battery

[irus]

has anyone used a 3rd party battery if so please let me know how it works. this is the only 3rd party battery i could find but it sold out at the moment and it does not give a price but when i was on about a week ago it said $78.00

http://www.lionbattery.com/description.php?noproduit=1541

thanks

[Lion Battery]

The price is back up but you have to remember that it comes with the battery charger. So you get both a battery and a charger.

They are still out-of-stock but we do have some coming in by sea. This means by the end of August we should have them. However, we are considering getting some by Air. If you think you'd like to be among the first, let me know and if there is enough interest, we'll have some flown in.




Mark :cool:

[lpsi2000]

The price is back up but you have to remember that it comes with the battery charger. So you get both a battery and a charger.

They are still out-of-stock but we do have some coming in by sea. This means by the end of August we should have them. However, we are considering getting some by Air. If you think you'd like to be among the first, let me know and if there is enough interest, we'll have some flown in.




Mark :cool:

Mark,
I will be interested, so count me in for one

[jmdrizen]

Sorry, I'm out of the office and away from the phone at the moment, is this a much higher capacity, and if so, by how much, will it be noticiably better?

Cheers.

[whoster69]

Is it the same size as the standard battery? Can we get it without the charger?

Thanks for the info!

[LTxda]

The price is back up but you have to remember that it comes with the battery charger. So you get both a battery and a charger.

They are still out-of-stock but we do have some coming in by sea. This means by the end of August we should have them. However, we are considering getting some by Air. If you think you'd like to be among the first, let me know and if there is enough interest, we'll have some flown in.




Mark :cool:

Awaiting your answers on the other thread. Let us know what's going on with these so we can get some orders placed, etc.

[Lion Battery]

(Sorry, I was away for the weekend and didn't have internet access.)

The battery is 2400mAh while the OEM battery is 2200mAh (I think). This will give about 10% more capacity. But it does come with its own charger. I was just checking to see how many were immediately interested to see if we should wait until the ocean shipment arrives or should we bring in some by air. I will let you know soon what we decide.


Mark :cool:

[whoster69]

So Mark, does it take up any additional space over the standard battery?

[lpsi2000]

So Mark, does it take up any additional space over the standard battery?

It does not, it is suppose to fit the currently available space.

[Lion Battery]

Thanks lpsi2000. You beat me to the answer.


Mark :cool:

[wgary]

Thanks lpsi2000. You beat me to the answer.
Mark :cool:
Estimate on price??

[Lion Battery]

I don't usually like to estimate so I'll tell you that it is exactly $79.95. I should know tomorrow when we can get some by air.


Mark

[lpsi2000]

okay, let us know when you will have them in stock.

[wgary]

I don't usually like to estimate so I'll tell you that it is exactly $79.95. I should know tomorrow when we can get some by air.


MarkLikely that I'll get one.

[BigDede]

Im sorry to look like a killjoy or a spoilsport, but why paying 80$ for that battery which needs a specific charger (as from what I understood)
when for 71€ you can buy this superb HTC X7500 VGA Cradle With Spare Battery 2200mAh.

This still my own opinion and I respect yours ;)
Just wanted to share this great product with you

http://www.gpsforless.co.uk/product_details.php?id=9910

[LTxda]

Im sorry to look like a killjoy or a spoilsport, but why paying 80$ for that battery which needs a specific charger (as from what I understood)
when for 71€ you can buy this superb HTC X7500 VGA Cradle With Spare Battery 2200mAh.

This still my own opinion and I respect yours ;)
Just wanted to share this great product with you

http://www.gpsforless.co.uk/product_details.php?id=9910

Please correct me if I'm wrong but I thought the battery also charges while inside the phone like the stock battery. Why wouldn't it? Isn't the charger that comes with the battery so you can charge up your spare? Let me know guys because if BigDede is right, then it would suck.

[lpsi2000]

Please correct me if I'm wrong but I thought the battery also charges while inside the phone like the stock battery. Why wouldn't it? Isn't the charger that comes with the battery so you can charge up your spare? Let me know guys because if BigDede is right, then it would suck.

I agree with you and it should charge in the phone and use the charger for either spare battery.

