I'm in Love - HTC Kaiser

[mavrik64]

http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2007/05/24/htc-kaiser-unboxing/

At last something I would consider as a Uni replacement

Mav

[fnordelus]

http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2007/05/24/htc-kaiser-unboxing/

At last something I would consider as a Uni replacement

Mav

MUTINY!

The Universal is the undisputed windows mobile device champion of the world. It's only competitor goes by the name of I-Mate Ultimate 7150.
That's the Unis only competitor. So you can take that pathetic 2.8 inch screens to a different forum. :rolleyes:

http://www.clubimate.com/ultimate/ult7150.htm

[mavrik64]

MUTINY!

The Universal is the undisputed windows mobile device champion of the world. It's only competitor goes by the name of I-Mate Ultimate 7150.
That's the Unis only competitor. So you can take that pathetic 2.8 inch screens to a different forum. :rolleyes:

http://www.clubimate.com/ultimate/ult7150.htm

ooooooohhhhh!!!!!!
time for another change of underpants :)

Mav

[hitman_sam69@hotmail.com]

This would be truly awesome if only it had vga. :(

At the mo i have the universal with TOMTOM6 using a bluetooth receiver and i carry a 6mp camera with 3x optical zoom.

It's kinda a drag carrying 2/3 devices but I love the keyboard and screen of the uni :)

Another advantage of the uni is that the screen is protected by the lid when you have it closed which i like.

[EastExpert]

What will you say about E-TEN Glofiish X800 (http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/15/e-tens-glofiish-x800-everything-but-the-qwerty/), 'Double-Oh Seven'? :)

This is the only thing currently that probably could lure me away from the Universal...
Advantage is too heavy, others lack VGA or GPS...

The X800 does not have one thing you can think of, and that's Keyboard. Which I honestly to God do NOT need.

[nvatvani]

The lack of an SDHC interface on either device is enough for me to stick to my Universal.

[Balur]

My Universal hurts me when I look at other phones...

[mavrik64]

My Universal hurts me when I look at other phones...

Mine says I can look, but don't touch

Mav

[EastExpert]

The lack of an SDHC interface on either device is enough for me to stick to my Universal.

Have you got a Second Edition Universal (or a Mars Special? :))?
Because as far as I know, mine does NOT have SDHC interface, just plain SD, limited to 4GB capacity cards (up to 2GB without problems, with 4GB Camera App has problems).

It even buggered my (non-SDHC) 4GB card recently (one of WM6 editions did so), so now it's only 2GB and I've currently run out of options to restore its 4GB capacity...

[PaulMdx]

It's only competitor goes by the name of I-Mate Ultimate 7150.
http://www.clubimate.com/ultimate/ult7150.htm
Oh my GOD that is a sweet looking device! I might worry a bit about the hinge though.

[nvatvani]

Have you got a Second Edition Universal (or a Mars Special? :))?
Because as far as I know, mine does NOT have SDHC interface, just plain SD, limited to 4GB capacity cards (up to 2GB without problems, with 4GB Camera App has problems).

It even buggered my (non-SDHC) 4GB card recently (one of WM6 editions did so), so now it's only 2GB and I've currently run out of options to restore its 4GB capacity...

No ... I only have a 2GB SD card running as well on my Universal.

My point as to why the Kaiser is already redundant even before production is because the Kaiser is nothing more than a Universal+Navigator (or any other Bluetooth based GPS receiver).

The mini-SD interface on the Kaiser is the only key that made it redundant against the Universal.

Hence, the Kaiser is NOT an upgrade of the Universal, but instead a competitor. I would call it a "side-grade" as opposed to an "up-grade".

[EastExpert]

No ... I only have a 2GB SD card running as well on my Universal.

My point as to why the Kaiser is already redundant even before production is because the Kaiser is nothing more than a Universal+Navigator (or any other Bluetooth based GPS receiver).

The mini-SD interface on the Kaiser is the only key that made it redundant against the Universal.

Hence, the Kaiser is NOT an upgrade of the Universal, but instead a competitor. I would call it a "side-grade" as opposed to an "up-grade".

