Can't use GPS with any application on Trinity

[olegv24]

Hi All,
Looking for the help. I am desperate.

I purchased HTC Trinity and installed 20070418_RUU_Trinity_LVSW_WWE_1.25.0.8_GPS_AKU3.5. 2 rom, which is excellent.

Using Radio Rom 1.41.00.11

However here is the problem. Trying to use GPS with either Windows Mobile Search or Google Maps.
Tried different setting for GPS, different baud rates, different hardware settings.
Nothing, both application can't find GPS.

Any ideas, help?

Tnx

[aeberbach]

Trinityhack3 has an option to enable GPS icon. Once done you can see that GPS is in your device and default settings are active. Then I used VisualGPSCE (http://www.visualgps.net/VisualGPSce/default.htm) to verify GPS is there, there is a real time display of what satellites can be seen. You must change settings to select your GPS com port! Beeline GPS (http://www.visualgps.net/BeeLineGPS/default.htm) will find your GPS automatically but it is a 30-day trial.

Be patient, first fix can take 10-15 minutes even in clear skies.

[ww2250]

Don't know about Mobile Search, but definitely Google Maps is NOT a GPS app. It's a paid service that doesn't use your internal GPS in any way. It has been answered before in this forum. Do some search. Probably it's same for Mobile Search too...

[goudkamp]

... Google Maps is NOT a GPS app. It's a paid service that doesn't use your internal GPS in any way...

Google Maps is a paid service, only if you have to pay for the data connection you'll need to download the maps / images in realtime. Google Maps DOES support the internal GPS, however it's optional.

Give it time, the Trinity needs at least 10 minutes to get a fix after a soft reset. The default settings are COM9 115200 but I advise you to set it to the NMEA standard of 4800baud, just to avoid problems.

If you want to use more GPS apps at the same time, or use your Trinity as a USB or Bluetooth GPS mouse for your Mac/PC, I advise you Franson's Gpsgate.

[aeberbach]

Don't know about Mobile Search, but definitely Google Maps is NOT a GPS app. It's a paid service that doesn't use your internal GPS in any way. It has been answered before in this forum. Do some search. Probably it's same for Mobile Search too...


Google maps does have a track location function that will use internal GPS to display current position on the map. In a supported area, and these are few, it does navigation also.

[olegv24]

Trinityhack3 has an option to enable GPS icon. Once done you can see that GPS is in your device and default settings are active. Then I used VisualGPSCE (http://www.visualgps.net/VisualGPSce/default.htm) to verify GPS is there, there is a real time display of what satellites can be seen. You must change settings to select your GPS com port! Beeline GPS (http://www.visualgps.net/BeeLineGPS/default.htm) will find your GPS automatically but it is a 30-day trial.

Be patient, first fix can take 10-15 minutes even in clear skies.

I download VisualGPSCD and changed seeting. The good thing it is showing GPS is there!

The bad things :) still can't use GoogleMaps. I indeed pointing to COM9.
Any other ideas?

[aeberbach]

Did you give it enough time to give you a lat/long fix in VisualGPSCE? I have found once you do that Google Maps has no trouble else it can just not work.

Check "Track Location Settings" under Options in Google Maps too. I have mine set to "Set by Windows (Via Start -> Settings)". In Windows Mobile 6 I have in Settings (System tab) an icon called "External GPS". Programs is set to GPD1, hardware is COM9/115200 and Access is "manage GPS automatically (recommended).

[olegv24]

Did you give it enough time to give you a lat/long fix in VisualGPSCE? I have found once you do that Google Maps has no trouble else it can just not work.

Check "Track Location Settings" under Options in Google Maps too. I have mine set to "Set by Windows (Via Start -> Settings)". In Windows Mobile 6 I have in Settings (System tab) an icon called "External GPS". Programs is set to GPD1, hardware is COM9/115200 and Access is "manage GPS automatically (recommended).


Well, I did all this.
Other GPS software (e.g. IGO) is working, but not GoogleMaps. Strange ...
Any other ideas are welcome.

BTW have the same problem with Mobile Live Search (Microsoft mapping software).

[contextus]

Be patient, first fix can take 10-15 minutes even in clear skies.

first fix means cold fix (for example the first of the day) or the first fix of the PDA???

[aeberbach]

Yes I mean cold start 10-15 minutes. Since that first long wait I have found it only takes 30 seconds-1 minute at worst.

[ednet75]

hi,
same pb with me. I tried everything for vito astronavigator.
Nothing. I tried each settings in the apps: every com port, different baud.
normally when it sees the built in gps, you get a colored planete. here nothing.
With trinity i tried a fiew changes, with no success.
I knew that tomtom was famous for blocking other gps apps.

DO you have any clues or soft for this?

[NeilM]

...I knew that tomtom was famous for blocking other gps apps.

DO you have any clues or soft for this?

TomTom only blocks other apps when its actually running. Once you exit it releases the COM port. This is universal with apps that link to the physical COM port- only one app at a a time can access the GPS stream, unless you use an intermediary program like GPSGate.

With WM5, MS introduced the GPSIntermediary Driver (GPSID) which was supposed to allow multiple apps to access GPS at once by assigning a Virtual GPS COM port, but it didn't work properly until WM5 AKU3 was released; even then TomTom, and most other SatNav programs prefer to connect to the physical port.

[H_callahan]

i have found that new verson of wm mobile handle gps better, i use Mun rom and it seem to get alone fine with it,

:)