Touch Software Collaboration

[mattk_r]

I wanted to get a thread dedicated to getting the applications out of the Touch .nb, and into the Wizard - and specifically the "cube" and "touch" functionality that is the trademark of the new phone.

Please save "oh, I'd like" or "oh, wow" stuff for other threads - this is a dev discussion.

Criteria: Working discussions on what's been done, what are we doing, and what could be done to get the excellent new features to work.

I hope that by sharing information - we can key in on the results much faster then everyone working on their own.

[mattk_r]

This post is a running list of applications, and their status:


Application............. .Status:
HTC Camera ............. .???
MediaHubMini ............. .???
QuickDial ............. .???
Streaming Media ............. .???
Streaming Player ............. .???
Cube ............. .French rom working, no WWE yet
Dialer Pad ............. .Done
Comm Manager ............. .Done
Today Home Theme ............. .Done

If someone can PM me who's current on this thread, I'll update the remaining items.
.

[mattk_r]

Here's what I've tried so far:

Using the 1413 as a base, I've taken and replaced the OEM folders from the touch build and replaced the 1413 folders -completly. This resulted in the phone self power cycling at the 3rd splash screen.

I've also taken the entire touch build, replaced the ROM contents with the one from 1413 (and I might have replaced the /SYS/OS folder as well - going off memory). This was the most successful, as I was able to boot the phone and get a lot of the touch's functionality. Issues were: SID Lock error, no "touch" function, and button mapping was wrong - only button 1 showed up on settings - buttons.

[edhaas]

Well, to follow up on my note in the other thread. I did pretty much what you did and ended up in the same place.

I did discover that the two other "raw" files in the original leak contained xip contents. I'm not sure why there are two of them, and they contain similar contents. I ran a build using the one I've labeled xip1 and it gave an error about missing build.rgu in buildos. I then ran a build using the one I labeled xip here (which has a build.rgu) and it built and booted, but worked essentially the same as when using an older wizard xip.

Anyway, time for bed now.

PS I tried to upload a zip of the two xip sections but it failed. Forum maintenance I suppose. Maybe I'll try again tomorrow if anyone seems interested.

Edit: Tried again to upload, failed.

[joaosousa]

I think we should start by the Dial Pad... I think it will be the easy thing to do.


Check this Hermes Rom:

http://wmblack.info/

and this:

http://www.4winmobile.com/forums/hermes-black-rom-support/9792-released-black-iv-shadow.html

[anichillus]

Why not port the entire ROM ?
Just a thought.

BTW, from what I know, in order to make it work, you will have to use the XIP from the Wizard, not the one from Touch.
I have some work now...but i will try and do that bit later...today or tomorrow.

[Mr. Vi]

Why not port the entire ROM ?
Just a thought.

BTW, from what I know, in order to make it work, you will have to use the XIP from the Wizard, not the one from Touch.
I have some work now...but i will try and do that bit later...today or tomorrow.

I also thought this... But now we have an official build from ms... I think it is a bit more stable than a ported version (if i'm wrong, please correct me).

@joaosousa:
I tried to port the Dialpad yesterday... But it seemed that I missed some needed files/registry hacks.... Still trying.

Vi

[joaosousa]

I also think we should keep the official build from ms... It's very stable...

[smart1]

any luck with touch dialer skin?

[Madcap180]

In all seriousness... the Today plug-ins for the HTC touch are fricking ugly.

[joaosousa]

Anything new in here?

[Mr. Vi]

Anything new in here?

Ya... I just flashed my wizard... Without the correct XIP partition -> stuck at 87% but bootloader works... so i think i'll get my wizard back :D

vi

[joaosousa]

omg... Hope all goes right with your wizard...

[edhaas]

OK, for those who want to play with the Touch Rom, here's a rapidshare link to download a "working" nk.nbf. I've also included total commander, and a registry editor for those who might want to tinker with getting things to work.

The main issues are these:
1) Pull the sim card before flashing, or you won't be able to to get to the today screen.
2) Since the elf is only a one button machine, most of the buttons do nothing, including the power button. You'll have to take out the battery to turn it off. (Unless you can figure out the registry changes needed to make it work.)
3) Don't worry about setting your timezone in the initial screen. You can set it later from the settings menu.
4) Be ready to flash back from bootloader mode when you're done exploring!
5) I pulled adobe acrobat, catalog, autoupdate. Everything else is pretty much stock. So you can get a feel for what's included, and what you might want to pull for use in the Wizard!

This is OS only.

Have fun!

Rapidshare Link: http://rapidshare.com/files/36574080/TouchROM-nk.nbf.rar

[mattk_r]

Here's a question to those who have tried it so far: has anyone seen it working, or know which application controls the 'cube' function? Is it the biotouch app?

[its right]

OK, for those who want to play with the Touch Rom, here's a rapidshare link to download a "working" nk.nbf. I've also included total commander, and a registry editor for those who might want to tinker with getting things to work.

The main issues are these:
1) Pull the sim card before flashing, or you won't be able to to get to the today screen.
2) Since the elf is only a one button machine, most of the buttons do nothing, including the power button. You'll have to take out the battery to turn it off. (Unless you can figure out the registry changes needed to make it work.)
3) Don't worry about setting your timezone in the initial screen. You can set it later from the settings menu.
4) Be ready to flash back from bootloader mode when you're done exploring!
5) I pulled adobe acrobat, catalog, autoupdate. Everything else is pretty much stock. So you can get a feel for what's included, and what you might want to pull for use in the Wizard!

This is OS only.

Have fun!

Rapidshare Link: http://rapidshare.com/files/36574080/TouchROM-nk.nbf.rar

what do you mean of working nbf, did you mean it is Touch fully rom, or mixed with wizard rom??

[edhaas]

Why not port the entire ROM ?
Just a thought.

BTW, from what I know, in order to make it work, you will have to use the XIP from the Wizard, not the one from Touch.
I have some work now...but i will try and do that bit later...today or tomorrow.

Yes, understood. I think the fact that it works just as well with either XIP just shows how similar the two machines actually are. Either that, or whoever "leaked" the rom included an appropriate XIP on purpose.

[edhaas]

what do you mean of working nbf, did you mean it is Touch fully rom, or mixed with wizard rom??

Fully Touch Rom. But it has been restructured to fit inside the partition settings of the Wizard.

[Mr. Vi]

Here's a question to those who have tried it so far: has anyone seen it working, or know which application controls the 'cube' function? Is it the biotouch app?

For me it didn't work. Did you notice a kind of "klick" every 2 - 5 seconds? it sounds like if the speaker are turnend on and off...

Vi

[mattk_r]

what do you mean of working nbf, did you mean it is Touch fully rom, or mixed with wizard rom??

The SYS and OEM folders from Touch, the ROM folder from 1413 (going off assumption here - correct me if I'm wrong :) )

[mattk_r]

For me it didn't work. Did you notice a kind of "klick" every 2 - 5 seconds? it sounds like if the speaker are turnend on and off...

Vi

yep, me too...

