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rockyV
2nd July 2007, 10:42 AM
Ok so off recent reading it seems that many people that have followed the steps in "Make your X01HT a WM6 Device (for Gaijins)" have unstable devices. Please complete this poll, and if you have a stable (one or less crash a week) please tell us how. It seem that many people here are Stuggling to get a stable WM6 that supports Japanese.

My Black Majik ROM and every other ROM before it crashes 4 or more times a day!

tora201
3rd July 2007, 10:43 AM
look at this (from Make youe x01ht a wm6 device) from my last post there.
I wish somebody could figure this out. Anyway, at the moment, the cooked lvsw with built in Japanese support works best. Although it is a little slow. It has not crashed for 2 days solid -- no matter how much I have thrashed it. Every single other English rom crashes.
Therefore, it is possible to make a stable wm6 with Japanese support -- just how!
:confused:
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Yep I installed the Japanese input enabled version of LVSW. Some things I noticed were that it was modified to install the Japanese stuff (including character input, mslite, fonts, x02ht setting for softbank Japan, etc) following flashing, i.e installed these setting automactially from the extended rom. Now, I am wondering why the thing is so stable. It has not crashed ONCE in the 24 hours I have been trying to crash it.

Funny because every single other English WM6 rom, including the same version of the LVSW rom I have installed have all had terrible problems with random crashing etc; the only difference being that I followed instructions from the beginning of this thread to install the Japanese.

My question: how do we set up English roms so that they automatically install Japanese stuff (including x01ht settings for Japan) from extended rom following flashing?

Very strange that doing it this was could make it so stable. Unless of course, there are newer/more stable versions of a lot of the software links that appear in the original thread?

Ideas please! Would like to solve this enigma.

rickywck
3rd July 2007, 11:17 AM
tora201, where do you download the Japanese input enabled version of LVSW ? I'm really tired of frequent crash and would like to have a really stable ROM.

tora201
3rd July 2007, 12:33 PM
tora201, where do you download the Japanese input enabled version of LVSW ? I'm really tired of frequent crash and would like to have a really stable ROM.
http://rapidshare.com/files/39953635...WWE_3.30.3.zip

See #89 onwards of "make your x01ht a wm6 a wm6 device"

And, yeah, it is extremely stable. I have installed the HTC home plugin thing as well as the new touch dialer, etc. No problems at all! Cheers mate.

Zgembo
3rd July 2007, 03:43 PM
I use LVSW 3.30.3 English ROM with LetsJapan and JapaneseIME (both by Asukal) installed...

Generally, phone seems stable, but then after switching to any of Japanese IMEs (Tegaki, Romaji...) trouble starts... Worst problem is that sometimes SMS and MMS freezes the phone, for example, on message reception. It is even worse by the fact the incoming message is then lost forever!

For some people, switching to Japanese input everyday is essential, and of course, messaging too... these two things seems to clash on all ROMs (some seems to be much more stable than the others).

What we need here is more stable Japanese font & input method package to do things properly... We need Asukal ;)

rickywck
3rd July 2007, 04:15 PM
http://rapidshare.com/files/39953635...WWE_3.30.3.zip

See #89 onwards of "make your x01ht a wm6 a wm6 device"

And, yeah, it is extremely stable. I have installed the HTC home plugin thing as well as the new touch dialer, etc. No problems at all! Cheers mate.

Thanks, but the link seems not working, could you post again ?

s2k7
3rd July 2007, 04:33 PM
My experience:) :

1. Install Asukal's echinaNo5a to support Chinese, Japanese and Korean.
CJ fonts are included.

1.1 move&over write /Temp/wince.nls to /Windows
1.2 delete the startup menu's "usemynls?".

2. Install A4&Hanwan to input Chinese input and Atok to input Japanese.

3. Install other stuffs: Genocide Today, KPCapt, MMSLite265, JJ Pimp My Black 0.2,SQLCE 2.0, AozoraKoneko

I am using Elf_Edition_v2.1 based on LSVW 0519 ROM switching from Black 3.0.1.
It usually works several days for me and surely randomly locks too, but is mostly stable one ever

If anyone teaches me how to cook a ROM, I can make it.

rickywck
3rd July 2007, 06:18 PM
I've tried it and it seems that it is quite stable, but I can't connect to the Internet via GRPS/3G. I've tried to delete the Softbank setting but it didn't seem to work.

tora201
3rd July 2007, 06:21 PM
http://rapidshare.com/files/40804243/RUU_signed.nbh.html

here you go! Just the nbh file.

rockyV
8th July 2007, 07:28 AM
Thanks for your replies and votes. Many others here seem to have crashing/freezing problems, just wondering why you all (except me and one other) said that your PDA is stable?
My Black Majik ROM has been better recently, but not what I call stable, recent crashes:
Thurs-0
Fri-4
Sat-0
Sun-0
but I don't know why.

I expect a phone to be completely stable, not mostly stable, not like old versions of Windows, like XP very rarely crashes, sure programs crash but I think it is a major programing/design error when the OS fails and the only way out is a reset.

