View Full Version : RomDump to SD card possible on Artemis
joey jojo
4th June 2007, 06:02 PM
This is a long shot, but there was a cab file knocking around the forums, I remember it from the days when i had a HTC Blue Angel. there was a cab file or file that was installed on the SD card that could take a ROM image from the device and then you could install back onto a device if the upgrade failed.
Im just wondering if this is possible and it would help those people out who have bricked there devices.
What im saying is, if i can find this cab file, i could try and get my rom dumped and maybe someone could use this to get an original o2 uk rom back onto there devices.
what do you guys think ?
;)
chickyd
4th June 2007, 07:08 PM
This is a long shot, but there was a cab file knocking around the forums, I remember it from the days when i had a HTC Blue Angel. there was a cab file or file that was installed on the SD card that could take a ROM image from the device and then you could install back onto a device if the upgrade failed.
Im just wondering if this is possible and it would help those people out who have bricked there devices.
What im saying is, if i can find this cab file, i could try and get my rom dumped and maybe someone could use this to get an original o2 uk rom back onto there devices.
what do you guys think ?
;)
this would be great if you would manage.. would save my orbit!!!!!;) ;)
please let me know how you get on!...:)
chickyd
4th June 2007, 07:17 PM
This is a long shot, but there was a cab file knocking around the forums, I remember it from the days when i had a HTC Blue Angel. there was a cab file or file that was installed on the SD card that could take a ROM image from the device and then you could install back onto a device if the upgrade failed.
Im just wondering if this is possible and it would help those people out who have bricked there devices.
What im saying is, if i can find this cab file, i could try and get my rom dumped and maybe someone could use this to get an original o2 uk rom back onto there devices.
what do you guys think ?
;)
hey joey jo jo... done some searches on this and came up with this link.. don't know if it's what you're thinking of - the instructions aren't for the artemis - but maybe a start?
http://www.modaco.com/Backup_your_Typhoon_ROM-t201334.html
joey jojo
4th June 2007, 07:18 PM
i found this on the Hermes wiki
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_HowtoDumpRom
not sure if this is anything that will/can work, im going to have a look but im still trying to locate that cab file that i used on my years old xda 2s/ Blue angel.
i hope it does work for all you people that have paper weights :D
any comments from the guru's ??
Pocha
4th June 2007, 08:20 PM
Try this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=279446&page=3 talk about 3 programs...
joey jojo
4th June 2007, 11:33 PM
Try this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=279446&page=3 talk about 3 programs...
interesting, :cool:
ill look at this, cheers.:)
joey jojo
4th June 2007, 11:58 PM
i only have a 256 mb card and i need someone to let me know if that is big enough for a rom dump....... any one help with this?
joey jojo
5th June 2007, 12:52 AM
seemed ok, just backing rom up now.... will try and put it into a format that can be uploaded, mine is the original rom that came with the o2 uk xda orbit, and will/should help bricked devices back to original rom.
joey jojo
5th June 2007, 02:18 AM
im, currently uploading my dump to the ftp, for anyone who knows how to convert this into something flashable.
i have no idea how to do this, so if anyone knows, please do this or pm me with instructions or link and ill do it tomorrow after work.:cool:
Pocha
5th June 2007, 08:51 AM
What program you use to make the dump? I used WM5 test, and I could make a copy of active ROM, but where this progam saves the files? I can't find any folder with these copied files.
joey jojo
5th June 2007, 10:18 AM
What program you use to make the dump? I used WM5 test, and I could make a copy of active ROM, but where this progam saves the files? I can't find any folder with these copied files.
i used grab_it.exe from your prev link mate, i now have an image of the rom, but now need to work out how to turn it into something we can upgrade from.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=238945
Pocha
5th June 2007, 11:16 AM
In which form grab_it dump ROM file?, I could only used WM5test and this program copy file per file, doesn't create nb or nbh file or something like that...
joey jojo
5th June 2007, 11:23 AM
all it created for me was dump.bin i have no idea what to do with it, but im searching the forums for help.......
chickyd
5th June 2007, 11:36 AM
all it created for me was dump.bin i have no idea what to do with it, but im searching the forums for help.......
hey... i found this..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-256380.html
hope it helps!
chickyd
5th June 2007, 11:46 AM
all it created for me was dump.bin i have no idea what to do with it, but im searching the forums for help.......
hope this helps too..
http://buzzdev.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=65&Itemid=1
i'm totally new to this but maybe if you use the htc wm5 rom as a base and then decode that to put your image on top, then encode, it will work?
see for nbh format of decoded roms..http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=289830
joey jojo
5th June 2007, 05:09 PM
hey... i found this..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-256380.html
hope it helps!
on that link, there is a coment, Please use the SEARCH button as this has been discussed already.