[its right]

Fully Touch Rom. But it has been restructured to fit inside the partition settings of the Wizard.

so i will play with it.

thanx

[edhaas]

The SYS and OEM folders from Touch, the ROM folder from 1413 (going off assumption here - correct me if I'm wrong :) )

Actually, I used an xip pulled directly from the "release", but I've tried it with a Wizard xip also and it worked exactly the same. The 80040000-os.nb file was initially from one of the recent releases, but then replaced with a "rebuilt" one from this release. (Doubt it makes much difference.) The initial 80040000-os.nb file is used to set up the file structure only, the files are pure "Touch" in this nk.nbf. I expect this operates pretty much equivalently to the one you're using though.
Regards,

[its right]

The SYS and OEM folders from Touch, the ROM folder from 1413 (going off assumption here - correct me if I'm wrong :) )

i tried before to set SYS and OEM folders from touch rom, and the rom is 1413 but there was a problem while upgrading. let us check and sure we will reach to something new :)

[edhaas]

Here's a question to those who have tried it so far: has anyone seen it working, or know which application controls the 'cube' function? Is it the biotouch app?

You probably saw this too, but when I activated the biotouch app, it only gave me a checkbox for sound. (I think that's the app I played with.) When I activated it from file explorer it didn't do anything except click as you mention. I also looked for the "cube" and didn't find it.

[edhaas]

Ya... I just flashed my wizard... Without the correct XIP partition -> stuck at 87% but bootloader works... so i think i'll get my wizard back :D

vi

Hi, The stock rom is a bit too large to fit into the Wizard as is. I think thats likely why you stuck at 87%, (the Wizard ran out of space).

[Mr. Vi]

Just found these files in my "dump" folder:

animated.gif
animation.dll
StartupAnimationEngine.dll
------
Engine.dll

I put them onto my wizard and rebootet (after applying some registry values)
But when I restart the phone, nothing happens...

Anyone of the poeple who flashed the TOUCH ROM pleas look wheather the THIRD splashscreen is animated... (the htc thing)

Vi

[edhaas]

Anyone of the poeple who flashed the TOUCH ROM pleas look wheather the THIRD splashscreen is animated... (the htc thing)

Vi

Yes, it is.

[Mr. Vi]

Yes, it is.

Thanks! Does anyone know, who we can see which files are loaded while booting?

Vi


Going to bed now...

[its right]

Yes, it is.

i upgraded with your nbf until congratulations window appeares, then waiting for the device give me the sound then starting but it is hanging now on welcome096.png !!

[masr1979]

Just found these files in my "dump" folder:

animated.gif
animation.dll
StartupAnimationEngine.dll
------
Engine.dll

I put them onto my wizard and rebootet (after applying some registry values)
But when I restart the phone, nothing happens...

Anyone of the poeple who flashed the TOUCH ROM pleas look wheather the THIRD splashscreen is animated... (the htc thing)

Vi

I put in some registry settings I found, but nothing. I didn't flash the whole rom, just built a package with the files above and these registry settings

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\HTC\StartupAnimation]
"Enabled"=dword:1 ; 0 disable, else enable
"GIFFile"="\\Windows\\animation.gif" ; max length is 64
"WAVFile"="" ; max length is 64
"Volumn"=dword:0 ; the range is from 0 to 0x7F

As far as TouchFlow goes I found these settings

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\ControlPanel\TouchFLO Settings]
"Group"=dword:00000001
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\HTCCPL\Applet25]
"CmdLine"=""
"Name"="TouchFLO Settings"
"Path"="TFSettings.exe"
"Title"="TouchFLO"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\OEM\MASD]
"Biotouch"="3_2_5240711_0"

And these for QuickDial
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\OEM\MASD]
"QuickDial"="1_0_523713_0000"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\HTC\QuickDial\Contacts]
"0"=dword:00000000
"1"=dword:00000000
"2"=dword:00000000
"3"=dword:00000000
"4"=dword:00000000
"5"=dword:00000000
"6"=dword:00000000
"7"=dword:00000000
"8"=dword:00000000
"9"=dword:00000000

I haven't found anything for the other files, but haven't looked terribly hard either.

*edit* for the startup animation entries, I noticed that they are put in in 2 different rgus, one being OEMOPPERATORS' rgu and the other OEMDRIVERS' rgu. The entries above I got from OEMDRIVERS, the OEMOPPERATORS' entries are

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\HTC\StartupAnimation]
"GIFFile"="\\windows\\animated.gif"
"Enabled"=dword:00000001

Obviously the same as the earlier entry minus the sound part.*edit*

[masr1979]

Ok guys read the the third entry :D

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\OEM\TFLOSettings]
"EnableScroll"=dword:1
"EnableSound"=dword:1
"EnableCube"=dword:1
"PanType"=dword:1
"PageHigh"=dword:8
"PageLow"=dword:5
"SpeedHigh"=dword:14
"SpeedLow"=dword:41
"UpLength"=dword:12c
"DownLength"=dword:1b8
"Boundry"=dword:4b4
"DelayDiff"=dword:28
"1stSample"=dword:c
"2ndSample"=dword:12
"FingerPressure"=dword:a8c

Clearly we're not going to get anywhere without these entries.

[mattk_r]

Ok guys read the the third entry :D

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\OEM\TFLOSettings]
"EnableScroll"=dword:1
"EnableSound"=dword:1
"EnableCube"=dword:1
"PanType"=dword:1
"PageHigh"=dword:8
"PageLow"=dword:5
"SpeedHigh"=dword:14
"SpeedLow"=dword:41
"UpLength"=dword:12c
"DownLength"=dword:1b8
"Boundry"=dword:4b4
"DelayDiff"=dword:28
"1stSample"=dword:c
"2ndSample"=dword:12
"FingerPressure"=dword:a8c

Clearly we're not going to get anywhere without these entries.

I noticed the touchflo icon in settings, but it didn't seem to do anything.

Where did you find these?

[joaosousa]

it seems you are going the right direction... hope so...


i am crossing my fingers...

[mattk_r]

took all the reg settings:

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\ControlPanel\TouchFLO Settings]
"Group"=dword:00000001
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\HTCCPL\Applet25]
"CmdLine"=""
"Name"="TouchFLO Settings"
"Path"="TFSettings.exe"
"Title"="TouchFLO"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\OEM\MASD]
"Biotouch"="3_2_5240711_0"


[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\OEM\TFLOSettings]
"EnableScroll"=dword:1
"EnableSound"=dword:1
"EnableCube"=dword:1
"PanType"=dword:1
"PageHigh"=dword:8
"PageLow"=dword:5
"SpeedHigh"=dword:14
"SpeedLow"=dword:41
"UpLength"=dword:12c
"DownLength"=dword:1b8
"Boundry"=dword:4b4
"DelayDiff"=dword:28
"1stSample"=dword:c
"2ndSample"=dword:12
"FingerPressure"=dword:a8c


[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\HTC\StartupAnimation]
"Enabled"=dword:1 ; 0 disable, else enable
"GIFFile"="\\Windows\\animation.gif" ; max length is 64
"WAVFile"="" ; max length is 64
"Volumn"=dword:0 ; the range is from 0 to 0x7F


