I'm desperate for an answer! Who's not having SOD (sleep of that) with which ROM

[nolovelust]

when i first upgraded to wm6 with LVSW (initial release 19-05-2007) i had no SOD issues.

after long time i heard this http://www.4winmobile.com/forums/htc-hermes/10378-new-official-pre-release-htc-europe-wm6-rom-upgrade-available-here.html and upgraded without hesitation. Now my phone having SOD.

so, who's not having SOD (sleep of that) with which ROM?

[thefunkygibbon]

what the hell are you on about man?

[nolovelust]

excuse me?

[hanmin]

I think he meant Sleep Of Death (SOD)

No offence, nolovelust, but if you want to get more help, you should be more elaborate with your post, give more information. You might as well just type "Which ROM doesn't have SOD?". You'll get a lot head scratchings :) Try to be more informative next time.

[nolovelust]

ok :) Which ROM doesn't have SOD

[Dr Puttingham]

5 8525's running Majik for almost a week, not one SOD. I modified the glychcache, keep my IE temp, cookies and history on the SC along with attachments. Is the only ROM where I couldn't go an entire day without a freaking SOD.

[CUSTEL]

I've never had SOD issues...

[nanastas]

Still haven't flashed to Shadow or Majik because it's been so stable.
I'm afraid to fix what ain't broken at this point.
I did have to do a hard reset and re-install apps about 3 weeks ago.
I found a bunch of memory leaks, and now it's even faster and sturdier...

[MHC48]

Heck, I don't even know exactly what SOD looks like (thank goodness), but with a name like that, I'm sure I'd damn well know and be upset about it if it happened.

I've been running vp3G's WM6 v2.0 - RTM for a week now and haven't even had a soft reset, which never happened under WM5. I'm running Pocket Music; Opera; Newsbreak; NoData; DictMgr; Spb Backup and SpbFinance.

[MHC48]

Heck, I don't even know exactly what SOD looks like (thank goodness), but with a name like that, I'm sure I'd damn well know and be upset about it if it happened.

I've been running vp3G's WM6 v2.0 - RTM for a week now and haven't even had a soft reset, which never happened under WM5. I'm running Pocket Music; Opera; Newsbreak; NoData; DictMgr; Spb Backup and SpbFinance; couple Astraware games.

[njmarchetti]

I have been running Sleuth's new ROM for about a week and I get at least one SOD a day (sometimes more). However, this is with keeping Mail attachments, IE files, and programs installed on my storage card. Out of all the recent ROMs, I think I had the best luck avoiding the SOD with vp3G's 3-19 ROM.

I just love the speed and stability(besides dang SOD) of Sleuth's ROM so much that I have been willing to deal with the SOD (although a fix would be GREAT)

[Newb-Tech-Realtor]

5 8525's running Majik for almost a week, not one SOD. I modified the glychcache, keep my IE temp, cookies and history on the SC along with attachments. Is the only ROM where I couldn't go an entire day without a freaking SOD.

Would you mind sharing your tweaks?

I'm also running Majik and have not had a Sleep of Death since taking off Mobile Shell and ALL SPB (returned to SBSH and now testing phone alarm).

What are your cache settings and how does it respond?

Thanks.

Jim

[Sane]

Im running Sleuth's rom at the moment and i was having quite much SOD issues in the beginning... After i uninstalled all my programs from SD card and installed them back to the Tytn's memory, i didnt get any SOD for a while... But in few days the problem was back..

I figured out the reason for the problem; Im saving my emails to the SD card and if my today screen is having the unread email's message, when my PPC goes to sleep: SOD, not always but had it many times.

Now im just opening all the downloaded emails once, even if I have read it at home...

After figuring that out Tytn hasnt died once, solid as a brick...:D

[Sane]

And my email send/receive is set to manual...

[Dr Puttingham]

@ntr - 32768. I left the fs cache to auto.

@sane - what good is email if I can't keep attachments on the SC?

[Sane]

My attachement are saved to the SD, but the point for me was, to read emails when receiving... Not to leave that 5 unread email's notification on my today screen...

Reading the emails seem to have fixed the problem, no SOD's after that. Before, at least once a day...

[blazemanner]

I am running Black Magic with all of the programs suplied by jj, pimp my black, slide to unlock, and some other programs.

I do not have any SOD, or other problems that are not M$'s creation.

