Automatic Outlook Mail/Exchange Synchronizer [rk-OSR] [Latest Update: 15 OCT 2007]

[tytnguy]

rk-OSR version 1.0.10 Automatic windows mobile outlook mail and exchange active synchronizer.

Here is a application I developed for my personal use now sharing with you all for non commercial use.
I basically use this utility to check emails from multiple email accounts from my windows mobile device using the wifi, gprs networks

You can even perform Exchange Active Sync too!



Feature list

Works on windows mobile 5 and 6.
Can sync up multiple email accounts at multiple schedules setup.
Can perform Exchange Active Sync.
Connect using: Wi-Fi only, Wi-Fi if not GPRS, Manual Wi-Fi, Gprs Only or Existing connection(USB)
Switch off GPRS/3G after sync
Option not to sync during Saturdays and Sundays
Get notified on emails or failed attempts
Get notified with custum sound(wav files).
Keeps device 'Alive' till all the accounts have been synchronized.
Supports 'Silent' mode.
Supports command line initiation.
Supports one touch* email checking(one touch on the shortcut connects to wi-fi network and switches between accounts and synchronizes and then hangs up wi-fi)
Can be set to sync only if device sleeping.
Does not write anything to registry.
Does not run in background.(works on notifications)
You can uninstall the application from ‘Remove programs’ and delete the application directory.
Installation:
Install the cab file attached below

After installation launch the program rk-OSR from the programs and go thru each tab page to configure it and finally save the settings (make sure the Enable check box is checked) test the functionality if working properly. Then close the application. Now the sync should happen at next specified schedule.



*One touch synchronization: A Very good feature for people checking mail manually, so that you do not have to switch accounts and click the sync menu each time or start/stop wifi etc, just one click to do that now. You can also assign this shortcut to hardware buttons. The new install adds a new program icon called ‘rk-OSR-Now’ to your programs list. But you need to do the following procedure done before attempting ‘rk-OSR-Now’ shortcut.

You should configure the ‘rk-OSR’, and make sure it is working properly and you are able to synchronize your accounts properly.
You must edit the shortcut, rk-OSR-Now; add additional text “Now” without quotes. Basically your target should read as below
"\Program Files\rk-OSR\rk-OSR.exe" Now
Hope it is simple to configure.
I have been using it on TyTn with WM6.
By the way this is my first WM application!;)

Following command lines supported
"\Program Files\rk-OSR\rk-OSR.exe" Now ---> Checks the mail manually
"\Program Files\rk-OSR\rk-OSR.exe" Enable --> Enables the rk-OSR
"\Program Files\rk-OSR\rk-OSR.exe" Disable --> Disables the rk-OSR

Update: 1.0.10
Added better file browser to locate the *.wav files
Fixed the bug with the 'Wait time to Sync'

Email.zip is a sound wav file 'You got mail' (ofcourse female voice! ;) )

Note: this application requires Compact Framework 2.0
You need compact framework 2.0 installed inorder to run this application. The compact framework is already part of WM6, so if your device is WM6 skip this step. But most of the WM5 devices do not have this update. So you must download here (http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=0c1b0a88-59e2-4eba-a70e-4cd851c5fcc4&displaylang=en) and run the installation on your desktop (then active sync to update your device). Only after completing this step install the application.

New: If you want 'Push Like Mail' support please follow the application link to rk-SMS Switch (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=379440)
How to info for rk-SMS Swich with rk-OSR here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2049716&postcount=221)

If you like the application please show your support by donation on Paypal (https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_xclick&business=karkera%2esoftware%40gmail%2ecom&item_name=Support%20the%20Developer&no_shipping=1&cn=Your%20email%2cJust%20to%20send%20thanks&tax=0&currency_code=USD&lc=CA&bn=PP%2dDonationsBF&charset=UTF%2d8)

Download from here (http://ibyte.web.officelive.com/WindowsMobile.aspx)

[tytnguy]

Looks like this post of mine pushed down too fast because of the WM6 release(Wrong timing:( )

So i am just bumping my post up.

Anyone has any feedback?

[Aslher]

I have synchronization problems whith gprs connection and activesync.
I try it you software....
Thank you.

[tytnguy]

I have synchronization problems whith gprs connection and activesync.
I try it you software....
Thank you.

If you have synchronization problems already the rk-OSR might not work for you.
rk-OSR just schedules the outlook synchonizations, all the sync logic is on the outlook, not in rk-OSR

First you have to fix the problem with your sync, then only you could use rk-OSR

HTH

[tytnguy]

Please read the first post for the updated information and the cab file.:)

[aeroke]

tytnguy - I'll try the app and get back here.

the idea sounds solid and do sync manually, so thx for the app allready
Keep up the good work in making life better for everyone ;)

[tytnguy]

There was a bug..
If you used Wifi to sync then any subsequent attempt to switch on wifi using the communication manager would fail(till soft reset:eek: )

Its fixed in version 1.0.2 now :)

[shantzg001]

I'm not sure why this app is not getting more attention, i mean syncing over wi-fi, isnt that what everyone has been cribbing out ever since AS4/WM5 came out??
neways, thnx for the app, will try it out..

[damase]

let me see if I understand this app correctly before testing it :
At a given schedule it will turn on wifi
Synch
disconnect wifi

Right ?

What if im not at home at the time, so dont have wifi, will it default to GPRS ?

What happens to the schedule I have allready set in activesync ?

Right now i have just scheduled in active synch. So it uses either wifi provided I turned it on when i got home or if not turned on, GPRS.

thks

[tytnguy]

let me see if I understand this app correctly before testing it :
At a given schedule it will turn on wifi
Synch
disconnect wifi

Right ?



Yes It does.



What if im not at home at the time, so dont have wifi, will it default to GPRS ?

thks

Right now i do not have that functionality, but I will look in to that possiblilty



Right now i have just scheduled in active synch. So it uses either wifi provided I turned it on when i got home or if not turned on, GPRS.
thks

I am not clear on the above. Can you explain a bit more?

Thanks

[stynos]

Hi there tytnguy, I've got a question:

I'd like to use your app; I have an exchange account for work; but for my private mail I use the Outlook Mobile. The problem is that when I set it to sync every 30 minutes or so; it keeps doing that during the night; waking me (an the misses) every time someone tries to sell me Viagra, Russian brides or weight-loss pills.

The times you enter in the "schedule-tab"; are those the exact times that the app will sync? Or are those the times between which the "outlook-Mobile schedule" will be active?

BTW: looks brilliant for a first-timer!

[tytnguy]

Hi there tytnguy, I've got a question:
....waking me (an the misses) every time someone tries to sell me Viagra, Russian brides or weight-loss pills.

:) :) I know its not funny

Hi there tytnguy, I've got a question:

The times you enter in the "schedule-tab"; are those the exact times that the app will sync? Or are those the times between which the "outlook-Mobile schedule" will be active?


Exact time on which you want the schedule to occur.

Thank you

[stynos]

Exact time on which you want the schedule to occur.

Thank you

Thanks for the quick reply!
Do you mean the time the sync will occur?

[tytnguy]

Thanks for the quick reply!
Do you mean the time the sync will occur?

Sorry about the typo.
I meant to say 'Exact time the synchronization will occur' :)

Quick answer.. Yes

[damase]

Yes It does.



Right now i do not have that functionality, but I will look in to that possiblilty



Right now i have just scheduled in active synch. So it uses either wifi provided I turned it on when i got home or if not turned on, GPRS.

I am not clear on the above. Can you explain a bit more?

Thanks

Sure, in active sync, in the email properties you can say check for new mail every 4 hours or2 hours etc.., and determine settiings for peek, and off peek days/times.
It then checks if i have new email according to this, using either wifi provided I leave it on, or gprs if wifi is off.

[stynos]

Sorry about the typo.
I meant to say 'Exact time the synchronization will occur' :)

Quick answer.. Yes

Brilliant! I just had it sync; works like a charm!
The only thing: the device wakes up. Any change of performing the actions in the background? So the screen doesn't come on?

[tytnguy]

... or gprs if wifi is off.

Are you able to setup the network configurations to use Wifi and if not available then to use GPRS?
I am not able to do it on my TyTn?

[damase]

I dont think I setup anything specific really...
If Wifi is avaialble and the phone is connected to my acees point at home it uses wifi to connect to the internet and so on
If its not, it goes through connecting to the net via GPRS

Im running WM6 by the way.

[stynos]

I dont think I setup anything specific really...
If Wifi is avaialble and the phone is connected to my acees point at home it uses wifi to connect to the internet and so on
If its not, it goes through connecting to the net via GPRS

Im running WM6 by the way.

You only use exchange?

[damase]

yes only exchange

[tytnguy]

I dont think I setup anything specific really...
If Wifi is avaialble and the phone is connected to my acees point at home it uses wifi to connect to the internet and so on
If its not, it goes through connecting to the net via GPRS

Im running WM6 by the way.

hmm... i am not able to do that on my TyTn WM6 though.
I am not using the exchange..