<wap-provisioningdoc>
<!-- English localization -->
<characteristic type="Registry">
<characteristic type="HKLM\SOFTWARE\HTC\Biotouch\Biotouch">
<parm name="Path1" value="\Windows\A0.brn" datatype="string"/>
<parm name="Path2" value="\Windows\A1.brn" datatype="string"/>
<parm name="Path3" value="\Windows\A3.brn" datatype="string"/>
<parm name="Path4" value="\Windows\A5.brn" datatype="string"/>
<parm name="Path5" value="\Windows\B0.brn" datatype="string"/>
<parm name="Path6" value="\Windows\B1.brn" datatype="string"/>
<parm name="Path7" value="\Windows\B3.brn" datatype="string"/>
<parm name="Path8" value="\Windows\B5.brn" datatype="string"/>
<parm name="Path9" value="\Windows\C0.brn" datatype="string"/>
<parm name="Path10" value="\Windows\C1.brn" datatype="string"/>
<parm name="Path11" value="\Windows\C3.brn" datatype="string"/>
<parm name="Path12" value="\Windows\C5.brn" datatype="string"/>
<parm name="Path13" value="\Windows\A01.brn" datatype="string"/>
<parm name="Path14" value="\Windows\A02.brn" datatype="string"/>
<parm name="Path15" value="\Windows\B01.brn" datatype="string"/>
<parm name="Path16" value="\Windows\B02.brn" datatype="string"/>
<parm name="Path17" value="\Windows\C01.brn" datatype="string"/>
<parm name="Path18" value="\Windows\C02.brn" datatype="string"/>
</characteristic>
</characteristic>
</wap-provisioningdoc>


Plus the related files and am trying a run now... fingers crossed... I should be working...

[mattk_r]

must have missed something, didn't get setting icons...

[blackout203]

we countin on you man, i'd love to run this on my Wing(Herald)!!

[mattk_r]

so I can open the TFSettings fine, but biotouch doesn't do anything. Has anyone seen a "startup" action for biotouch?

[iruja]

Btw is there a working Audio Manager?
Keep getting a certificate error with the rar and cab one floating around on the forums.

So far ported the dialpad plus comm manager (little issue left, need help on that one, see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1306994&postcount=44) for the E-ten, the dialpad however seems to work on all devices even now :)

Anyways keep up the stuff, I'll try to port it to E-ten or other brands so everyone gets to use it :)

[masr1979]

I noticed the touchflo icon in settings, but it didn't seem to do anything.

Where did you find these?

OEMDRIVERS rgu file, I see you looked at the provxml that's what I was forgetting to do :p. I checked ALL the rgu files looking for instances of mediahubmini, aplauncher, quickdial, tfsettings, tflo, biotouch and didn't find anything aside from those entries.

[ericlin0122]

when i try to open biotouch.exe, the screen just hangs there with "start" text on the top left corner. But nothing happen

[h4ck]

http://wmblack.info/ has anyone seen this? its touch software running on the hermes...think any of it would be useful?

[joaosousa]

http://wmblack.info/ has anyone seen this? its touch software running on the hermes...think any of it would be useful?

It doesn´t have the cube working or touchflo...

It's just a look like htc touch rom...

[masr1979]

Those of you that have installed the rom, if you could get me a dump of the registry in .reg, rgu, txt format I'd appreciate it. Also I see that you guys are having problems with the hardware keys, are all the keys specified? the Touch's registry settings as far as I see only point to the camera hardware key which on the wizard should be the internet explorer key (40C2).

This is what the wizard's looks like

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Shell\Keys\4 0C1]
@="\"\\Windows\\AppButtons\\Messaging.lnk\""
"Name"="Button 1"
"Icon"="\\windows\\tmail.exe, 0"
"ResetCmd"="\"\\Windows\\AppButtons\\Messaging.lnk\""
"Flags"=dword:0
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Shell\Keys\4 0C2]
@="\"\\Windows\\AppButtons\\Internet Explorer.lnk\""
"Name"="Button 2"
"Icon"="\\windows\\iexplore.exe, 0"
"ResetCmd"="\"\\Windows\\AppButtons\\Internet Explorer.lnk\""
"Flags"=dword:0
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Shell\Keys\4 0C3]
@="\"\\Windows\\AppButtons\\Camera.lnk\""
"Name"="Button 3"
"Icon"="\\windows\\Camera.exe, 0"
"ResetCmd"="\"\\Windows\\AppButtons\\Camera.lnk\""
"Flags"=dword:0
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Shell\Keys\4 0C4]
@="\"\\Windows\\AppButtons\\Voice Command.lnk\""
"Name"="Button 4"
"Icon"="\\windows\\voicecmd.exe, 0"
"ResetCmd"="\"\\Windows\\AppButtons\\Voice Command.lnk\""
"Flags"=dword:0
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Shell\Keys\4 0C5]
@="\"\\Windows\\AppButtons\\AltTab.lnk\" -b"
"Name"="Button 4(Hold)"
"Icon"="\\windows\\AltTab.exe, 0"
"ResetCmd"="\"\\Windows\\AppButtons\\AltTab.lnk\" -b"
"Flags"=dword:0
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Shell\Keys\4 0C6]
@="\"\\Windows\\AppButtons\\Comm Manager.lnk\""
"Name"="Button 5"
"Icon"="\\windows\\CommManager.exe, 0"
"ResetCmd"="\"\\Windows\\AppButtons\\Comm Manager.lnk\""
"Flags"=dword:0

These are the entries for the Touch

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Shell\Keys\4 0C2]
@="\"\\Windows\\AppButtons\\Camera.lnk\""
"Name"="Button 1"
"Icon"="\\windows\\Camera.exe, 0"
"ResetCmd"="\"\\Windows\\AppButtons\\Camera.lnk\""
"Flags"=dword:0

[bowlopho]

Those of you that have installed the rom, if you could get me a dump of the registry in .reg, rgu, txt format I'd appreciate it. Also I see that you guys are having problems with the hardware keys, are all the keys specified? the Touch's registry settings as far as I see only point to the camera hardware key which on the wizard should be the internet explorer key (40C2).

This is what the wizard's looks like

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Shell\Keys\4 0C1]
@="\"\\Windows\\AppButtons\\Messaging.lnk\""
"Name"="Button 1"
"Icon"="\\windows\\tmail.exe, 0"
"ResetCmd"="\"\\Windows\\AppButtons\\Messaging.lnk\""
"Flags"=dword:0
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Shell\Keys\4 0C2]
@="\"\\Windows\\AppButtons\\Internet Explorer.lnk\""
"Name"="Button 2"
"Icon"="\\windows\\iexplore.exe, 0"
"ResetCmd"="\"\\Windows\\AppButtons\\Internet Explorer.lnk\""
"Flags"=dword:0
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Shell\Keys\4 0C3]
@="\"\\Windows\\AppButtons\\Camera.lnk\""
"Name"="Button 3"
"Icon"="\\windows\\Camera.exe, 0"
"ResetCmd"="\"\\Windows\\AppButtons\\Camera.lnk\""
"Flags"=dword:0
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Shell\Keys\4 0C4]
@="\"\\Windows\\AppButtons\\Voice Command.lnk\""
"Name"="Button 4"
"Icon"="\\windows\\voicecmd.exe, 0"
"ResetCmd"="\"\\Windows\\AppButtons\\Voice Command.lnk\""
"Flags"=dword:0
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Shell\Keys\4 0C5]
@="\"\\Windows\\AppButtons\\AltTab.lnk\" -b"
"Name"="Button 4(Hold)"
"Icon"="\\windows\\AltTab.exe, 0"
"ResetCmd"="\"\\Windows\\AppButtons\\AltTab.lnk\" -b"
"Flags"=dword:0
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Shell\Keys\4 0C6]
@="\"\\Windows\\AppButtons\\Comm Manager.lnk\""
"Name"="Button 5"
"Icon"="\\windows\\CommManager.exe, 0"
"ResetCmd"="\"\\Windows\\AppButtons\\Comm Manager.lnk\""
"Flags"=dword:0

