4 GB MicroSD, does it exist? does it work? [Archive]

mijail

13-06-2007, 11:19 PM

I've done a lot of searches, but I haven't found any thread that solves my doubts...

I have a 2 GB Sandisk MicroSD in my HTC P3300 and it works perfectly (in fact I never suffered the corruption bug), but this is very few storage for me so I need a 4 GB memory card. My questions are:

1st - Does it exist any 4 GB MicroSD (not MicroSDHC)? I've readen some posts talking about them and I've seen some links in eBay shops, but nobody has confirmed if they are fakes. Anybody could tell me if 4 GB MicroSD exist and where to buy them?

2nd - If you have a 4 GB MicroSD, have you tested it in your HTC Artemis? Does it work? Have you got WM5 or WM6? Official or "non-official" ROM?

3rd - If you have a 4 GB MicroSDHC, have you tested it in your HTC Artemis? Does it work? Have you got WM5 or WM6? Official or "non-official" ROM?

I've opened a poll to know more clearly if I have the possibility to upgrade my storage card or I'll have to bear with that poor 2 GB Sandisk... Please, vote and write a post telling which brand/model of Artemis and MicroSD/MicroSDHC do you have and what operating system and ROM version do you use :confused:

Sorry for my bad english, I hope you haven't suffered to understand this message :o

Thanks

mijail

18-06-2007, 12:06 PM

Nobody has tested a 4 GB MicroSD/MicroSDHC in his Artemis? I cannot believe it! :eek:

Regards

JanetPanic

18-06-2007, 12:33 PM

Someone did test a 4gb card and it didn't work for hin. On my phone right now so doing a search would be a pain. Search for sdhc in the Artemis mobile 6 forum and you should find it though.

mijail

18-06-2007, 09:30 PM

Someone did test a 4gb card and it didn't work for hin. On my phone right now so doing a search would be a pain. Search for sdhc in the Artemis mobile 6 forum and you should find it though.
Thank you for your answer :)

The thread you were talking about is this one (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1313623). In one of the last posts a person says that he/she has tested a 4 GB Sandisk MicroSD in the Artemis with negative results, but doesn't specify if it's a High Capacity MicroSD (MicroSDHC) and in which OS the test was done :confused:

I would like to know more opinions and to see votes from people who has tested also a 4 GB MicroSD (HC or non-HC), I'm sure that there are more users who has experience with this kind of memory cards and we all would have a more clear idea if they tell us the detailed results :cool:

Regards

JanetPanic

18-06-2007, 11:54 PM

Well if you or someone can point out a couple 4 GB cards that are available in the U.S. online I will buy up to 3 to test just to try and bring some closure to the question.

The only 4GB micro SD card I could find was out of stock (J&R music). Based on a little searching it seems to perpetually be out of stock. I added myself to get an alert should it come in however.

JanetPanic

19-06-2007, 12:09 AM

I have done a bit of research and I am pretty sure the P3300 will not work with a 4GB card, but I am willing to try.

It is not the traces or the pinout on the card as many have surmised that is the problem though. The SDHC uses FAT32 whereas SD uses FAT16. So unless the system has the capability of reading FAT32 the question of circuitry is moot. Everything I have read points to 2GB being the limit for non SDHC and that the P3300 does not support it.

Another common misconception seems to be that there are non SDHC 4GB micro sd cards. I see no evidence that this is the case. Furthering the improbability is the fact that the Fat16 has an upper limit of a 2GB partition. (There is an exception to this where the FAT16 uses 64K clusters, but this is unlikely to be done or work in ANYTHING without custom drivers. I never even heard of this till I did this research.)

None the less I would be happy to be proven wrong.

Registerme

19-06-2007, 08:43 AM

I've read a thread somewhere in this forum where a senior member (or was it a mod?) had drivers to make the artemis sdhc capable which usually is not possible if the hardware is not built for that. Search for it and maybe you'll find it.

JanetPanic

19-06-2007, 09:07 AM

I have read most of those threads and none are conclusive.

You also can not do anything with drivers if the hardware is not already compatible. There is not any question that the p3300 does not officially support microsdhc.

The debate rages and a thread like this keeps coming up.

humps

19-06-2007, 01:41 PM

From what I've read so far, the only thing required is a SDHC driver. There should not be problem on the hardware side.

Some say the WM6 ROMs have SDHC driver. My Wizard has WM6 and the driver on it looks different, but I don't have a SDHC miniSD to verify. Ultimately, to prove it works on Artemis, I need a 4Gb SDHC microSD so I can try the stock drivers and may be copy the drivers from my Wizard.

lSSBl

20-06-2007, 07:09 AM

Hello,

I`ve an MDA compact III which was delivered with WM5 OS. I`ve an 2GB microSD - Card from Sandisk, working perfectly. A little bit small that thing for my big fingers... =:)

Now I was searching for higher capacitys of microSD - Cards and found an SanDisk microSD-HC with a capacity on 4 GB. Bought for app. 60€ and testet on my device: NOTHING. No work. The WM5 OS did`t recognise the Crad. The card is`t shown inside the System. It seems like NO card inside the device. The card is OK. There was a little USB reader in the package, where I can access to the card.

OK, maybe it is the WM5 OS and I decided to upgrade to WM6. (German O² OS using the UPL method...) The upgrade was done in 10 Minutes, but the card works NOT! The same reaction like on WM5.

Now I`m wayting for an patched OS with (maybe) an SD-HC driver inside. Let`s pray...