How about your internet access using IE? does it connect using wifi and if not gprs automatically?

[stynos]

hmm... i am not able to do that on my TyTn WM6 though.
I am not using the exchange..

How about your internet access using IE? does i connects using wifi and if not gprs automatically?

tytnguy; damase only uses exchange; the schedule for this is set in ActiveSync; not in Outlook. He doesn't need your app...

[tytnguy]

tytnguy; damase only uses exchange; the schedule for this is set in ActiveSync; not in Outlook. He doesn't need your app...

Yes stynos I am aware that he is just using the Exchange to sync up.
But my question is ... Is it possible to setup pda to use wifi if exists if not use gprs?

I am not able to do that as it is. I remember my old pda 2003 used to do that. How about your device? I am thinking of building some interface so that if wifi is not available then to use gprs(based on the user settings)

I basically use wifi to sync up. Both my ISP and the Work locations pointing to my network in the configurations.
Thanks

[stynos]

Sorry; I misunderstood...

I believe there is an app that does this (setting a "connection-group" like in Symbian). I used it before we (the company) switched to exchange. I tried to find it but I can't seem to remember the name...

And is it possible to make your app run in the background? So the screen stays off?

[damase]

How about your internet access using IE? does i connects using wifi and if not gprs automatically?

Yes it does.

[tytnguy]

And is it possible to make your app run in the background? So the screen stays off?

I will look in to it. But issue could be... Since device needs to connect WiFi , may be i just have to run the app but just keep the screen off(not the suspend/sleep mode). But i will try that next :)

Thanks

[stynos]

Perhaps only make the "connect to Wifi-part" in the foreground? I have one of those unlimited data-plans; And I'm rarely in the office or at home anyway... (who needs a personal life...)

[stynos]

Hi tytnguy,

I had your app running today and in basics it's perfect!

But what fun is a perfect app for a developer... ;)
I was in my car before; running TomTom; and the device hoplessly crashed when a sync was started. I almost couldn't perform a soft reset; because halfway through the reset; your app would start attempting to sync.

Perhaps it would be better to dot the "background" thingy...

Anyway; good luck!

[tytnguy]

Hi tytnguy,

I had your app running today and in basics it's perfect!

But what fun is a perfect app for a developer... ;)
I was in my car before; running TomTom; and the device hoplessly crashed when a sync was started. I almost couldn't perform a soft reset; because halfway through the reset; your app would start attempting to sync.

Perhaps it would be better to dot the "background" thingy...

Anyway; good luck!

Sorry to here your problem while running TomTom,
I do not have TomTom so I am not able to re-create what you experience:confused:

But, let me see if I can isolate the issue and have some fix

1) Is TomTom running as a full screen app? If so are you able to launch any other application such as oulook while TomTom running? Also if it is possible to run TomTom as not full screen and see if rk-OSR syncs?

2) Do you think its related to memory, I know TomTom would draw lot of cpu to run?

Just a workaround for the problem you reported, restart the device only after the schedule time is expired, once time expired the scheduled event does not occur.
I am trying to find a fix for this issue.:)

[stynos]

Hi there tytnguy,

I must say I'm impressed: a reply on a Saturday morning at 7.25... You are either a very dedicated developer, or just not from my time-zone... ;)

TomTom is indeed a fullscreen application. And I am able to start other applications while TT is running; either by pressing the buttons, or "minimising" TT, by pressing the OK-button and use my plugins or start-button. (pressing the start-button in TT only shows the menu for a moment. However, using the down-arrows I can stuill scroll through the menu, only the highlighted item will show through TT).
And I don't think it is a memory-issue; I have almost no "memory-consuming" apps running. I still about 10 MB of free Program memory and 23 of storage memory left...

Ran into another issue: I was picking up some colleagues at the airport last night, and as I was sending them a text message, your app started. That meant I had to stop typing; because my Outlook "had a life of it's own". No crash this time; but it was inconvenient... I can imagine that, whatever you're doing at the time of a scheduled sync, one would have to stop doing that untill the sync is completed... I'm sounding like a drag, but I believe that running it in the background would solve a lot of issues (that is of course if you're not using WiFi...

If you need more feedback; let me know!

[tytnguy]

Hi there tytnguy,

I must say I'm impressed: a reply on a Saturday morning at 7.25... You are either a very dedicated developer, or just not from my time-zone... ;)



Well 7:25 is 10:55 where I belong! So but that does not mean that I am not dedicated programmer!:cool:

Memory issue I pointed was, since the rk-OSR might* be consuming all the remaining memory while it is being loaded as well as TomTom already open. The applications developed with Visual Studio and dotnet have some issues with loading the assemblies for the ‘first time’. But I am suspecting the cause could be, since outlook tries to come in front of TomTom, is causing this issue. But that can be handled by keeping outlook minimized while sync.

I see other issue you encountered at airport, may be the sync should not happen automatically if outlook is already opened, may be a setting would help.

But running a program in the background looks not possible as of now, as to do GPRS connect it needs to be powered on. I know the scheduling on the outlook does connect while sleep mode, but Microsoft compact framework exposes very little of the core functions to the developer. But in any case I will keep that request in my mind and if any new idea flashes I will gladly update it. After all you are the only one used the application and replied back:D

Thank you.

[stynos]

Well 7:25 is 10:55 where I belong! So but that does not mean that I am not dedicated programmer!:cool:


No harm intended! ;) You are obviously interested in the feedback; so you just be a dedicated developer!



But running a program in the background looks not possible as of now, as to do GPRS connect it needs to be powered on.


Are you sure? When I'm using Outlook's schedule to send/receive it does so even when device is sleeping. The device only wakes up when I have new email... My connection practically always on anyway, because of my "pushmail" connection through ActiveSync... Even when I'm not connected, my device doesn't wake up on connecting, only on notification of new email.

...But in any case I will keep that request in my mind and if any new idea flashes I will gladly update it...

Well, since you ask:
I can imagine there are other people in need of a more "customizable" send/receive schedule. I would actually be willing to pay for receiving my email, but not at 4 in the morning. Maybe you could look into only the schedule-part, set up a paypal-account and retire in the Bahamas?

Thank you.


No, thank YOU!

[tytnguy]

New connection option added so now you can connect using WIFI first if WiFi not available then the default (GPRS/Edge/3G) would be used. (Note: you need to configure the connection setting to this to work properly).

Another setting ‘Sync only while sleeping’ added, with this setting, as the name suggests the automatic synchronization occurs only if the device is sleeping. So if not sleeping it won’t interfere with your activities on the device.

Latest cab file is updated to the first post

[Andre Koster]

I would love to use this application for automatically synchronizing outlook (contacts and appointments, etc) over WiFi. But I see that's not possible with the current version, it's for email accounts only :( . If it's not too difficult to add it, it would be great!

[tytnguy]

I would love to use this application for automatically synchronizing outlook (contacts and appointments, etc) over WiFi. But I see that's not possible with the current version, it's for email accounts only :( . If it's not too difficult to add it, it would be great!

You mean sych up with the 'exchange server' over wifi?

I know its not supported (donot know if its easy to do) but just making sure t o understand your request.:)

[Andre Koster]

You mean sych up with the 'exchange server' over wifi?

I know its not supported (donot know if its easy to do) but just making sure t o understand your request.:)

Indeed, sync with a exchange server on the internet. In Activesync, the lowest setting is every 4 hours, and you can't say "wifi only". Sometimes I noticed it feels the need for sending all my contacts (it shouldn't, but still), which takes about 1 MB. When GPRS is used, it eats away too much of my dataplan. Synchronizing quietly over over WiFi once a night would be perfect.

[tytnguy]

Noticed possible bug with version 1.0.3

"When the option *Sync only while sleeping* is selected, the *rk-OSR Now* shortcut would not perform a manual sync up of all configured email accounts."

If anyone needs a fix for this behavior let me know. Otherwise I will update it whenever I release the next version.

[feathers]

This could be just what I'm looking for!

My Aim:

I want to synchronise my (single) mail account periodically via WiFi under WM6.

My Problem:

Using WM6 alone, I see no way of doing this as the entire OS seems built on a foundation of cellular connections of some form. The Messaging app will use WiFi if it's available but it won't wait for a WiFi connection to form if one isn't already present. This is really annoying, particularly as My PPC2003 device sort of managed to do this...most of the time.

The Solution:
The solution looks to be this application. My requirement comes down to finding a piece of software that will hold off a Messaging synchronisation request until a WiFi connection has had a chance to form - 10s or similar.

From all that I read here, that looks to be exactly what this app offers. I'm looking forward to trying it!

[feathers]

OK, tried it and it just about does what I need. I have a couple of problems, however (or at least my Toshiba G900 does!).