These are the entries for the Touch

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Shell\Keys\4 0C2]
@="\"\\Windows\\AppButtons\\Camera.lnk\""
"Name"="Button 1"
"Icon"="\\windows\\Camera.exe, 0"
"ResetCmd"="\"\\Windows\\AppButtons\\Camera.lnk\""
"Flags"=dword:0

This wont make a difference. All it is is your phone buttons pointing to which app it is set to run

[mattk_r]

I really do have other things to do, but I can't let this one lay for any amount of time.

I'm gonna get drastic with the OS, because it's gotta be missed reg settings and incompatible/missing dll's and exe's. When that bio app attempts to run, it's not working because it could be because: is not installed correctly / does not have the correct settings / does not have enough supporting drivers or tools.

Are you guys starting with the 1413 build? I'd say this is a better place to start - because it's much closer to the touch release. I could be wrong, but logic tells me to use it.

So I'm gonna take and get the touch base OS to run, no apps installed, and build from there. If I can make any milestone, I'll post the software. I think trying to get the top application to work before the base might be part of the issue...

[mattk_r]

Btw is there a working Audio Manager?
Keep getting a certificate error with the rar and cab one floating around on the forums.

So far ported the dialpad plus comm manager (little issue left, need help on that one, see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1306994&postcount=44) for the E-ten, the dialpad however seems to work on all devices even now :)

Anyways keep up the stuff, I'll try to port it to E-ten or other brands so everyone gets to use it :)

In addition to the cab, I entered these settings, along with all of the audiomanager and quickdial files:

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\OEM\MASD]
"QuickDial"="1_0_523713_0000"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\HTC\QuickDial\Contacts]
"0"=dword:00000000
"1"=dword:00000000
"2"=dword:00000000
"3"=dword:00000000
"4"=dword:00000000
"5"=dword:00000000
"6"=dword:00000000
"7"=dword:00000000
"8"=dword:00000000
"9"=dword:00000000

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\audiomanagerapp]
[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\audiomanagerapp\DefaultIcon]
@="AudioManager.exe,-102"
[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\audiomanagerapp\SelectIcon]
@="AudioManager.exe,-103"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\HTC\AudioManager]
"AudioManager"="1.0"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\HTC\AudioManager\Confi g]
"music_player_time_mode"=dword:00000000
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\OEM\MASD]
"AudioManager"="1_2_515718_v002"

[masr1979]

This wont make a difference. All it is is your phone buttons pointing to which app it is set to run

Well then in that case we need to get the driver for the wizards hardware buttons, ButtonsExt.dll & ButtonsExt.dll.0409.mui maybe?

[bowlopho]

I really do have other things to do, but I can't let this one lay for any amount of time.

I'm gonna get drastic with the OS, because it's gotta be missed reg settings and incompatible/missing dll's and exe's. When that bio app attempts to run, it's not working because it could be because: is not installed correctly / does not have the correct settings / does not have enough supporting drivers or tools.

Are you guys starting with the 1413 build? I'd say this is a better place to start - because it's much closer to the touch release. I could be wrong, but logic tells me to use it.

So I'm gonna take and get the touch base OS to run, no apps installed, and build from there. If I can make any milestone, I'll post the software. I think trying to get the top application to work before the base might be part of the issue...


isnt the touchflo suppose to detect "skin." that is the new enhancement of the device? Well, our screen isnt meant to detect skin, so maybe the bio program wont work. Since it's for bio sensing

[mattk_r]

isnt the touchflo suppose to detect "skin." that is the new enhancement of the device? Well, our screen isnt meant to detect skin, so maybe the bio program wont work. Since it's for bio sensing

wouldn't suprise me, and a good observation. I noticed a "pressure" setting (something like 2700) in the registry. Hmmm...

Too bad there wasn't a way to override the "pressure" setting, and force the bio sense function... might make interaction a bit different than intended, but it's something to play with anyway.

[iruja]

This is a full working Audio manager + today plugin cab :)

Just enable the today plugin, and select audio manager as the app you want to control

have fun :)

[mattk_r]

This is a full working Audio manager + today plugin cab :)

Just enable the today plugin, and select audio manager as the app you want to control

have fun :)

thanks - trying it now!

[ericlin0122]

thanks - trying it now!

Somehow the today plug in only play media player instead of audio manager

[iruja]

Somehow the today plug in only play media player instead of audio manager

You need to select Audio Manager, in settings, it does work flawlessly here :)

[ericlin0122]

You need to select Audio Manager, in settings, it does work flawlessly here :)

I see, thx for mentioning.
Nice work

[sheitan]

i cant find the today plugin ? from where to enable it, its not at the today settings list

[bluber]

for me the today plugin is working fine on my xda orbit - really awesome - but i cant get the audio manager to run?? would be glad if someone has an idea why?

[kegobeer]

for me the today plugin is working fine on my xda orbit - really awesome - but i cant get the audio manager to run?? would be glad if someone has an idea why?

Start by reading the entire thread:

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=311225

[jasjamming]

hi guys,

forgive me if this sounds like i am hijacking but im not.
over at 4winmobile i have started a thread about porting the touch.dll to the hermes

Bepe and I have ported everything else and my ROM (black shadow) is an example, but biotouch wont work as it is dependant on the touch.dll in the elf.

we have all the oem apps split with rgu's, no need to bake it in to test it.

lets see if we can collaborate.... here is a direct link to the forum.
http://www.4winmobile.com/forums/hermes-black-rom-support/9828-att-developers-porting-touch-dll-elf-hermes.html

I didnt realise u guys were doing the same till i searched after posting.

[iruja]

What's that quick dial thingie in the thread there?
Saw it in the dialpad cab floating aroud here earlier too, kept giving me errors so I got rid of it and now it's working fine on any wm6 phone.
As it's listed there does it work? Got no account there and I'm just not signing up for just that file.

[anichillus]

Just a thought....but why don't you ask A_C , the creator of "Slide 2 UnLock" for assistance with this thing. Like i said...i don't have time right now to do it myself...but i am helping by providing ideas.

From what i understood the biotouch isn't starting at all ? or am i mistaken...
If so...i think you/we should analyze this thing methodically...
Why doesn't it start ?
* missing/corrupt files
* missing/invalid registry settings
* it's meant not to work with other devices...some kind of lock down
* worse case ... pure incompatibility

I suggested to ask A_C because he may know a thing or 2 about touch screens...
I suspect it's driver incompatibility associated with an registry error related to the touch screen sensibility.