[Ninja1]

If it is like other Mugen/Lion offerings then the charger is a slot type that will charge both the OEM and the Mugen battery. It is not some proprietary offering that will plug into the Mugen. Think about it guys...it has to be pin compatible with the Athena and it's circuitry.

[lpsi2000]

If it is like other Mugen/Lion offerings then the charger is a slot type that will charge both the OEM and the Mugen battery. It is not some proprietary offering that will plug into the Mugen. Think about it guys...it has to be pin compatible with the Athena and it's circuitry.

good point...

[LTxda]

I don't usually like to estimate so I'll tell you that it is exactly $79.95. I should know tomorrow when we can get some by air.


Mark

Mark,

You get a chance to get some in today? Let us know. You got us all anxious to get these new batteries. ;-)

Also, let us know if we can get a quantity discount and if so what the price breaks are at each quantity.

[Lion Battery]

Mark,

You get a chance to get some in today? Let us know. You got us all anxious to get these new batteries. ;-)

Also, let us know if we can get a quantity discount and if so what the price breaks are at each quantity.

Sorry guys but I've been out for a few days. Beleive it or not, I had a heart attack on Wednesday and got home from the hospital yesterday. This is my first time back on the computer (Sunday). So, the charger that comes with the battery is a spare charger. It is not a cradle for the complete device. The battery can be placed on the device and charged in the standard cradle, or you can place the OEM battery on the Mugen Charger and charge it. If you don't want to use the charger, then don't. Use the OEM one. The only reason that the battery comes with the charger is to give you a new option for charging both batteries.

I will see what I can do about getting a group discount for everyone here. I actually think it may be possible. Let me fire off an email to Mugen today and listen to their answer tomorrow.

My doctor says that I now have to work a little slower than before. :rolleyes:

I hate hospitals so I better listen to him.



Mark :cool:

[LTxda]

Sorry guys but I've been out for a few days. Beleive it or not, I had a heart attack on Wednesday and got home from the hospital yesterday. This is my first time back on the computer (Sunday). So, the charger that comes with the battery is a spare charger. It is not a cradle for the complete device. The battery can be placed on the device and charged in the standard cradle, or you can place the OEM battery on the Mugen Charger and charge it. If you don't want to use the charger, then don't. Use the OEM one. The only reason that the battery comes with the charger is to give you a new option for charging both batteries.

I will see what I can do about getting a group discount for everyone here. I actually think it may be possible. Let me fire off an email to Mugen today and listen to their answer tomorrow.

My doctor says that I now have to work a little slower than before. :rolleyes:

I hate hospitals so I better listen to him.



Mark :cool:

First off, I'd like to say we hope you get better and we're glad you're still around after that. Better start getting some excersize in between work and play.

Thanks for the response and seeing about discounts. Talk to you soon. :)

[gtm55]

Sorry guys but I've been out for a few days. Beleive it or not, I had a heart attack on Wednesday and got home from the hospital yesterday. This is my first time back on the computer (Sunday). So, the charger that comes with the battery is a spare charger. It is not a cradle for the complete device. The battery can be placed on the device and charged in the standard cradle, or you can place the OEM battery on the Mugen Charger and charge it. If you don't want to use the charger, then don't. Use the OEM one. The only reason that the battery comes with the charger is to give you a new option for charging both batteries.

I will see what I can do about getting a group discount for everyone here. I actually think it may be possible. Let me fire off an email to Mugen today and listen to their answer tomorrow.

My doctor says that I now have to work a little slower than before. :rolleyes:

I hate hospitals so I better listen to him.



Mark :cool:

Take care!

[jab]

Mark,

Relax, enjoy life and glad to hear you are doing better.

Count me in as one interested in the group discount.


JAB

[lpsi2000]

Mark,

Take easy and definitely take care of yourself. As I said previously count me in for one in the group discount.

[BigDede]

Mark,

take care of yourself mate, health comes in the first place ...

[whoster69]

So sorry to hear about your heart attack. Please take the time to rest up.

[Lion Battery]

Mark,

take care of yourself mate, health comes in the first place ...