1) It doesn't seem able to switch WiFi on or off on the G900. This in itself is not a problem to me since I switch WiFi by my profile software and leave it enabled when I'm at home but it may be a contributory factor to the second issue I have.

2) When unread mail is found, a notification is raised...and raised...and raised with the alert tone sounding continuously at 20(ish) second intervals until the Notification is dismissed. I'm wondering if this may be something to do with the inability to shut down WiFi (both my timers are set to the default 20s).

As I say, I don't actualy want it to shut down WiFi, so I'm happy with that behaviour (maybe if this is 'fixed', it could have an option of some sort to determine whether it should be shut down or not?) but whatever it does, the constant alerting makes it a bit of a problem to leave unattended about the house for any period of time.

That aside, this has answered a big problem (to me) with WM6 and I'm very pleased to get my automatic WiFi mail schedule capability back.

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With reference to the discussion about fetching email while suspended, what WM does in its automatic mode is power up in what Microsoft terms 'unattended' mode (I believe) where everything is powered and available except for the screen. It doesn't do anything while suspended. Thus both the phone and WiFi radios are available for internet connection and mail fetching, but nothing is displayed.

Whether your development tools allow you access and control of such a mode, of course, is not a question I can answer, but if they did then running without lighting the screen up would be a great addition to the software.

(Sorting the mail events in time-order would be nice too.)

[tytnguy]

First of all thanks for such a detailed feedback, appreciate it.:)


... mail is found, a notification is raised...and raised...and raised ... at 20(ish) second intervals...

rk-OSR does not do anything special to raise the new mail alerts. But since you said that they are raised somewhat for 20secs (=your timer setup) makes me wonder. What is the ‘Internet’ connection setting in the application?
If you have already established the connection then, try the option Exiting connection (USB) in this mode the application does not attempt to make any internet connection.


That aside, this has answered a big problem (to me) with WM6 and I'm very pleased to get my automatic WiFi mail schedule capability back.

Happy to note that :)


WM does in its automatic mode is power up in what Microsoft terms 'unattended' mode (I believe) where everything is powered and available except for the screen.

That's a great tip, I will look in to that option..

Thanks again

[feathers]

rk-OSR does not do anything special to raise the new mail alerts. But since you said that they are raised somewhat for 20secs (=your timer setup) makes me wonder. What is the ‘Internet’ connection setting in the application?
I'm using WiFi only though the same happens in other modes.
If you have already established the connection then, try the option Exiting connection (USB) in this mode the application does not attempt to make any internet connection.
No, the connection's not already established. What I mean is that WiFi is enabled but the device is off. Thus on power-up I need to hold off mail collection until the connection is established, but I don't actually need to do anything to establish the connection as it hapens automatically...if you see what I mean. (I'm using the 'Sync if Sleeping' option)

[tytnguy]

I'm using WiFi only though the same happens in other modes.

No, the connection's not already established. What I mean is that WiFi is enabled but the device is off. Thus on power-up I need to hold off mail collection until the connection is established, but I don't actually need to do anything to establish the connection as it hapens automatically...if you see what I mean. (I'm using the 'Sync if Sleeping' option)

Ok, You swich on the wifi then turn off the device... Next time when rk-OSR starts up... it connects to the wifi and then it checkes the mail...

Try increasing the 'Wait for connection' timeout to 45 sec or so. Hopefully it makes proper connection then.

Also check your sound notification settings in the system settings.

If you manually check the email using the rk-OSR application... Then what happpens? do you have the same notification issue?

Or... since it is trying to close the wifi connection... and not able to do so for some unknown reason... is causing the issue...In that case i could add a setting so that application will not auto close the wifi after sync..
But let me know

[feathers]

Ok, You swich on the wifi then turn off the device... Next time when rk-OSR starts up... it connects to the wifi and then it checkes the mail...

Try increasing the 'Wait for connection' timeout to 45 sec or so. Hopefully it makes proper connection then.
I've got proper connection going OK with suitable timeouts. As this is the main reason I wanted an application like this, I'm pretty happy about it too!

Also check your sound notification settings in the system settings.
Not quite sure what I'm checking them for...but they look OK to me.

If you manually check the email using the rk-OSR application... Then what happpens? do you have the same notification issue?
I haven't tried that yet (at work at the moment so no WiFi) but I did a run using the 'default connection' after which the notification bonged once and the device shut down after the appropriate timeout as every other notification does.

I'll try it manually via WiFi this afternoon (UK time) when I get in.

Or... since it is trying to close the wifi connection... and not able to do so for some unknown reason... is causing the issue...In that case i could add a setting so that application will not auto close the wifi after sync..
That's my ideal...but it's your application so the decision on such things is yours.

[feathers]

I haven't tried the 'Now' option (because I haven't figured out the editing of shortcuts!) but using the Test option from within the application elicits the same multiple alert result if that's an equivalent.

Assuming I figure the shortcuts out, is there a way to enable/disable th application via the command line? That would allow me to completely automate my email processing.

[tytnguy]

I haven't tried the 'Now' option (because I haven't figured out the editing of shortcuts!) but using the Test option from within the application elicits the same multiple alert result if that's an equivalent.

Assuming I figure the shortcuts out, is there a way to enable/disable th application via the command line? That would allow me to completely automate my email processing.

Regarding the 'Now' option do not worry at the moment as i am working on it... Things going to change a bit there...
But regarding the the command line... yes its possible... Just wait till next release... You will have command line support!

[feathers]

But regarding the the command line... yes its possible... Just wait till next release... You will have command line support!
Excellent news!

Assuming you go ahead with the Wifi switch disable option, is there anything I can do (or look up) to help actually switch WiFi on my device? Even though I don't want to do it personally, someone else might.

[tytnguy]

Hi guys here is the latest update on rk-OSR

Following new settings added
‘Wi-Fi’ manual on/off: This option added specifically for people whose network card is no detected by rk-OSR. So basically you would switch on your Wi-fi card manually and turn off the device. On scheuled time the device just turns power on internally so that sleeping Wi-Fi card would connect. Then once the connection is found it syncs up the email accounts and turns off power to the device.

Sync silent’: With this setup the auto synchronization would happen with the screen off.

Sleep device after sync: suspends the power after synchronization.

rk-OSR now the shortcut needs to be modified as ‘Now’ in place of ‘AppRunAtTime’.

Also you can manually synchronize the accounts with following command line
“\program files\rk-osr.exe” now

[feathers]

Thnks for this - installed and running OK, but it's giving me a few problems:


It seems to run OK with the new manual WiFi option, but that doesn't solve my multiple alert issue as I'd hoped it might.
The 'power down after Sync' option powers the device off even when new mail is found. In practice, this means that when notifications are enabled, the Notification alert doesn't sound until I power the device up again later on. Perhaps when notifications are enabled, the software should only power the device down if no unread mail is found but leave it on if a notification is being raised?
The silent mode hangs my device when I switch it on after a mail sync and requires a soft reset to get out of. (I know it's after the sync because the LED started flashing to indicate a new message once I turned it on but the screen never came up to let me see what it was. Bizarrely, the notification was then raised after the reset.)


Sorry, it's not all good news with respect to the new features from my perspective :(

[tytnguy]

...but that doesn't solve my multiple alert issue as I'd hoped it might.
Check the sounds notification for any abnormality.
Are you using some kind of application to track emails? (Profile supported programs such as phone alarm etc) since they also have mechanism to announce new mail…*May be* multiple sound notifications are raised from different sources. Also try a non wifi connection to pda.. And simulate the auto sync on rk-OSR and see if the multiple notifications are raised. I do not know if any other device has this issue. So any one having the same issue please report


...the software should only power the device down if no unread mail is found but leave it on if a notification is being raised?
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Agreed, next release


...The silent mode hangs my device

Try the auto sync feature. With existing connection or something else (with out wifi though) and (I know you will not get any mail, but that does not matter) then let the phone go to sleep mode by the application. See if the device hangs up now (just trying to see if the wifi card is the culprit)


...Sorry, it's not all good news with respect to the new features from my perspective :(
We will try :)

[Bensat]

Thx a lot! Nice application. I'm gonna download and test this small app. Perhaps this is something for me.....:D

[feathers]

Check the sounds notification for any abnormality.
OK, my bad. I uninstalled my profile software and adjusted the notification settings manually. Guess what...single, sensible, notifications.

Thanks for the hints though, sorry for the red herrings.
Agreed, next release
Great.
Try the auto sync feature. With existing connection or something else (with out wifi though) and (I know you will not get any mail, but that does not matter) then let the phone go to sleep mode by the application. See if the device hangs up now (just trying to see if the wifi card is the culprit)
I've done some tests in this area and I think I know where the problem lies.

To set up for this I did the following:

1. Soft reset (WiFi drivers are not loaded until WiFi is enabled on my device so a soft reset gets rid of them)
2. Selected 'Default' mode in place of WiFi (with the WiFi radio switched off.)