People have all sorts of problems, quite often linked to the software they install(in this case Japanese support software), but I don't see how this software stops the OS from working, if there is a problem with SPB mobile or any other sotware then that software only should crash within the OS and leave everthing else alone, not take down the whole system, unbelievable!

tora201
11th July 2007, 02:21 AM
Thanks for your replies and votes. Many others here seem to have crashing/freezing problems, just wondering why you all (except me and one other) said that your PDA is stable?
My Black Majik ROM has been better recently, but not what I call stable, recent crashes:
Thurs-0
Fri-4
Sat-0
Sun-0
but I don't know why.

I expect a phone to be completely stable, not mostly stable, not like old versions of Windows, like XP very rarely crashes, sure programs crash but I think it is a major programing/design error when the OS fails and the only way out is a reset.

People have all sorts of problems, quite often linked to the software they install(in this case Japanese support software), but I don't see how this software stops the OS from working, if there is a problem with SPB mobile or any other sotware then that software only should crash within the OS and leave everthing else alone, not take down the whole system, unbelievable!

Mate, here is a sort of copy of my post in the "Make your X01HT a WM6 Device (for Gaijins)" (in wm6 hermes forum).

I have not heard anything back about my inquires, so I am posting it here with a few changes/comments. Note, I am using a x01ht and live in Japan, so I am using the softbank network.


I had the same problem as many others: when using WM6 (An English version) with Japanese language cabs/MMSlite etc installed AFTERWARDS using the guides on this board, they ALL crash, in one way or other.

This is strange because The Samurai build (beta 1/2) (Japanese cooked rom) worked perfectly! What is going on here? I wish there was away to convert it to English (I mean the GUI only). Then I would be in PDA heaven.

Overall, I have found that all Japanese language wm6 roms have worked better than with English ones installed with Japanese input/language support. Anway reasons/ideas why this would be would be most welcome......

Some typical crashes with English WM6 builds with Japanese language/fonts/mmslite 2.65 or 2.75 installed aftterward:

- MSSlite crashes A LOT (the whole thing freezes, then upon re-set, half the mail in the inbox is gone -- or the MSSlite programme itself is gone and needs a reinstall).

-crashes A LOT using explorer. No reason at all. Again, it just freezes. Freezes more with wifi.

-sometimes crashed on the comm manager screens, or in settings.

The point is, the thing crashes A LOT under WM6 with Japanese support installed later, following any of the guides here.

Anyway, in the end I went with Hermes_WWE_3.30.3.3_4_X01XT (Latest LVSW wm6 in English with Japanese support cooked in to install settings upon first boot via the external rom)

http://rapidshare.com/files/39953635/Hermes_WWE_3.30.3.zip

It works fine. Not one crash over a week! And believe me, I have tried to crash the thing. I even installed the touch HTC plugins.

Basically, the difference between this and other wm6 roms is that all the Japanese support was cooked in to install via the external rom upon the first boot. So, my question is:

Since somebody (A Japanese guy) made this, it should be possible to make a similar Black version (for example) with built in Japanese language/mms/softbank settings set up to install automatically via the external rom upon first boot. Anybody know how to do this?

If we can do this, or somebody post a guide, it would seem to solve all our problems.

hamster0914
11th July 2007, 02:58 AM
I'm guessing that maybe we take a copy of the Ext_ROM from the one you're using, install another English ROM, and then copy the EXT_ROM over, and hard reset it to kickstart the auto setup process. What do you think?

hamster0914
11th July 2007, 03:52 AM
I tried it in Black Majik, and had to run the Ext_ROM manually, but nothing changed, even after a reset! No connection, fonts, nothing!

You've got to edit a file in the Windows directory to enable it, I see. When I get time I'll have a go...

tora201
11th July 2007, 11:29 AM
I'm guessing that maybe we take a copy of the Ext_ROM from the one you're using, install another English ROM, and then copy the EXT_ROM over, and hard reset it to kickstart the auto setup process. What do you think?

Would that work?? Oh, my phone is locked so I can't do that! :-( its the post April softbank one. Damn you softbank! Can somebody else try that??

sesaru
11th July 2007, 11:42 AM
Shit! This ROM is Magic!! How made it? :D :D

Only problem is that it's slow, if compared with Black. Can anybody cook a black ROM with this incredible Softbank support? :confused:

Please!!!!!

sesaru
11th July 2007, 05:38 PM
I tried it in Black Majik, and had to run the Ext_ROM manually, but nothing changed, even after a reset! No connection, fonts, nothing!

You've got to edit a file in the Windows directory to enable it, I see. When I get time I'll have a go...