[wpbear]

Last time I had that problem was on LVSW 3/26. No issues on LVSW 4/23, LVSW 5/7, VP3G hybrid or latest Sleuths hybrid. ALL ARE GREAT ROMS!!!

[oldominion]

I have Sleuth's new ROM installed and no SOD at all. I highly recommend it!

[nolovelust]

@wpbear which version are you using in this list?

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1262406&postcount=337

[weinson]

I too can vouch for Custel's ROM ... I had SOD on some others (earlier LVSW) but Custel Ultimate has been (and remains) very stable for me.

[GldRush98]

I've been running vp3G's rom since friday and I haven't seen that issue once. Works great!

[angelome]

I have been running Custel's Roms. Never had a sleep of Death.

[vp3G]

Only time I experience a SOD is when my battery hits 20% with the WiFi radio left on. Happens every time, and no, it's not completely dead. :p

I really wish people would run these ROMs in stock form for few days to evaluate them for what they are before they start hacking around with them and loading them up with 3rd party crap. :rolleyes:

[/GRIPE]

[Madcap180]

I was getting Sleep of Death with that 'official' rom from Europe..

Sleep of death is when your phone goes into standby and it just stays there.. the led lights will blink, but your phone won't wake up.

[deadeyed]

5 8525's running Majik for almost a week, not one SOD. I modified the glychcache, keep my IE temp, cookies and history on the SC along with attachments. Is the only ROM where I couldn't go an entire day without a freaking SOD.

that's encouraging. BTW, do you have push email enabled?

[Dr Puttingham]

@deadeyed- yes, exchange 2003.

@vp3G - I have few needs. MS Voice, BatteryStatus, TodayAgenda, your htc x-button cab and a PaulyA dialer skin, is all. I love your ROM but even the last one I had BT issues.....

[jocool]

I am currently on Sleuths ROM and have SOD's and had the same on Faria's JJ's and others. I have nothing extra installed, but still happens. Sounds a bit fishy to me...

Eran

[deadeyed]

[QUOTE=Dr Puttingham;1348929]@deadeyed- yes, exchange 2003.
QUOTE]

Thanks! I'm still on shadow. it seems I should go for the majik.

[diezoo]

I have SOD's problems with SPB Software House mix any ROM, I recomend you, tray don't install any SPB Software (if you do it).
Salute!

[stevebonning]

I've been running Cutel's ROM's and have had no SOD's. Have found a few minor quirks but that's it. Otherwise seems very stable and I've had no desire to change. Works well with BatteryPack Pro, BandSwitch, Cyberon Voice, Voice Commander and about a dozen medical programs. Good job Custel, keep up the outstanding work!

[ThaiM]

I'm still on WM5 and I get the SOD all the time. Seriously, ALL THE TIME.

Including SOD, Random Freezing and booting up to a freeze, my soft reset count is over 130+ in 2 weeks. Yeah it's special. :mad: :( :confused:

[ronfin44]

I'm still on WM5 and I get the SOD all the time. Seriously, ALL THE TIME.

Including SOD, Random Freezing and booting up to a freeze, my soft reset count is over 130+ in 2 weeks. Yeah it's special. :mad: :( :confused:


Then why not change to another ROM? Um, duh?:rolleyes:

[ThaiM]

Then why not change to another ROM? Um, duh?:rolleyes:

I'm still researching. Too scared of a bricked phone... especially when my wife is 8 months prego.

[ronfin44]

I'm still researching. Too scared of a bricked phone... especially when my wife is 8 months prego.


Congrats on the baby!

Ok, so tell me what kind of phone you have. 8525? If so, lemme tell ya, I was worried also when I decided to take the jump and try my first flash, but the guides and info in the wiki is so easy that after the first time it's super eay now. The longest part and scariest is flashing a radio, since that takes the longest. An OS upgrade of new OS ROM only takes a few minutes. Pretty fast. :)

[wpbear]

@wpbear which version are you using in this list?

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1262406&postcount=337

This one I am using since it came out on May 7 and NO problems: http://rapidshare.com/files/31173995/LVSW_FULL_5_7_Big_Stor_4MB_Pg_Pool_SPL_2.10.Oli_IP L_1.04_GSM_1.40_Cingy.exe

But I am trying VP3G 2.0 Hybrid and NO Problems for 3 days so it is good too.

[oldominion]

I'm still on WM5 and I get the SOD all the time. Seriously, ALL THE TIME.