What I found:
1. With no new mail, the G900 switches on normally after a 'Silent' fetch.
2. With new mail (I manually marked a message as unread) the device failed to power up and needed a reset.

I then tried the same with WiFi switched on and achieved the same results. It look like it's the attempt to raise a notification in Silent mode that's causing the problem. Maybe the device needs waking up fully before a notification can be correctly handled?

Hope that helps!

Mike

[tytnguy]

OK, my bad. I uninstalled my profile software and adjusted the notification settings manually. Guess what...single, sensible, notifications.
Thanks for the hints though, sorry for the red herrings.
Great.

Wow thats great, I should thank you for feedback!


....It look like it's the attempt to raise a notification in Silent mode that's causing the problem. Maybe the device needs waking up fully before a notification can be correctly handled?

Hope that helps!
Mike

This is still better news for me, you did a wonderfull debugging for me... I will fix it next release.

Since I disable the notifications here while debugging.. I was not able to pinpoint that error.

Thank you for your help,

[tvachev]

Very usefull app! Unfortunately it doesn't work properly on my ETEN x500 ...
It seems it doesn't see the WiFi card because it doesn't switch it on/off

I would like to see it working very much though :(

Nice work!

Thanks

[feathers]

Very usefull app! Unfortunately it doesn't work properly on my ETEN x500 ...
It seems it doesn't see the WiFi card because it doesn't switch it on/off

I would like to see it working very much though :(

As I understand it, there may be 2 possible issues here:

1. rk-OSR simply doesn't switch your WiFi (it doesn't with my G900 either)

2. On some devices, apparently, third party software can't switch WiFi until it's been manually enabled by the 'built-in' software. This is apparently due to the fact that the WiFi drivers are only loaded when WiFi is enabled and can only be switched when loaded. (The G900 does this one too - I've proved that with PhoneWeaver from SBSH).

To make sure you have problem 1 (and not problem 2), make sure you've tried this software after switching WiFi on and off manually. If it still won't switch, then you have problem 1 (like me).

[feathers]

Thank you for your help,
No problem - I have a personal interest in seeing you getting this working as well as possible :)

Could I make one more feature request please?

I would like to see the ability to do the following via the command line:
"\Program Files\rk-OSR\rk-OSR.exe" Enable
"\Program Files\rk-OSR\rk-OSR.exe" Disable

That would allow me to use PhoneWeaver to automatically switch rk-OSR mail facilities on and off automatically on a profile switch.

[tytnguy]

Very usefull app! Unfortunately it doesn't work properly on my ETEN x500 ...
It seems it doesn't see the WiFi card because it doesn't switch it on/off

I would like to see it working very much though :(

Nice work!

Thanks

Sorry to hear that you are not able to switch on your wifi card.

Are you able to switch on the wifi card using any other 3rd party software?

[tytnguy]

No problem - I have a personal interest in seeing you getting this working as well as possible :)

Could I make one more feature request please?

I would like to see the ability to do the following via the command line:
"\Program Files\rk-OSR\rk-OSR.exe" Enable
"\Program Files\rk-OSR\rk-OSR.exe" Disable

That would allow me to use PhoneWeaver to automatically switch rk-OSR mail facilities on and off automatically on a profile switch.

feathers,
Could you let me know what you mean my 'Enable' and 'Disable'. You mean you are trying to rk-OSR auto sync disable and enable OR Force application to check mail?
Please confirm.
Thanks

[feathers]

feathers,
Could you let me know what you mean my 'Enable' and 'Disable'. You mean you are trying to rk-OSR auto sync disable and enable OR Force application to check mail?
Please confirm.
Thanks

The first of those options - I want to control the state of the red 'Enable' checkbox on the Accounts tab via the command line.

[tytnguy]

The first of those options - I want to control the state of the red 'Enable' checkbox on the Accounts tab via the command line.

Will be done next release :)

[tytnguy]

Bug, System hangs when you are doing a 'Silent Sync' and message notificaton is checked. Now system would wake up and show a notification
Couple of command line parameters added to 'Disable' and 'Enable' the applicaton.


Also check if you can use the above command line along with the applicaton rk-Sleep, so that you can switch on the mail checking when you are at home and switch off mail checking while out!!:D

[tytnguy]

Brilliant! I just had it sync; works like a charm!
The only thing: the device wakes up. Any change of performing the actions in the background? So the screen doesn't come on?


stynos, Are you still using rk-OSR? FYI the above feature has implemeted in the current version.

[tytnguy]

feathers, tvachev
Can you look in to the registry in device for me?

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\Power\State\Suspend
There should be a key such as
("{98C5250D-C29A-4985-AE5F-AFE5367E5006}

And

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\POWER\State
There should be a DWORD value
("{98C5250D-C29A-4985-AE5F-AFE5367E5006}\TIACXWLN1"

Let me know what you find. You can post it here it is not a 'Secret' :)

[feathers]

Bug, System hangs when you are doing a 'Silent Sync' and message notificaton is checked. Now system would wake up and show a notification
Couple of command line parameters added to 'Disable' and 'Enable' the applicaton.


Excellent change. I've already created shortcuts for the Enable and Disable command line commands.

Two problems:

1. The Enable command works as expected i.e. it runs and enables rk-OSR (indicated by the WM busy indication appearing for a brief period). The Disable command also works i.e. it Disables the application, but it seems to get stuck in a loop such that the busy indication appears repeatedly until I run the main rk-OSR application. That appears to be the only way to stop the cycling.

2. The 'Sleep device after Sync' option doesn't keep the device awake to raise notifications so if you use it, you don't get a notification until the next time the device is powered. If you use this option at the same time as the 'Sync silent' option then the device hangs and needs a soft reset if a notification is attempted.

[feathers]

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\Power\State\Suspend
There should be a key such as
("{98C5250D-C29A-4985-AE5F-AFE5367E5006}
That key contains a single value:
(Default) DWORD with a value of 4
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\POWER\State
There should be a DWORD value
("{98C5250D-C29A-4985-AE5F-AFE5367E5006}\TIACXWLN1"
I have "{98C5250D-C29A-4985-AE5F-AFE5367E5006}\CHEETAHGSP1" which has a value of 1 at the moment (FWIW, WiFi is off).

The Cheetah is the WiFi hardware in the G900...but I suspect that its presence here tells you that!


Edit: Interestingly, this value is toggled between 1 and 0 when my profile software toggles the WiFi state but is left alone when I use the Toshiba supplied software to toggle it.

[tytnguy]

Interestingly, this value is toggled between 1 and 0 when my profile software toggles the WiFi state but is left alone when I use the Toshiba supplied software to toggle it.

Could you manually toggle that value and try the rk-OSR (with wifi automatic option)?
Just want to see what happens

[feathers]

Could you manually toggle that value and try the rk-OSR (with wifi automatic option)?
Just want to see what happens

Sync is equally unsuccessful in both states i.e WiFi connection is not attempted by the device.

FWIW the log reports 'No wireless adapters found'

[aameerp]

very handy and a time saver thank you very much

[tytnguy]

Sync is equally unsuccessful in both states i.e WiFi connection is not attempted by the device.

FWIW the log reports 'No wireless adapters found'

feathers, I have attached a test application, Please copy it to your device and execute it(from any location). Try to switch on / off. See if your card gets activated.

Let me know the outcome

[feathers]

feathers, I have attached a test application, Please copy it to your device and execute it(from any location). Try to switch on / off. See if your card gets activated.

Let me know the outcome
The test program switches my WiFi on and off as well as my profile application does (and is subject to the same limitations).

Congratulations!

[Ixtana_ran]

Hello tytnguy, great set of programs. Will try out to see if they are useful to me, thanks.
Now my question, I'm probably being dense here but could you explain how to set up/add an account please? can't see any way of doing it.
Running you're latest cab, 1.0.5 Thanks.
Running it on a Wizard if that make a difference.

[feathers]

Now my question, I'm probably being dense here but could you explain how to set up/add an account please? can't see any way of doing it.

Add an account to what?
The accounts list in this application is sucked straight out of the built in Messaging application. If the account is present in there, then it's present in rk-OSR as well.

[Ixtana_ran]

Add an account to what?
The accounts list in this application is sucked straight out of the built in Messaging application. If the account is present in there, then it's present in rk-OSR as well.

Right not seeing anything in account list, will try reinstall.??
Thanks

[tytnguy]

The test program switches my WiFi on and off as well as my profile application does (and is subject to the same limitations).

Congratulations!

Thats great then, I will update the rk-OSR to support your wifi card. So now it should work automatically.

(and is subject to the same limitations).

what limitations?

[feathers]

what limitations?

Like the HTC Wizard (I believe) the G900 only loads the WiFi drivers when WiFi is enabled for the first time after a soft reset. Thus after each reset it's not possible for third party applications to enable WiFi straight after a reset.

Basically, I need to manually switch it on after each soft reset (to load the drivers) then any third party app can take control and switch it on and off as required.