Hopefully next days i will have more time to look into this. Till then...guys, try excluding possibilities above.
Good luck

[joaosousa]

hi guys,

forgive me if this sounds like i am hijacking but im not.
over at 4winmobile i have started a thread about porting the touch.dll to the hermes

Bepe and I have ported everything else and my ROM (black shadow) is an example, but biotouch wont work as it is dependant on the touch.dll in the elf.

we have all the oem apps split with rgu's, no need to bake it in to test it.

lets see if we can collaborate.... here is a direct link to the forum.
http://www.4winmobile.com/forums/hermes-black-rom-support/9828-att-developers-porting-touch-dll-elf-hermes.html

I didnt realise u guys were doing the same till i searched after posting.

We should give our hands and help each other with this. Let's share our knowledge in this issue.

[smart1]

Is there an update on dialer skin ready yet?

[tom_codon]

Is there an update on dialer skin ready yet?

Try it :

http://rapidshare.com/files/36694772/Wizard_reTOUCHed_Dialer2.cab.html

[mattk_r]

crap. I just realized all those registry settings didn't stick - I must have soft reset before powering off - and the registry didn't save. damn.

re-entering again, and trying.

I'm gonna play with the fingerpressure setting - maybe FFFFFFFF or 0? Hmmm....

[joaosousa]

crap. I just realized all those registry settings didn't stick - I must have soft reset before powering off - and the registry didn't save. damn.

re-entering again, and trying.

I'm gonna play with the fingerpressure setting - maybe FFFFFFFF or 0? Hmmm....
:D llllllllllllooooooooooooooooooollllllllllllll :D

[the-equinoxe]

Is there an update on dialer skin ready yet?

It's not a skin, it's a complete dialer with smartdial..

Working great, I updated the file, no more wrong gprs/wifi icons.
And I fixed the smartdial-settings bug.

[the-equinoxe]

crap. I just realized all those registry settings didn't stick - I must have soft reset before powering off - and the registry didn't save. damn.

re-entering again, and trying.

I'm gonna play with the fingerpressure setting - maybe FFFFFFFF or 0? Hmmm....


I was wondering, in a demo I saw, the touchflow UI was invoked by touching the plastic beneath the LCD, and then with a finger gesture over the screen.
So could it be there is a proximity sensor (biosensor) just beneath the screen?

If that is true, we might have to patch the software so that a hardware button-click emulates the bio-sensor (for lack of better words)..

[ericlin0122]

I was wondering, in a demo I saw, the touchflow UI was invoked by touching the plastic beneath the LCD, and then with a finger gesture over the screen.
So could it be there is a proximity sensor (biosensor) just beneath the screen?

If that is true, we might have to patch the software so that a hardware button-click emulates the bio-sensor (for lack of better words)..

Yes, u have to click on the HTC logo to enable the bio sensor,
U bring a good point, we can just assign that bio sensor to any button we want, that should do the same job.

[jawnsixteen]

I think that is more in the direction we need to go. I noticed the same when the "biosensor" was pressed in the demo, it seemed like it was the trigger that activated the actual touchflow. Can we get a conformation of this? Or was the person holding the phone just exaggerating their actions?

[Zack84a]

after watching this video of some actual use of the touch

http://www.phonescoop.com/articles/htc_touch/

it definitely appears like the bio feature is dependent on size of the touch (ie finger versus stylus) and where you touch the screen (notice when he uses the cube program that he always clicks on the black edges of the screen)..


Best bet might be to map a button that would simulate the finger press to bring up the cube application... from there we could just as easily use the dpad to flip through it....

[iruja]

This time I made something that the Touch lacks rather than port something:

http://aycu39.webshots.com/image/17518/2004547956074156021_rs.jpg http://aycu11.webshots.com/image/19010/2004577871783388344_rs.jpg

Blimkeys black edition, should intergrate well with all the stuff we got so far :)
We need anything else? :P

[the-equinoxe]

Just found these files in my "dump" folder:

animated.gif
animation.dll
StartupAnimationEngine.dll
------
Engine.dll

I put them onto my wizard and rebootet (after applying some registry values)
But when I restart the phone, nothing happens...

Anyone of the poeple who flashed the TOUCH ROM pleas look wheather the THIRD splashscreen is animated... (the htc thing)

Vi

I put in some registry settings I found, but nothing. I didn't flash the whole rom, just built a package with the files above and these registry settings

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\HTC\StartupAnimation]
"Enabled"=dword:1 ; 0 disable, else enable
"GIFFile"="\\Windows\\animation.gif" ; max length is 64
"WAVFile"="" ; max length is 64
"Volumn"=dword:0 ; the range is from 0 to 0x7F


*edit* for the startup animation entries, I noticed that they are put in in 2 different rgus, one being OEMOPPERATORS' rgu and the other OEMDRIVERS' rgu. The entries above I got from OEMDRIVERS, the OEMOPPERATORS' entries are

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\HTC\StartupAnimation]
"GIFFile"="\\windows\\animated.gif"
"Enabled"=dword:00000001

Obviously the same as the earlier entry minus the sound part.*edit*

I found out that there are references to StartupAnimationEngine.dll in:
HTCUtil.dll
Htc_Lib.dll
PLAYSND.dll (sound)

It seems that Htc_lib.dll does (a part of) the init , among others it starts the animation.

But I haven't found a way to start it..

[ericlin0122]

This time I made something that the Touch lacks rather than port something:


Blimkeys black edition, should intergrate well with all the stuff we got so far :)
We need anything else? :P

Good one, but I think it misses the "delete" button and T9
anyway
HTC already has a good phone pad with finger friendly interface

[iruja]

to delete swap the stylus from right to left, never felt much for T9, but maybe that can be fixed.
Get me any SIP you like and I'll see what I can do with it, this one was easy to fix in these colours :)

I'll see what I can do with that one but I don't really like it myself, will be hard to intergrate it well too.

[ericlin0122]

to delete swap the stylus from right to left, never felt much for T9, but maybe that can be fixed.
Get me any SIP you like and I'll see what I can do with it, this one was easy to fix in these colours :)

probly change the color of original HTC phone pad to nicer color, cuz it's so ugly when using the grey theme.

[patryq]

This time I made something that the Touch lacks rather than port something:

http://aycu39.webshots.com/image/17518/2004547956074156021_rs.jpg http://aycu11.webshots.com/image/19010/2004577871783388344_rs.jpg

Blimkeys black edition, should intergrate well with all the stuff we got so far :)
We need anything else? :P

Looks great, thanks. But there is one thing missing in this pad: <- to del what you typed. I know that I can just select sth and write on it, but del, or <- would be helpful.

Edit: And what about space? Its even more important :D

[iruja]

I didn't make blimkeys, but I can always take a look if there's room to edit stuff.
Will do some research soon on SIP's and see if there's any that's worth editing.

For any additional features bug this guy: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=716448

[anichillus]

Guys...have you watched that vid ?
http://www.phonescoop.com/articles/htc_touch/

It has another MMS ...or is it just me ?
besides...i think it will be pretty difficult to port that biotouch to our wizard...
It is active all time...and it's even used in internet explorer (just a drag down and the text auto scrolls or some smart minimise )

[bowlopho]

i like the iphone keyboard. It's easier to use to type

[bowlopho]

have you guys used icontacts?


it has a great feature with the scrolling. If there was a way to incorporate this in most of the major programs than who needs touchflo!