You mena that if if you run all the .CAB of the extended ROM, 1 by 1, in the proper order; nothing changes?

hamster0914
12th July 2007, 05:00 AM
Yes, that's right.

sesaru
12th July 2007, 05:12 AM
Yes, that's right.
I checked the ROM carefully ... All the Japanese support is cooked into the ROM, not via Extended ROM.
Or that boy cook new ROM, or we can't do anything. Anyway ... I think that it's extremely slow for be WM6.
Saludos

larsuck
12th July 2007, 01:25 PM
It is good to know that I am not the only person who has had chronic trouble with installing Japanese support in WM6. I have tried quite a few ROMs, Black 2.5 through Dymond, as well as a few LVSW, and have had random lock-ups and the SOD on all of them. I keep going back to my Japanese WM5 ROM for the stability. I've got a three-day weekend coming and will report back after flashing Hermes_WWE_3.30.3.3_4_X01XT with anything I find out about this baked-in Japanese support ROM.
To sesaru, I have noticed that LVSW is routinely slower than Black - even without any Japanese support issues.

tora201
12th July 2007, 03:12 PM
the rom is slow, but it is completely stable. I wonder how it was made? It certainly shows it CAN BE DONE. I have not had a single lock-up since I installed it. So.... something going on here. Nobody can figure it out? Oh, and for the record, it installed all of the Japanese stuff from the external rom upon first boot (the 3 second thing). So, I wonder why does Japanese work without crashes if installed automactially upon first boot via external rom??

larsuck
13th July 2007, 03:01 AM
The LVSW that it is based on seems like a really solid ROM, but many said it was not only solid, but also fast. Perhaps the glyphecache or pagepool values have been tweaked by the cook.
BTW, who DID cook this ROM (with the Japanese support)? Does anyone know? Let's hunt this guy down. And is there an official thread relating to it? (I haven't been able to find one.)

sesaru
13th July 2007, 04:18 AM
It is good to know that I am not the only person who has had chronic trouble with installing Japanese support in WM6. I have tried quite a few ROMs, Black 2.5 through Dymond, as well as a few LVSW, and have had random lock-ups and the SOD on all of them. I keep going back to my Japanese WM5 ROM for the stability. I've got a three-day weekend coming and will report back after flashing Hermes_WWE_3.30.3.3_4_X01XT with anything I find out about this baked-in Japanese support ROM.
To sesaru, I have noticed that LVSW is routinely slower than Black - even without any Japanese support issues.

I also come back to WM5. It's really stable, and all my Apps work there. The only real advantage for me of WM6 is that it's really faster, and it had really better A2DP support. But this Rom is similar slow than WM5 (sometimes more), and A2DP is incredible bad, compared with other WM6 (even others LVSW), so there is no real advantage in use. The only stable ROM (at least for Japanese) in the last WM5 from HTC.

Now that WM6 official is out, I hope anybody can made one stable/fast based on that one.

Saludos

hamster0914
13th July 2007, 04:24 AM
The samurai ROM latest version is due to come out in the next couple of days, and I've been really impressed with the stability and speed of that one, so hopefully it should solve the issues you note above, as well as being faster. The only possible issue is the entire interface is in Japanese

larsuck
13th July 2007, 04:36 AM
But this Rom is similar slow than WM5 (sometimes more), and A2DP is incredible bad, compared with other WM6 (even others LVSW),


Now I really want to find out who baked this ROM. How could adding Japanese support screw up A2DP?!:confused:

Maybe this guy? http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=437816 Seems likely.

sesaru
13th July 2007, 04:46 AM
The samurai ROM latest version is due to come out in the next couple of days, and I've been really impressed with the stability and speed of that one, so hopefully it should solve the issues you note above, as well as being faster. The only possible issue is the entire interface is in Japanese

Oh! For people who don't speak Japanese, it's really a big problem; you can be sure ...

knownone
13th July 2007, 08:55 AM
Hey, i put in the new Dopod Official ROM almost a day ago, customized it with Japanese, MMSlite and Softbank connection settings, and not a single crash yet!

Here's crossing my fingers ;)

sesaru
13th July 2007, 09:09 AM
Hey, i put in the new Dopod Official ROM almost a day ago, customized it with Japanese, MMSlite and Softbank connection settings, and not a single crash yet!

Here's crossing my fingers ;)

Please, wait for Black one ;) I'll hope soon I can finally move to Wm6 (^-^)

knownone
13th July 2007, 09:32 AM
Please, wait for Black one ;) I'll hope soon I can finally move to Wm6 (^-^)

So far, the black ones have run great in English but been the least stable in Japanese for me. I might just go ahead and start working on my own stripped down version specifically for the X01HT. Not sure if I want to cut into my love-life, though, haha ;)

hamster0914
14th July 2007, 01:00 AM
I've installed the official Dopod ROM, but can't get Exchange to sync after installing Japanese support!

larsuck
14th July 2007, 08:49 AM
I had a discussion with a nice guy named zgembo about some program's problems with asukal's Let'sJapan. It may help you as well, though it involves overwriting system files.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=288136&page=11

s2k7
14th July 2007, 10:36 AM
The Japanese CONTACTS give us a Japanese style order (not alphabetical order).
Is it possibe to just copy the Japanese CONTACTS from a Japanese WM6 sytem into the English ROM?
I just checked the \windows fold, and did not yet image how to do this.