[tytnguy]

Like the HTC Wizard (I believe) the G900 only loads the WiFi drivers when WiFi is enabled for the first time after a soft reset. Thus after each reset it's not possible for third party applications to enable WiFi straight after a reset.

Basically, I need to manually switch it on after each soft reset (to load the drivers) then any third party app can take control and switch it on and off as required.

OK, I am aware of that behavior but i guess you have to live with that. But i think it should be ok as you do not soft reset you device :eek: that freequently?
:)

[Ixtana_ran]

Right, got it working, new it would be my fault. Was trying to get it to synch mail2web account, can't do that unless you pay for pop3 use. Set it up with GMail account works like a dream and it has the added function I was hoping for, updating weather on HTC Home, whilst wifi is enabled.
Thank You

[tytnguy]

...added function I was hoping for, updating weather on HTC Home, whilst wifi is enabled.
Thank You

:) I do that, Everymorning when i wake up i have the weather update! :cool:

[tytnguy]

Update 1.0.6


Support for additional wifi cards when the wifi adapters not recognized by the rk-OSR. Now you can specify the name of the network card manually.
Issue with system hang when ‘Sleeping’ and notifications are raised is finally fixed
Error with the ‘Disable’ command line is fixed

[feathers]

Update 1.0.6


Support for additional wifi cards when the wifi adapters not recognized by the rk-OSR. Now you can specify the name of the network card manually.
Issue with system hang when ‘Sleeping’ and notifications are raised is finally fixed
Error with the ‘Disable’ command line is fixed

I've been using this overnight and have had a few problems:

I can't work out how to drive my WiFi card using this version. Entering CHEETAHGSP1 into the appropriate box, for example, and selecting 'WiFi Only' has no effect i.e. nothing is switched on. Am I missing something? e.g. am I supposed to include any '\' characters or similar in that dialog?
Using 'Silent mode' and 'Sleep after Sync' in combination now causes my device to lock up when there are no new messages!

I see that the option to not display the application log page while running has disappeared from the list of options. While my intent is to run Silent, so I wouldn't see the log page in any case, running with 'Sleep after Sync' selected means that the log page is now flashed on screen every time the device is first turned on after a synchronisation session. (I'm assuming this will also be the case if 'Sync silent' and 'Sleep after Sync' are both selected but since that combination doesn't work for me, I have no evidence to support the assumtion yet!)

[tytnguy]

I've been using this overnight and have had a few problems:

I can't work out how to drive my WiFi card using this version. Entering CHEETAHGSP1 into the appropriate box, for example, and selecting 'WiFi Only' has no effect i.e. nothing is switched on. Am I missing something? e.g. am I supposed to include any '\' characters or similar in that dialog?
Using 'Silent mode' and 'Sleep after Sync' in combination now causes my device to lock up when there are no new messages!

I see that the option to not display the application log page while running has disappeared from the list of options. While my intent is to run Silent, so I wouldn't see the log page in any case, running with 'Sleep after Sync' selected means that the log page is now flashed on screen every time the device is first turned on after a synchronisation session. (I'm assuming this will also be the case if 'Sync silent' and 'Sleep after Sync' are both selected but since that combination doesn't work for me, I have no evidence to support the assumtion yet!)

Sorry about that, I am going to make a new release tonight hopefully it will fix the issues above

:)

[feathers]

Sorry about that, I am going to make a new release tonight hopefully it will fix the issues above
Thanks. (Tonight in which time zone? ;))

(I hope you don't mind all these comments BTW, my intent is to be positive, i.e. test and report, rather than to complain.)

[tytnguy]

Thanks. (Tonight in which time zone? ;))

(I hope you don't mind all these comments BTW, my intent is to be positive, i.e. test and report, rather than to complain.)

No problem at all feathers, I really appreciate what you have been doing. Problem is I can not sit tight when I get a problem reported. So i said tonight. Infact all my releases are at arround 1AM local time :D

[tytnguy]

I can't work out how to drive my WiFi card using this version. Entering CHEETAHGSP1 into the appropriate box, for example, and selecting 'WiFi Only' has no effect

hmm that is a mystery for me.. It should have worked since the test app i sent you switched on the card...
Are you sure that you are entering CHEETAHGSP1 in the WiFi adapter box?
Also you must have already manually switched on/off the card before trying.

You must have but just checking... :)

[feathers]

hmm that is a mystery for me.. It should have worked since the test app i sent you switched on the card...
It still does. I haven't deleted it yet.
Are you sure that you are entering CHEETAHGSP1 in the WiFi adapter box?
I just tried it again - deleting what was there in case of any leading spaces that I couldn't see etc but it still does nothing.
Also you must have already manually switched on/off the card before trying.

You must have but just checking... :)
Indeed :)

As I say I just tried it back-to-back with the test app. That worked but rk-OSR didn't.

[tytnguy]

feathers Good Morning :)

Can you please check the attached version on your device.

I have just changed some logic to the sleep, unattended mode etc hope to fix.
But the last verson on which you reported hang up...I do not have any of them. I tested the old version on Hermes and Blue Angel(WM5) it works...But looks something specific to Toshiba i dont know
But see if the version i attached makes any difference

Also check if you are able to connect to your wifi. (you dont need to specify the card etc now, internally i get it)
Thanks again

[feathers]

Once again I've been running this for the evening and the good news is - no lock ups! Whatever you did in that area has fixed the problem I was having.

There is still no automatic WiFi connection, however.

As a minor point, I also see that the app now flashes up on the screen (briefly)when called from the command line. It's hardly a big deal though :)

[tytnguy]

Once again I've been running this for the evening and the good news is - no lock ups! Whatever you did in that area has fixed the problem I was having.


That's good, I do not know what all I tried but good that it works



There is still no automatic WiFi connection, however.

I think it's not big deal as the test app is working, Its just matter of time


I also see that the app now flashes up on the screen (briefly)when called from the command line.
For now I have to keep it that way as that was the reason for removing the check box 'Do not show rk-OSR while sync' checkbox. And curprit for all the problems you were facing.;)

But all the problems you reported does not happen on my device so its bit difficult to debug.

[feathers]

For now I have to keep it that way as that was the reason for removing the check box 'Do not show rk-OSR while sync' checkbox. And curprit for all the problems you were facing.;)

But all the problems you reported does not happen on my device so its bit difficult to debug.
Fair enough - fundamentally, it's now doing everything I originally wanted it to do (lucky me!) so any other improvements you make will be benefits over and above what I expected to get out of this.

I probably ought to mention that I'm about to go on holiday for a week (from tomorrow) so you won't hear a lot from me for a while after today/tomorrow morning.

[tytnguy]

There is still no automatic WiFi connection, however.


feathers, Before you go on vacation, if you have time please use the attached exe in place of rk-OSR.exe(make a backup of old exe first). Use the wifi only option. Run it see if it is able to make wifi connection.
If it doesn't then on the rk-OSR directory new debub file is updated. Can you just let me know the content of rk-OSR.debug

You can go back to old version then.
Thank you and you have a good vacation :)

[feathers]

Small problem...I'm not seeing a .debug file anywhere.

[tytnguy]

Small problem...I'm not seeing a .debug file anywhere.

It should be here \Program Files\rk-OSR\rk-OSR.debug
May be your file explorer not displaying that file.
If you have resco explorer there is a option to display hidden files
Try to get the file from your pc if possible

This file gets created only after you run the rk-OSR with Wifi Only option

If you are not able to do it that is fine when you get back we can debug

[tytnguy]

• Now rk-OSR performs the exchange active sync over the internet(Exchange Accounts only not desktop pc active sync)
• General issues with screen hang ups on some devices rectified
• The wi-fi card internally setup, no need for manual configuration
• Rectified issues with the command line execution

[tytnguy]

Indeed, sync with a exchange server on the internet. In Activesync, the lowest setting is every 4 hours, and you can't say "wifi only". Sometimes I noticed it feels the need for sending all my contacts (it shouldn't, but still), which takes about 1 MB. When GPRS is used, it eats away too much of my dataplan. Synchronizing quietly over over WiFi once a night would be perfect.

Andre Koster, your request full filled *I think*, Check the latest version

[feathers]

It should be here \Program Files\rk-OSR\rk-OSR.debug
May be your file explorer not displaying that file.
If you have resco explorer there is a option to display hidden files
Try to get the file from your pc if possible

No, nothing anywhere, even accessing the card via the PC. Sorry.

[Andre Koster]

Andre Koster, your request full filled *I think*, Check the latest version

*I think* as well you did! :) First test shows it nicely syncs. That calls for a donation. Thanks very much!!!

[tytnguy]

*I think* as well you did! :) First test shows it nicely syncs. That calls for a donation. Thanks very much!!!
Thanks for the update. Glad that it helped you :)

[Andre Koster]

That calls for a donation. Thanks very much!!!