Thank you everyone for the kind words. It's funny how things have slowed down for me. I feel like everthing is normal, but after a few minutes, I realize that I am going slower than before. :mad: This really bugs me! Oh well...time to smell the roses. :D

In the meantime, we will get a nice discount on the group purchase. I will not give you the exact discount amount until the stock has arrived, but it is nice.

Thought you'd like to know.


Mark :cool:

[lpsi2000]

The discount sounds great and I hope you get well quickly and soon enough you will be back to normal. You just have to take easy for now.

[tomchap]

Quick note before i ask a question to you all

Mark@LiIonBattery - Get well soon matey, take it easy and slowly get back into things. A friend of mine who I work with had the same thing happen to him, with plenty of rest hes fine now.

Im looking at the 3rd Party Batterys on offer as ive starting using my Ameo away from power sources over the weekend, camping, etc so require a spare battery, would like an extended life one, but otherwise a 2200mah one would be fine.

Anyone seen or used any of the items below.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2200mAH-Battery-for-Dopod-U1000-HTC-X7500-T-moble-AMeo_W0QQitemZ260146071094QQihZ016QQcategoryZ15034 QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

or this one, with desktop charger looks like a good deal

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Battery-Charger-for-HTC-Advantage-X7500-Athena-U1000_W0QQitemZ290144596510QQihZ019QQcategoryZ7544 6QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Any information or feedback would be great. Ive ordered 3rd party batterys before for digital cameras and find they dont last as long as the manufacturers which as i suppose they are considerably cheaper then thats understandable.

Thanks for your info guys

[Lion Battery]

Anyone seen or used any of the items below.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2200mAH-Battery-for-Dopod-U1000-HTC-X7500-T-moble-AMeo_W0QQitemZ260146071094QQihZ016QQcategoryZ15034 QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

or this one, with desktop charger looks like a good deal

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Battery-Charger-for-HTC-Advantage-X7500-Athena-U1000_W0QQitemZ290144596510QQihZ019QQcategoryZ7544 6QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem



Wow! :eek:

I can't compete with those prices. But I never said that our prices were the cheapest. However, the pricing is impressive.


Mark :cool:

[tomchap]

Thats what i thought, i may just get one and see how it perfoms. 6 Month warranty i suppose thats ok, considering the price and the one with the desktop charger looks good.

Will buy one now and report back on the performance. Im just concerned that cheap price, means cheap battery. You gets what ya pays for these days! If it means spending a bit more for a decent battery that works then im sure many people on this forum will be more than happy spending the bit extra.

[tomchap]

Took the plunge and ordered the desktop charger and battery so will see what happens there.

Also found this one on eBay to (i really have too much time on my hands! hehe!)

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Battery-Charger-USB-to-HTC-Advantage-X7500-Athena-U1000_W0QQitemZ190138129526QQihZ009QQcategoryZ2035 0QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Again this one looks good and does state, unlike the others that theres a 6 month warranty. Not sure how good the warranty is but anyway!

Update this thread if any purchases are made and how good or bad the batterys / chargers are.

Good luck! :)

[lpsi2000]

Those prices look great but I am sticking with Lion Battery right now because the last two Mugen Power Batteries (Hermes and Exec) I've purchased were excellent.

Mark, I am waiting for stock, warranty, and the discount.

[LTxda]

Took the plunge and ordered the desktop charger and battery so will see what happens there.

Also found this one on eBay to (i really have too much time on my hands! hehe!)

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Battery-Charger-USB-to-HTC-Advantage-X7500-Athena-U1000_W0QQitemZ190138129526QQihZ009QQcategoryZ2035 0QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Again this one looks good and does state, unlike the others that theres a 6 month warranty. Not sure how good the warranty is but anyway!

Update this thread if any purchases are made and how good or bad the batterys / chargers are.

Good luck! :)

For sure let us know how the batteries perform. I want to purchase at least 6 batteries for myself and friends.

[lpsi2000]

For sure let us know how the batteries perform. I want to purchase at least 6 batteries for myself and friends.