Including SOD, Random Freezing and booting up to a freeze, my soft reset count is over 130+ in 2 weeks. Yeah it's special. :mad: :( :confused:

Well if its already freezing and you have to soft reset all the time, its almost as good as a brick anyways. You will miss the call because it froze. Its seriously really easy to flash a new rom. I hope you will try it out. Congratulations on the baby :)

[Funky B]

Many freezing or SOD issues can be resolved by going to settings - connections - usb to pc and removing the tick under enable advanced network functionality.

[larsuck]

I'm on this thread all the time (though I rarely post), have tried half a dozen WM6 roms and got SOD on all of them. Went back to WM5 and problem solved. But that's my story.

There are dozens of people on here that have SOD with WM5 roms, dozens that have SOD with Black's, LVSW, Custel, Sleuth's, (insert WM6 rom here). And probably hundreds more that have absolutely NO SOD with all of the above roms.

What does this mean? The evidence seems to point to the theory that SOD has no connection whatsoever to what rom you are using. If you are having SOD constantly with every rom you try, look at what programs you are installing when you first flash a rom. Try not installing any programs and see what happens.

[Doom Tints]

I solved the SOD problem on my phone my performing a soft reset after every charge cycle. In other words, after you take it off the charger, you hit the reset button.

(Note that I always charge it on a USB cable, which some of you may also never do).

Since the issue is with multiple ROMs we know that what is causing this isn't the ROM.

I figured out early on that my SODs always appear an hour or two after I have left the phone on the charger for any significant length of time (5-10 minutes or more) and then unplugged it. It was easy to trace back to the charging process because the device also gets warmer after the charge has been completed.

If you get SODs, just hit the reset button after you pull it off the charger. I'm guessing what is happening here is that the device isn't correctly discovering that it has been removed from AC power and is now on the battery, and it continues to try to draw the same amount of power but the battery can't quite do it the way the device wants it to. So what happens is the device refuses to wake up, the case gets hotter, and the battery drains faster. A soft reset, of course, returns the device to sanity.

[ronfin44]

My 8525 never has the SOD after charging it on the usb over-night or any time for that matter. :confused:

[negatong]

when i first upgraded to wm6 with LVSW (initial release 19-05-2007) i had no SOD issues.

after long time i heard this http://www.4winmobile.com/forums/htc-hermes/10378-new-official-pre-release-htc-europe-wm6-rom-upgrade-available-here.html and upgraded without hesitation. Now my phone having SOD.

so, who's not having SOD (sleep of that) with which ROM?

Black Majik. I'm using it, with Touch Home plug-in and phone alarm, no "SOD", but just 'hang' several times so far.

Compared with XDA-Live, Dopod Test, Black, LVSW(0616), CUSTEL, Sleuth's and Schap's which all I have ever used, Black Majik is the most stable, as my experience.

[Doom Tints]

My 8525 never has the SOD after charging it on the usb over-night or any time for that matter. :confused:

We've established that this problem doesn't affect everyone. THANKS THOUGH!

[ronfin44]

We've established that this problem doesn't affect everyone. THANKS THOUGH!

I totally think this is a 3rd party app issue based on what people install. Same phone, same ROMs, but its only the apps that vary from device to device, so like it was mentioned on here that I read, maybe people should run a ROM fresh, nothing in it for about a week BEFORE they go and clutter the damn thing just to see how it performs, then slowly add stuff to it. Worked for me to solve issues in the past. :)

[joej]

Black Majic is the first and only rom I am not getting SOD for about 5 days already. had to soft reset a few times because of app installations, other than that, it's been the most stable so far.

[Dr Puttingham]

I totally think this is a 3rd party app issue based on what people install. Same phone, same ROMs, but its only the apps that vary from device to device, so like it was mentioned on here that I read, maybe people should run a ROM fresh, nothing in it for about a week BEFORE they go and clutter the damn thing just to see how it performs, then slowly add stuff to it. Worked for me to solve issues in the past. :)With every single ROM I run MS Voice Command, TodayAgenda and a PaulyA dialer skin and that's it... doesn't get much more basic than that. Majik is only one that has passed muster for me and the 4 other 8525's I've recently configured.

[moisha]

Anything based on LVSW 0507 and some based on 0519, 0616 can be stable and reliable 99% of the time. 0507 LVSW itself, Sleuth, vp3G, Schap, Custel are few to name. Some other ROMs did SOD, hang, drop BT or HSDPA connections for me more than once-twice a day. Lately few ROMs sucked to the point of making your device good only to play with and bad to rely on or even use with SPB set of apps, Blackberry Connect and A2DP listening.