It synced perfectly last night. Donation is in the mail. :)

[tytnguy]

It synced perfectly last night. Donation is in the mail. :)
Thank you Andre, appreciate it. :)

[SilverWings]

Thanks for this great program, it's exactly what I have been looking for!

The only problem I have is the fact that I don't hear any sound notification upon receiving new email.
I'm using Phoneweaver and I've set some alerts in there. I did hear sound notifications before I installed rk-OSR.
In rk-OSR I have checked "Sync silent" and "Sleep Device after Sync".

Any ideas on how to get those sound notifications working again?

[tytnguy]

Thanks for this great program, it's exactly what I have been looking for!

The only problem I have is the fact that I don't hear any sound notification upon receiving new email.
I'm using Phoneweaver and I've set some alerts in there. I did hear sound notifications before I installed rk-OSR.
In rk-OSR I have checked "Sync silent" and "Sleep Device after Sync".

Any ideas on how to get those sound notifications working again?

Yes SilverWings, Even I do not get any notification when I receive mail too. But the program is not doing anything to prevent the sound notification.
But I think it is something to do with the screen status at the time of mail receipt. i.e "The screen should be displaying today(or Outlook screen) while the message is downloaded" I am not sure what it should be for sure. Once i know what it is i can find a fix for it. In the meantime if you find out anything about it let me know. :)

[SypherNL]

Nice tool. Too bad it isn't working on my HTC S710 (yeah i know this is intented to be run from the Hermes). But i thought it would work because Windows Mobile is generic.

Any chance in getting it to work? Im getting a UnsupportedException at startup.

[tytnguy]

Nice tool. Too bad it isn't working on my HTC S710 (yeah i know this is intented to be run from the Hermes). But i thought it would work because Windows Mobile is generic.

Any chance in getting it to work? Im getting a UnsupportedException at startup.

HTC S 710 Is a smartphone and rk-OSR is developed for PDA version.
But anyway if there is any possiblity to port it to Smartphone version.(But not much hope :( )
If anything I will notify you :)

[feathers]

Thanks for this great program, it's exactly what I have been looking for!

The only problem I have is the fact that I don't hear any sound notification upon receiving new email.
I'm using Phoneweaver and I've set some alerts in there. I did hear sound notifications before I installed rk-OSR.
In rk-OSR I have checked "Sync silent" and "Sleep Device after Sync".

Any ideas on how to get those sound notifications working again?
I've checked the same two options and sound notifications work fine for me. I aven't set PhoneWeaver up to do anything special with sounds though, so maybe it's an incompatibility with PW somehow.

Bear in mind that as this software runs on Notifications, it is the standard alarm sound you'd hear and not the New Mail sound in any case.

[tytnguy]

Thanks for this great program, it's exactly what I have been looking for!

The only problem I have is the fact that I don't hear any sound notification upon receiving new email.
I'm using Phoneweaver and I've set some alerts in there. I did hear sound notifications before I installed rk-OSR.
In rk-OSR I have checked "Sync silent" and "Sleep Device after Sync".

Any ideas on how to get those sound notifications working again?

FYI: Next update will have the custom sound notification support!

[SilverWings]

FYI: Next update will have the custom sound notification support!

Wonderful! :)

[feathers]

FYI: Next update will have the custom sound notification support!
Goody, that will be great!

[tytnguy]

Just updated 1.0.8

Custom sound notification added. You can now specify a *.wav file to play when unread mail found. But system will wake up when there is a message notification.
I have also attached a wav file in case you are interested

[tytnguy]

Small problem...I'm not seeing a .debug file anywhere.

feathers,
The version 1.0.8 has a debug option on the wifi page.
Check the check box and perform a manual sync with option (wifi only)...Then see if the application generates a debug file on the application directory(\program files\rk-osr\)..Just send it to me
Thanks

[feathers]

Just updated 1.0.8

Custom sound notification added. You can now specify a *.wav file to play when unread mail found. But system will wake up when there is a message notification.
I have also attached a wav file in case you are interested
Thanks, it seems to work well.

I assume that this option is meant to be used instead of the 'Notify on unread email' option, even though both can be selected at the same time. (If you do leave both selected, it results in both the specified .wav file and the 'notification sound' being played at the same time, one on top of the other.)

Personally, I find the flashing LED of the notification useful and will miss this feature when the .wav file method is used. (I'm trying not to carry my device around the house with me at all times and the LED is a useful prompt if I miss the audio alert because I've put the device down.)

I guess I could achieve what I want by using a null Notification sound. rk-OSR will supply the audio, whil the notification will provide the visual!

Thanks for the hard work.

[Sane]

Seems to be a great little app... Thanks!

[Sane]

It would be a great feature if the app would turn of the GPRS connection after sync.

[tytnguy]

It would be a great feature if the app would turn of the GPRS connection after sync.
It will be nice to have that feature, but since keeping GPRS connection on does not mean you are actually consuming GPRS data...So i was thinking not needed. :)

[Sane]

Doesn't it drain more battery with gprs open?
I have unlimited data on my contract, so the benefit from closing the connection i was thinking was the battery life.

Im in assumption, that it would consume about 10-15% more battery with gprs open. I could be wrong and anyone can correct me.

Tested this now for the day and it really seems to be working nicely...

[tytnguy]

Doesn't it drain more battery with gprs open?

My thinking is it would consume the battery only when transferring data, but again I am not a GPRS user, so I may be wrong. Someone else can correct me. It it is not true let me know so that I can find some resolution that.

[Sane]

Well I asked a friend about this.

He said that if there is no traffic the connection goes idle after 180 seconds. If this is true, then the battery drain wouldn't be dramatically affected if you sync in every 30 or 60 min. If you sync every 5 or so minutes then the drain is considerably more…

Can somebody confirm this?

Edit: Not considerably more, just the 10-15% more than in normal gsm use.

[Sane]

Double post

[herzel]

I really like this idea of the program
but i think for some people (like me) it would be very helpfull if you can creat some type of tutorial.it would get a lot more people to use it.
thanks in advance

[tytnguy]

I really like this idea of the program
but i think for some people (like me) it would be very helpfull if you can creat some type of tutorial.it would get a lot more people to use it.
thanks in advance

Hi herzel I will be glad to help you,
Let me know following
1) What kind of internet connection you want to use.(Wi-Fi or GPRS)
2) How often you want to check the mail automatically in a day
3) What type of email accounts you have(Outlook Mail or Exchange Mail)

Also let me know if you are able to check your mail manually(with out using rk-OSR)

Let me know

[herzel]

i use 8525 wm6
1)i like to use gprs for the most part.
2)sync it when ever new item comes in.
3)outlook mail

[tytnguy]

i use 8525 wm6
1)i like to use gprs for the most part.
2)sync it when ever new item comes in.
3)outlook mail

What kind of data package you have? If you have unlimited packages then you do not need this tool at all, You can configure the pocket outlook to keep checking the mail or if your mail has 'direct push' then you would get your mail as it arrives.

On the other hand if you have limited data plan and want to keep the usage under control, you have to configure the rk-OSR to check the mail at schedules you create say for every two hours or so in 'Schedules' tab (but not as the items come in)

Since you also said that "i like to use gprs for the most part" I am assuming that you also want to use the wifi when ever it is possible, Then you have to use the option 'Wi-Fi or the default connection' in the 'Internet' tab.

Rest all other options you can configure based on your preference.

Hope this is useful, But let me know if there is any unknowns.

[herzel]

hi tytnguy.
i really think you should create a page that will explain all the option including
how to set a email acount(outlook) to work propely ,setup, ect........
you are very good on responding but that will save time and all the concern will be more to the point.
thanks.

[herzel]

did i ask for to much?
I really want to use this.

[tytnguy]

did i ask for to much?
I really want to use this.
:D
No herzel you were not, but I was not infront of my computer that's all :D

Have you setup your outlook accounts on the device and able to send receive your mail? Let me know that is the first step.

[herzel]

I need help to set up my outlook to send and recive

[herzel]

I got it to work through window live.

[herzel]

please guys help

[tytnguy]

please guys help

herzel, Sent you a PM

[Sane]

If you have unlimited packages then you do not need this tool at all, You can configure the pocket outlook to keep checking the mail

I must correct you sir on that.

I have unlimited plan and i think this program i a great tool for me. The battery life is my concern when using this phone. I use this program to sync every hour from 9am to 5pm, it would be great if the program could be set to do this on week days only ;) But anyway syncing after business hours and weekends is no use to me. + The sync now button is great for syncing all my 5 outlook accounts in one push of a button.

Dont underestimate your program, i think you have created a nice piece of software here.

[tytnguy]

I must correct you sir on that.
... Dont underestimate your program, i think you have created a nice piece of software here.
Thanks for that :)


... it would be great if the program could be set to do this on week days only ;)

Probably I should have check boxes if you want to sync only during weak days.
(Idea for next version!) ;)


... + The sync now button is great for syncing all my 5 outlook accounts in one push of a button.