Yeah, I ran out juice for the fist time yesterday. I started around 8am and by 4pm I was at 20%. I use the Navigation for 2 hours in the morning and 1 hour in the afternoon. I was also on phone calls for about 45 mins. I did e-mails (75 incoming and 30 outgoing) all day long in a mostly 3G area. Took some pictures, play a couple of 10 minutes games, surf the net, and watched my slingbox for 15mins. Not bad for a day where I was running some errands. On my way home after 4pm, I plugged my Advantage to my APC Mobile Power Pack and navigated home while talking on the phone (about 1 1/2 hours). At home I did another 10 e-mails. APC Mobile Power Pack ran out of juice and left me with 50% battery.

Not bad at all, but I am sure a 2nd Battery with the little bit more juice than the standard battery would have done better.

Just my 2 cents

[BigDede]

Mark,

I have a question about the charger that comes with the spare battery.
Is it 5V 1A (output)?? im asking as the original charger of the Athena as
well as the dockstation I bought are both 5V 1A (output) ...
My old QTEK 2020i had a charger of 5V 2A (output)

If I use a 5V 2A charger with the Athena it will charge the battery faster, but will this affect the battery life or harm the device???

[azcaddman]

just because the charger says 1A on it, dont count on that all going into the battery.

I was using mine last weekend, gps, plugged into car charger (1A), and after 8hrs or so, the battery was down to 5% .. and this was with screen brightness turned to about 50%.

so, out comes the amp-clamp meter, and i slice apart a 'sacrificial' usb extender cable to get to the individual wires.

usb on computer to x7501 with generic usb - mini usb cable .. average draw 0.35-0.38 amp

Tekkeon My Power Go (http://www.tekkeon.com/site/products-mypowergo.php) using generic cable = 0.40-0.44 amp

Tekkeon using its own cable/usb tip = 0.25 amp

wall charger from HTC - couldnt test it, I dont have a 5pin-5pin extender to cut open.

just got the DUO Mini-5 Adapter (http://www.pocketpctechs.com/main~unit~HTC_Advantage-895~area~accessories-htc+advantage+lil%27+sync%AE+cable+accessories~ite m~LSP-DUOADPT01.htm) .. with it inline

computer usb to Duo-Mini to x7501 = 0.75-0.78 amp

tekkeon battery to duo-mini to x7501 (generic cable) 0.75-0.78 amp

tekkeon battery to duo mini to x7501 (tekkeon battery/tip) = 0.25 amp

so, the duo mini should make a big diff in the charge times, and hopefuly at least keep the battery level up where it was when you started in car w/gps going (no net loss, hopefuly net gain, will try it tomorrow and see)

[BigDede]

just because the charger says 1A on it, dont count on that all going into the battery.

I was using mine last weekend, gps, plugged into car charger (1A), and after 8hrs or so, the battery was down to 5% .. and this was with screen brightness turned to about 50%.

so, out comes the amp-clamp meter, and i slice apart a 'sacrificial' usb extender cable to get to the individual wires.

usb on computer to x7501 with generic usb - mini usb cable .. average draw 0.35-0.38 amp

Tekkeon My Power Go (http://www.tekkeon.com/site/products-mypowergo.php) using generic cable = 0.40-0.44 amp

Tekkeon using its own cable/usb tip = 0.25 amp

wall charger from HTC - couldnt test it, I dont have a 5pin-5pin extender to cut open.

just got the DUO Mini-5 Adapter (http://www.pocketpctechs.com/main~unit~HTC_Advantage-895~area~accessories-htc+advantage+lil%27+sync%AE+cable+accessories~ite m~LSP-DUOADPT01.htm) .. with it inline

computer usb to Duo-Mini to x7501 = 0.75-0.78 amp

tekkeon battery to duo-mini to x7501 (generic cable) 0.75-0.78 amp

tekkeon battery to duo mini to x7501 (tekkeon battery/tip) = 0.25 amp

so, the duo mini should make a big diff in the charge times, and hopefuly at least keep the battery level up where it was when you started in car w/gps going (no net loss, hopefuly net gain, will try it tomorrow and see)

I can say then that using a 5V 2A charger can be a good thing then to accelerate the charging time, specially if im using my device while charging ...

[victoradjei]

If I use a 5V 2A charger with the Athena it will charge the battery faster, but will this affect the battery life or harm the device???