I re-read your first message. My bad, somehow thought you were saying that Universal does have SDHC :) Sorry! :)
Right, neither of Uni or Kaiser have it. But this honestly doesn't put me off too much, I don't do video on the devices.
One thing that Kaiser sorely misses: a VGA screen... Otherwise a near-perfect device... just 160 grams, GPS present, all latest connectivity present, v.good 2.8Mpix camera, unique design.

For those waiting for it, here (http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2007/05/24/htc-kaiser-unboxing/) I found that HTC have responded to somebody that they will release the Kaiser in late JULY, not October (October will be the time for HTC Shift).
So may be after all it's worth the wait for you :) and things are not so gloomy?

Kaiser's lack of VGA ruins the parade for me. This is why I'm looking towards a E-TEN Glofiish X800... also due in July.
In the whole flurry of devices coming each day - I'm yet to find a slick (Universal is the hefty 285 g...), well-connected, GPS-enabled device with a VGA screen...

[nvatvani]

I re-read your first message. My bad, somehow thought you were saying that Universal does have SDHC :) Sorry! :)
Right, neither of Uni or Kaiser have it. But this honestly doesn't put me off too much, I don't do video on the devices.
One thing that Kaiser sorely misses: a VGA screen... Otherwise a near-perfect device... just 160 grams, GPS present, all latest connectivity present, v.good 2.8Mpix camera, unique design.

For those waiting for it, here (http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2007/05/24/htc-kaiser-unboxing/) I found that HTC have responded to somebody that they will release the Kaiser in late JULY, not October (October will be the time for HTC Shift).
So may be after all it's worth the wait for you :) and things are not so gloomy?

Kaiser's lack of VGA ruins the parade for me. This is why I'm looking towards a E-TEN Glofiish X800... also due in July.
In the whole flurry of devices coming each day - I'm yet to find a slick (Universal is the hefty 285 g...), well-connected, GPS-enabled device with a VGA screen...



Wow ... that's quite a bit of "VGA" in one post.

Maybe you can try and explain to me why a VGA (640x480) resolution on a 3.6 inch screen device is actually practical.

I have used OzVGA on my Universal and then removed it just after 1 week because the high resolution demanded a higher precision touch-screen input from the stylus. You can forget about using your finger with OzVGA on VGA mode as opposed to the standard QVGA mode. I mean, in VGA mode I "lost" the ability to control scroll-bars, as well as cell/row selections from a table form or even when you want to do "hold down" selection (this is equivalent to the right-click in desktops) - using my finger ofcourse. Things were OK with the stylus.

With such a serious loss, the benefit of VGA is not actually worthy on the Universal because of its screen size.

If you are talking about the HTC Advantage, then VGA is really worthy because we are talking about a 5 inch screen here - and so the loss which the Universal suffers from is not applicable to the Advantage.

[cktlcmd]

I agree, the only thing missing now is the VGA screen.

I am confused, is this device able to flip into laptop mode? From the other pictures, it seemed the keyboard pulls out from behind the screen, but then there is another picture showing the screen folded up on the keyboard.

[MikeChannon]

Do you like the price?
http://www.popularelect.com/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=29&products_id=437 (http://www.popularelect.com/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=29&products_id=437)
Mike

[captainsensible2002]

Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee-itttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt! Ridiculous!

[nvatvani]

Do you like the price?
http://www.popularelect.com/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=29&products_id=437 (http://www.popularelect.com/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=29&products_id=437)
Mike

Amazing ..... that's just the kind of cash I can pull out of my asshole!

[vlodeck]

the price is gonna fall down in a few weeks.

[cktlcmd]

That price is for a VERY NICE laptop. wheeeew!

[mavrik64]

Amazing ..... that's just the kind of cash I can pull out of my asshole!

If it's that easy, can I have some <grin>

They must have the decimal point in the wrong place.

Mav

[nvatvani]

If it's that easy, can I have some <grin>

They must have the decimal point in the wrong place.

Mav

Sure ... you can have some.

Just don't complain about the smell and the minor deformation of the notes, i.e. - it being sticky and brown in colour.