Black Dymond 3.5 vs [faria] htc hermes public test rom.

[duttythroy]

I know jj said that the latest build for hermes is or started with Build: 17743.0.2.3

And then we have a new build which is also latest build
[faria] CE OS 5.2.1413 Build 17913.0.3.0

Are these two totally different builds for the same hermes?

[faria]
Build 17913.0.3.0
CE OS 5.2.1413

Black Dymond 3.5
Build: 17743.0.2.3
Kernel (CE): 5.1.1238

[etijburg]

Well I have tested both ROMs. Black give more memory. Faria seems to be lots faster. I think I like the polish of Faria better. I wish it came a little cleaner with less apps installed. You can't uninstall the preinstalled apps. The speed is much better in Faria. I also find the PIE and Internet Connectivity work much better on Faria. I have used all of the Black version including the CUSTEL's versions. I have found that Black always lacks a little Polish.

Now I am new to using Faria's builds. The polish is there. Internet works great. Memory may be an issue for some folks.

I think I'll stay with Faria for a few days and see how it runs.

[bennec83]

i agree with etijburg but black has a much better file explorer, do you not think that is reason enough to stick with black or it there an explorer i can install on faria's rom, i have looked but i cant find any!!! (noob with this phone! appologies)

[etijburg]

i agree with etijburg but black has a much better file explorer, do you not think that is reason enough to stick with black or it there an explorer i can install on faria's rom, i have looked but i cant find any!!! (noob with this phone! appologies)

I did like the file explorer a lot more than the standard file explorer. Black 3.5 is no where near a fast and stable as 3.01. Faria is very very fast. I like the setting auto install he has. That is a very sweet app.

[thedogger]

google "Total Commander" for pocket PC - it's a free download, great file explorer program, works fine in WM6.

[ratcom]

Tried both back to back and speed difference is very noticable, however without a internet fix for Faria's I'd have to side with dymond 3.5.
Oh and yep Faria's does indeed feel more complete

[MaRaHoX]

Hey, give me about 10 minutes and I will have output from SPB Benchmark main test...

It is tested immediately after flash, without any additional settings... it is not 100% balanced, but for this purpose it is sufficient:)
We have it in czech lang. there http://www.ce4you.cz/forums/view_topic.asp?t=23151&dd=0&fi=0 - main values are transparent also for non-czech speakers:)

Black Dymond 3.5

MEMORY
Storage - Total 59.54; In use 3.88, Free: 55.66
Program - Total 48.68; In use 20.04; Free: 28.64

SPB BENCHMARK
Spb Benchmark index: 204.61
CPU index: 997.69
File system index: 82.61
Graphics index: 1161.6

Faria ROM 20070526

MEMORY
Storage - Total 54.25; In use 5.00, Free: 49.25
Program - Total 48.68; In use 21.57; Free: 27.11

SPB BENCHMARK
Spb Benchmark index: 206.2
CPU index: 1001.19
File system index: 85.01
Graphics index: 713.36

[christonge]

Nice work MaRaHoX!!! I have tried both over the course of today and Faria´s ROM is definately faster, but it has to many add-ons for my liking. Hopefully we´ll see a lite version....

[smarty77]

Hey, give me about 10 minutes and I will have output from SPB Benchmark main test...

It is tested immediately after flash, without any additional settings... it is not 100% balanced, but for this purpose it is sufficient:)
We have it in czech lang. there http://www.ce4you.cz/forums/view_topic.asp?t=23151&dd=0&fi=0 - main values are transparent also for non-czech speakers:)

Black Dymond 3.5

MEMORY
Storage - Total 59.54; In use 3.88, Free: 55.66
Program - Total 48.68; In use 20.04; Free: 28.64

SPB BENCHMARK
Spb Benchmark index: 204.61
CPU index: 997.69
File system index: 82.61
Graphics index: 1161.6

Faria ROM 20070527

MEMORY
Storage - Total 54.25; In use 5.00, Free: 49.25
Program - Total 48.68; In use 21.57; Free: 27.11

SPB BENCHMARK
Spb Benchmark index: 206.2
CPU index: 1001.19
File system index: 85.01
Graphics index: 713.36

Graphics index 713 vs 1161 ????
How is this large difference possible... The gap is to big if think!

[duttythroy]

I always been a fan with the JJ black roms but using faria`s rom I noticed speed difference although its bundled with a lots of customisation and software and I love the finish touch with clear type.

the only problem is the internet connection prob at the moment.

So in fairness its two great rom but I vote for Faria at this time awaiting for the internet fix

[gerald_s]

Graphics index 713 vs 1161 ????
How is this large difference possible... The gap is to big if think!

Faria didnt include the ATI drivers, I think thats the reason for this difference.

According to the czech website Custels 2.0 is the fastest....... :D

[MaRaHoX]

Hey, for me looks FARIA also faster... will re-test, for me is graphic index in Faria case also strange, because looks very fast!

I must notice, that these benchmark can contain mistakes, because of no exact methodics for it - but it can little bit increase objectivity.

What about similar benchmark thread there on XDev?