[joaosousa]

Are you guys having any news?

[Mr. Vi]

I found out that there are references to StartupAnimationEngine.dll in:
HTCUtil.dll
Htc_Lib.dll
PLAYSND.dll (sound)

It seems that Htc_lib.dll does (a part of) the init , among others it starts the animation.

But I haven't found a way to start it..

From where did you got
HTCUtil.dll
and
Htc_lib.dll?

They aren't in my dump folder?

[the-equinoxe]

From where did you got
HTCUtil.dll
and
Htc_lib.dll?

They aren't in my dump folder?

When created the OEM and sys packages, they are in:
OEM\OEMAPPS\HTCUtil.dll
and
OEM\OEMdrivers\Htc_lib.dll

[mirage22]

just a thought...

I was looking at this particular entry in the registry... and what does it mean?

"FingerPressure"=dword:a8c

If, let us assume that there is no special screen that can actually differentiate between a tap by a stylus and a tap by your finger, then the game is being played entirely by the software...

which means, is this registry entry telling the software to check the radius of the touch on the screen? instead of the pressure?

[mirage22]

am surprised... not a single HTC engineer is a member of our community? or are they sitting and silently observing us all the time?? (perhaps having a laugh, at times)

HeY!! time to contribute guys !!!!

[ericlin0122]

am surprised... not a single HTC engineer is a member of our community? or are they sitting and silently observing us all the time?? (perhaps having a laugh, at times)

HeY!! time to contribute guys !!!!

they are all taiwan people
probly i can find someone in chinese forum

[infrared411]

im not an expert in drivers or touch screens but i have had desktop touch screens that reacted to input differently. one of those wasnt pressure sensitive but had an app that could sense how hard you were pressing on it by meassuring the the surface area around your finger. you see if you press your finger on the screen lightly ur fingertip flatens against it the softer or harder you press the more or less screen realestate your finger takes up. the point is i had alot of programming choices with a cheapo touch screen where i made a racecar game that you had to push a little harder to go faster so its not entirely impossible to get the touchflo cube and other touch goodies to work for us. that is if it is device driver related errors or just the way our ppc's touch screens are passing data to these .dll's. btw does anyone have a clue why the homeplug and audio manager wont run on a wm5 device. and why do some of the touch software give a certificate error when you try to run them? oh yea good point mirage22 i have seen touch screens on periphials that had a resistive touch screen overlayed on a capacitive touch screen that kinda gave you the benifits of both worlds plus it allowed multiple touches to occur at the same time so......

[ericlin0122]

I have post the thread to get some help from Taiwan's PDA forum.
Hope some HTC engineers will come here help us out

[mirage22]

great eric!! lets hope some htc engineer walks in..

and being taiwaneese should not be a problem! They make english roms too, right? :D

[mirage22]

http://www.htctouch.com/

Looks like the HTC logo at the bottom of the screen has something to do... take a look at the demo under the option - touch!

[ericlin0122]

check this out
TOUCHFLO on dopod 9k..... herms

[mirage22]

check this out
TOUCHFLO on dopod 9k..... herms

Great !!! So what does that mean in plain english??? Did u port it? Successfully? ;)

how does one write/draw something using a stylus on a touch screen. It is a continuous movement by the stylus that is recorded. Right?

Hence, the movement of a finger up or down, that activates scrolling is not multi-point. This is all software driven...

Ok, time to break apart the HTC UI and see what's underneath it...

[joaosousa]

check this out
TOUCHFLO on dopod 9k..... herms


Where did you saw that?

[blackgear]

check this out
TOUCHFLO on dopod 9k..... herms

How do you know for sure that it is running on the herms?

My flash phone (that's how i call it) is now at a friend of my.
Because his Phone is broken. Have to wait till i get it back.
Then i will do some reseach to.

[zoki]

I'm trying to run touchflo on wizard for two days. Control panel icon is no problem, I can run all screens (quckdial, minimediahub and aplauncher, even biotouch) but I think that problem is that black surface outside display is also touch-sensitive and values doesn't match.

[joaosousa]

I'm trying to run touchflo on wizard for two days. Control panel icon is no problem, I can run all screens (quckdial, minimediahub and aplauncher, even biotouch) but I think that problem is that black surface outside display is also touch-sensitive and values doesn't match.


Can you put some pics here??

[joaosousa]

Is this thread alive?!

I hope so...

[TechniKal]

isnt the touchflo suppose to detect "skin." that is the new enhancement of the device? Well, our screen isnt meant to detect skin, so maybe the bio program wont work. Since it's for bio sensing

You can also activate and run the cude using a stylus. i persoannaly dont think there is any kind of bio finger detection or else it would not work with plastic.

am sure it all software

[Zack84a]

You can also activate and run the cude using a stylus. i persoannaly dont think there is any kind of bio finger detection or else it would not work with plastic.

am sure it all software

Not sure if I agree..... based on looking at videos, and reading up on reviews of people who have the phones... its been said that the screen feels spongy in comparison to a normal htc phone

my hypothesis....

First Guess
The hardware is different.... The screen on the on the Touch can detect the difference between just a stylus (ie a small area) and a finger (more importantly a large area pushing the screen) or instead of areas of the push, how hard you hard pushing thus the registry entries for pressure

For instance the scrolling in browser works like the iPhone when using your finger and pressing down... however when you use the stylus you can actually select text (ie the screen doesn't scroll)... The software is what distincts the difference between what is happening on the screen.

So if possible i think the focus would be on mapping one of the wizard buttons to to simulate a finger press instead of a stylus... perhaps holding the camera the voice button would activate the "touch" ability...

couple of people have suggested that the touch ability comes from the black surrounding, and that it activates the touch part... if true.. then idea of mapping this to a button would still be needed. However in watching videos of the touch, the scrolling function works without touching the black areas.


just my thoughts.... and I could be completely wrong... just really interested if we can mimic this on our wizards:D :D :D

[the-equinoxe]

Not sure if I agree..... based on looking at videos, and reading up on reviews of people who have the phones... its been said that the screen feels spongy in comparison to a normal htc phone

my hypothesis....

First Guess
The hardware is different.... The screen on the on the Touch can detect the difference between just a stylus (ie a small area) and a finger (more importantly a large area pushing the screen) or instead of areas of the push, how hard you hard pushing thus the registry entries for pressure

For instance the scrolling in browser works like the iPhone when using your finger and pressing down... however when you use the stylus you can actually select text (ie the screen doesn't scroll)... The software is what distincts the difference between what is happening on the screen.

So if possible i think the focus would be on mapping one of the wizard buttons to to simulate a finger press instead of a stylus... perhaps holding the camera the voice button would activate the "touch" ability...

couple of people have suggested that the touch ability comes from the black surrounding, and that it activates the touch part... if true.. then idea of mapping this to a button would still be needed. However in watching videos of the touch, the scrolling function works without touching the black areas.


just my thoughts.... and I could be completely wrong... just really interested if we can mimic this on our wizards:D :D :D

The only part I am interested is the "Cube".
This could be run on other devices than the HTC Touch.

