 3.5 ROM and all I found was the Black Dymond 3.5 and was wondering if that is the new name of the new Black. I know I must sound like a true noob but I did not see anything that said specifically - one way or another.

:o

[arul]

:confused: I am a bit befuddled as I was searching for this new Black 3.5 ROM and all I found was the Black Dymond 3.5 and was wondering if that is the new name of the new Black. I know I must sound like a true noob but I did not see anything that said specifically - one way or another.

:o

yes it's the same.

[mchmaitilli]

Dear all,

what is the best Radio for the black diamond,

i am using it with my old radio and it seems i have some problems in the reception and signal always low,

please tell me which one of these is the best

1.38
1.40.30
1.41.00

thx

[SPVuser]

As far as I know, its best to try different radios for your area or network.
Have tried 1.41 & 1.40 on Orange uk, with not very good results, 1.38.00.01(official orange) or 1.38.00.10 works much better.
However, lot of people like 1.41 in the US & elsewhere, 1.40 works well for others.

Good luck & happy flashing

[sublinx]

I noticed out of my options of boot roms mine is the newer 2.10 which isn't listed. Which should I choose on my 8525? Any help would be great.

[dbaser]

I noticed out of my options of boot roms mine is the newer 2.10 which isn't listed. Which should I choose on my 8525? Any help would be great.

umm.. okay..

Try Auto Detect.... (make sure ActiveSync is done activesyncing)

[sublinx]

Sorry has the wrong file that included a boot rom. I needed the one without the included boot rom. Thanks for your help.

[chg1282002]

Hi all,i have little question.
i have 1.41.00.10 radio with Black 3.0.if i upgrade to Black 3.5.
do i need flash my radio again?
sorry fo my stupid question.
thanks

[mrvanx]

No you dont, your radio will be the same

[porkpie]

Hi all,

Just upgraded to Dymond 3.5 with Radio Stack 1.41.00.10. I'm on Orange UK with a M3100. Everything seems ok except the fact that instead of receive a 'new voicemail' text/sim update, all I seem to get is a sim message with some symbols.

Does anyone know how I might get the normal messages back?

Cheers,

Oli

[Midget_1990]

Hi all,

Just upgraded to Dymond 3.5 with Radio Stack 1.41.00.10. I'm on Orange UK with a M3100. Everything seems ok except the fact that instead of receive a 'new voicemail' text/sim update, all I seem to get is a sim message with some symbols.

Does anyone know how I might get the normal messages back?

Cheers,

Oli

try searching? its been covered before.

[rabdo]

Hi all,

Just upgraded to Dymond 3.5 with Radio Stack 1.41.00.10. I'm on Orange UK with a M3100. Everything seems ok except the fact that instead of receive a 'new voicemail' text/sim update, all I seem to get is a sim message with some symbols.

Does anyone know how I might get the normal messages back?

Cheers,

Oli
Try my cab file for Orange UK users which fixes this and other problems

http://www.4winmobile.com/dload.php?action=file&file_id=70

[porkpie]

Thanks Rabdo!

I was actually about to post on your thread but had to wait for the registration to go through. Thanks!

Oli

[chg1282002]

No you dont, your radio will be the same

thanks Mrvanx.
why everything when i reset my mobile,the STORAGE eat up my memory.like now my storage 43MB,when i reset my mobile,storage 42.95MB.
anyone can tell me how can i fix it or.....
Thanks a lot

[rabdo]

Not sure if this has anything to do with Dymond but I have a slight problem with TomTom 6. Everything works perfectly well with my BT headset and BT GPS running. However, if TomTom is running and I make or accept a call, it stays on the phone screen until the call is over. On previous Black ROMs, on answering a call, it would switch back to the TomTom screen and the TomTom would display the 'sound off' icon so I could continue to navigate whilst talking.

Anyone else having this issue? If not I guess I will try a hard reset and re-install to see if that works.

[msuk]

Hi,

I am getting exactly the same behaviour, I am guessing this is how it works.

Thanks
Msuk

Not sure if this has anything to do with Dymond but I have a slight problem with TomTom 6. Everything works perfectly well with my BT headset and BT GPS running. However, if TomTom is running and I make or accept a call, it stays on the phone screen until the call is over. On previous Black ROMs, on answering a call, it would switch back to the TomTom screen and the TomTom would display the 'sound off' icon so I could continue to navigate whilst talking.

Anyone else having this issue? If not I guess I will try a hard reset and re-install to see if that works.

[eaglesrest]

Hi,

I am getting exactly the same behaviour, I am guessing this is how it works.

Thanks
Msuk

Same here, although I haven't noticed any change since the previous black ROM's?

I have a button assigned to TT so I can get the navigation screen back quickly while talking. Not ideal but functional.

[rabdo]

Same here, although I haven't noticed any change since the previous black ROM's?

I have a button assigned to TT so I can get the navigation screen back quickly while talking. Not ideal but functional.

Well in the older Black ROMs (certainly on 2.5), the TomTom screen WOULD appear automatically during a call and the TomTom 'mute' icon would be on the screen

[kemistry]

Hi,

Does anyone know how i can revert back to the original windows mobile 6 dialer skin? Also does the orginal have a button for video calling on it?

[donsaxena]

does anyone have problems with windows media player i get an exception error anytime i try to compile my library

[cbrandon]

For the first time in 1 year and recent upgrade to Dymond I now have the sleep of death :(

[willl33]

One of the best ROMs for the TYTN uses WM 5 so you can get your emails to work, tried wm6 and soft key email will not connect.