Test and report here :eek:

[Lion Battery]

Mark,

I have a question about the charger that comes with the spare battery.
Is it 5V 1A (output)?? im asking as the original charger of the Athena as
well as the dockstation I bought are both 5V 1A (output) ...
My old QTEK 2020i had a charger of 5V 2A (output)

If I use a 5V 2A charger with the Athena it will charge the battery faster, but will this affect the battery life or harm the device???

To answer your question about the charger: You could use the 5V 2A charger for our SC-U1000, but it would not boot up the charging speed. Since we had an IC inside the Safety Unit which control the input current and limit it as 5A 1V. It will still charge but not any faster. We limit the current going in.

I hope that this answers your question.



Mark :cool:

[BigDede]

Thks Mark for reply

[LTxda]

Any word on the batteries? I'm needing to order some soon. Let us know and thanks.

[Lion Battery]

Any word on the batteries? I'm needing to order some soon. Let us know and thanks.

I have been silent these past few days because I am anxiously waiting for the batteries as well. Our schedule shows that they should be here for Friday (or so). We are pushing to get them cleared through customs but they haven't even hit customs. As soon as we have news that they are awaiting customs release we know that it'll take 1-2 more days to get to our door. At that time I'll let yo uknow what the discount is and we'll begin taking orders. (I do not want to give any competitors a head start.)

I'll keep you posted.


Mark :cool:

[LTxda]

I have been silent these past few days because I am anxiously waiting for the batteries as well. Our schedule shows that they should be here for Friday (or so). We are pushing to get them cleared through customs but they haven't even hit customs. As soon as we have news that they are awaiting customs release we know that it'll take 1-2 more days to get to our door. At that time I'll let yo uknow what the discount is and we'll begin taking orders. (I do not want to give any competitors a head start.)

I'll keep you posted.


Mark :cool:

Thank you sir. I know how it is. Hopefully they don't get held up in customs. :-)

[jab]

Any word if the batteries cleared customs?

[Lion Battery]

Any word if the batteries cleared customs?

Cleared customs and expected in our warehouse on Monday. We've already added them to our online inventory (can be seen HERE (http://www.lionbattery.com/description.php?noproduit=1541)), so we can start accepting orders. Now, as for the discount....

When you place your online order, if you use the discount code: xda-developers15 you will save 15% on both the product and shipping costs. Just keep in mind that this discount is only until September 1. After that, it will expire.

Enjoy!



Mark :D

[whoster69]

Cleared customs and expected in our warehouse on Monday. We've already added them to our online inventory (can be seen HERE (http://www.lionbattery.com/description.php?noproduit=1541)), so we can start accepting orders. Now, as for the discount....

When you place your online order, if you use the discount code: xda-developers15 you will save 15% on both the product and shipping costs. Just keep in mind that this discount is only until September 1. After that, it will expire.

Enjoy!



Mark :D

Can this charger be used to charge the original battery as well?

Thanks again Mark!

[Lion Battery]

Can this charger be used to charge the original battery as well?

Thanks again Mark!

I believe that it can.


Mark :cool:

[jab]

Mark,

Thanks. Just ordered.

[Ninja1]

Ditto. Thanks Mark.

[whoster69]

Placed my order.... Yesterday! :D

[olegzz]

When you place your online order, if you use the discount code: xda-developers15 you will save 15% on both the product and shipping costs. Just keep in mind that this discount is only until September 1. After that, it will expire.
Mark :D


Hi Mark,

I was about to submit my order, but I saw you don't deliver to Russia. That's very sad. Why?

Oleg.

[Lion Battery]

Hi Mark,

I was about to submit my order, but I saw you don't deliver to Russia. That's very sad. Why?

Oleg.

Of course we ship to Russia. We do it all the time. But we have to do it manually. Please contact our customer service department and they will explain how to do it.


Mark :cool:

[lpsi2000]

Mark,

Just placed my order and I hope to see it soon.

[LTxda]

Get the batteries in? I want to order a few.

Also, if I order 5 batteries, I get 5 chargers right? One per battery?

[Lion Battery]

Get the batteries in? I want to order a few.