[rob.ocelot]

I'm on this thread all the time (though I rarely post), have tried half a dozen WM6 roms and got SOD on all of them. Went back to WM5 and problem solved. But that's my story.

There are dozens of people on here that have SOD with WM5 roms, dozens that have SOD with Black's, LVSW, Custel, Sleuth's, (insert WM6 rom here). And probably hundreds more that have absolutely NO SOD with all of the above roms.

What does this mean? The evidence seems to point to the theory that SOD has no connection whatsoever to what rom you are using. If you are having SOD constantly with every rom you try, look at what programs you are installing when you first flash a rom. Try not installing any programs and see what happens.

I think you hit the nail on the head here. SOD seems to be the result of a number of problems (either alone or in combination) all manifesting as the same thing. It will be very difficult to sort out all of the individual causes of SOD and I wouldn't be surprised if that's what is holding up the official HTC WM6 update.

Some have experienced SOD in WM5 as well. It's entirely possible there's some subtle hardware differences in different revisions of the TyTN when combined with certain software causes the SOD. We might have to start looking at model/serial numbers to get to the bottom of this.

Heck, I used to get SOD on my HP4150 (also coincidentally designed by HTC) with WM2003. Granted, it's far less annoying of a problem on a non-phone.

[rob.ocelot]

I solved the SOD problem on my phone my performing a soft reset after every charge cycle. In other words, after you take it off the charger, you hit the reset button.

(Note that I always charge it on a USB cable, which some of you may also never do).

Since the issue is with multiple ROMs we know that what is causing this isn't the ROM.

I figured out early on that my SODs always appear an hour or two after I have left the phone on the charger for any significant length of time (5-10 minutes or more) and then unplugged it. It was easy to trace back to the charging process because the device also gets warmer after the charge has been completed.

If you get SODs, just hit the reset button after you pull it off the charger. I'm guessing what is happening here is that the device isn't correctly discovering that it has been removed from AC power and is now on the battery, and it continues to try to draw the same amount of power but the battery can't quite do it the way the device wants it to. So what happens is the device refuses to wake up, the case gets hotter, and the battery drains faster. A soft reset, of course, returns the device to sanity.

Still not a total fix though, as it's likely to freeze waking up when a call comes in. You made an important observation though WRT to batteries and charging options -- It might be worthwhile for people experiencing SOD's to report which type of battery they have (the older 1300 mAh or the later 1350 mAh). As well there are known issues with usb charging versus the direct wall charger (which has two pins shorted to signal that it's a reliable power source).

I'd even check the load you are putting on your PC's USB bus if you charge using that method since too many devices or an unpowered hub can cause variations in voltage and current that can interrupt the TyTN's charge cycle. It's extremely rare, but I have seen an overloaded USB bus kill a device -- when by all rights it should not. There's a lot of cheaply made USB hardware floating out there that pushes the boundaries with the official USB specs.

[Kassad]

The only ROM that didnt produce SOD was XDA-Live 0.1. All the other ROM's gave me SOD but only when I check my POP3 mail automatically. When checked manually all ROM's are fine..
No problem with my Exchange mail tho.

[seasky3246]

when I'm on WM5, there was never the SOD's, but when I upgrade to WM6, there is the SOD's with every ROM I ever flashed. I'm using the LVSW 0616 WM6 ROM with which there is the least SOD's on my Hermes so far

[shafez]

I have been experiencing SOD on WM5 and WM6, I tried all the available roms here and still have the same problem,I think for me it is because I use the Imaginet Arabizer.

Another very strange thing happens to my JasJam, I get the screen alignment problem only with LVSW roms .

[andis]

i have tried several roms but dutty´s Windows Mobile 6 Premium v2 is the top.Try it . You won't regret it.

[SaarAvigour]

OK, now I can say we've tried them all, one by one, all generating SODs at different frequencies.

The most robust of them was LVSW-Elf 2.1, hacked by us to death with about all hacks and tricks previously discussed on this forum (read back, you can find the threads).

Then a couple days ago I've been introduced here to vP3G new releases (RTM and Hybrid). Tried RTM which SODed on me pretty quickly, then frustrated enough I decided to give Hybrid a look for itself.