Best regards, Sven

AlfredENeumann

20-06-2007, 12:01 PM

The Artemis is not able to read/write microSDHC Cards. The Interface of the Artemis permits only FAT16, microSDHC works only with FAT32. Artemis cannot recognise it. Normal microSD with 4 GB if should be at least recognised.

mijail

20-06-2007, 10:01 PM

JanetPanic: Before opening this thread I had done many searches to get information about SDHC, and I know that SDHC compatibility is a hardware problem rather than a software/drivers problem. However, I hoped that our HTC Artemis had a SDHC compatible slot, looking at HTC Trinity's example... By the way, before the Artemis I had a Dell X51v with a 4 GB SD (non-HC) that worked like a charm; I expect that in a -near- future there'll be 4 GB MicroSD cards :confused:

lSSBl: Very interesting your MicroSDHC "review", althought you have ruined most of my hopes. Let's pray that future WM6 official ROMs will give the Artemis the ability to read MicroSDHC cards :(

AlfredENeumann: I tell you the same as JanetPanic, the HTC doesn't have officially a HC compatible slot and however it supports that kind of memory cards. Let's pray...

Regards

kinski

23-06-2007, 04:07 PM

@AlfredENeumann
You're wrong. The Artemis accepts FAT32 as well as FAT16 SD cards, no matter if WM5 or WM6. But that has nothing to do with SDHC, what till now doesn't work with the generic WM6 drivers.
perhaps a solution: http://msmobiles.com/news.php/6308.html

AlfredENeumann

24-06-2007, 07:06 PM

http://www.sandisk.com/Assets/File/pdf/retail/SDHC1.pdf

kinski

25-06-2007, 05:30 PM

lSSBl

26-06-2007, 12:48 PM

Has anybody Tried the SDHC driver from the HTC Trinity yet?

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=293556

cheneymatthews

27-06-2007, 01:33 AM

Hey guys... see if you can help me out.

Installed the 4gb micro sd on my HTC Artemis and the SDHC driver from the previous post... windows mobile 5 doesn't recognize the card.

Not sure what to try, open to any suggestions.

c.

cheneymatthews

27-06-2007, 03:09 PM

Actually, after I've tried the 4gb Micro and installed the Trinity driver.. NONE of my storage cards are recognizable now. So I removed the driver.. and STILL none of my storage cards are recognized. BUSTED?!? Not sure how to fix this?

c

chickyd

28-06-2007, 02:14 PM

SanDisk have just announced an 8GB micro SDHC.... time we got these SDHC cards working in our devices! Anyone have any input on how we can find out if this is possible?

gadjet

09-07-2007, 09:10 AM

Hi all, just to let you know I tried all the WM6 rom's on these forums (thanks to all), reformated my sandisk 4gb microsd card fat 16/32 but no go..:(
(my 2gb sandisk card works fine with fat16/32), even tried trinity driver no go.
Hopefully the new WM6 rom from HTC this week will support it.

MaskedMarauder

09-07-2007, 11:49 PM

I really think it is a hardware issue, if it was as simple as drivers then it would be done already.

Alvinillo

12-07-2007, 07:24 AM

http://www.sandisk.com/Assets/File/pdf/retail/SDHC1.pdf

Has anybody read it?, I'll quote it

Because SDHC, miniSDHC, and microSDHC cards are recognized by new SDHC, miniSDHC, microSDHC host devices differently than standard SD, miniSD, and microSD cards, they are not backwards compatible with legacy SD, miniSD, and microSD format host devices. Standard SD, miniSD, and microSD cards are forward compatible with new SDHC, miniSDHC, and microSDHC host devices.

I'd like to be wrong, but our artemis will never read SDHC cards, it's not a matter of software.

We will have to wait for a 4GB microSD card, if it arrives anytime

BTW, great link AlfredENeumann

Regards

bjarne-dk

12-07-2007, 02:02 PM

I have runing 4GB SD i Qtek 9000 and 9090
The Card is a Transcend 4GB SD 150x
see http://www.flash-memory-store.com/transcend-secure-digital.html?gclid=CISrzYyBoo0CFRbTXgodljfWyw

MaskedMarauder

12-07-2007, 02:50 PM

Yes, but they are talking about a microSD card, not a full size one. And microSD are only available up to 2 GB

j.tarantula

13-07-2007, 08:55 AM

microSD slot trying with micro SDHC it's like a usb(on artemis) to try to do usb host, I think it's imposible.. or I d'ont know something..

sorry 4 my english, I hope you understand me..

gadjet

13-07-2007, 06:05 PM

Just upgraded to latest HTC rom, no joy sandisk 4Gb microsd does not work...:(
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=316995

lSSBl

19-07-2007, 01:00 PM

Hello,

has anybody followed up these thread for an ASUS PDA? ASUS Released an SDHC Patch for WM5 and WM6 wich brings SDHC crads to live. In the thread below are lings for the .dll files and such things.

http://forum.ppcwarez.org/viewtopic.php?f=38&t=19745&start=1305

To all hardware guru`s, shall we try to transfer these patch to the 3300?

Stuhl_im_Orbit

24-07-2007, 07:22 PM

Are there news about this patch?

lalobr

28-07-2007, 05:45 PM

Does this mean it should work?
http://www.europe.htc.com/en/htcp3300/support/faq.html?id=29

MaskedMarauder

28-07-2007, 10:53 PM

Does this mean it should work?
http://www.europe.htc.com/en/htcp3300/support/faq.html?id=29

No, someone else saw that and emailed HTC and they say that is not correct, an error on their web site.

mark buckle

01-08-2007, 08:39 AM

I tried a sandisk 4GB micro SDHC on WM5 and that did not work.

does anyone know if they will work on WM6?

joe de mannen

03-08-2007, 02:03 PM

I did call the support line and they told me the Artemis only supports up to 2Gb. It's not hardware related and it might be changed in a windows mobile 6 upgrade.

J.

nlcluigi

07-08-2007, 11:44 PM

Your microSD don't work becouse it isn't SD ... is SDHC. You must buy an SD, and not SDHC. From my understandings, SDHC is not supported.