Also, if I order 5 batteries, I get 5 chargers right? One per battery?

According to UPS, the batteries are "out for delivery" but they haven't reached our door yet. So they are probably still on the truck. And you get 1 charger per battery.


Mark :D

[lpsi2000]

According to UPS, the batteries are "out for delivery" but they haven't reached our door yet. So they are probably still on the truck. And you get 1 charger per battery.


Mark :D

Mark,
Any words on the batteries? Did you get them yesterday? Are they shipping to us today? :)

[Lion Battery]

Mark,
Any words on the batteries? Did you get them yesterday? Are they shipping to us today? :)

They've come and gone. Everyone who ordered them has received shipping notices. They were shipped today.


Mark :cool:

[lpsi2000]

They've come and gone. Everyone who ordered them has received shipping notices. They were shipped today.


Mark :cool:

Yep, I got a notification of the order being approved, however no shipping information yet.

[Lion Battery]

Yep, I got a notification of the order being approved, however no shipping information yet.


Leo,

Check your @bigfoot.com email. It was sent to that address.



Mark :D

[lpsi2000]

Leo,

Check your @bigfoot.com email. It was sent to that address.



Mark :D

Bigfoot is having technical issues which is the reason I switched my e-mail. No worries, I am just going to be looking for the mail man every day until it arrives:)

Edit: Got my battery today and so I will see how well it performed.

Thanks as usual Mark.

[nuclear]

The largest internal capacity battery available is 2400mah. Am i right?

[Lion Battery]

The largest internal capacity battery available is 2400mah. Am i right?

That's what we have available for now.


Mark :)

[harjac]

If it comes from this guy it is a FAKE, badly made copythat does not fit the supplied charger!
I have 6 pictures to show the differences!
e-mail: harjac@skynet.be

and he pretends it is "just from another factory" when the label says Sanyo!
this is his details:

My address: Flat A, 16/F, Block 5, Chelsea Heights, Tuen Mun, Hong Kong
----- 郵件原件 ----
收件人 ishophk2005@yahoo.com.hk
傳送日期﹕ 2007 年 9 月 1 日 星期六 下午 7:08:36

[Lion Battery]

If it comes from this guy it is a FAKE, badly made copythat does not fit the supplied charger!
I have 6 pictures to show the differences!
e-mail: harjac@skynet.be

and he pretends it is "just from another factory" when the label says Sanyo!
this is his details:

My address: Flat A, 16/F, Block 5, Chelsea Heights, Tuen Mun, Hong Kong
----- 郵件原件 ----
收件人 ishophk2005@yahoo.com.hk
傳送日期﹕ 2007 年 9 月 1 日 星期六 下午 7:08:36

Am I the only one who is lost with this message?



Mark :confused:

[LTxda]

If it comes from this guy it is a FAKE, badly made copythat does not fit the supplied charger!
I have 6 pictures to show the differences!
e-mail: harjac@skynet.be

and he pretends it is "just from another factory" when the label says Sanyo!
this is his details:

My address: Flat A, 16/F, Block 5, Chelsea Heights, Tuen Mun, Hong Kong
----- 郵件原件 ----
收件人 ishophk2005@yahoo.com.hk
傳送日期﹕ 2007 年 9 月 1 日 星期六 下午 7:08:36

Please explain and remember this is an English forum. We welcome everyone but would like a common language to communicate with. I know English is not the first language for everyone on the forum but we all do the best we can.

[skoop99]

Would love to order one of these... International shipping costs (to the UK) are a bit steep, though - $55? ouch... Even with the 15% off, it still comes to a total cost of $115... Wallet's going to hate me if I do that...

[roelof999]

Any verdict yet about the usability of the desktop charger and battery?

[LTxda]

Any verdict yet about the usability of the desktop charger and battery?

Are you asking about the ones that LionBattery sells?

Just a heads up...the batteries come with a charger but no cable nor plug. It's the battery inside the charger that has a female USB port to plug your cable/wall plug into. Still works perfectly for me. :-)

[roelof999]

So it is a replacement battery for the Amea, to be placed in a batteryholder which has a female (mini) USB plug?

Sounds good. Any idea about the capacity of the battery?