I am now on vP3G Hybrid V2, no registry extra hacks, no nothing.. Works like a charm, now more than 32 Hrs., after several recharges, and with all my progs installed.

Now this is a start, since vP3G knows what he did and why it works where none other does. Are you using vP3G Hybrid 2 with no SODs at all too ?

Thx.

===============
The Israeli Team

[nittin_sp]

please pm me i have a solution for sod
100% working

[nolovelust]

please pm me i have a solution for sod
100% working

can't you post it here

[layer1]

I've never seen the sleep of death with LSVW roms. Actually, I did, but that was when I enabled the 'Lock' setting on the phone. Only then I would see the SOD from time to time. Soon as I removed the lock feature it went away.

[chunkymonkey]

can't you post it here

Umm, yes please. The whole rom-cooking thing is a best a grey area - well, (more realsitically) just plain illegal. None of us should be reverse-engineering windows in any form and none of us should be downloading versions we know to be non-approved but we all do one or both - that's why we're here. (I've got all this right, right? Tell me if I've misunderstood the whole thing - wouldn't be the first time..)

I don't think you can get in any trouble posting a solution mate. Fire away.

[Sane]

Had to soft reset today. Allmost a week with no SOD. I was driving with my TyTN on the passenger seat and sun was shining on it. I dont know, could the temperature have somthing to do with it...

[evolution_theory]

I have Majik and have had no issues.

[ronfin44]

I have Majik and have had no issues.


Me neither. Works like a beauty. :)

[TechBill]

SoD commonly occurs with applications that are installed in storage card but controls or run an extension on Today's Screen. I don't ever have SoD problem after I learn of this and avoid installing apps that uses Today Screen on Storage Card.

Any applications that use Today screen should be install on device to avoid SoD.

Bill

[vp3G]

Now this is a start, since vP3G knows what he did and why it works where none other does. Are you using vP3G Hybrid 2 with no SODs at all too ?EnablePeriodicSOD = 0

;)

[andyjs]

I have used shadow and black majik for a while and i never had SOD until i flashed the "official" HTC rom, I know where the problem is. Every time i get an email from my msn (hotmail) through windows live my phone goes SOD :eek:

[Kevlar-Source]

No SOD whatsoever with ANY ROM...
I flashed them all except for the HTC Official.
Presently i use Sleuth's latest ROM.
Sorry i can't help.

[benfica88]

The HTC X-button causes the sod for me. Disabling it fixed the problem...

[kipe]

The HTC X-button causes the sod for me. Disabling it fixed the problem...

..the most likely culprit..

[Sleuth255]

SoD commonly occurs with applications that are installed in storage card but controls or run an extension on Today's Screen. I don't ever have SoD problem after I learn of this and avoid installing apps that uses Today Screen on Storage Card.

Any applications that use Today screen should be install on device to avoid SoD.

Bill

Now isn't this interesting! I've never installed a today screen plugin that runs off SD and I've also rarely experienced SOD. So, this hypothesis is supported by empirical evidence in my case at least.

[larsuck]

:) This might very well make sense in my situation as well. :) I used to have a program launcher, tdlaunch, which while it was located in the main memory had some shortcuts that were pointing to the SD card... Sleuth it out Sleuth!

[mlalahoi]

I know this isn't very helpful, but i was having multiple SOD per day on Schaps ROM, change the power saving settings to simply turn off the screen rather than go into standby, kind of circumvents the problem. Not a very good solution, but it works if you don't have time to tweak what you have running and just need the phone to stay useable for a while.

[hardcore]

I'm running a custom WM6 CE 5.2.1236 Build 17741.0.2.1 based on LVSW.

No Sleep of Death issues. Using a Sandisk 2GB card, formatted using FAT32(4k cluster size). The cluster size seems to make some difference - try using 4k cluster size and see if it helps (bigger clusters do not necessarily mean better performance!).

[AximMarkSD]

i've been on the Custel Ultimate since it was released and haven't had a single issue and i'm running a bunch of Spb apps.

I must say, rock solid.

the Spb apps were mucking up my device when i was running Black IV. I also had some issues w/ VP3G's LVSW ROM but again, i think it was the Spb apps.

Anyway, all's well a/ custel ultimate incl. all the spb apps.

[MHC48]

SoD commonly occurs with applications that are installed in storage card but controls or run an extension on Today's Screen. I don't ever have SoD problem after I learn of this and avoid installing apps that uses Today Screen on Storage Card.