Regards,
Cristian Nica

Stuhl_im_Orbit

09-08-2007, 09:37 PM

One question in between: What about the poll? Some users pro 4 GB! Was their vote a mistake or was is not? Are there working microSDs out there? I'm really confused :(.

mhuhn

10-08-2007, 12:32 PM

One question in between: What about the poll? Some users pro 4 GB! Was their vote a mistake or was is not? Are there working microSDs out there? I'm really confused :(.

You're right, I was wondering about that, too. Obviously, some of the voters own other ppcs like Hermes: you can see the posts of the users in forums of other devices.

Sir1

10-08-2007, 02:05 PM

The only way you can get 4 or more GB in a MicroSD is with the new format SDHC. It is not possible to get over 2 GB in a "normal" MicroSD.
WM5 does not support SDHC, so the only way you can use MicroSDHC with 4 GB or more is to upgrade to WM6. This has been stated several times in this forum.
So the answer to the question of this thread is NO! 4 GB MicroSD does not exist!!! Therefore the poll is somewhat misleading.
Regards
Søren

mhuhn

10-08-2007, 02:49 PM

The only way you can get 4 or more GB in a MicroSD is with the new format SDHC. It is not possible to get over 2 GB in a "normal" MicroSD.
Can you prove that? wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MicroSD) says something different. Also look on www.goldenmars.com (http://www.goldenmars.com/products_in2.php?t_id=7&id=19)

so the only way you can use MicroSDHC with 4 GB or more is to upgrade to WM6. This has been stated several times in this forum.

Yes but other things have also been stated. p.E. that it's not a driver but a hardware problem. Nobody knows if the hardware in the Artemis is able to read SDHC. And for sure a WM6 upgrade alone doesn't make the Artemis compatible to SDHC.

fbgeeks-qtek

10-08-2007, 04:09 PM

hi, i think it's possible for Artemis hardware to drive SDHC.

Because, the unit controleur microSD in Artemis is the cpu (omap850).

And Texas Instrument say omap drivers sdhc works.

So, they are no difference plug microSD vs microSDHC. Just search and change driver omap controleur.

thegadgetman

11-08-2007, 12:26 PM

So the big question is...

Can anyone verify (maybe through as screenshot or something) that they have a 4GB MicroSDHC card working in their orbit/P3300/etc.?

xmas

16-08-2007, 10:46 AM

So the big question is...

Can anyone verify (maybe through as screenshot or something) that they have a 4GB MicroSDHC card working in their orbit/P3300/etc.?

Good question... :/

designo

17-08-2007, 04:31 PM

Hello

i have an Orbit with WM6 (from O2) and a Sandisk 4GB SDHC MicroSD. And??? ............................No work. There is no card present is the answer!

Sorry

thegadgetman

17-08-2007, 06:08 PM

I have bought one and it doesn't work too on the official UK WM6 ROM :-(

So the next question is can we install software to make it work?
as some people have said that in theory the h/w support is there.

Any ideas??

aslan998

18-08-2007, 12:15 PM

It's not hardware related and it might be changed in a firmwork upgrade.

Juice05

18-08-2007, 12:50 PM

Ah ok, so it is likely that at somepoint the p3300 will support sdhc? It's the only thing putting me off ordering one!

MaskedMarauder

18-08-2007, 02:11 PM

It's not hardware related and it might be changed in a firmwork upgrade.
Technical evidence or source please?

kinski

18-08-2007, 04:14 PM

Have a look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Digital_card#SDHC

aslan998

19-08-2007, 11:04 PM

Technical evidence or source please?

nope, mate

athor

20-08-2007, 09:25 PM

Hi @all,
I bought a micro SDHC card from SanDisk. On my PC all is working well. I connected the SD card in my HTC Artemis device and the memory card wasn't detected in the device. I'm very sadden about the HTC device does not work with the "state of the art" memory card. I'm thinking about to reselling the card and downgrade to a 2GByte memory card.
If any body out there who has also a hope that HTC will support a firmware upgrade. I have installed windows mobile 6.0, but this also has no access.

Hope you can help us !!!

Best regards to all.

josef.bilek

20-08-2007, 09:47 PM

Hello, please, try somebody this. It is from ASUS and maybe it works wit another devices too. I have tried it with normal SD card (FAT16) in the slot and it not works. I have not the SDHC card (FAT32) and maybe this driver is not only backward compatible, I hope.

http://rapidshare.com/files/47557455/SDHC_V5.CAB.html

fenris

22-08-2007, 10:21 AM

mhuhn

23-08-2007, 11:50 AM

Nobody with a microSDHC card to test this driver? :-/

designo

23-08-2007, 07:42 PM

tested this driver with normal microSD(FAT32). Device find no SDcard.
Install SDHC driver from HTCAthena-> works with 2Gb FAT32 microSD.
Driverlnk:http://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?skinid=2&showtopic=33423

No work. Device find no SDcard.

Tested with WM6 (from O2) and a Sandisk 4GB SDHC MicroSD

josef.bilek

23-08-2007, 10:07 PM

jontymisra

27-08-2007, 07:17 PM

How did people find 4gb MicroSD cards? I thought all the new ones were MicroSDHC..

TeddY89h

30-08-2007, 11:51 PM

Nono, Fenris is right. Athena driver seems that working. At least 2GB and FAT32. FAT32 is crucial, with Athena driver you are not able to read FAT16. But I have not tested it with 4GB SDHC card. But on the other hand Athena driver seems for me quite unstable, especially with BateryStatus and overclocking. But I havent so much time to test it properly.

Hey! That might be the answer? Anyone out there to test a SDHC with this driver???

By the way: There are 4 GB SDcards available, non SDHC ones and working with the HTC Magician! So why note microSDs with non SDHC?

cottonpickers

31-08-2007, 02:41 PM

TeddY89h

31-08-2007, 07:03 PM

by the way here you have an initiative to express your longing for SDHC-compatibility:

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=326494

aslan998

07-09-2007, 09:27 PM

This CAB works for me!!!

