Toshiba Portege G900 or Kaiser

[rookery]

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Toshiba+Portege+G900&search=
http://www.gsmarena.com/toshiba_g900-1905.php

are there any other Windows Mobile with 128 MB ram available?

[Churchill]

After seing the Toshiba I am starting to doubt if I want the Kaizer....

[srmz]

No doubt the G900 screen resolution outclasses the Kaiser by a signicicant margin. However user's comments all over the net regarding useability of this screen in medium to bright sunlight conditions sort of puts me off. What is the benefit of a good resolution when probably half the time you cannot use it.

Regards

[lmf_slacker]

not the Toshiba please as there is the 'frozen' issue, hang when you off the phone and unable to reach you when someone calls you... Plus one for the Kaiser... :)

[stombacco]

it's easy to crictice and compare whith a device that is not out for sales. it's true that g900 havel some problems but nobody remember what about tytn when come out? i guess that in one month g900 problem's will bè solved and kaiser will come out in september with other problems that will maker people unhappy.cheers

[adelamare]

To me this phone looks like only a slight step forward from the universal and only in form factor mostly.

It has no GPS and still a 2mpix camera. Both minus points. Ok.. it has Windows mobile 6 but who doesn't have that with half a clue.

No one is sure yet that the HTC omni is actually vapour ware or something real and if the OMNI were real its somewhere near where i would expect the G900 to be in terms of features.

The kaiser seems to have the next step forwards in all round features (apart from the screen res that is) but with a screen as small form factor as the Hermes would you want 800x480 or similar? it would be much harder to read generally though web pages would look better i agree.

[magnamar]

also consider the g900 is a triband where the kaiser is quad not a problem in most places but here in the U.S if you dont have that 850 you are SoL in a large area still :-(

[PhilipL]

Hi

I'm also thinking of the Kaiser after returning the G900.

The screen is great but there are some things worth remembering:

1) No matter how good it is, it's not much use if you can't see it outside, it's a mobile device after all and that to me means in or outdoors use, but the G900 is indoors only. Believe me in bright daylight it's a struggle and in sunshine you can hardly tell if it is on or off.
2) Windows Mobile 6 doesn't run at the panels native resolution (it would be unusable if it did see point 3) and so is scaled bigger, so when in Windows Mobile you are getting the same amount of information per screen as you would with a 240x320 resolution. The ratio of the G900 means you end up with a bit more vertical space, but not a lot of difference.
3) When using anything that takes advantage of the G900 resolution, i.e. remote desktop or viewing a web page at 100%, while everything is pixel perfect and sharp, text and images are so incredibly small I felt like I was going cross eyed after a few minutes of squinting at the screen. You'd struggle to read anything on the move at that resolution and certainly couldn't outdoors in daylight.
4) The screen measures 45x65mm, I'd recommend cutting out a piece of paper to those dimensions just to visualise how small that screen is. Most pictures you view on your computer of the G900 will see the screen larger than real-life so it's a bit misleading when you screen shots.

Taking the practicalities into account of just how usable the G900 resolution is, and realising the screens outdoor limitations and it's tiny size making anything running to take advantage of that resolution migraine inducing, I can understand completely why the Kaiser is still 240x320, it's a practical resolution for a tiny display.

The money saved on the Kaiser by having a sensible resolution means you get a lot more extra elsewhere.

If the G900 had a 240x320 resolution, would anyone show any interest in this phone for it's other features?

The G900 also has reliability issues that may or may not get satisfactorily fixed.

Regards

Phil

[addicus]

Say what you want. The one thing I said I wish the Kaiser had was a bigger screen. I wouldn't buy the device because I'm not a fan of Toshiba but the form factor is impressive along with the fingerprint identification and the mouse type availability (sort of).

[addicus]

Hi

I'm also thinking of the Kaiser after returning the G900.

The screen is great but there are some things worth remembering:

1) No matter how good it is, it's not much use if you can't see it outside, it's a mobile device after all and that to me means in or outdoors use, but the G900 is indoors only. Believe me in bright daylight it's a struggle and in sunshine you can hardly tell if it is on or off.
2) Windows Mobile 6 doesn't run at the panels native resolution (it would be unusable if it did see point 3) and so is scaled bigger, so when in Windows Mobile you are getting the same amount of information per screen as you would with a 240x320 resolution. The ratio of the G900 means you end up with a bit more vertical space, but not a lot of difference.
3) When using anything that takes advantage of the G900 resolution, i.e. remote desktop or viewing a web page at 100%, while everything is pixel perfect and sharp, text and images are so incredibly small I felt like I was going cross eyed after a few minutes of squinting at the screen. You'd struggle to read anything on the move at that resolution and certainly couldn't outdoors in daylight.
4) The screen measures 45x65mm, I'd recommend cutting out a piece of paper to those dimensions just to visualise how small that screen is. Most pictures you view on your computer of the G900 will see the screen larger than real-life so it's a bit misleading when you screen shots.