All of the other stuff like smart-scrolling is related to the screen (pressure and size of touched surface), this can't be incorporated.

To start up the Cube we need to mimic the bio-sensor by mapping a hardware key to it, using a program that will inject the right call to the touchflo UI.

[Fun_Fuction]

have a look at http://www.4winmobile.com/forums/hermes-black-rom-support/9828-att-developers-porting-touchflo-elf-hermes.html
maybe u'll find somthing usefull..

[blackgear]

i was looking at some of the video's of the touch? and i start woundering. Does touchflo works with a stylus? if it works it must be possible to work on the wizard.

Few days ago somebody came out with iContact for the PPC it works fine and also works with touch maybe we should ask him for help

[bowlopho]

icontacts has been our for months.

[anichillus]

The difference reception of stylus and finger is not a big problem...You could do that with our Wizard too...It's just a matter of determining a surface ..in pixels which could activate the biotouch (finger touch)
Our wizard has an similar option...it's used somewhat like an error free area...something like tolerance...I am pretty sure that this is not the actual problem here. Or ..i may be wrong

[joaosousa]

Hey guy's! Any news ???

[kegobeer]

Hey guy's! Any news ???

About what?

[blackgear]

icontacts has been our for months.

does that change anything?

[cyberdrakula]

Is there any softwares or testing utilities out there where we can actually test the Touch Screen Tap Areas for PPC ?

[iruja]

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1316691&postcount=580

extracted some more touch apps from the rom, included al depended dll's.
Got no idea how to extract the register, or where to find a dumped one, so maybe someone could take a look at it?

Any other programmes I'm not aware of worth extracting?

[ericlin0122]

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1316691&postcount=580

extracted some more touch apps from the rom, included al depended dll's.
Got no idea how to extract the register, or where to find a dumped one, so maybe someone could take a look at it?

Any other programmes I'm not aware of worth extracting?

We need to port touch.dll cuz it contains aBiotouch inside which references to Biotouch.exe....
This is not that easy at all.

[iruja]

Nope, had the voice recorder, streaming media and camera working without that dll.
Put them there but it wasn't appriciated so removed them, they just needed a little bit of work.

[joaosousa]

Nope, had the voice recorder, streaming media and camera working without that dll.
Put them there but it wasn't appriciated so removed them, they just needed a little bit of work.


Please post a cab when the camera is fine... Thanks!

keep on the good work Iruja! ;)

[TheWizzard2203]

i'm very curious....

[ericlin0122]

Nope, had the voice recorder, streaming media and camera working without that dll.
Put them there but it wasn't appriciated so removed them, they just needed a little bit of work.

I mean the enable biotouch function from touch.

[rvbcrs]

I was playing with the startup animation thing a bit. Got the animation working on my device, I can't get the wav to play, but we have a start now let me know if it works...

[funman]

I was playing with the startup animation thing a bit. Got the animation working on my device, I can't get the wav to play, but we have a start now let me know if it works...

Does not work!

I installed it and it just shows the picture that is in the cab file!

[rvbcrs]

That is strange, it works on mine, I have the Black And Blue ROM for the Artemis installed, I guess there are more files needed to play the animation on your device..

[funman]

That is strange, it works on mine, I have the Black And Blue ROM for the Artemis installed, I guess there are more files needed to play the animation on your device..

Is it possable to find what is needed!! Cus i would love to use this and make my mean gif for my rom!

[rvbcrs]

Just to be sure, did you look really good, because the animation is really short.. the animation is before the grey picture with all the buildings show up.. it is a black picture and then HTC logo apears, after that the picture with the buildings which is not animated...

[iruja]

I mean the enable biotouch function from touch.

I'm not interested in that so I won't even try to even make it work.

The camera app seems not to work on both my qizard plus eten so I guess that's hardware related, which I can't fixm but might work on other htc models.
As far as I'm concerned everything that was worth porting/extracting has been ported, just a pity I can't fix the comm manager for my e-ten (main phone).

[the-equinoxe]

That is strange, it works on mine, I have the Black And Blue ROM for the Artemis installed, I guess there are more files needed to play the animation on your device..

you would also need StartupAnimationEngine.dll, PLAYSND.dll, Engine.Dll,

and I believe it is started from HTC_lib.dll (using HtcUTIL.dll)

[funman]

Just to be sure, did you look really good, because the animation is really short.. the animation is before the grey picture with all the buildings show up.. it is a black picture and then HTC logo apears, after that the picture with the buildings which is not animated...

Just checked by chnaging the last page to bright red!! and it is not playin!

[funman]

you would also need StartupAnimationEngine.dll, PLAYSND.dll, Engine.Dll,

and I believe it is started from HTC_lib.dll (using HtcUTIL.dll)

Can you post those files then please!

[the-equinoxe]

Can you post those files then please!

No problem, attached them.

However,
Never could get it running..

This is the registry I used

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\HTC\StartupAnimation]
"GIFFile"="\\windows\\animated.gif"
"Enabled"=dword:00000001
"WAVFile"="\\windows\\startup.wav"
"Volumn"=dword:0x50

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\HTC\StartupAnimation]
"GIFFile"="\\windows\\animated.gif"
"Enabled"=dword:00000001

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\BuiltIn\HtcInit]
"Prefix"="HTC"
"Dll"="Htc_Lib.dll"
"Order"=dword:0

[rvbcrs]

I have put all those files into the cab now.. if it works please let me know..

@the-equinoxe
Do you know of a tool to scan for dependencies? can you post it here.. I thought I saw it somewhere on xda-devs, but I can't find it anymore..

[the-equinoxe]

I have put all those files into the cab now.. if it works please let me know..

@the-equinoxe
Do you know of a tool to scan for dependencies? can you post it here.. I thought I saw it somewhere on xda-devs, but I can't find it anymore..

I also had it in a cab, didn't work for me..

I use Pe-explorer for dependencies.

[rvbcrs]

Ok I guess it only works on my Artemis PDAMOBIZ Black & Blue ROM then.. I have put all the files in the cab and made changes to the registry.. maybe you can try one more time if this works..

[funman]

Ok I guess it only works on my Artemis PDAMOBIZ Black & Blue ROM then.. I have put all the files in the cab and made changes to the registry.. maybe you can try one more time if this works..

no did not work for me!

Do you need a gif player installed?

[the-equinoxe]

Ok I guess it only works on my Artemis PDAMOBIZ Black & Blue ROM then.. I have put all the files in the cab and made changes to the registry.. maybe you can try one more time if this works..

This is exactly as I tried it..

Didn't work then, didn't work now.. :(

[funman]

This is exactly as I tried it..

Didn't work then, didn't work now.. :(

ya there must be another thing missing!

[rvbcrs]

I can't test it any further because on my Artemis it works :) Sorry guys.. don't know what to do now..

[cyberdrakula]

BUMP.

So that it does not get lost in the heaps of threads.

[iruja]

http://www.dopod.com/pc/product/s1_2.php

Look here, and I especially mean this:

http://www.dopod.com/pc/product/s1_02.gif

Now they really did it, a piece of iPhone cloning, haven't seen this in the wwe rom?
Anyone knows what the heck piece of software is?

