View Full Version : Pre Upgrade Queries.
Digital.Diablo
04-07-2007, 12:54 PM
I'm going to attempt to update my Ameo very very soon (I'm scared, but I think I can make it), and have the following queries:-
Q) What is actually needed to perform the upgrade (software/hardware)?
A) A SuperCID Ameo/Athena/U1000, USB Cable, Upgrade ROM, ....
Q) On Upgrading, is the device wiped completly (Microdrive included)?
Q) Am I correct in thinking that I need to get the SuperCID unlock from the imei-checkers site? What is their turn around time?
Q) Are there any 'roll-back' instructions in case of disaster?
Q) Will there be less risk associated with the T-Mobile Upgrade (if it ever appears)?
Q) Are WM5 theme's compatible with WM6?
Q) Is there any WM5 software known to be incompatible with WM6?
Q) Is any software that is included in the WM5 image NOT there in WM6?
Q) Is there any adverse effect from using the generic image rather than the T-Mobile custom one?
Apologies for some 'newbie' questions, but I just wanted some clarification to committing to the upgrade, what with the risk of bricking the device.
spoonter
04-07-2007, 01:48 PM
Q) What is actually needed to perform the upgrade (software/hardware)?
A) A SuperCID Ameo/Athena/U1000, USB Cable, Upgrade ROM, ....
1) If you have a stock standard UK T-Mobile Ameo, then download ATHE_T-MOB005.rar from http://uploaded.de/?id=wbbw2u
If you have something else, then refer to post #4 here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=314672
2) make sure you have 50%+ battery life, and an established activesync connection via USB
3) extact the RAR, run the EXE, be paitent and cross fingers
4) that's it!
Q) On Upgrading, is the device wiped completly (Microdrive included)?
Yes and No.
Yes - the phone memory (Contacts, SMS, installed software ect) will be wiped.
No - the microdrive is not wiped
Q) Am I correct in thinking that I need to get the SuperCID unlock from the imei-checkers site? What is their turn around time?
No. If you have a T-Mobile UK Ameo, then you simply just need ATHE_T-MOB005.rar
Q) Are there any 'roll-back' instructions in case of disaster?
You could try a hard reset. Otherwise someone else here is going to have to help. Personally my upgrade went without a hitch.
Q) Will there be less risk associated with the T-Mobile Upgrade (if it ever appears)?
I kinda suspect that ATHE_T-MOB005.rar is the offical T-Mobile upgrade the "accidentally" has leaked.
Q) Are WM5 theme's compatible with WM6?
Not sure. ATHE_T-MOB005.rar
comes with a few thmese. The HTC one is very good (green, with a nice dialer)
Q) Is there any WM5 software known to be incompatible with WM6?
Best search the forums for the answer to this. There's been loads of WM6 experiance now with the other HTC devices. Personally I have had no comaptability issues
Q) Is any software that is included in the WM5 image NOT there in WM6?
I think they are pretty much the same although I have not don a side-by-side comparision, . ATHE_T-MOB005.rar includes the Oprea, VueFLO, TV Out, Adobe Reader, JETCET Print, Midlet Manager
It also incluse the HTC Audio Manger and HTC Task Manager (both very good!)
Q) Is there any adverse effect from using the generic image rather than the T-Mobile custom one?
Some people rather a generic (or vanilla) ROM. I suspect the only diffecterence between ATHE_T-MOB005.rar and the offical T-Mobile ROM will be the branding (includion of a T-Mobile theme)
Confucious
04-07-2007, 01:53 PM
2 points
I think the only diff is the T-Mob one is for T-Mob CID devices so you don't need CID unlocking.
Pocket informant is incompatible with WM6 - they want you to upgrade :(
My T-Mob (UK) upgraded SIM and CID locked without a hitch.
1
I kinda suspect that ATHE_T-MOB005.rar is the offical T-Mobile upgrade the "accidentally" has leaked.
I think they are pretty much the same although I have not don a side-by-side comparision, . ATHE_T-MOB005.rar includes the Oprea, VueFLO, TV Out, Adobe Reader, JETCET Print, Midlet Manager
I suspect the only diffecterence between ATHE_T-MOB005.rar and the offical T-Mobile ROM will be the branding (includion of a T-Mobile theme)
But let's be clear - this does not appear to nbe a T-Mobile ROM (it has no branding, no automatic network settings, although these are provided by a wizard). It appears to be the HTC ROM.
Confucious
04-07-2007, 03:21 PM
But let's be clear - this does not appear to nbe a T-Mobile ROM (it has no branding, no automatic network settings, although these are provided by a wizard). It appears to be the HTC ROM.
I think you are right as there is no branding - but it does have T-Mob CID
I think you are right as there is no branding - but it does have T-Mob CID
which presumably means someone has inserted it...