I have a HTC Artemis P3300 with WM6, Radio-v02.97.90, 4gb SDHC

and it finally works

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=310456&page=4

:D

dcbehan

14-09-2007, 06:59 PM

Using P3300, B&B 4.1 & 2gb non-sdhc card this cab is very unstable particularly when coming out of standby (pressing power button to turn back on). It seems to work ok from a soft reset but if the device goes into standby mode then the storage card is no longer read.

I have ordered a 4gb sdhc card and will report back with results when I have had a chance to test.

db

MaskedMarauder

15-09-2007, 10:34 AM

It does perhaps confirm it is a software issue though and that the hardware can work with SDhc

rickgillyon

15-09-2007, 11:15 AM

This CAB works for me!!!
I have a HTC Artemis P3300 with WM6, Radio-v02.97.90, 4gb SDHC
and it finally works
Anything weird about your setup? I have WM6 with sdhc.cab, doesn't work, can't see the 4GB card at all...

konstant

16-09-2007, 01:11 AM

Sandisk: SD CARD MICRO 6GB (http://www.telescom.de/Zubehoer/Foto-Video/Speicherkarten/SD-CARD-MICRO-6GB::221349.html?referer=froogle&language=de)

dcbehan

20-09-2007, 10:43 PM

Just reporting back as promised. Got the SanDisk 4gb SDHC today. Installed the SDHC cab and soft reset. No joy. P3300 doesn't even see the card. That said, I haven't specifically formatted it in FAT32. I'll give that a go tonight and see if there's any difference.

aslan998, are you still successfully working with the 4gb card?

db

dcbehan

21-09-2007, 02:52 AM

The card was apparently preformatted in FAT32 but I reformatted it again with the same result. The device can not see the card.

db

Paul Guijt

22-09-2007, 10:32 PM

This CAB works for me!!!

I have a HTC Artemis P3300 with WM6, Radio-v02.97.90, 4gb SDHC

and it finally works

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=310456&page=4

:D

Installed this on my MDA Compact III (with radio update installed) and tried to use a 6Gb card. Even Pocket Mechanic didn't recognize the card.

So, what made it work for you??

agfsilva

23-09-2007, 07:23 PM

jarod10

23-09-2007, 10:27 PM

Idem !

I bought a MicroSDHC 4G Sandisk for my P3300 and it doesn't work.
No Card fuond !

WM5 original -> KO
WM5 patched (for lost file in microSD) -> KO
WM6 AJE 1.50 Fr -> KO
WM6 AJE 1.50 Fr with SDHC Cab -> KO

Paul Guijt

23-09-2007, 11:41 PM

I have seen one post about SDCARD with more then 2GB, as long i remember yo need to run one CAB to alow the system to recoginize it.

I have download it but didnt test, you can do it yourself, remember that some works some dont. This is for 4GB, i dont know if works for more than 4GB.

Regards,

I'm wasting my time on repairing my MDA, that was damaged (software wise) by trying out apparrently the same cab. Don't post cab's that you have not tested yourself, please.

epl

24-09-2007, 05:33 PM

Answer of HTC:

Customer email address:elias@********.***

Good Evening,
Thank you for your enquiry. HTC devices running Windows Mobile 5 will only officially support up to a 2Gb memory card with no compression or High-Speed or other special features. HTC devices running Windows Mobile 6, however, will support up to 4Gb memory cards.

The Windows Mobile 6 update for the P3300 has not been released yet, but please feel free to sign up to the HTC E-Club at HYPERLINK "file://www.europe.htc.com"www.europe.htc.com and you will be informed via email when this is released.

Should you have any other problem, please do not hesitate to call us. Your Local number can be found at http://www.europe.htc.com/support/csbyphone.html

Best regards,
Andy
HTC Europe
callservice@htceurope.com
http://www.htc.com

kinski

25-09-2007, 07:50 PM

I've got another information from HTC a couple of weeks ago:
Our apologies regarding the FAQ, it is currently incorrect and the department who is in charge of the website has been informed.

The FAQ should state that we support up to 4GB with SD cards and 2GB with Mini and Micro-SD. We do not currently support SDHC/2.0 and as such we could not say as to whether these formats would work correctly with your device.

So as to repeat your question on capacity briefly, your HTC P3300 is supported for use with up to a 2GB Micro-SD card.

szgabor

01-10-2007, 10:28 PM

Has anyone thought of 'wiring' in a 4gb or 8gb SD card or mini SD (not micro SD, but SD) Obviously it would need to sit outside the normal area, but thought someone might be ingenious to get something working. That way you could use a non hc card.

I also had such perverted thoughts back in early 2007, when I planned to buy this phone for quite cheap. One idea was to use a MiniSD to SD adaptor as a slim MiniSD socket, and glue it on a battery cover. I planned to use the body of a dead/very cheap MicroSD card to gain access to the pins in a warranty-safe way. One difficulty I identified was that the SIM card covers the entire MicroSD slot, so I would have to cut a small window on it for the wires. (Don't wonder on this, it's safe as everything in the SIM card is under the metal contacts, the rest is simple plastic and is there only to make handling easier)

This is how far I went in research as the guy who offered the phone hesitated too much and I lost my patience, and bought a Treo 680.
(However, there is still a slim chance that I'll be back in the PPC world, as his offer is still alive, and for that price I won't let it go. But he has to find a better phone first, and probably this phone won't last that long in his hands)

Stuhl_im_Orbit

03-10-2007, 04:25 PM

There is a new original WM6 ROM out there, direct from HTC!!!

They promised that it will support SDHS! If it doesn't, my hope is gone...

Can anybody test it?