That's my favorite feature. "One touch Sync"!

[tytnguy]

Some new idea for the people who want to sync up to happen ONLY at a particular location such as office or home etc (you need PDA with phone AKA WM5/6 Professional)
I just released my latest application called rk-LocSwitch which can execute command lines based on location you setup, so basically you could enable rk-OSR when you arrive at home/Office and disable when you leave the location automatically:cool: . So there are no more missed tries.
Check out the link rk-LocSwitch from my signature.

[Sane]

Probably I should have check boxes if you want to sync only during weak days.
(Idea for next version!) ;)



And close GPRS connection after sync ;) Just to be safe...

[tytnguy]

Now system automatically disconnects the GPRS/3G connections based on the new option after each sync operation
New options added to not to sync during Saturday and SundaysNote: I am not sure if this update disconnects the GPRS on any device, but works on my Hermes.

[Sane]

Had to drop you little sumthing on Paypal... I will instal this later today...

[tytnguy]

Had to drop you little sumthing on Paypal... I will instal this later today...
Thank you Sane,
Now that you paid me already I hope the new updates work on your device! :D
Thanks again

[zur.shahar]

I tried 2 setup the app but it gives every time when Iwant 2 save the changes an error "an error messege cannot bedisplyed because an optional resource assembly containing it cannot be found while save, pleaze report this error."

I've downloaded the latest 09 version, I have tytn wm5..

pleaze help me I want 2 work with it!

[Sane]

Ive been really busy today, but I quickly installed the new version and it seems to be working great on my TyTN! I did one Sync-Now, will test more tomorrow... 10+++++ Great app!!!!

[tytnguy]

I tried 2 setup the app but it gives every time when Iwant 2 save the changes an error "an error messege cannot bedisplyed because an optional resource assembly containing it cannot be found while save, pleaze report this error."

I've downloaded the latest 09 version, I have tytn wm5..

pleaze help me I want 2 work with it!

Since your device has WM5 I am suspecting you do not have compact framework 2.0 installed. So download the framework from here
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=AEA55F2F-07B5-4A8C-8A44-B4E1B196D5C0&displaylang=en

Then re-install rk-OSR and let me know what happens?

[zur.shahar]

I had .net but I re-install the program and i get the same error..

[tytnguy]

I had .net but I re-install the program and i get the same error..

Is that dotnet framework version 2.0 service pack 2(My link points to that one) ... See if its the same version installed on your device

[mattw951]

Hello, I have a question about the sync schedule...If I want to use your app to sync say every 10 mins then I would have to put that manully in the schedule tab? (example: 12:10, 12:20, 12:30 etc etc)

[Sane]

Hello, I have a question about the sync schedule...If I want to use your app to sync say every 10 mins then I would have to put that manully in the schedule tab? (example: 12:10, 12:20, 12:30 etc etc)

Yes........

[mattw951]

WOW Thats alot of work esp since Active Sync can easily do that for you...I would love to try this app but manually scheduling like that is way too labor intensive...I hope there are plans to add this feature in the next release...:(

[feathers]

WOW Thats alot of work esp since Active Sync can easily do that for you...I would love to try this app but manually scheduling like that is way too labor intensive...I hope there are plans to add this feature in the next release...:(

What feature? (You haven't requested one)

[tytnguy]

Hello, I have a question about the sync schedule...If I want to use your app to sync say every 10 mins then I would have to put that manully in the schedule tab? (example: 12:10, 12:20, 12:30 etc etc)
mattw951,
Yes you have to do it at the moment! :eek:
I know it's a pain if you want to do it for a full day!.
If you check the installed directory there is a file called rkOSR.cnf, See if you can edit it to put all your sync schedules on your desktop and transfer it back to device. But just a bit easy may be..

But as always It is an idea for next release :)

[mattw951]

TYTNGUY,

Thanks for the suggestion but I have one problem...I dont seem to have a rkOSR.conf file in the program directory the only files I have that start with rkOSR is the exe, the log file and one thats labeled as speed dialer... I thought that maybe that was the file you were talking about but when I copied it to the desktop there wasnt a way to edit it...Please help :)

[tytnguy]

TYTNGUY,

Thanks for the suggestion but I have one problem...I dont seem to have a rkOSR.conf file in the program directory the only files I have that start with rkOSR is the exe, the log file and one thats labeled as speed dialer... I thought that maybe that was the file you were talking about but when I copied it to the desktop there wasnt a way to edit it...Please help :)
Yes thats the file (one which says speed dial).
Copy it to desktop...
Open it with notepad
Add text as follows
<Schedule>10:00
<Schedule>10:10
<Schedule>10:20
<Schedule>10:30 ... etc

Save the file copy it over to device.

[mattw951]

Yes thats the file (one which says speed dial).
Copy it to desktop...
Open it with notepad
Add text as follows
<Schedule>10:00
<Schedule>10:10
<Schedule>10:20
<Schedule>10:30 ... etc

Save the file copy it over to device.


Thanks that made it easier...however I now have other issues.

1. The schedules dont seem to be working...the program isn't even trying to sync however if hit the test button everything works fine.

2. when I activate the rk-OSR Now all it does is take me to the options menu...isnt it suppose to sync?

I dont know that it matters but I am running WM6 on an 8525. Thanks for any help!

[tytnguy]

1. The schedules dont seem to be working...the program isn't even trying to sync however if hit the test button everything works fine.

The schedule time should be in military time such as 20:00(for 8:00 PM)


when I activate the rk-OSR Now all it does is take me to the options menu...isnt it suppose to sync?

You are supposed to edit the rk-OSR Now short cut... Details in the first post.

Since you have edited the settings from the back end...Launch rk-OSR application and click the Disable checkbox and then re-Enable it...
See now if it syncs up?

Let me know in any case

[Sane]

Im experiencing a small problem with the newest version. when I do a "sync now" Outlook logs in to the account, looks for changes and then disconnects before downloading the messages. I don't know if this problem happens also with the scheduled sync. I have to investigate on that.

Im running Touch I lite at the moment.

[tytnguy]

Im experiencing a small problem with the newest version. when I do a "sync now" Outlook logs in to the accountand looks for changes and then disconnects before downloading the messages. I don't know if this problem happens also with the scheduled sync. I have investigate on that.

Im running Touch I lite at the moment.

It is a known behavior of the app, rk-OSR can not actually know if the download is complete or not. So you need to have enough timeout period set to make sure all your emails are retrieved('Wait time to sync')

[Sane]

It is a known behavior of the app, rk-OSR can not actually know if the download is complete or not. So you need to have enough timeout period set to make sure all your emails are retrieved('Wait time to sync')

Thanks.. I thought it might have to do with the setting, but some how thought it wasn't.

[tytnguy]

Thanks.. I thought it might have to do with the setting, but some how thought it wasn't.
Actually I did lot of tries to get that sync status information programmatically but unsuccessful then I had to throw in that setting :)

[Sane]

I love this program... For real, this helps out so much...

I have no use syncing my accounts after business hours. If i would use the Outlooks sync it just would be a massive drain to the battery syncing my 5 accounts all the time. And sync-now button is really great also. Just great work i have to say again.

Maybe i have time on the weekend to test out the rk-Location Switch:D

[MetroKnight]

This app is awesome!!! This is exactly what I needed. My phone thinks I'm roaming all the time, and won't download my pop mail and only gets my exchange.

Now I have a sexy voice letting me know when I have personal mail.

Dude, you rock! :cool:

[Zeros]

Tytnguy, can you check something out for me? I have an Outlook emal account and an exchange server sync setup. If I choose to use the 'default only' connection everything works fine. If i set the connection to 'Wifi or Default' it will sync my Outlook email but then it disconnects the GRPS connection before it syncs the exchange, then it just gets stuck on syncing exchange. I do have the switch turned on to disconnect GPRS after sync. It looks to be disconnecting after the outlook sync and before the exchange sync. It needs to be set to disconnect after both have synced. Any ideas?

[tytnguy]

Tytnguy, can you check something out for me? I have an Outlook emal account and an exchange server sync setup. If I choose to use the 'default only' connection everything works fine. If i set the connection to 'Wifi or Default' it will sync my Outlook email but then it disconnects the GRPS connection before it syncs the exchange, then it just gets stuck on syncing exchange. I do have the switch turned on to disconnect GPRS after sync. It looks to be disconnecting after the outlook sync and before the exchange sync. It needs to be set to disconnect after both have synced. Any ideas?

Zeros,
That is strange... I re-checked my code and looks everything is alright. Probably you need longer time out. I am assuming that the timeout you specified is very short so, before the exchange sync is finishes the program disconnects the gprs??
Let me know

[Zeros]

Ok, so I decided to turn off the 'disconnect GPRS option' and test it. When I test it, it Sync's the outlook email fine, but still hangs on the Exchange Activesync. I opened activesync and can sync fine manually, but it does not seem like the program is envoking the enchance sync after doing the outlook sync. I even bumped both timers up to 100, the connection does not drop, but exchange doesnt sync. Do you have a way to test this on your phone? I have a personal email account setup in outlook and an exchange mail account setup as well.