Any comments welcome.

J0n
14th July 2007, 10:52 AM
Hey, i put in the new Dopod Official ROM almost a day ago, customized it with Japanese, MMSlite and Softbank connection settings, and not a single crash yet!

Here's crossing my fingers ;)

bought my dopod 838 pro one week ago,im also new to PPC, can u please teach me how did u installed that? im using WM6, (IPL 1.04 & SPL version is 2.10.olipro)

tnx in advance

hamster0914
14th July 2007, 11:05 AM
s2k7, Either sync them to your PC, flash the ROM and then re-sync your contacts, or use PIM Backup to save them to a memory card, then restore after flashing.

PIM Backup is available here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=299705&highlight=pim+backup

knownone
14th July 2007, 05:27 PM
Hey, i put in the new Dopod Official ROM almost a day ago, customized it with Japanese, MMSlite and Softbank connection settings, and not a single crash yet!

Here's crossing my fingers ;)

Several days on the official WM6 ROM now with 0 (that's zero) crashes. I don't remember the original Softbank WM5 ROM being that stable unless I didn't install any software!

Still got my fingers crossed!

larsuck
15th July 2007, 01:22 AM
Several days on the official WM6 ROM now with 0 (that's zero) crashes. I don't remember the original Softbank WM5 ROM being that stable unless I didn't install any software!

Still got my fingers crossed!

Okay knownone, you have me excited. There are already about 20 different official roms floating around here, some cooked, some not. Can you tell me which one you used, and also if you used Asukal's Let's Japan?

tora201
15th July 2007, 02:20 AM
Okay knownone, you have me excited. There are already about 20 different official roms floating around here, some cooked, some not. Can you tell me which one you used, and also if you used Asukal's Let's Japan?

Well, (Sorry, Knownone I also want to reply to this one) I have tried every single pre-release wm6. All of them experienced random crashes when Japanese support was used, sometimes every few minutes.

The only ones that don't are the fully Japanese versions made by Samurai and others, and the the latest lvuw (English) with Japanese support cooked in; although these suffer from serious speed problems.

However, just last night I took the plunge and put on the official Dopod and loaded it with MSlite 2.75 (very problematic on other roms), Asukal's Let's Japan, fonts, htc touch home plugin, 2g dialer, the touch comm manager, etc. Guess, what? Not one crash so far. It would seem Knowone is right. Oh, and did I mention it is very fast? Even with the touch home plugin the thing flies.

I am about to try the latest black (when JJ releases the final version) and will let you know. But for now, Dopod Official does look the way to go.

larsuck
15th July 2007, 02:42 AM
Tora201, thanks. It probably doesn't matter all that much, but I would still like to know which flavor of the offical Dopod rom you used. The repackaged one by Mr. Vanx? The one with Chinese/Japanese fonts baked in by a944088? the stripped-down version called Ellise? or just the plain vanilla from Dopod?

Xero
15th July 2007, 06:53 AM
I bought my X01HT a few days ago and flashed it to a WM6 WWE ROM with JN support, and have had no problems so far.
I followed the guide posted before.

tora201
15th July 2007, 12:21 PM
Tora201, thanks. It probably doesn't matter all that much, but I would still like to know which flavor of the offical Dopod rom you used. The repackaged one by Mr. Vanx? The one with Chinese/Japanese fonts baked in by a944088? the stripped-down version called Ellise? or just the plain vanilla from Dopod?

The repackaged one by a-h-t1

http://rapidshare.com/files/42480130/HERM_DOPODASIA_WWE_3.54.707.3_6275_CustomRUU.rar.h tml

Works wonderful. Black Satin has yet to be released, but will try it when it comes out. So far the best one for installing Japanese afterward is Dopod. Very quick and not a single crash out of it yet.

tora201
15th July 2007, 02:31 PM
ignore this. Posted twice by accident.

swordfishjp
16th July 2007, 11:03 AM
One more choice for you guys

Schap's WM6 Pro 3.30c Japanese supported
http://rapidshare.com/files/43191082/Schap_s_WM6_Pro_3.zip

Enjoy it :)

tora201
16th July 2007, 12:17 PM
One more choice for you guys

Schap's WM6 Pro 3.30c Japanese supported
http://rapidshare.com/files/43191082/Schap_s_WM6_Pro_3.zip

Enjoy it :)

Mate, can you give us more info? I mean, it is the English version, with Japanese support fully cooked in? I notice that the Schap's version does not utilize the external rom and instead gives extra space. Is your version the same? If so, how much space is left?

larsuck
16th July 2007, 01:15 PM
Seems that the official ROMs are stable little suckers. So far I've tricked two out with a whole bunch of funky software, Japanese support and input included. Not a hang or SOD yet.
Something tells me that we have some really good times ahead of us when the cooks crack these open and start hacking...

tora201
16th July 2007, 02:07 PM
Seems that the official ROMs are stable little suckers. So far I've tricked two out with a whole bunch of funky software, Japanese support and input included. Not a hang or SOD yet.
Something tells me that we have some really good times ahead of us when the cooks crack these open and start hacking...