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=333803

rickgillyon

03-10-2007, 04:48 PM

They promised that it will support SDHS!
Who promised this? If HTC support, they have been known to get it wrong in the past... :)

Stuhl_im_Orbit

03-10-2007, 05:13 PM

Who promised this? If HTC support, they have been known to get it wrong in the past... :)

Yeah, HTC support. I'm still hoping until somebody tests this new ROM...

rickgillyon

03-10-2007, 05:16 PM

Yeah, HTC support. I'm still hopeing until somebody tests this new ROM...
Give it an hour or two, someone will give us the bad news...

Stuhl_im_Orbit

03-10-2007, 05:17 PM

Give it an hour or two, someone will give us the bad news...

Of course, there's nothing else for it but to wait...

epl

03-10-2007, 05:19 PM

Give it an hour or two, someone will give us the bad news...

The SDHC doesn't work 4gb in the new Rom, I have already sent my reclamation to HTC, since they had promised me that it would work.

Stuhl_im_Orbit

06-10-2007, 12:00 AM

O K ... or better K O??

I'm just hoping that there might be a xda devs programming wonder... maybe it will work!

but this htc support... embarrassing...

Registerme

17-10-2007, 09:23 PM

That means, that the SDHC card is NOT backward compatible - you can't format it with FAT16, but you can format any 'normal' (micro) sd- card with FAT32, and it still works at the artemis. Tested by me, and a lot of other guys. :)

Actually you CAN format SDHC cards with FAT 16. I split up my 6 GB SDHC into three partitions (each 2 GB or less) formatting each in FAT 16. That didn't work out but it might be a step closer to the solution I hope (if there is one).

I will try out a few patches on a dedicated SDHC ROM to see if that helps. As far as I know not one person in this thread that voted "Yes, it works" got it really working or has an Artemis. Either they had the B&B version with the battery bug or they have a different device.

I will extract some drivers from other ROMs and will check if that works. If not we are all doomed :eek:

Registerme

22-10-2007, 09:08 PM

So now I tested a Sandisk 6GB and 4GB microSDHC card and no success. It seems as if it was impossible to read SDHC cards in my device. Up to now not one of the people that claimed to get it running on their device came back to help us.

Did you notice that three of the people that voted Yes for working SDHC didn't post anything yet? They only voted! Seems to me like someone wants to manipulate this voting and try to fool us.

I can't recommend anyone to buy a SDHC card right now. Even if you think it will work in a few month....WAIT....those cards will be cheaper then anyways! I think I have some extra memory for my digital camera now :D

NikMel

22-10-2007, 09:19 PM

I think they did that by mistake :o

So now I tested a Sandisk 6GB and 4GB microSDHC card and no success. It seems as if it was impossible to read SDHC cards in my device. Up to now not one of the people that claimed to get it running on their device came back to help us.

Did you notice that three of the people that voted Yes for working SDHC didn't post anything yet? They only voted! Seems to me like someone wants to manipulate this voting and try to fool us.

I can't recommend anyone to buy a SDHC card right now. Even if you think it will work in a few month....WAIT....those cards will be cheaper then anyways! I think I have some extra memory for my digital camera now :D

uniqueboy

22-10-2007, 09:44 PM

I will extract some drivers from other ROMs and will check if that works. If not we are all doomed :eek:

Will it make a difference if the drivers are embedded in a cooked rom as opposed to just being installed in a .cab?

NikMel

22-10-2007, 10:02 PM

It can make difference

Will it make a difference if the drivers are embedded in a cooked rom as opposed to just being installed in a .cab?

Registerme

22-10-2007, 10:22 PM

I think it matters a lot. The 66,5 KB cabs that are in this forum are all the same and try to replace two files that are located in ROM, as far as I know that usually doesn't work. I built my own ROM and didn't get it to work either, wasn't surprised too much since I'm not the only one in this forum that knows something about ROM cooking :rolleyes:

Since none of the Chefs here got it to work either (or has no SHDC card) I suppose that it really doesn't work but I'd be happy if someone tells me that I'm wrong. :D

NikMel

22-10-2007, 10:53 PM

You first have to assign the right address in the memory/rom.
Just replace a file in rom and cook it mostly don't work.

I think it matters a lot. The 66,5 KB cabs that are in this forum are all the same and try to replace two files that are located in ROM, as far as I know that usually doesn't work. I built my own ROM and didn't get it to work either, wasn't surprised too much since I'm not the only one in this forum that knows something about ROM cooking :rolleyes:

Since none of the Chefs here got it to work either (or has no SHDC card) I suppose that it really doesn't work but I'd be happy if someone tells me that I'm wrong. :D

lSSBl

29-10-2007, 11:16 AM

4GB microSD (!!!) from NOKIA...

http://shop.nokia.de/nokia-de/product.aspx?sku=3744562&culture=de-DE

mugglesquop

30-10-2007, 08:40 AM

4GB microSD (!!!) from NOKIA...

http://shop.nokia.de/nokia-de/product.aspx?sku=3744562&culture=de-DE

they aren't SD, they are SDHC :rolleyes:

rickgillyon

30-10-2007, 08:49 AM

they aren't SD, they are SDHC :rolleyes:
Doesn't say so on the card like most of them do...although I'm sure you're right. I've owned non-SDHC 4GB SD and MiniSD cards, I have no idea why no-one has done it with MicroSD too.

mugglesquop

30-10-2007, 09:49 AM

hmmm... i had a look at the UK Nokia site, and it doesnt even list it... i usually use www.mymemory.co.uk for buying cards, and they only have up to 2GB in SD, above that they are SDHC.

