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bennec83
27th May 2007, 06:18 PM
Faria has just realeased a test and Black Dymond 3.5 is now available, i have tryed both and i cannot decide which i like best.

Does any one have comments?
peezy
27th May 2007, 06:36 PM
I have a comment. I wish people would post everything related to Black3.5 in one thread. Things were just starting to calm down after the release of 3.x, and and with 3.5 coming out im sure we can expect another flood of noob posts and flaming.
pietrucci
27th May 2007, 06:40 PM
Sleuth's LVSW!

Why should Faria (LVSW) be better (same build, same kernel)?
Why should Black be better (older build (?), older kernel (?))?
Ok, the version numbers of LVSW are "fake",
My personal conclusion: there's no real difference between them...
CUSTEL
27th May 2007, 07:08 PM
Sleuth's LVSW!

Why should Faria (LVSW) be better (same build, same kernel)?
Why should Black be better (older build (?), older kernel (?))?
Ok, the version numbers of LVSW are "fake",
My personal conclusion: there's no real difference between them...
Ignorance is bliss...

So a ferrari body on a celica chassis/drivetrain is still a Ferrari?
pietrucci
27th May 2007, 07:15 PM
Ignorance is bliss...sorry, forgot yours...
but seriously, the core of all these roms is the same isn't it?
LegolasTheElf
27th May 2007, 07:17 PM
sorry, forgot yours...
but seriously, the core of all these roms is the same isn't it?

Uh, no.

1+1=2
CUSTEL
27th May 2007, 07:17 PM
sorry, forgot yours...
but seriously, the core of all these roms is the same isn't it?

no and the comment was toward faria/dark force and lvsw being the same even tho lvsw's build/kernel is fake...
Dr Puttingham
27th May 2007, 07:34 PM
Ignorance is bliss...

So a ferrari body on a celica chassis/drivetrain is still a Ferrari?ROTFLMAO ! If Ignorance is bliss some people here must really be happy!

:) ehehehe! :)
LegolasTheElf
27th May 2007, 07:44 PM
ROTFLMAO ! If Ignorance is bliss some people here must really be happy!

:) ehehehe! :)

That's why you should check out my rom! :)

<Blatent-self-promotion>
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=308387
</Blatent-self-promotion>
Dr Puttingham
27th May 2007, 08:02 PM
That's why you should check out my rom! :)

<Blatent-self-promotion>
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=308387
</Blatent-self-promotion>Oh I did! Is nice, just that Jose keeps me hopping.....

Dr Puttingham
MCP / MSCE / CCNA
mccreath
27th May 2007, 10:16 PM
Elf, I must say the one thing I do like about your ROM is the TweakUI, pretty cool.
I've used LVSW up til now, but added the Elf for giggles (still LVSW at heart)
:) :)
gregross
27th May 2007, 11:31 PM
That's why you should check out my rom! :)

<Blatent-self-promotion>
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=308387
</Blatent-self-promotion>

All of the ROMS are great - lot of hard work put into them - i think they each help advance the knowledge of the community - including the newbs - whom if we don't have some tolerance for we will all hdie alone ...
Midget_1990
28th May 2007, 12:29 AM
Sleuth's LVSW!

Why should Faria (LVSW) be better (same build, same kernel)?
Why should Black be better (older build (?), older kernel (?))?
Ok, the version numbers of LVSW are "fake",
My personal conclusion: there's no real difference between them...

tard,

LVSW and it's varients are a different build.
pietrucci
28th May 2007, 12:46 AM
tard,

LVSW and it's varients are a different build.thank you God!
pietrucci
28th May 2007, 02:58 PM
Ignorance is bliss...

So a ferrari body on a celica chassis/drivetrain is still a Ferrari?
I really don't understand want you mean. I know what a Ferrari and a Celica are but can't see any connection to the ROMs we're talking about...
But then you are the chiefs and I am a noob (or a "tard" as Midget_1990 stated; well he's a moderator so he is allowed to say so).

To make my noob-point: the last few days I installed and measured the mayor new ROMS on my device with SPB benchmark. I did every test twice on a clean installed ROM. It's no science, I know, but a simple relative objective performance test.
The results: well as you can see overall the performance is the same...

So maybe one is a Ferrari, one is a Celica and one is a Lada. But as they all perform the same who cares???
I just choose my ROM based on the extra's and the best drivers and not based on the core ROM... (as they are almost(!) the same)

LVSW BS 19-05-2007
Memory: 58,43 - 12,84 = 45,59
Program: 48,96 - 22,64 = 26,32
SPB Index: 323
CPU Index: 1206
File Index: 139
Graphics: 1164

LVSW 19-05-2007 Sleuth edition
Memory: 55,97 - 6,57 = 49,40
Program: 50,96 - 21,84 = 29,12
SPB Index: 323
CPU Index: 1203
File Index: 138
Graphics: 1165

Black 3.5
Memory: 59,54 - 10,08 = 49,46
Program: 48,68 - 22,47 = 26,21
SPB Index: 313
CPU Index: 1205
File Index: 138
Graphics: 1172

Faria 26-05-2007
Memory: 54,24 - 5,00 = 49,24
Program: 48,68 - 21,16 = 27,52
SPB Index: 327
CPU Index: 1195
File Index: 140
Graphics: 1173

Elf v2.1
Memory: 58,19 - 7,91 = 50,28
Program: 48,96 - 21,09 = 27,87
SPB Index: 322
CPU Index: 1201
File Index: 138
Graphics: 1169

Custel 2.5 BBConnect
Memory: 55,36 - 4,32 = 51,04
Program: 50,96 - 19,00 = 31,96
SPB Index: 318
CPU Index: 1194
File Index: 136
Graphics: 1164

New June 10th:
Schap's 3.30b WWE (17745 build)
Memory: 57,20 - 3,36 = 53,84
Program: 50,68 - 25,26 = 25,42
SPB Index: 318
CPU Index: 1196
File Index: 136
Graphics: 1173
Sleuth255
28th May 2007, 03:26 PM
Nicely done pietrucci. I've personally never considered you a n00b or a 'tard. Please accept my apologies for my peers who don't treat contributing members with the respect they deserve. ;)

You are correct. Cores are essentially the same; there's a limited number of mods you can make to XIP since location is critical. Thus the similarity of your performance numbers. Its the imgfs addons that really differentiate the ROMs here.
pietrucci
28th May 2007, 06:25 PM
I really don't understand want you mean...

UPDATE Post #15: Added bechmark for The Elf v2.1 and Custel 2.5...
fella
31st May 2007, 05:43 PM
you should bechmark dutty's v2, its really fast i'll like to see the numbers ;)
davidlleno
11th July 2007, 10:53 AM
I've actually been using elf 2.0 for a while now. It's been real good to me and my baby dopod. Best part is that I removed the stuff I didn't want from the ROM. Yay for customized removable apps! What I dont like about the ROM though is that you need to soft reset to apply changes on the today screen. Heck, even changing your background requires a soft reset.

I'll be changing my ROM soon and I'm taking a peek at Faria. I just hope the issues I had in Elf aren't present in Faria.

Oh and Elf has issues with downloading MMS from my carrier for some reason. It tries to download but times out.