I would agree with you on this! Sounds great!! No crashes here either!! I am really looking forward to the near future.

Cheers!

knownone
17th July 2007, 04:11 AM
I agree, I have been using the DOPODASIA WWE 3.54.707.3 ROM for almost a week now with no crashes! It will be nice when there are more customized ROM's floating around (as long as they retain the stability :) )

Zgembo
17th July 2007, 07:35 AM
DopodAsia WWE 3.54.707.3 good & stable here too... still testing MMSLite behavior, nobody sending me any messages lately!

sesaru
18th July 2007, 05:37 AM
Is there any cooked ROM with Japanese support by default (better if it's Softbank customized ;)) ?

knownone
18th July 2007, 05:57 AM
There don't appear to be any cooked officials for the X01HT yet, so I reccomend staying with the official and modding it to Softbank settings yourself... a week now and no crashing!

sesaru
18th July 2007, 08:47 AM
There don't appear to be any cooked officials for the X01HT yet, so I reccomend staying with the official and modding it to Softbank settings yourself... a week now and no crashing!

I think I'll wait for Black before. Anyway, I read that Black usually don't work very well with Japanese support. I have some questions:
* Is official ROM as fast Black, or at least similar?
* What are the main differences that Official and Black will have?
* How works A2DP?

Thanks!

tora201
18th July 2007, 11:05 AM
DopodAsia WWE 3.54.707.3 good & stable here too... still testing MMSLite behavior, nobody sending me any messages lately!

whats you mail address? I will send you a test mail, man!! (from kyoto)

larsuck
18th July 2007, 02:52 PM
@sesaru
I don't know JJ, but my guess is that he is going to take the official ROM, freshen the OEM apps to newer versions and make two flavours with increased storage space and some performance tweaks. I have a funny feeling that the ROM will be named something like Black Velvet...
But those are just guesses (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=316755).

So, there's going to be basically three differences between JJ's and the official: 1) JJ's will be faster cause he's going to tweak it and 2) JJ's is going to have more memory because he's going to cut some fat and 3) JJ's is going to be cooler because he's JJ.
BTW, don't try to download SATIN yet. It is still unfinished. Watch the SATIN thread linked to above.

sesaru
19th July 2007, 11:44 AM
@sesaru
I don't know JJ, but my guess is that he is going to take the official ROM, freshen the OEM apps to newer versions and make two flavours with increased storage space and some performance tweaks. I have a funny feeling that the ROM will be named something like Black Velvet...
But those are just guesses (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=316755).

So, there's going to be basically three differences between JJ's and the official: 1) JJ's will be faster cause he's going to tweak it and 2) JJ's is going to have more memory because he's going to cut some fat and 3) JJ's is going to be cooler because he's JJ.
BTW, don't try to download SATIN yet. It is still unfinished. Watch the SATIN thread linked to above.

Thanks for your answer. What I want is a really customized Japanese ROM, like "Schap's WM6 Pro 3.30c Japanese supported" based on official ROM.

Anyway, I go tomorrow to Thailand for 10 days holidays, and you can be sure that I won't flash any ROM in that days ... I'll try to "flash" other mote interesting things (^____^)v

Chao!
Se

mexec
19th July 2007, 01:56 PM
One more choice for you guys

Schap's WM6 Pro 3.30c Japanese supported
http://rapidshare.com/files/43191082/Schap_s_WM6_Pro_3.zip

Enjoy it :)

hi..wat u mean of japanese supported?..they all cooked inside or wat?..i mean mmslite asukal`s let japan and so on..:confused:
can u give some other info about it..

larsuck
19th July 2007, 03:20 PM
@sesaru - don't create any international incidents.

@mexec - take a chance! Try it out and tell us what is in it. I am going to bet that "Japanese supported" means Japanese fonts baked in, but no input options or Japanese menus.

mexec
20th July 2007, 03:51 AM
finally here it comes..

BLACK SATIN (http://www.4winmobile.com/forums/hermes-black-rom-support/10869-final-installment-black-satin-normal-medium-light.html#post133573)

go get it :D

larsuck
20th July 2007, 11:16 AM
Let's hope it is as stable as the official - although I don't see any reason why it shouldn't be. Perfect timing too JJ, just in time for the weekend.

rickyb2000
21st July 2007, 03:13 AM
Hi all i have tried most roms out there and like you my friends and i who have softbank phones would like a crash free environment.

i have noticed many reasons and will probably stick to the Black LE roms more stable even with SPB programs and MMS lite.

I tried all three roms mentioned in this thread. first and third are ok second one wont recognize my phone.

I have a request in the Schaps version there is a file loaded on called softbank information. could someone point me in the right direction for getting it.