I think the only way we are going to find out, is if someone trys it!

ng459

30-10-2007, 04:38 PM

nokia europe lists the same card (mu-41) as an sdhc!!!

mugglesquop

01-11-2007, 09:40 AM

nokia europe lists the same card (mu-41) as an sdhc!!!

thats what i thought, but couldnt find it on the UK site...

miguelo

04-11-2007, 06:14 PM

in this forum

http://www.pxdxa.com/simple/index.php?t48437.html

they post a cab file that seems to work with some devices, but no idea about the artemis.I have no sdhc and did not try it, so be careful if you test it.

regards

mugglesquop

05-11-2007, 06:05 PM

fenris

06-11-2007, 09:28 AM

Sorry,but this driver do not work.
http://www.ppc-welt.info/community/showthread.php?p=934005#post934005

RafilK

06-11-2007, 05:11 PM

I found the Nokia 4 GB MicroSD Transflash (seemingly not SDHC) on www.eBay.co.uk see item no. 330171081575 or follow link

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/4GB-NOKIA-MU-41-MICROSD-TRANSFLASH-MEMORY-CARD-N-95_W0QQitemZ330171081575QQihZ014QQcategoryZ98876QQ ssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Is this a non-SDHC card and has anyone yet tried it in an O2 XDA Orbit with WM6 Professional?

Ddriver

06-11-2007, 05:19 PM

The Nokia 4GB MicroSD Card M-41 is a SDHC Card!

Reed: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=340571 ;-)

Greets Daniel.

Registerme

07-11-2007, 01:08 PM

I guess I was wrong.

uniqueboy

07-11-2007, 01:31 PM

Anyone tried that yet? He says he's done something that may enable SDHC, but not been able to test it.

Psyco_01

07-11-2007, 06:14 PM

Hey Folks

Just found in a German PPC community a rom where one user posted that this rom will work with a 4GB sdhc card.
Link for the thread where the user staded 4gb will work-> http://www.ppc-welt.info/community/showthread.php?t=120038
Link to the rom thread ->http://www.ppc-welt.info/community/showthread.php?t=119939
My problem is that I have no sdhc card to test it.
All users who can speak and of course read German are welcome to test this rom.

Please let us know if the waiting has an end.

uniqueboy

07-11-2007, 07:07 PM

Hi Psyco_01, that is Bepe's rom, it's available on our forum:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=340748

Psyco_01

07-11-2007, 07:39 PM

Hi uniqueboy,

Oh that’s right just checked the thread and not the source…
(~~~~ Was too exited :-) ~~~~)
Ok the thread is not too long right now (only some days old) but if we will get it confirmed that sdhc will work....

Please test it

uniqueboy

07-11-2007, 08:33 PM

Someone has tested it, it works, donate to Bepe!

DonAkino

07-11-2007, 08:54 PM

A couple of people did test it. It works! With Bepe's rom for Artemis whe can finally use microSDHC cards!
4GB SDHC confirmation
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1646984&postcount=250

petervbeck

07-11-2007, 08:58 PM

i just have to say it:
yeah yeah yeah yeah yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah ! :D

DonAkino

07-11-2007, 08:58 PM

And also 6 GB SDHC confirmation
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1646928&postcount=44

I'm going to get me one too tomorrow!! :D :D

Registerme

07-11-2007, 11:36 PM

Freak! I just sold my 4GB and my 6GB card at ebay! But lucky me that there are going to be 8 GB cards out very soon :D

mugglesquop

08-11-2007, 09:02 AM

wow, this is good. Anyone got a recomendation as to where is best to get one from?

Registerme

11-11-2007, 05:39 PM

You can buy 4 and 6 GB there: http://amazon.co.uk/ prices are ok. In a few weeks they will have 8GB too.

alfiejts

11-11-2007, 10:33 PM

Yep - I can confirm.

Just upgraded to Meschle's 3.01 WWE ROM and my 6gb SDHC card is working just great.....

RafilK

11-11-2007, 11:38 PM

Good to see that the >2GB SD card problem has been solved. Can someone confirm whether if I load the new ROM it will still be compatible with all usual O2 functionality on my Orbit?

You may be interested to read the rather unhelpful response I got from O2 on the subject of >2GB SD compatibility, see below:

----------------------

Good Morning Rafil,

Thank you for your email

Unfortunately with the Orbit, you cannot use cards bigger than 2gb in size. The device only accepts standard SD cards up to 2gb, and does not accept any SDHC cards. As the Orbit is coming to end of life shortly, no further updates or fixes may be available.

Kind Regards
Paul Lonsdale
O2 Customer Technical Support UK

If you're looking for help, check out our extensive 24/7 help facility at http://www.o2.co.uk/help. Please remember to include both your mobile phone number as well as an alternative daytime contact number in any communication.

Please be aware our email address has now changed. candsmdata@o2mail.co.uk replaces o2datasupport@o2.com - please do not reply to our old address or send emails to that address, as this will be closed in the near future.

O2 (UK) Limited, Registered Office: 260 Bath Road, Slough, Berkshire SL1 4DX. Registered in England No 1743099

Original Message to O2 Follows:
------------------------
I have an O2 XDA Orbit running windows mobile 6 professional. I would like to use a MicroSD card larger than 2 GB in size but I am told that the XDA Orbit is not compatible with MicroSD SDHC cards especially above 2 GB. Is there a software or firmware fix due out from HTC to solve this problem?
Regards -- Rafil

Registerme

14-11-2007, 04:03 PM

What O2 functions are you talking about exactly?

RafilK

14-11-2007, 04:55 PM

Dear registerme,

I suppose I am referring to the O2 customisations of WM6, e.g. O2 Active, and also a concern that the phone I have is locked to O2. Like quite a few members of the xda-developers, I'm new to upgrading ROMs so I need to know if I install Bepe's ROM (which actually looks pretty good) what I would be giving up, e.g.