Taking the practicalities into account of just how usable the G900 resolution is, and realising the screens outdoor limitations and it's tiny size making anything running to take advantage of that resolution migraine inducing, I can understand completely why the Kaiser is still 240x320, it's a practical resolution for a tiny display.

The money saved on the Kaiser by having a sensible resolution means you get a lot more extra elsewhere.

If the G900 had a 240x320 resolution, would anyone show any interest in this phone for it's other features?

The G900 also has reliability issues that may or may not get satisfactorily fixed.

Regards

Phil

Okay - I wish I read your post before my last. Great write-up.

[puerrican85]

2) Windows Mobile 6 doesn't run at the panels native resolution (it would be unusable if it did see point 3) and so is scaled bigger, so when in Windows Mobile you are getting the same amount of information per screen as you would with a 240x320 resolution. The ratio of the G900 means you end up with a bit more vertical space, but not a lot of difference.
3) When using anything that takes advantage of the G900 resolution, i.e. remote desktop or viewing a web page at 100%, while everything is pixel perfect and sharp, text and images are so incredibly small I felt like I was going cross eyed after a few minutes of squinting at the screen. You'd struggle to read anything on the move at that resolution and certainly couldn't outdoors in daylight.

If the G900 had a 240x320 resolution, would anyone show any interest in this phone for it's other features?

Phil

Couldn't you technically increase the the screen's running resolution to its native by editting the registry? Like on the Universal there are apps or registry changes you can make for it to actually display true-vga. Maybe it can also be done on the g900.

-Edit:: Reread point 3. lol Good point, the universal's screen was big and was able to use vga pretty well. I could imagine the g900's screen size running true wvga. I'm sure it would be quite a problem reading anything on it.

[tubeme]

I just got one and the display is great. If you have to work with larger excel tables, browsing etc.

It has Flash light on the Camera! Something the HTC's lack. The processor is great too. Good speed. It is just a mater of time until we open a section for this phone on XDA so there should me more stuff comming up for the phone.

I like it a lot, the price is not bad as well. It costs less than SonyEricsson's P900 when they lauch it.

If you need security this is the phone. It has fingerprint reader. The security is must for me. Also the card reader is conveniently placed on the side of the unit so you can change the MiniSD very easily. Also the MiniSD is 1/2 the price of MicroSD so I can buy more cards. I'm sure Toshiba will give great support as well.

They allready posted a Patch for the freezing problem if you get one. I personaly haven't got this problem so I don't need patch... Also very nice camera for the Video Conferencing. And a nice VoIP option...

Also great backlit keyboard.

Great Phone.

I'm sure HTC will hit with something similar. If they get something better in a year or two I will sell the G900 and buy HTC.

I had P3300, they promised WM6 original ROM for June!!!!! Nothing.

Thanks got there is XDA and Tom Codon roms in order to get better value from the P3300.

[tubeme]

There is Flash Light for the Camera which HTC lacks, at least the P3300. I'm not aware of HTC with FlashLight on the camera.

[steveiodm]

I had a g900 and the screen is fantastic for web pages.. I could read everything pretty easily when viewing a full page, but zooming in and out is easy too.

The locking issue should now be fixed with a patch, however I did experience other crashes too. The main reason I returned it was that the radio is terrible! I hardly ever got any 3g reception which renders its main feature, fast internet, pretty much useless. Even in central London.

[rookery]

haha, just wondering if TouchFlO would able to run on G900

[pho]

wm6 supports karger natuve resolutiomn than 320 240 i think niow 640 by 480
g900 was my top choice but no 3g in the us the 3g is single band only!

the glofish only have 64m of ram

[gogol]

Agree with PhilipL, the resolution of G900 is nice but it is not practical.

The physical screen size is too small for 800x480.

3.5" VGA would be the best!

[technillion]

I owned the Toshiba 2032 (aka Audiovox Thera) a few years back. What a disaster!! It was by far the worse PPC device I ever owned! Toshiba provided absolutely NO support for that thing. I vowed then to NEVER buy another Toshiba device.

TEC