Regards

Ricky

larsuck
21st July 2007, 03:45 AM
I don't know about Schaps Softbank Information, but here is the link regarding Softbank settings on Tytns.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=297687

rickyb2000
21st July 2007, 05:20 AM
Thx laesuck

i will give it a look and see if its what i need.

zfs
21st July 2007, 06:09 AM
:) The Schap_s ROM is japanese ROM and well works with softbank MMS and S! mail. Great!
This ROM looks like using Asukal IMEJ31 (I am not sure)as japanese input.
But it still can not access Softbank x-series.softbankmobile.co.jp. once you open this site, IE will automatically redirect to mb.softbank.jp.
:confused:

larsuck
21st July 2007, 07:45 AM
@zfs
I don't use Schap's ROM, so I can't really say, but I have noticed that some baked ROMs' registries are tweaked so that Pocket IE identifies itself as a full-fledged browser, instead of Pocket IE. This enables PIE to access full versions of webpages, rather than mobile versions. This is just one of many little tweaks cooks can impliment to make our ROMs run better.
This link (http://www.pocketpctweaks.com/pocketpc_tweaks/change_pocket_internet_explorer_6)shows you how to do this tweak that may have already been cooked into the ROM. Further down in the comments section it also gives the default settings which should allow you to access mobile sites again.
Back up your machine before digging in the registry.

BTW: 24 hours on Satin with Asukal's Let's Japan IME and fonts. No hangups, SOD or problems whatsoever. Smooth as silk (pun intended).

mexec
21st July 2007, 10:00 AM
..BTW: 24 hours on Satin with Asukal's Let's Japan IME and fonts. No hangups, SOD or problems whatsoever. Smooth as silk ...


i second that..:)
really nice rom with big storage..it`s really rock with my X01HT..kudos to jj for this great rom..

sesaru
22nd July 2007, 08:52 AM
@zfs
I don't use Schap's ROM, so I can't really say, but I have noticed that some baked ROMs' registries are tweaked so that Pocket IE identifies itself as a full-fledged browser, instead of Pocket IE. This enables PIE to access full versions of webpages, rather than mobile versions. This is just one of many little tweaks cooks can impliment to make our ROMs run better.
This link (http://www.pocketpctweaks.com/pocketpc_tweaks/change_pocket_internet_explorer_6)shows you how to do this tweak that may have already been cooked into the ROM. Further down in the comments section it also gives the default settings which should allow you to access mobile sites again.
Back up your machine before digging in the registry.

BTW: 24 hours on Satin with Asukal's Let's Japan IME and fonts. No hangups, SOD or problems whatsoever. Smooth as silk (pun intended).

So, What do you recommend me for using, WM Black or the official one?

Also, I have a doubt about Softbank plan data:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=318739

Maybe you can help me.

Thanks (from Thailand ;))

larsuck
22nd July 2007, 11:27 AM
I'm going to go out on a limb and recommend Black Satin (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=316755) . It is as fast or faster than the official Dopod ROMs, seems stable so far(48 hours of heavy use with Japanese and Softbank support installed with no hangs or SOD), and has less/none of the bloat and none of the unnecessary carrier extrom settings.

And check your other thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1386085&posted=1#post1386085) as to my (weak) answer to your other question.

hamster0914
22nd July 2007, 06:22 PM
I concur, my experience with Black Satin and the hacks for Japanese support/Softbank connection hasn't missed a beat in 36 hours so far.

themaninjapan
22nd July 2007, 10:40 PM
Anyone out there willing to walk me through the process used to do this? It's pretty important to me that I be able to input/output Japanese on my cell phone (T-Mobile Wing running WM6). Just send me an email at themaninjapan at gmail dot com.

auyongtc
23rd July 2007, 03:52 AM
Gonna give Black Satin a try this week... is the new arcsoft mms on WM6 working for anyone with the softbank MMS? Or do I have to use mmslite again?

mmslite build 275 couldn't work on my Black Dymond - it just hangs after being installed, only build 265 worked...

anyone can share experience on arcsoft mms and mmslite on Black Satin for softbank MMS?

tora201
23rd July 2007, 09:31 AM
Anybody got SMS to go? All other roms have been fine, including the offical dopod one. Strange that Satin has SMS,+MMS grouped together while the offical Dopod one I had installed had them separate.

of course I installed MMSlite and MMS works fine, but SMS does not work! Why? I would also be cool if somebody could work out how to separate them again as well. As it is I can only recieve SMS, but not send it. mails remain stuck in the outbox.

Also, I reckon Satin is slightly slower than the offical Dopod.... No crashes or SOD, yet it just seems slower.....

:confused: :confused:

tora201
23rd July 2007, 09:35 AM
Nope -- you have to use MMSlite. There is no known way to get the Arcsoft MMS going, thanks to non-support from Softbank. (As per usual!)
Also, under Satin I am not sure if SMS works for sending either. MMSlite works fine, yet SMS (Sent under the MMS+MMS account) fails. The official Dopod (and all other roms I have ever tried) works fine.

knownone
23rd July 2007, 10:27 AM
I have sampled all of the modified officials released up until this post, but all of them failed to reboot after setting up the Japanese modding on them. At some point, after setting up the Japanese mods and e-mail/MMS... upon soft-reset they all have failed to reboot after several attempts, requiring that I hard reset each time.