Any applications that use Today screen should be install on device to avoid SoD.

Bill


This makes sense. Under WM5 I had SODs with apps that used Today screen. But since flashing I've loaded all those apps in main memory and have had no SODs.

Q- What if you load an app on SD card but don't use the Today Plug in? Does it still cause SOD?

[chrisnash]

I used to have loads of SOD issues with all the WM6 roms is tried. Then I started manually reinstalling all my cabs after a flash, with a soft reset in between each cab in order to try and resolve a different issue, and I noticed that I was getting far less SOD problems.
Now I always load on each cab one by one with a soft reset and it seems to improve stability of the apps and the device all round. Time consuming I know but worth it.

[Acuum2]

Hi,

I've had SOD on every rom i have tried (AFAI rember)

however, my way to reduce them to a managable rate was to set my scheduled IMAP sync to only sync headers. this makes it much more stable.

as soon as it tell it to auto download entire messages it becomes less stable...

does this tie in with anyone eleses experiance.

I would also love a solution.

(on a side note, is there a way to do make sure that text messages have been written to persistance storage before you do a SR. I've lost several when doing SRs and the latest message hasn't been saved)

[chrisnash]

I make sure I read the text messages before soft resetting. When it boots up it usually shows the message as unread but its better than losing it. Also using the task manager to make sure that 'text messages' is closed down before resetting seems to help.

[fun_key]

Most of the black versions were SOD free for me (I had some strange freeze on Black 2.5 but only when the phone was awoken). Shadow and Majik worked (and still work) pretty well on my device.

I also tried Shaps WWE 3.30b & 3.30c which are also really really good and stable, never had a single sod on those one too. Sadly, the bluetooth stack of the 3.30c is handling in a quite strange way.

[TechBill]

This makes sense. Under WM5 I had SODs with apps that used Today screen. But since flashing I've loaded all those apps in main memory and have had no SODs.

Q- What if you load an app on SD card but don't use the Today Plug in? Does it still cause SOD?


I never experineced any SoD on app that doesn't use today screen or plugin installed on Storage Card. App like Opera browser or GPS software or irc client etc.

Bill

[patrickquek]

I experienced my first SOD on my newly flashed Black Majik LE today.

My unit had WIFI connected and left charging (wall socket). When i came back to look at it 30mins or so I realised that I couldn't turn it on, the LED was yellow and the unit was very hot - had to do a soft reset to turn it on.

I realised that the power wasn't charged too.

The apps I have are minimal:
Goodlink (running)
SPB GPRS Monitor
PhoneAlarm

It definitely seems like the power wasn't directed to charging the battery when it died and ended up heating up the unit considerably.

[roboHaxx]

Hi,

I've had SOD on every rom i have tried (AFAI rember)

however, my way to reduce them to a managable rate was to set my scheduled IMAP sync to only sync headers. this makes it much more stable.

as soon as it tell it to auto download entire messages it becomes less stable...


Same thing here. I sync to my exchange server, and if I try and modify the sync settings at all, I get the SOD routinely. If I leave them at the default settings, I never get a SOD.

btw, I'm running the Black Shadow ROM and it's very stable.

[edhaas]

I never experineced any SoD on app that doesn't use today screen or plugin installed on Storage Card. ...
Bill

I agree. I've never had an SOD experience, but then I've always been careful not to load Today or "resident" (ie Voice Command) type programs onto the storage card.

Regards,

[Sleuth255]

I just finished playing with a little freeware app called "powerstatus.exe". More on this app can be found here (http://www.freewareppc.com/utilities/powerstatus.shtml)

It caused SOD on my TyTN 9 times out of 10. This little app creates a SPB style battery level/memory usage graph on the top of the Today screen menu bar.

There's definitely a link between power status today screen plugins and SOD.

[Dr Puttingham]

I just finished playing with a little freeware app called "powerstatus.exe". More on this app can be found here (http://www.freewareppc.com/utilities/powerstatus.shtml)

It caused SOD on my TyTN 9 times out of 10. This little app creates a SPB style battery level/memory usage graph on the top of the Today screen menu bar.

There's definitely a link between power status today screen plugins and SOD.Ouch! 9 out of 10... I'm running BatteryStatus 1.04, no SOD's.... for about a week now.

[Sleuth255]

hmmm.... the app I'm talking about is powerstatus and it's at v1.1 currently. Try following the link I posted above to see if your's is the same thing. If not, perhaps you might want to try it & report your findings.