[duttythroy]

I know the difference between black and faria is noticeable but I tried custel 2.5 and his rom up to date has got the most stable ram, meaning I could surf on the internet and use live messenger and still have 20 ram available. but with black and faria `s it drops down quickly. so although I love farias rom because of speed and polished there is still a litlle a bit to do as to call this rom perfecto. its really amazing of the talents these chefs have in the kitchen and I believe we are nearer to a finish complete wm6 very soon as these roms barely can get better as what they are now.

[elivne]

I know the difference between black and faria is noticeable but I tried custel 2.5 and his rom up to date has got the most stable ram, meaning I could surf on the internet and use live messenger and still have 20 ram available. but with black and faria `s it drops down quickly. so although I love farias rom because of speed and polished there is still a litlle a bit to do as to call this rom perfecto. its really amazing of the talents these chefs have in the kitchen and I believe we are nearer to a finish complete wm6 very soon as these roms barely can get better as what they are now.

Dude! thats because black and faria are smart and they both used active cache, the system cache is set to auto! - it's a good thing when the system uses memory! that means its not readong from the flash drive => faster!

[yvrRome]

google "Total Commander" for pocket PC - it's a free download, great file explorer program, works fine in WM6.

Total Commander is already in Faria's ROM.

My vote goes to Faria's ROM. It's fast and it looks great! Truly the first ROM that made me say WOW!

[MaRaHoX]

Please, can U someone re-test. I was trying it to test FARIA ROM customized by me, but cannot proceed IExplorer because of PIE Plus addon.

In this test respond this values:

Faria ROM 20070527 - customized

Without Pocket IExplorer test - maybe misleading information.

SPB BENCHMARK

Spb Benchmark index: 349.61
CPU index: 1034.63
File system index: 157.03
Graphics index: 1171.32

SPB Benchmark is for reviewers and non-commercial use free;)
Please, can someone confirm or disconfirm FARIA result?

[Pumpiron579]

I tried the Black Dymond and faria's rom today and am now back to Custals 2.5. Faria's is very fast but has the nternet connectivity problem as the Black Dymond just has too many issues for me.

[etijburg]

I tried the Black Dymond and faria's rom today and am now back to Custals 2.5. Faria's is very fast but has the nternet connectivity problem as the Black Dymond just has too many issues for me.

yeah i loved faria's rom. i had to go back to custel's 2.5 as well. can't have internet down too long. I can test for 4 to 6 hours at a time and then I have to go back to something stable. I know that faria can figure this out I just can't wait that long. I'll test the next version when he realeases.

Erik

[DAFTEK]

I tried Faria's, i did not try Black 3.5 since JJ no longer posts his ROMs on xda. anyway, i love the overall look of Faria's but i had issues with internet connection at first and some major phone issues, when ever i got a phone call and try to answer either the green button or the answer button there was no response at all. I missed 10 phone calls today like this. pissed me off so bad, i am now back to the proven Custel rom, by far the best out there, my 2cents. :D

[bennec83]

Tried both back to back and speed difference is very noticable, however without a internet fix for Faria's I'd have to side with dymond 3.5.
Oh and yep Faria's does indeed feel more complete

when you say internet fix, what do you mean?

[LuXx]

when you say internet fix, what do you mean?


Yeah i have no problem with my internet!!! I just had to put in the settings from my carrier.

[minime1967]

as we have a Czech friend here :D , I have New Octavia and there is a builtin car kit, I'm having bit touble to constantly connect my Hermes to the car kit, :( in fact it connect very smoothly for a few min , then start to disconnect and reconnect.

any idea >???? :rolleyes:

[MaRaHoX]

Sorry, no idea - I have a french car:D and no builtin system:)

[jcespi2005]

as we have a Czech friend here :D , I have New Octavia and there is a builtin car kit, I'm having bit touble to constantly connect my Hermes to the car kit, :( in fact it connect very smoothly for a few min , then start to disconnect and reconnect.

any idea >???? :rolleyes:

:) i've Seat Leon with same Hands Free from VW... try to get the PDA ON (disable the powerOff in battery). Works for me...never disconnects.

This is related to the way the Hands Free gets info from the PDA, i think.

Regards.

[minime1967]

thanks folks,,, can you please explain a bit more how to do it ??



:) i've Seat Leon with same Hands Free from VW... try to get the PDA ON (disable the powerOff in battery). Works for me...never disconnects.

This is related to the way the Hands Free gets info from the PDA, i think.

Regards.

[xdaass]

Hi all this version after updated BT driver doesnt support the BH800 nokea ear plug using the hands free profile
anyone have an idea????

[jcespi2005]

thanks folks,,, can you please explain a bit more how to do it ??

simple, go Settings / System / Power and select Advanced. Then disable the "Turn off device..." On Battery Power. Thats all.

Remember the battery goes down quickly, so plug the charger on :)

Regards.

[minime1967]

thanks brother,,, you made my day , I've been using my ugly SE K800I ISO my lovely JASJAM...

I'll try it in 10 min

simple, go Settings / System / Power and select Advanced. Then disable the "Turn off device..." On Battery Power. Thats all.

Remember the battery goes down quickly, so plug the charger on :)

Regards.