- will my phone still work in exactly the same way on the O2 network?
- will the ROM have applications like O2 Active, O2 Operator Settings, Voice Speed Dial (it has Voice Command - same thing?), Zip ?
- I assume the regional settings will allow everyhting to be viewed in English, not just German?

Lastly, How can I back up my device completely (RAM I know can be done easily via Activesync or to MicroSD card but how about the ROM area) before installing the new ROM? Is there a guide on the website detailing how to go about installing new developer ROMs?

Thanks -- Rafil.

Registerme

15-11-2007, 10:38 AM

well, since this is a thread about 4GB microSD cards I will give you the short answer, send me a PM for the long version:

Install the USPL patch, that unlocks your phone for any other Artemis ROM. Backup your files first for example with sprite backup or manually copy the important files and use PPCPimBackup for contacts and so on. You could load one of the extended O2 ROMs to your device and you should have all the apps from O2 you have right now.

StefChri

16-11-2007, 01:19 PM

mugglesquop

21-11-2007, 09:52 AM

any news on a cab for WM5?

Cheers

alfiejts

21-11-2007, 01:41 PM

There's no chance for WM5, I'm afraid.

This has only been possible on WM6 because Microsoft have released an upgrade to WinCE 6 that allows SDHC block-mode access to a wider range of card reader hardware.

There won't be any future WM5 upgrades from Microsoft.....

mugglesquop

21-11-2007, 02:16 PM

ah well. cheers anyway! WM6 it is... lol

pingu123

21-11-2007, 04:11 PM

Yep - I can confirm.

Just upgraded to Meschle's 3.01 WWE ROM and my 6gb SDHC card is working just great.....

Can anyone tell me where to get the ROM upgrade from? I googled for it, but couldn't see anything listed. I'm computer literate but would need some instructions on how to tackle a ROM upgrade.
Thanks

Lemontea

23-11-2007, 10:09 AM

Can anyone tell me where to get the ROM upgrade from? I googled for it, but couldn't see anything listed. I'm computer literate but would need some instructions on how to tackle a ROM upgrade.
Thanks

yeah i wanna know to :P:P:P:P:P

mugglesquop

23-11-2007, 10:38 AM

have a look on the stickies for instructions.... there are threads for the various ROMs, usually with instructions too :)

mminbcn

27-11-2007, 10:22 AM

Just another one confirming that the SDHC cards can work on Artemis. (HTC also told me that this was a hardware limitation...)
I have a 6GB card for more than one week and I did not have any problem with it or with the filesystem.

I have tested it with two Artemis (MDA & XDA Orbit) and both work.

Not needed to install or do anything else than flashing the WM6 rom from Bepe:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=340748&highlight=sdhc

Thank you Bepe!

Attached I send some screenshots of it.

RafilK

07-12-2007, 03:56 PM

just keep your original WM6 rom and install the following cab and do a softreset.
Externally format your sdhc card with FAT32 - enter it and... taaataaa!

works!

http://members.cable24.at/immogroup/HTC-P3300/SDHC-Artemis.cab

Thanks StefChri. I just received my 8GB SanDisk MicroSD SDHC card from eBayer seller (nextdaymemory) today and I followed your instructions to install the CAB file "SDHC-Artemis". The card works perfectly in my O2 XDA Orbit, WM6, ROM 3.4.206.2 WWE 18/4/07, Radio 02.67.90.

bollyfan2005

24-02-2008, 05:17 AM

Hi,

I tried today 4GB SDHC on my HTC-P3300 and it works fine. All I did was downloaded "HC-Artemis.cab" and ran. Did power on/off. My HTC detected and showing 3.8GB free space.

No need to flash latest ROM, it just works with the existing WM6.
My device settings are,
ROM Version : 3.4.206.2 WWE
Radio Version : 02.67.90

little_buda

10-03-2008, 10:01 PM

Hi,

I´m now having a 4 Gb running in my SPV M650 (Orange). I managed to have it alive with WM6 and installing the drivers for the card.

I'd tried before with WM5 but there was no way to see it working due to hardware issues as it's already covered in other threads.

Regards

bollyfan2005

11-03-2008, 12:12 AM

Good that problem got solved, this is very good.

Hi,

I´m now having a 4 Gb running in my SPV M650 (Orange). I managed to have it alive with WM6 and installing the drivers for the card.

I'd tried before with WM5 but there was no way to see it working due to hardware issues as it's already covered in other threads.

Regards

krijger

11-03-2008, 02:34 PM

Nobody has tested a 4 GB MicroSD/MicroSDHC in his Artemis? I cannot believe it! :eek:

Regards

I've got a 4gb sdhc card from sandisk. It works fine on windows 6.0 and 6.1.
With the older roms you will need a patch. Then it will work.

Only when you want to update the radio version or windows you will have to remove the card otherwise it will not install the application.

The sdhc cards works also on my vox

XLOOX

13-03-2008, 09:14 PM

8Gb sandisk micro SDHC works absolutely FINE in Artemis......of course you need a suitable cooked ROM like Meschles Artemis Touch 4.01 WM6.1 WWE ROM, 5.2.19199 (Build 19199.1.0.0)

or the SDHC cab for Artemis original WM6 ROM if you are not a good cook.

both of which can be found in XDA Developers under Artemis

Claddagh

15-03-2008, 07:10 PM

I've got a 4gb sdhc card from sandisk. It works fine on windows 6.0 and 6.1.
With the older roms you will need a patch. Then it will work.

Only when you want to update the radio version or windows you will have to remove the card otherwise it will not install the application.

The sdhc cards works also on my vox

Hi,
I'm still on Win5. Where can I find the patch?
My 4gb card just arrived but not working yet. Help!

krijger

16-03-2008, 10:52 AM

Hi,
I'm still on Win5. Where can I find the patch?
My 4gb card just arrived but not working yet. Help!