I believe that there is a "good" and "bad" way to code powerstatus todayscreen applications. The "bad" way initiates SOD on hermes.

[crazyC]

I use the battery status on o2plus on my today screen and have not had the sleep of death in a long time.....

[layer1]

I use the following and have had no issues.

BatteryStatusExt.1.04

Can find here: http://www.chi-tai.info/cs_BatteryStatus_XDA_Neo_WM5_iM_cs.htm (http://www.chi-tai.info/cs_BatteryStatus_XDA_Neo_WM5_iM_cs.htm)

[Sleuth255]

I guess the point I was making was that today screen plugins that incorrectly interface to the power management module of a hermes can cause SOD. When I get back from vacation, I intend to code up a test app to see if it can give me more insight into Hermes power management; specifically, the actual process of invoking SOD. Ideally, we should be able to create a list of "suspicious apps"... even better, perhaps I can develop a patch to prevent SOD. Having a program like powerstatus that invokes SOD 9 times out of 10 is invaluable in testing the effectiveness of such a patch.

ITMT, I'll load up batterystatus ;)

[johnburn]

I guess the point I was making was that today screen plugins that incorrectly interface to the power management module of a hermes can cause SOD. When I get back from vacation, I intend to code up a test app to see if it can give me more insight into Hermes power management; specifically, the actual process of invoking SOD. Ideally, we should be able to create a list of "suspicious apps"... even better, perhaps I can develop a patch to prevent SOD. Having a program like powerstatus that invokes SOD 9 times out of 10 is invaluable in testing the effectiveness of such a patch.

ITMT, I'll load up batterystatus ;)

You may be on to something here, Sleuth. I usually get an SOD right after loading a new ROM but before I have finished installing all of my apps and changing settings. This usually takes a while because I can't dedicate the full couple of hours that it takes to do this in one shot, and the device often goes to sleep during this time. One of the first apps I load is Resco Explorer, which comes with the Resco Today plugin that of course has a battery icon. One of the last things I do is the tweaks, and HTweakC has an "Increase Battery Life" option which does something (not sure what) to the Hermes power management module. After enabling this option, I don't experience SODs anymore...

John

[darkuriel]

Mmm..my contribution to SOD puzzle and Today apps..

On WM5 I did get a truckload of SOD, even with no powerbar app running (from SPB Pocketplus as example)..during the day but very often after charging up as described a few post before...upgraded to LVSW roms on their various iterations..and NEVER had a SOD again..now I'm on June LVSW, all SPB software installed and run from the SD card, including PocketPlus, Diary etc that are on the Today..and NO SOD in several months of use..only PhoneAlarm is on the Tytn memory..and can charge safely without resetting anything...thanks to the russian heavens ;-)

[derby1395]

Got my TyTN II down here in South Africa at Nashua Mobile. The trial/loaner TyTN II was fine, but when I got my actual phone, it SOD'd all the time.

Found this forum and then found out no one had it solved yet.

Then contacted Nashua Mobile and they contacted Leaf South Africa (HTC distributors for South Africa???) and Leaf had me come in to one of their stores for a software update.

15 minutes later, they had installed Windows Mobile 6.1 and the issue was solved (!!!!), as well as a number of other issues such as a problem I was having with my bluetooth headset, etc.

I did a backup as it wiped everything clean, but it handled it. They also had tons of others who had come in with that problem and this was a standard handling, and they apologized.

So hope this helps solve the mystery and hope y'all have access to a similar store.

[Kevlar-Source]

I've never had SOD issues...

I second that. I've never had SOD issues no mather what ROM I use... I believe SOD issues are device dependant instead of ROM dependant or maybe device + ROM combination dependant but never ROM, all by itself, dependant.

Cheers.

[nlel]

I had the Standby of Death SOD this is when the phone fails to come out of standby with a power button press. This issue only affects some people on some networks. I'm not sure if its a network problem or a software problem but as only a minority of people have it, I suspect its mainly a network problem there is a software solution.

The solution is to change the phone settings band option from auto 3G/2G to either 3G Only (WCDMA + UTMS 2100 in Europe) or 2G Only (GSM + AUTO) depending on your requirements.

Also read this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=540943&highlight=standby&page=2 where the resolution was to get a new SIM.

Obviously this only solves the problem when the crash is because of the sim and/or settings which impact the sim. To rule out a software cause its best to start with a hard reset.