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RichardKAthena
20-06-2007, 01:30 AM
Now they've seen them, I don't mind posting these.

Essentially, of the cases I've seen for the Athena - the standard one, the PDair (also marketed by Brando), and Piel Frama, the Piel Frama is the best case available, although all of them have compromises.

Where the Piel Frama scores points is in the lightweight construction, high quality materials, and choice of finish and colour range. It is the least bulky of the cases, and looks and feels like a high quality product. By comparison, the standard case is sloppy and doesn't seem to allow the keyboard to sit correctly flush with the screen, and the PDair feels like it was made with materials General Motors would have deemed suitable for Cadillac... in the 1970s.

The push stud to secure the clasp means there is a small bump under the keyboard, which will make it irritating to use if you spend a lot of time typing with the system on a desk. It does clip the case shut securely, however.

Fit and finish varies, as each case is hand made. Consistent issues are a partially blocked headphone port, "tight" clearances for the stylus and camera button, and sometime misaligned status window - it WILL work, but how much angle you will need on the case seems to vary from machine to machine. Assume 80% of users will probably get it to work in an acceptable fashion, and it probably won't be far off the mark.

The lightweight construction of the Athena case means there is a degree of flex and variation in the screen surround. This is the tradeoff for a slim, tight-fitting case instead of the solid, flat area presented by the PDair cases. In use it can sometimes be an issue, but no more so than the tendency of the main unit to slide out of the PDair, pushing the joystick - cosmetically it doesn't look as "perfectly aligned", which is a disappointment in a case of this cost, but doesn't actually interfere with the function of the machine.

The new case will be slightly tight; this will cause it to tilt a little forward when the keyboard is attached. Be patient and let it fold right back on itself, and this will cease to be an issue! Whilst looking at the keyboard, the magnetic attachment is as good as the standard case, and lines up with the status display perhaps a little TOO well - the stiff edge is perfectly aligned, and raises slightly presenting an increased wear possibility, unless you jiggle the fit a little before putting it in a pocket.

Ultimately Piel Frama have made a very good effort with the case. Whilst it's frustrating, in some ways, to consider this a 75 Euro "Good Effort", instead of "perfect" case, it's clear that the Athena presents some unique design challenges.

I think that the real proof of my opinion of it comes from the fact that I intend to buy another one, this time in blue - and I have the option of using my PDair case which I have since modified to lose the awful plastic keyboard sleeve.

cerk2006
20-06-2007, 09:09 AM
Hi, thanks for posting pictures. I do have one question: how did you modify the PDair case? From the posts (on other topics) one could deduce that PDair's case would be better if it had magnetic instead of plastic holder for the KB. So, is this the mod you applied? Got the magnet from original case?

Thanks Uros

RichardKAthena
20-06-2007, 09:42 AM
Hi, thanks for posting pictures. I do have one question: how did you modify the PDair case? From the posts (on other topics) one could deduce that PDair's case would be better if it had magnetic instead of plastic holder for the KB. So, is this the mod you applied? Got the magnet from original case?

Thanks Uros

Nothing so sophisticated. I cut the plastic keyboard sleeve out above the lower four rows of keys and left a small edge (like the edge of the keyboard). Then it is al least possible to type on it again.

ltxda
24-06-2007, 04:50 PM
Now they've seen them, I don't mind posting these.

Essentially, of the cases I've seen for the Athena - the standard one, the PDair (also marketed by Brando), and Piel Frama, the Piel Frama is the best case available, although all of them have compromises.

Where the Piel Frama scores points is in the lightweight construction, high quality materials, and choice of finish and colour range. It is the least bulky of the cases, and looks and feels like a high quality product. By comparison, the standard case is sloppy and doesn't seem to allow the keyboard to sit correctly flush with the screen, and the PDair feels like it was made with materials General Motors would have deemed suitable for Cadillac... in the 1970s.

The push stud to secure the clasp means there is a small bump under the keyboard, which will make it irritating to use if you spend a lot of time typing with the system on a desk. It does clip the case shut securely, however.

Fit and finish varies, as each case is hand made. Consistent issues are a partially blocked headphone port, "tight" clearances for the stylus and camera button, and sometime misaligned status window - it WILL work, but how much angle you will need on the case seems to vary from machine to machine. Assume 80% of users will probably get it to work in an acceptable fashion, and it probably won't be far off the mark.

