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fryman
6th July 2007, 10:45 PM
Does anyone know anything about T-mobile's new wifi calling known as their "hotspot@home" that came out last week?

Here is the engadget article (http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/27/t-mobile-goes-national-with-hotspot-home-wifi-calling/).

I am hoping that I can move the settings over to my Wizard...because they only offer it with two phones right now so I am hoping they release an update to the Wing with the settings so that I can put the program on my wizard. It sounds pretty cool with seamless transfer from a GSM tower to your own wifi network in your house. Plus it will save me minutes when my wife talks all day long in the house :D

dwny
7th July 2007, 04:08 AM
NO

You need to use one of their wifi phones,
Not a wifi capable phone.

webgrafix
7th July 2007, 05:10 AM
It won't work! :(

The phone is not capable of calling via Wi-Fi, then switching to cellular. They are using a technology called UMA.

Tmobile currently has only two phones that support this.

Hopefully the gurus here can work out a hack!!! :)

Hallis
7th July 2007, 06:32 PM
I was on a t-mobile retail store yesterday. Asked about it while i was in there. And to confirm what everybody else has said the representative said it will not work with the MDA. Or even the Wing. It seems like an interesting idea but im not too concerned about it. I've got a decent plan with plenty of minutes and i rarely use my phone when im home anyway.

Shane

knownuser
7th July 2007, 11:17 PM
guy's,
i'm a UMA developer i doubt any UMA porting will be done for our devices but if anyone really wants to play about with UMA give me a shout.

fryman
9th July 2007, 02:57 AM
guy's,
i'm a UMA developer i doubt any UMA porting will be done for our devices but if anyone really wants to play about with UMA give me a shout.

I would be glad to help in any way that I can but I have very limited experience with programing...I have taught myself everything that I know and that is very little. I think I am going to sign up tomorrow for t-mobile's UMA service and would love to test for anyone trying to port a ROM that supports UMA for the wizard :D

knownuser
9th July 2007, 09:16 AM
i've got 2 WM6 devices which do UMA once there released the guru's maybe able to do something...let me get the manufacturers to fix the bugs i've found first though but we'll have some WM UMA devices within 3 months.....PM me if you need more info.

eboy44
9th July 2007, 09:27 AM
i've got 2 WM6 devices which do UMA once there released the guru's maybe able to do something...let me get the manufacturers to fix the bugs i've found first though but we'll have some WM UMA devices within 3 months.....PM me if you need more info.

NO WAY! if this is able to actually work and make my MDA have UMA i will keep this phone for close to EVER! thats the only thing lacking on my phone it has poor reception at my house

livejamie
10th July 2007, 09:29 PM
NO WAY! if this is able to actually work and make my MDA have UMA i will keep this phone for close to EVER! thats the only thing lacking on my phone it has poor reception at my house

same, i have a 8125 and i'd switch over to tmobile in a heartbeat if a solution was found

fryman
11th July 2007, 01:45 PM
i've got 2 WM6 devices which do UMA once there released the guru's maybe able to do something...let me get the manufacturers to fix the bugs i've found first though but we'll have some WM UMA devices within 3 months.....PM me if you need more info.

That sounds awesome. Thanks for sharing knownuser! I have never read anythig about how difficult it is to port something like this. Does anyone know that once we port something from one of these devices would it then be easy to incorperate it to other devices such as the hermes, herald, or kaiser?

knownuser
11th July 2007, 05:23 PM
That sounds awesome. Thanks for sharing knownuser! I have never read anythig about how difficult it is to port something like this. Does anyone know that once we port something from one of these devices would it then be easy to incorperate it to other devices such as the hermes, herald, or kaiser?

UMA works by encapsulating GSM messages into IP and sending that to a modified network over wifi or bluetooth, remember this when asking about porting UMA as it rely's on GSM stack interactions that are outside of the normal modding that goes on here i'd also like to say i'll not be taking part in any of the playing (i've signed NDA's and its my livlyhood on the line) for the previous reasons i cannot mention which vendors handsets i'm testing now.

eboy44
14th July 2007, 11:22 AM
any new updates about this? im soooo excited about this especially if it is possible

eboy44
28th September 2007, 10:22 PM
any new discoverys on this issue? is there anyway to make our wizard a UMA phone?

ND4SPD
30th September 2007, 01:08 AM
Wow! I'd like to try to help! what can I do to help? I can do some coding, but could you explain how this UMA technology converts the GSM messages into IP messages?

this is still something possible, right? I'd like to exercise my mind outside of the basic stuff we do in my AP comp sci class!

theformula
29th March 2008, 04:51 AM
Did this ever go anywhere?

dc1128
29th March 2008, 09:40 AM
I guess not.:(

papawu
30th March 2008, 01:51 AM
You can make your own. I have done it using trixbox with a fxo pstn card, a rom that supports voip, and a wireless router. Even works with your bluetooth headset.

knownuser
30th March 2008, 07:03 PM
You can make your own. I have done it using trixbox with a fxo pstn card, a rom that supports voip, and a wireless router. Even works with your bluetooth headset.

not really the same thing but if it does what your after good luck to you!


backporting UMA to a wizard is not a relistic proposal guys sorry.

ugly pete
13th August 2008, 03:31 PM
Would be awesome if someone could get it working. I had a nokia phone that broke that worked with @home and i always had reception no matter where i went. I bought a Kaiser thinking that since it had WiFi that it would work. silly me.