For windows mobile 5 and 6
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=58063&d=1194986892

For artemis
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=61681&d=1197633430

One of the two will work! :D

EazyVG

20-03-2008, 10:19 AM

Just got my new 4GB Transcend Class6 microSD ... working nicely with WM6.1 ROM with microSDHC support.

shawndh

15-04-2008, 02:10 PM

I have a Scandisk 4GB MicroSDHC working perfectly on my P3300. I'm using Meschle's Premium 2.0 ROM. (the best WM6 Artemis ROM ever)

cosmabgd

29-04-2008, 05:36 PM

i have a sandisk 8GB on xda orbit with ARTEMIS TOUCH 4.02 and it is work perffect :p

ady bolton

01-05-2008, 12:38 PM

Ok have an XDA orbit with WM6 as supplied from O2 apart from a few skin alterations, have a 2gb SD card works fine but is too small. Have a 4gb SDHC card which isnt recognised. BUT I NEED THE EXTRA SPACE....
have searched all morning to try to get a reg edit or something- any help appreaciated :confused:

khurana5

02-05-2008, 10:20 PM

Works perfectly fine on Artemis + SanDisk 4Gb SDHC with WM6 , Downloaded it from this link , works like a charm . Thanks a lot Guys

For artemis
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=61681&d=1197633430

cushcalc

12-05-2008, 04:36 PM

. . . The SDHC uses FAT32 whereas SD uses FAT16. So unless the system has the capability of reading FAT32 the question of circuitry is moot. Everything I have read points to 2GB being the limit for non SDHC and that the P3300 does not support it.

Another common misconception seems to be that there are non SDHC 4GB micro sd cards. I see no evidence that this is the case. Furthering the improbability is the fact that the Fat16 has an upper limit of a 2GB partition. (There is an exception to this where the FAT16 uses 64K clusters, but this is unlikely to be done or work in ANYTHING without custom drivers. I never even heard of this till I did this research.)

None the less I would be happy to be proven wrong.

I don't know about microSD, but I have a miniSD that is 4GB, non-SDHC, formatted to FAT32, and working splendidly in my 8125. From all I've read, both the 8125 and 3125 are hardware-incapable of using SDHC, but supposedly HTC has said that up to 4GB has been tested in Qtek 8500 (see here (http://www.htcwiki.com/page/Qtek+8500+Specs?t=anon))

andreas28

20-05-2008, 07:48 AM

installed an sandisc 8Gb sdhc card and working.. (after rom upgrade tho)

incredulous

07-07-2008, 12:24 AM

Right, Maplin (UK) sell the standard (Non-HC) 4GB TF cards. I know this as I work there. We always have in store at least 15-20 in stock. I have tried this in a stock, totally unmodified XDA Orbit and it worked. Trying a 4GB HC card in the same stock Orbit, and that also worked.

Sorry I didnt read the whole thread, but I hope that helps any wonderers :D

rorry

08-07-2008, 06:06 PM

Hello,

I have a Scandisk 8GB MicroSDHC and it works Great!!! :)

on my P3300.

laguna33p

12-07-2008, 11:20 AM

Just a bit confused with all the posts....I have the orbit running WM6 so will a 4/6/8Gb work without downloading the cab file (SDHD-Artemis-cab)? If not, downloading this cab file opens up about 6 files like set-up, drivers, sdbus etc so do I transfer all these to the storage card or to which file on the orbit? Thanks

drakfisken

14-07-2008, 01:47 AM

I got 8GB microSDHC card to my artemis and it works perfectly, but when u are flashing a rom need to take the card out and then place it back when rom-flash is finished

sorry for bad english

//Drakfisken

Skyjouby

15-07-2008, 06:55 AM

Sandisk 8GB MicroSDHC is working without trouble on Artemis with Artemis touch 4.02 rom ;)
Have a god day

dex022

19-08-2008, 10:02 AM

Sandisk 8GB MicroSDHC is working without trouble on Artemis with Artemis touch 4.02 rom ;)
Have a god day

Hi,could some of this cards work:SDHC 4GB Kingston Class6,Transcend 8GB Secure Digital High Capacity Class6.
I can't find Sandisk in Serbia and since we are black hole of Europe i can't order nothing from abroad if i want to avoid post office and customs ripoff.

waragi

20-08-2008, 05:04 AM

If you have upgraded to wm6.1 you can just about use any SDHC card including the 8gb ones?.

dex022

20-08-2008, 08:44 AM

If you have upgraded to wm6.1 you can just about use any SDHC card including the 8gb ones?.

I have wm6.1 and 4.02 rom,so i could take my chance then with kingston and transcend :) ?

Gr8-Jen

26-08-2008, 09:59 AM

I have wm6.1 and 4.02 rom,so i could take my chance then with kingston and transcend :) ?

find a stable ROM with SDHC support:
B&B V5 ROM (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=364883)
(Or any other ROM that says SDHC support)
I am using it and works great on a scandisk 8 Gb SDHC.

When it supports SDHC it must support any brand because SDHC is a standard (like SD and MMC) that must work on any device that support this.

The only reason for choosing a certain brand is whether it is stable enough
(never had problems with scandisk in my live before)

If it is not posssible to find a store try to look at the internet for a store that you can pay on delivery.

Good luck

dex022

01-09-2008, 03:02 PM

find a stable ROM with SDHC support:
B&B V5 ROM (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=364883)
(Or any other ROM that says SDHC support)
I am using it and works great on a scandisk 8 Gb SDHC.

When it supports SDHC it must support any brand because SDHC is a standard (like SD and MMC) that must work on any device that support this.

The only reason for choosing a certain brand is whether it is stable enough
(never had problems with scandisk in my live before)

If it is not posssible to find a store try to look at the internet for a store that you can pay on delivery.

Good luck

Download :

Black & Blue v5.0 Cube

Black & Blue v5 without Cube

I don't understand what version should i use?