The lightweight construction of the Athena case means there is a degree of flex and variation in the screen surround. This is the tradeoff for a slim, tight-fitting case instead of the solid, flat area presented by the PDair cases. In use it can sometimes be an issue, but no more so than the tendency of the main unit to slide out of the PDair, pushing the joystick - cosmetically it doesn't look as "perfectly aligned", which is a disappointment in a case of this cost, but doesn't actually interfere with the function of the machine.

The new case will be slightly tight; this will cause it to tilt a little forward when the keyboard is attached. Be patient and let it fold right back on itself, and this will cease to be an issue! Whilst looking at the keyboard, the magnetic attachment is as good as the standard case, and lines up with the status display perhaps a little TOO well - the stiff edge is perfectly aligned, and raises slightly presenting an increased wear possibility, unless you jiggle the fit a little before putting it in a pocket.

Ultimately Piel Frama have made a very good effort with the case. Whilst it's frustrating, in some ways, to consider this a 75 Euro "Good Effort", instead of "perfect" case, it's clear that the Athena presents some unique design challenges.

I think that the real proof of my opinion of it comes from the fact that I intend to buy another one, this time in blue - and I have the option of using my PDair case which I have since modified to lose the awful plastic keyboard sleeve.

Thank you for your post. It's much appreciated.

mikealder
24-06-2007, 05:28 PM
I will second that post, there are a few minor niggles with the Piel Frama case but I don't find them an issue, the headphone socket being the worst offending part in my opinion but I use the mini USB to 3,5MM addapter with my unit so its no longer an issue.
The case quality is very good, considerably better than the OEM supplied one from T-Mobile - its secure whilst remaining soft, quality product that I am more than happy with - Mike

RichardKAthena
27-06-2007, 12:21 PM
Got my Blue case today; again, nothing like as punchy/OTT as the site depicts. I think I got a better fit with this one, too; the screen alignment is better, and even more interesting, the status display works with less of an angle than my first case. Headphone socket is still partially obscured, but the USB socket is cleaner-cut.

I really think we have to expect some variation in the fit of these cases, so I'm not going to say for certain that they are "improving" - but they might be. This one is definitely a better overall fit.

prpmlp
05-07-2007, 06:24 PM
Just received my Piel Frama case and must say I was expecting the worst. However I was quite please with the quality when I received it. Slight problem with the headphone socket and aligning the keyboard when case is close but nothing too worrying. I agree that the build quality may vary or they may have sorted their manufacturing but they have excellent customer service if you are not satified and I will definatly recommend them now and in the future

whoster69
07-07-2007, 09:30 PM
Does the Piel Frama case come with a belt clip?

Thanks for all the information and pictures!

mikealder
07-07-2007, 11:36 PM
Belt clip = no way you need a big pocket for this to reside in. TBH the weight of the device would probably pull down most belts leading to a certain red faced situation - Mike

eagle 1
08-07-2007, 12:10 AM
Belt clip = no way you need a big pocket for this to reside in. TBH the weight of the device would probably pull down most belts leading to a certain red faced situation - Mike


Belt clip is the only way to go. I use the case that came with my Ipaq 6315. It may not look as good as the case the x7500 came in or the other after market cases. But without the belt clip, it kind of makes the unit not to usable. I don't have pockets big enough to put it in and if i just carried it all the time, i would probably lose it...

whoster69
08-07-2007, 12:50 AM
Belt clip is the only way to go. I use the case that came with my Ipaq 6315. It may not look as good as the case the x7500 came in or the other after market cases. But without the belt clip, it kind of makes the unit not to usable. I don't have pockets big enough to put it in and if i just carried it all the time, i would probably lose it...

That's exactly what I've heard others say and what I'm worried about.

atomu
13-07-2007, 12:47 AM
I received my black PF case today and it seems that they are getting the cut outs done more accurately than previous post have mentioned.

I used some leather cpr on the case and it bends like rubber, the screen seats right on the keyboard.

Sniper2075
14-07-2007, 12:09 AM
Belt clip is the only way to go. I use the case that came with my Ipaq 6315. It may not look as good as the case the x7500 came in or the other after market cases. But without the belt clip, it kind of makes the unit not to usable. I don't have pockets big enough to put it in and if i just carried it all the time, i would probably lose it...

I also agree here. I am now using the x7500 as data only as I got the itch for a new phone when I saw the HTC Touch. But I hate keeping my x7500 in my pocket. I mean honestly it isn't that heavy and the weight is still pulling your pants down the same as if it was on your belt. I can carry alot more weight than the x7500 on my belt and have no problems at all. Actually I do carry alot more on my belt on a regular basis, just a quick question for you. How much do you think a police officers duty belt weighs? I'll weigh mine tonite if I have time and post it when I can.