[envmyz]

http://www.dopod.com/pc/product/s1_2.php

Look here, and I especially mean this:

http://www.dopod.com/pc/product/s1_02.gif

Now they really did it, a piece of iPhone cloning, haven't seen this in the wwe rom?
Anyone knows what the heck piece of software is?

Looks like Wisbar Advance 2.0 and Wisbar Advanced Desktop from Lakeridge Software to me...:rolleyes:

[ericlin0122]

Looks like Wisbar Advance 2.0 and Wisbar Advanced Desktop from Lakeridge Software to me...:rolleyes:

But this is official site, why would they post wisbar skin.
and on the top it says 2 new UI to choose from.
I cant say it real, cuz this is china dopod. they usually make up stuff and
they suck.

[the-equinoxe]

The new HTC Touch dopod rom (RUU_Elf_DOPODASIA_WWE_1.11.707.1B_4.1.13.42_02.93 .90_Ship.exe) is available from:

http://www.pdamobiz.com/show_news.asp?NewsID=87777&PN=1

NOTE: this site is slow!

Maybe it's got the other htc home plugin in it ;)


Info:

[Core OS]
Windows Mobile-based Pocket PCs

[Versions]
SYS: 5.2.17740.200
SYS: 5.2.17745.203
OEM: 24.6.11101.707
OEM: 1.11.0.0
NET: 2.0.7045.0
OEM: 24.11.11101.707
OEM: 24.2.11101.707
OEM: 24.4.11101.707
OEM: 24.3.11101.707

[Language]
0409 - English (United States)

[DPI]
96

[Certificates]
CN=Microsoft Windows Mobile PCA, O=Microsoft Corporation, L=Redmond, S=Washington, C=US
CN=OEM_UpdateCert
CN=DOPOD001

[Missing Manifests]
d92a4f0a-378a-4482-8fd3-bd127a05e4de.dsm
723fb954-d931-4348-b672-82a188e587b5.dsm
4e71f192-a1e0-da69-6fa4-eef7baef76bd.dsm

[joaosousa]

The new HTC Touch dopod rom (RUU_Elf_DOPODASIA_WWE_1.11.707.1B_4.1.13.42_02.93 .90_Ship.exe) is available from:

http://www.pdamobiz.com/show_news.asp?NewsID=87777&PN=1

NOTE: this site is slow!

Maybe it's got the other htc home plugin in it ;)




Did you found anything???

[the-equinoxe]

Did you found anything???

Just analyzing..

The dopod OEM_Lang_0409 folder contains 82 files, the original 91
The dopod OEMAPPS contains only 777 files, original 852 files
The dopod OEMDrivers 83 files, original 84
The dopod OEMOPERATORS 34 files, original 41 files
The SYS is Identical..

No sign of the other htc home plug.
(neither in the ex rom)

[tom_codon]

The new HTC Touch dopod rom (RUU_Elf_DOPODASIA_WWE_1.11.707.1B_4.1.13.42_02.93 .90_Ship.exe) is available from:

http://www.pdamobiz.com/show_news.asp?NewsID=87777&PN=1

NOTE: this site is slow!

Maybe it's got the other htc home plugin in it ;)


Info:

[Core OS]
Windows Mobile-based Pocket PCs

[Versions]
SYS: 5.2.17740.200
SYS: 5.2.17745.203
OEM: 24.6.11101.707
OEM: 1.11.0.0
NET: 2.0.7045.0
OEM: 24.11.11101.707
OEM: 24.2.11101.707
OEM: 24.4.11101.707
OEM: 24.3.11101.707

[Language]
0409 - English (United States)

[DPI]
96

[Certificates]
CN=Microsoft Windows Mobile PCA, O=Microsoft Corporation, L=Redmond, S=Washington, C=US
CN=OEM_UpdateCert
CN=DOPOD001

[Missing Manifests]
d92a4f0a-378a-4482-8fd3-bd127a05e4de.dsm
723fb954-d931-4348-b672-82a188e587b5.dsm
4e71f192-a1e0-da69-6fa4-eef7baef76bd.dsm


Mirror :

http://rapidshare.com/files/38179418/RUU_Elf_DOPODASIA_WWE_1.11.707.1B_4.1.13.42_02.93. 90_Ship.exe

:D :D :D

[the-equinoxe]

Mirror :

http://rapidshare.com/files/38179418/RUU_Elf_DOPODASIA_WWE_1.11.707.1B_4.1.13.42_02.93. 90_Ship.exe

:D :D :D

Thanks for the mirror.

[TheWizzard2203]

What is this? A fullblown touchable wm6 rom? And can we use it on our wizards?

[the-equinoxe]

What is this? A fullblown touchable wm6 rom? And can we use it on our wizards?

It's an Original HTC-Touch rom.
Only for HTC-Touch devices.

So it's just for playing, dumping and using parts..

[TheWizzard2203]

Aah okay, so the pro's have to decompile and see what parts can be used for our wizards? So mfrazzz, Zoki, Faria, the-equinoxe and all other pro's, i'm sure you guys can perform a miracle for us simple users/romflashers, hehe. Not pushing anything or anyone. Just showing my faith in the pro's that's all.

[cyberdrakula]

thanks for the rapidshare link. The PDAmobiz is kinda difficult to read through.

[TheWizzard2203]

But simple users as we are (read: ...as i am), can't do anything with it i guess.

[masr1979]

But simple users as we are (read: ...as i am), can't do anything with it i guess.

Hey you gotta try, with the right software we can all help out if only a little. I still wait for the "pros" as you say to figure things out, but I also try to understand things better since nobody is born knowing. Just a suggestion.

[peter petrelli]

It isnt my work so i wasnt going to announce it.

Please dont spam that thread with useless posts.

[cacca]

khgihikhnjiooij = touchFlo coming soon to all the WM devices! :rolleyes:

[ericlin0122]

GO TO http://www.4winmobile.com
HERMS FORUM for TOUCHFLO beta, works great with 3d animation

[jasjamming]

word spread fast,

if you are going to post on the 4winmobile thread please only post constructive feedback or information about further optimizations/development. I do not want that thread cluttered and I will delete posts if required.

Cheers
JJ

[openloop]

Hi jasjamming. . .

Quick question is there a separate cab that will have the flicker scroll? and is that per app or applicable to contacts, Messaging and IE?

Thanks and great progress on 4win. .

Cheers!

[iruja]

Somewhere earlier in this thread I posted a cab with the audiomanager I extracted, now I found a newer build.

build 409.721: song title scrolls
build 515.718: song title stays put

Can't find any other differences.
Anyone interested in the new cab?

[brandonmm]

GO TO http://www.4winmobile.com
HERMS FORUM for TOUCHFLO beta, works great with 3d animation

hi. could you please post a more direct link to the thread :D

i found the alpha thread but no beta...
4WinMobile.com - 4 Windows Mobile > PPC/Windows Mobile Phones > HTC Hermes > TouchFlo (alpha) testing and discussion

i must be looking in the wrong place.

thank you.

[mattk_r]

I updated post 2 as best as I know the status.

The French rom works great, but getting it moved to WWE is turning into quite a challenge.