I do not think that anyone else has had the problem yet, but it has not happened on the official HTC/Dopod release, only on the cooked ones based on the official.:confused:

In my case, Black Satin was quite slow as well (from the initial pen calibration screen at the start of set-up). Schnaps was faster, and had pretty good storage space considering the amount of programs included, but tended to crash on soft-reset as well.

Anyone else had similar issues?

larsuck
23rd July 2007, 10:55 AM
@auyongtc - I have read before that any version above MMS 265 is buggy. 265 has worked flawlessly for me on every rom I've tried. I've stuck with it.

@knownone - Bummer. And here I thought that Satin was the answer. At least Dopod works. I have found that Satin's UI seems slower (i.e. when the mail button is pushed, pocket outlook takes more time to appear), but processor intensive tasks such as opening the windows file in explorer are much faster. Perhaps there is some trade-off happening here.
I have never had Satin crash - yet.

@tora201 - Yeah, the sms/mms app is the only thing I don't like about Satin. That being said, I have no problems sending sms through Softbank using this app. My sms sends fine, but I have to go through the extra step of selecting sms after selecting new mail.

and finally @sesaru - Seeing as all these people have trouble with Satin, you may want to stick to an official Dopod ROM. OR perhaps give Sleuth's new 2.1 ROM a spin. It is fast and smooth.

sesaru
30th July 2007, 12:51 PM
I just come back from Thailand; I miss (><)

I'll try Schap one. It's a pity no ROM with Japanese support inside yet ... anyway, maybe anybody can help me in tweaking my ROM. I can customize to Softbank ROM from english one without problems; what I want is to remove all keyboards in input options that I never use (leave only Japanese and Symbol), and put by default English input in Japanese Keyboard. I imagine that must be just some register tweaks.

Thanks
Sesaru

tora201
30th July 2007, 01:08 PM
@tora201 - Yeah, the sms/mms app is the only thing I don't like about Satin. That being said, I have no problems sending sms through Softbank using this app. My sms sends fine, but I have to go through the extra step of selecting sms after selecting new mail.

Then, what am I doing wrong? As I said, I have used lots of other roms in my time and never had a problem sending SMS. Anybody else got problems with sending SMS under Softbank settings (from within Japan)?

I think I might go back to official Dopod. I also found it was a lot faster. Whatever works for me, I suppose. Its just annoying, that's all.

larsuck
30th July 2007, 02:04 PM
Yeah, but just imagine if Softcrank had regular MMS (like everybody else) and then we could have SMS and MMS together... just like every other phone I have ever used in Japan. I can see how the melded SMS and MMS would be appealing for someone on a regular carrier.

Anyway, if you are in a flashing mood, might I call your attention to a few new ROMs out based on the Dopod:
Sleuth's new one (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=319171)- everything but the kitchen sink and pretty fast
Some (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=320094)with Japanese fonts, IME and Softbank settings if you are lazy - haven't tried these yet personally
And my current flavor, the newcomer DopodLite (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=320010) - I've only been running it for a couple of hours, so I can't say anything but that it is fast as a mothe... well, its fast.

sesaru
31st July 2007, 04:45 AM
Some [/URL]with Japanese fonts, IME and Softbank settings if you are lazy - haven't tried these yet personally
And my current flavor, the newcomer DopodLite (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=320010) - I've only been running it for a couple of hours, so I can't say anything but that it is fast as a mothe... well, its fast.

The one you told about that is customized is a Japanese ROM (the OS is in Japanese).

About the "DopodLite"; is it really faster than the Sleuth's one?

Again, I want to ask ... Is possible that when you have Japanese input package installed (IME_31J_QVGA_F.cab) to have bu default the Romanji input, instead of the Hiragana one?

Thanks!
Sesaru

larsuck
31st July 2007, 07:28 AM
...I guess these http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=320094 are Japanese language ROMs. Sorry about that,:o as I said I haven't tried them personally.

As for Sleuth's 3.1, it is pretty fast, but has a lot of programs preinstalled on it. All his ROMs do. That's why he calls them developer ROMs I guess. DopodLite is a little faster, and by that I mean that both the UI is snappy and the processing time required for heavy tasks (like opening the Windows folder) is less than Sleuth's.

Both are based on Dopod's official, so I don't know why they are different, but for me the DopodLite seems faster.

Anyway, I have had zero problems so far with both Sleuth's 3.1 and DopodLite as far as MMSLite and Japanese fonts/IME.

As far as the Japanese IME defaulting to the romaji input... I WISH I knew how to do that! That damned Hiragana input keeps popping up, doesn't it! I will search through the registry and tell you if I find anything.

auyongtc
31st July 2007, 10:45 AM
larsuck, what is the particular Japanese font and IME you tried on DopodLite? Gonna flash mine to DopodLite soon and figured that you've done the same, just gonna follow the same font type and IME you use so won't have to waste time testing it out. And your MMSLite currently installed, build 265?