A point of note - here we all are happily using this ROM but we have no idea where it comes from!!!
Confucious
04-07-2007, 04:01 PM
which presumably means someone has inserted it...
A point of note - here we all are happily using this ROM but we have no idea where it comes from!!!
Of course we know where it comes from!
It comes from a file sharing site in Germany somewhere, sort of.....
eagle 1
04-07-2007, 04:04 PM
2 points
Pocket informant is incompatible with WM6 - they want you to upgrade :(
Pocket Informant works fine for me. Not sure why you are saying it is not compatible. Have you tried a newer version? I have no issues what so ever with pocket informant..
Midget_1990
04-07-2007, 04:09 PM
all current WM6 versions are THE SAME HTC ROM. they merely have a different CID to aid flashing :)
pumats
04-07-2007, 04:46 PM
Hi.
I have more or less the same questions.
I have an HTC X7500 unbranded, bought from Dangaard Italy.
I read carefully the main topic, and someone said that he flashed his device
with the ATHE_WM6_x7500_flasher.rar file, without CID-unlocking it.
Is this correct?
If so, can someone tell me in which order I have to run the four exe files
included?
Thanks in advance
Mauro
Anton.Valleyman
04-07-2007, 05:44 PM
I prefer it anyway...none of the pointless operator branding (and I always hated the T-M phone skin) and I don't feel there is anything missing or lacking.
Digital.Diablo
04-07-2007, 05:46 PM
Many thanks for absolutly top notch replys, particularly Spoonter! :)
I shall be 'violating' my device later tonight (probably).
I'll probably backup my Microdrive before operation and clear it down anyway.
One other one:-
Q) Can someone point me to instructions on how to 'backup' the current WM5 rom? I'd like to keep hold of a copy of this incase of incident! ;)
Hope someone can also help Pumats!
Confucious
05-07-2007, 07:10 AM
Hi.
I have more or less the same questions.
I have an HTC X7500 unbranded, bought from Dangaard Italy.
I read carefully the main topic, and someone said that he flashed his device
with the ATHE_WM6_x7500_flasher.rar file, without CID-unlocking it.
Is this correct?
If so, can someone tell me in which order I have to run the four exe files
included?
Thanks in advance
Mauro
I believe X7500s are CID unlocked - although someone says the dutch one is CID locked (although his sig says Ameo not X7500?) if it is CID unlocked you just need to run the ROMUpgradeUtility - and wait! it runs everything else for you and just works (or did on my UK Ameo)
Good luck.
silviu.h
05-07-2007, 08:33 AM
Hi
I have a French X7500, it was SIM-unlocked but it was CID locked, so I had to buy the unlock at IMEI check before I could use the upgrade. However I didn't try the T-mobile upgrade, only the HTC001 or something.
Silviu
pumats
05-07-2007, 10:19 AM
Thanks Confucious!
Now I have to understand if my X7500 is CID-unlocked.
Mauro
boinger66
05-07-2007, 10:37 AM
Thanks Confucious!
Now I have to understand if my X7500 is CID-unlocked.
Mauro
currently the only cid unlock solution is from imei-check
if you didnt unlock it via them... than urs is not cid unlocked
jeremy100
05-07-2007, 11:04 AM
I've got a T-Mobile Ameo. UK rom. Never touched SIm or CID lock.
Ran the exe program as per earler post, but for no obvious reason, Activesync lost connection at 0% and updating stopped.
The Ameo is now stuck in bootloader mode, with a white screen saying "Loading...."
I've tried getting out of bootloader (hard reset, down volume, plus reset) and it just keeps coming back to the "Loading..." screen.
A word of caution then for all of you out there... and a plea for help from someone ;-)
jeremy100
05-07-2007, 11:15 AM
... just incase anyone else has the same problem.
This was more luck than judgement....
I took out the battery re-inserted it with the joystick pressed in.
It re-entered bootloader mode, but this time with the colours showing and USB came up. Activesync then recognised the device again and I've got the install running again... now on 56% ... fingers crossed !!!
Pyrofer
05-07-2007, 11:38 AM
I would recommend anyone flashing their rom does the full unlock from IMEI-Check
Afterall, if there are problems its a LOT easier to fix a SuperCID device (CID unlocked) than one that has a country code.
Also, I was locked to TMob uk, they charge like £15 to remove just the sim lock even if they let you, so may as well spend the £20 and get it all done.
I can now use any rom and any sim, its worth the money.
pumats
05-07-2007, 04:38 PM
Thanks to all for your answers.
I think I'll wait some time to see if an italian WM6 official rom will come out.
In case it will not appear, I'll follow the standard procedure to upgrade, e.g.
CID-unlock, flash, restart and ... hope! ;-)
Mauro
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