ANyway to help you do the following:
1. Download the latest T-Mobile ROM (the exe file) from the XDA Dev FTP site. Then extract this to a folder, say EXPERIMENT
2. Put the BIN file there
3. Go to Buzzdev.net nad follow the procedure to ENCODE/DECODE ROM. This will change the original nk.nbf (the OS) with your BIN file. using HTC64 Extended ROM Tool.exe
4. Then just put the MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe file into this directory also.
Now you have your OS backed up ready to install to a device in the EXPERIMENT directory. Now just make sure the T-Mobile ROM you downloaded has the same radio ROM. If not, download a verison with same radio rom and replace the radio_.nbf file with the downloaded version.
Backing up the ExtendedROm has to be done manually. Just transfer all contents to a alternate directory in the PC then just put it back to replace what's already there.
Hope this helps
i think this will only work with an original o2 rom, which isnt available, and i doubt it would work using another operator rom , will give it a go though.
chickyd
5th June 2007, 05:17 PM
on that link, there is a coment,
i think this will only work with an original o2 rom, which isnt available, and i doubt it would work using another operator rom , will give it a go though.
problem is also that the encode / decode is discussed re nbf compressed files... and the artemis uses the nbh format. this is what the second link was i posted.
looks tough!
joey jojo
5th June 2007, 11:26 PM
problem is also that the encode / decode is discussed re nbf compressed files... and the artemis uses the nbh format. this is what the second link was i posted.
looks tough!
it is tough, i have no experience in this, and i tried, ive pm'd a couple of people and awaiting some responses, but i cant see it happening in the sense that it may not be possible to do the upgrade while in bootloader..
but . . . . the mission continues :cool:
rvbcrs
6th June 2007, 09:26 AM
hi!
Currently there is no way to make a backup other than with pdocread.exe from itsme (istutils). You can make a backup of the OS, SPL, GSM and Extended ROM with it. The problem begins with flashing it back, I'm still trying to figure out how to do it when the phone is fully functional, there is no way to do it when you r phone is stuck in bootloader mode. The only way would be by reconstructing a .nbh file. The problem is that none of the tools that can make a .nbh file work for the Artemis, because the use a wrong signature size. The one who can help us out here is pof but he is a VERY busy man.
Pocha
6th June 2007, 12:24 PM
hi!
Currently there is no way to make a backup other than with pdocread.exe from itsme (istutils). You can make a backup of the OS, SPL, GSM and Extended ROM with it. The problem begins with flashing it back, I'm still trying to figure out how to do it when the phone is fully functional, there is no way to do it when you r phone is stuck in bootloader mode. The only way would be by reconstructing a .nbh file. The problem is that none of the tools that can make a .nbh file work for the Artemis, because the use a wrong signature size. The one who can help us out here is pof but he is a VERY busy man.
Then how is possible that bepe could make a custom ROM for arthemis? I thought if you use nbhtool you can make custom ROM for arthemis, btw I posted a msg in original nbhtool post, about what parameters I need to introduce in order to make a fully operational ROM, because when I entered in bootloader mode, and using putty's tool to comunicate with PDA, my device return this msg:
cmd: getdevingo
ARTE10000 HTCE... (and in nbhtool, parameters are only ARTE1000 or ARTE1100)
Signature size when you decompresing a original NBH file is 128 (in original post some people talk about 1024, but when I cooked ROMs with 1024 I have an upgrade failure, and I must reboot PDA), but I really need to know if in nbhtool on Device I Must enter "ARTE10000" and in CID type "HTCE" or not...
chickyd
6th June 2007, 12:30 PM
hi!
Currently there is no way to make a backup other than with pdocread.exe from itsme (istutils). You can make a backup of the OS, SPL, GSM and Extended ROM with it. The problem begins with flashing it back, I'm still trying to figure out how to do it when the phone is fully functional, there is no way to do it when you r phone is stuck in bootloader mode. The only way would be by reconstructing a .nbh file. The problem is that none of the tools that can make a .nbh file work for the Artemis, because the use a wrong signature size. The one who can help us out here is pof but he is a VERY busy man.
well, i decided to PM pof and he responded straight away.. good guy!
anyway his reponse reads like this:
"Basically you need a rom matching your CID to unbrick it. Even if you dump a rom and create a NBH yourself you don't have the key to properly sign the file, so the bootloader won't accept your self made NBH.
Cheers,
pof"
any insight?
Pocha
6th June 2007, 01:21 PM
Bads news, because it's means that in best case you could make a copy of your actual ROM, as you haven't a valid singed file, all ROMs you cooked will be not operative...
Now question is, where you must put "key" file in order to make our custom ROM?
chickyd
6th June 2007, 05:45 PM
This frustrates me!
I had read of an older version of the RUU which had been cracked to bypass the vendor id check ("NoVendorId.zip") but tried this and i think the version was too old.
I want my orbit back!