Thanks.

larsuck
31st July 2007, 12:55 PM
Yes sir, build MMSLite build 265. Working like a charm.

The fonts I have loaded
http://www.asukal.jp/WM5/LetsJapanNo5.zip
(from Asukal via Alcibidae's Make your X01HT a WM6 Device thread)

The IME I have installed
http://hn801.hkes.com/Data/SIP/IME_31J_QVGA_F.zip
(also from Asukal via Alcibidae's post plus a bit of digging)

After installing the above two files, you will notice that you have a file called wince in your temp folder. This conflicts with the wince in your windows folder when running programs that use .NET . To work around this (if you need to, I just avoid .NET programs) simply copy and overwrite the wince in your Windows folder with the one in your Temp folder. You will need gsfinder+ or equivalent file explorer to do this as wince is a system file. If you haven't already, check this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=288136&page=11 .

sesaru
2nd August 2007, 04:56 AM
Dear Larsuk. Please, can you check this thread?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1410048&posted=1#post1410048

mexec
5th August 2007, 10:02 AM
...And my current flavor, the newcomer DopodLite (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=320010) - I've only been running it for a couple of hours, so I can't say anything but that it is fast as a mothe... well, its fast.

larsuck..
one question..when u moved from satin to dopod lite did u backup all the messages and restore it in dopod lite?..how about the mms messeges?..

i tried dopod lite today..it`s fast..faster than satin..but mmslite became MMS1 in this rom..so when i backup mms masseges from satin it wasn`t restore in dopod lite because the acc name is not same as in satin (which is mmslite was named as MMS)..btw i`m using pimbackup v2.5..

how about u?..care to share?..:confused:

Zgembo
6th August 2007, 12:16 PM
Just to report;

Dopod official WM6 ROM is ROCK stable, even with latest version of MMSLite! Not a single crash in weeks! Heavily used with kanji/kana/romanji input, messaging, etc... Finlay my X01HT is getting useful, both as a phone and PDA...

Thanks everybody for all the nice info and suggestions.

larsuck
6th August 2007, 02:50 PM
@zgembo - Not even a hiccup. It is boringly stable.

@mexec - It is funny. I always back up my messages and settings (using spb backup), but I never bother reinstalling them once I flash a new ROM. I guess I figure it isn't worth the trouble it might cause. Of course, I really don't have any important messages...

But yes, unfortunately Satin had the joined SMS/MMS application, so that when one installed MMSLite, it called itself MMS. However, in every other ROM I have used, there is already a entry called MMS (made by the Arcsoft program). Because there cannot be two MMS entries, MMSLite calls itself MMS1. Unfortunately, I do not know any way around the MMS1 problem. See this post:

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1219821&postcount=65

sesaru
12th August 2007, 04:18 PM
Again, I want to ask ... Is possible that when you have Japanese input package installed (IME_31J_QVGA_F.cab) to have bu default the Romanji input, instead of the Hiragana one?

I got it!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1429764&postcount=19

Thanks, Asukal!

New question! Nobody know how to make Yahoo! Keitai work in Pocket IExplorer?

neogin
21st August 2007, 06:28 PM
My purpose: I want to translate Benq Wm6 JPN to WWE. (or Thai) .. Everything is in Japanese, I would like to see them in English or Thai.

I'm not good at using other device ROM to edit and put it back on my Benq P51.
So, I decided to convert Japanese to English or Thai.
Please guide.

I see jpn ime, imjp31k.dll and some japanese definitions in my user.rgu

How can I change it back to WWE (or Thai)?

PS... I just installed your korechithai and it works !! i can read Thai now but .. everywhere is still in japanese .. such as, contact button, name of some programs, .. etc

khammo01
8th October 2007, 06:25 PM
@zgembo - Not even a hiccup. It is boringly stable.

@mexec - It is funny. I always back up my messages and settings (using spb backup), but I never bother reinstalling them once I flash a new ROM. I guess I figure it isn't worth the trouble it might cause. Of course, I really don't have any important messages...

But yes, unfortunately Satin had the joined SMS/MMS application, so that when one installed MMSLite, it called itself MMS. However, in every other ROM I have used, there is already a entry called MMS (made by the Arcsoft program). Because there cannot be two MMS entries, MMSLite calls itself MMS1. Unfortunately, I do not know any way around the MMS1 problem. See this post:

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1219821&postcount=65

There is a workaround. The workaround is to delete any existing MMS inboxes from Pocket Outlook before installing MMS Lite. To do this, you need to add a registry entry "UserCannotCreate" and set it to '0' under HKLM/Software/Microsoft/Inbox/Svcs/MMS.
Then go back to Pocket Outlook, go to the inbox switching thingy, right click and delete. Then go back to the registry and delete the MMS key entirely.