Pocha
6th June 2007, 07:09 PM
I will try NoVendorId on my bricked HTC, please crossed your fingers !!! but this program is to update Prophet PDA not HTC
chickyd
7th June 2007, 10:51 AM
I will try NoVendorId on my bricked HTC, please crossed your fingers !!! but this program is to update Prophet PDA not HTC
i assume no luck?
rvbcrs
7th June 2007, 11:14 AM
I will try NoVendorId on my bricked HTC, please crossed your fingers !!! but this program is to update Prophet PDA not HTC
I don't have enough knowledge about this so I may be off here, but I think the bootloader is the problem here, the bootloader checks if the .nbh file is signed so if we want to bypass that we have to hack the SPL to accept unsigned code, and again pof is our man! ;)
Pocha
7th June 2007, 11:59 AM
Yesterday I can't did it due time reasons... I will try it today or in worst case tomorrow afternoon ;) and because at home I can't downloaded "NoVendorId" ROM
Pocha
7th June 2007, 08:34 PM
I tried today using NoVendorId RRU util to solve my bricked HTC P3300 but I always got this error:
Error 240 : File Open
The update utility can not open the requested file. Please check your update utility.
I used original HTC WWE Rom...
rvbcrs
7th June 2007, 11:09 PM
I tried today using NoVendorId RRU util to solve my bricked HTC P3300 but I always got this error:
Error 240 : File Open
The update utility can not open the requested file. Please check your update utility.
I used original HTC WWE Rom...
That is because the RUU updater is searching for a .nbf file and the Artemis needs a .nbh file...
Pocha
8th June 2007, 08:51 AM
But I put original *.nbh ROM in same directory of NoVendorId RRU udpater and I got that error, I think my equivocation was using wrong USB Cable, (I have all cables on a HUB) and today when I'm going to work I saw that yesterday I used wrong one... tomorrow (I have plans this night) I will try again :D
rvbcrs
8th June 2007, 09:37 AM
But I put original *.nbh ROM in same directory of NoVendorId RRU udpater and I got that error, I think my equivocation was using wrong USB Cable, (I have all cables on a HUB) and today when I'm going to work I saw that yesterday I used wrong one... tomorrow (I have plans this night) I will try again :D
That's what I mean, the no Vendor RUU looks for a *.nbf file you are putting a *.nbh file in the dir, teh No_vendor_RUU searches for a .nbf file and doesn't find one so it gives a file not found error..
woggle
8th June 2007, 12:13 PM
Is there a way of converting the data.bin file to a .nbh file as you can flash the rom from the sd card as described in the wiki, or do you need an original O2 rom as a base to start from.
I would be happy to test if somebody can convert it into a .nbh?
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Artemis_SD_Card_Flashing
woggle
8th June 2007, 12:20 PM
Would also be nice to add to the wiki how you managed to dump the rom in the first place?
chickyd
8th June 2007, 12:28 PM
Is there a way of converting the data.bin file to a .nbh file as you can flash the rom from the sd card as described in the wiki, or do you need an original O2 rom as a base to start from.
I would be happy to test if somebody can convert it into a .nbh?
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Artemis_SD_Card_Flashing
need an o2 UK ROM in the first place.
Pocha
8th June 2007, 12:30 PM
I couldn't dump ROM because my device is bricked, and grab_it doesn't work on friend's HTC ESN Movistar locked ROM... was other person who can dump his ROM using grab_it, I`m only using NoVendorId with original HTC WWE ROM, I will try changing file extension of rru util...
woggle
8th June 2007, 12:37 PM
need an o2 UK ROM in the first place.
Np. thought this might be the case, never mind will have to wait for the o2 rom.
joey jojo
9th June 2007, 03:07 AM
I couldn't dump ROM because my device is bricked, and grab_it doesn't work on friend's HTC ESN Movistar locked ROM... was other person who can dump his ROM using grab_it, I`m only using NoVendorId with original HTC WWE ROM, I will try changing file extension of rru util...
i used grab_it:cool:
Pocha
9th June 2007, 12:14 PM
Hi joey jojo can you upload your ROM to rapidshare or other FTP in order to test SD flashing, or sent it via e-mail... I'm very desperate :(
Thanks !!
Pocha
9th June 2007, 02:12 PM
I tried changing name file to *.nbf but sitll same error... btw I review post about grab_it and I found my error, I must rename SD Card to Storage Card in order to make a ROM Dump (tested on my HX4700 and works fine), I hope to make this Dump tomorrow, if not I will contact with my vendor I will try a cheat with him in order to repair it...
chickyd
12th June 2007, 01:47 PM
any progress here guys?
Pocha
12th June 2007, 03:38 PM
Nops, today I sent my PDA to HTC for reparing... No one could pass me an Original ESN ROM, and pof said even making a backup of your ROM if your device is CID locked, you can't reinstall it...
chickyd
12th June 2007, 03:41 PM
rubbish... i guess tomorrow my orbit goes back.
vBulletin® v3.8.2, Copyright ©2000-2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.