[Zeros]

Alright, the test may be hanging, but i scheduled a live sync and it worked fine. Thanks again for a great program!

[tytnguy]

Alright, the test may be hanging, but i scheduled a live sync and it worked fine. Thanks again for a great program!
Glad that it worked :)

Does anyone else have simillar issue? i.e When outook as well as the exchange accounts both are set to sync, and the 'Test' hangs while syncing 'Exchange'?

[marttin]

Hi Tytnguy,

Just found your application yesterday, downloaded and playing with it now. It looks like an excelent utility. Give me couple of days and will report back my findings.

I have a quick question - in posts 76 and 77 you and Ixtana_ran have mentioned that as a side effect can get the HTC Home weather updated - how to do that?

Thank you

[tytnguy]

Hi Tytnguy,
I have a quick question - in posts 76 and 77 you and Ixtana_ran have mentioned that as a side effect can get the HTC Home weather updated - how to do that?
Thank you
Yes, that is... If you have htc home pluggin weather tab *displayed* on the today screen, whenever the rk-OSR connects to internet for sync ups gets updated with the weather.
This is not the rk-OSR feature but since rk-OSR connects to internet and the weather also gets updated.:rolleyes:
I always keep the weather tab displayed on today screen so that at any time I know when rk-OSR synced up last!(Based on weather panel feedback)

[marttin]

Yes, that is... If you have htc home pluggin weather tab *displayed* on the today screen, whenever the rk-OSR connects to internet for sync ups gets updated with the weather.
This is not the rk-OSR feature but since rk-OSR connects to internet and the weather also gets updated.:rolleyes:
I always keep the weather tab displayed on today screen so that at any time I know when rk-OSR synced up last!(Based on weather panel feedback)

Thanks for the info. I was thinking this is the case - I am using this method with SBSH PhW when getting SBSH Weather syncing eraly in the morning - as side effect HTC weather is updated too. Was just curious about other sollutions, more "scientific" ones :-)

I start playing with your program, and I am really impressed. I got some small problems:

- I got twice freezing of the device. First time just found the device freezed - cannot say anything about reasons. Second time, I guess, it was a conflict with PhW - at 23.00h was scheduled PhW to switch on WiFi and start SBSH Weather, as well was scheduled rk-OSR to check e-mails. As a result the device freezed.

- I am getting impression about some small issues with "Wait time to Sync" and "Connection Wait" - but not 100% sure yet. Need to play a bit more to find regularities and will report back, in about a day I guess.

Cheers

[tytnguy]

Thanks for the info. I was thinking this is the case - I am using this method with SBSH PhW when getting SBSH Weather syncing eraly in the morning - as side effect HTC weather is updated too. Was just curious about other sollutions, more "scientific" ones :-)

I start playing with your program, and I am really impressed. I got some small problems:

- I got twice freezing of the device. First time just found the device freezed - cannot say anything about reasons. Second time, I guess, it was a conflict with PhW - at 23.00h was scheduled PhW to switch on WiFi and start SBSH Weather, as well was scheduled rk-OSR to check e-mails. As a result the device freezed.

- I am getting impression about some small issues with "Wait time to Sync" and "Connection Wait" - but not 100% sure yet. Need to play a bit more to find regularities and will report back, in about a day I guess.

Cheers
Thanks marttin for the feedback,
Yes the freezing could happen if you try to start wifi card from two applications.

'Wait time to sync', you basically need to find out your optimal timing value based on trial and error method :)

'Connection wait', you could use longest time you think is ok, for eg if you specify the connection wait as 100 sec, and if the application connects to wifi access point in say 20 secs, then the app does not wait 100 secs(but just 20 sec) So its safe to keep bigger number here.

[marttin]

Thanks marttin for the feedback,
Yes the freezing could happen if you try to start wifi card from two applications.

'Wait time to sync', you basically need to find out your optimal timing value based on trial and error method :)

'Connection wait', you could use longest time you think is ok, for eg if you specify the connection wait as 100 sec, and if the application connects to wifi access point in say 20 secs, then the app does not wait 100 secs(but just 20 sec) So its safe to keep bigger number here.

OK, my first impression is I got some different behavior with "Wait time to Sync" and "Connection Wait"

Firstly, I configured "Connection Wait" to 30 secs - should be enough time to establish connection. "Wait time to Sync" was put on 100 secs - considering that my e-mail servers are slow to access from the place I am.

As a result the syncing time was very short - didnt use stopwatch but impression is that it was about 50-60 secs or less. I was testing with two accounts, the second account was able only to establish connection - and the rk-OSR was closing WiFi and Outlook.

Activation of Account Two was happening immediately after Account One finish

Secondly, I decide to put all values on 100 secs, and see.

In this case I had enough time to get two accounts synced. But, after Account One finish there was a certain time (maybe 10-20 secs) before Account Two syncing is activated.

I am wondering, having few accounts (3-5) and considering the "wait time" for actvating to the next account, will not give enough time to check them all

Finally, All the above is a first impression based on random play during small night hours :)

Will take my time to play, let say, more methodologicaly and give you detailed feedback later.

Cheers

[feathers]

- I got twice freezing of the device. First time just found the device freezed - cannot say anything about reasons. Second time, I guess, it was a conflict with PhW - at 23.00h was scheduled PhW to switch on WiFi and start SBSH Weather, as well was scheduled rk-OSR to check e-mails. As a result the device freezed.
I can't say if there's a conflict, but I've carefully scheduled PhW and rkOSR at different times on my device to avoid the possibility of this sort of issue.

[marttin]

I can't say if there's a conflict, but I've carefully scheduled PhW and rkOSR at different times on my device to avoid the possibility of this sort of issue.

Hi Feathers,

Technically speaking it is a conflict :) but this is not the point. My feeling is the application is close to perfect - thanks to Tytnguy and your great support.

For this particular, let call it issue, I do not think is required any improvement. Adding extra code will make the stuff "heavier" - and this is not good. Users knowing about it is more than enough - thanks! :)

What really bothers me is the behaviour of "Wait time to Sync" and "Connection Wait" - have you experienced similar behaviour on your device?

I will report my findings tomorrow/after tomorrow

Best

[tytnguy]

What really bothers me is the behaviour of "Wait time to Sync" and "Connection Wait" - have you experienced similar behaviour on your device?


marttin,
I checked my code and found a bug and because of this bug both the 'Connection Wait' and the 'Wait time to sync' were using the time out specified in the 'Wait time to sync' box...
I am fixing this issue...
Also adding better file explorer for 'Sound file location'

Will update in a day or so
:)

[marttin]

marttin,
I checked my code and found a bug and because of this bug both the 'Connection Wait' and the 'Wait time to sync' were using the time out specified in the 'Wait time to sync' box...
I am fixing this issue...
Also adding better file explorer for 'Sound file location'

Will update in a day or so
:)

Hi Tytnguy,

You are very kind. In this case I will not continue testing, but firstly wait for your next release.

Just a tip: At present the activation of e-mail accounts is based on alphabetical order - no option to configure which acc goes first. A solution is to change the names of the accounts as following: "1AccountOne", "2AccountTwo", etc. and this will schedule them in the order we would like ot see them :-)

Also, at present maximum time for downloading messages is 100s - will it be a big trouble to have possibility to enter any value we want with keyboard?

Thanks
PS: Did you check this (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334965) - very potential stuff, can give a new life to your Hermes :)

[tytnguy]

marttin and others :)


Just a tip: At present the activation of e-mail accounts is based on alphabetical order - no option to configure which acc goes first. A solution is to change the names of the accounts as following: "1AccountOne", "2AccountTwo", etc. and this will schedule them in the order we would like ot see them :-)

Do you really think the 'Order' of the email accounts important? Basically we all want to get all the unread email be downloaded right?


Also, at present maximum time for downloading messages is 100s - will it be a big trouble to have possibility to enter any value we want with keyboard?

Yep, I can allow big numbers

Also..
I am thinking of adding the LED blinking support to show unread mail... But here is the problem I am facing
Blinking start(ON) looks easy to do but to remove the blink after some time is bit problematic as rk-OSR closes after the sync operation there is no way to reset the blinking...So my suggestion is as follows...
If the rk-OSR doing a sync from 'Sleep' mode then blink the LED(based on the new setting in rk-OSR), but then keep the rk-OSR NOT closed untill you close it manually. And when you close the rk-OSR the blinking also will be reset(OFF). So basically till you switch the device ON and close rk-OSR the blinking is ON

Any feedback?

[marttin]

Do you really think the 'Order' of the email accounts important? Basically we all want to get all the unread email be downloaded right?



Well, I was considering it seriously based on 100s option. My wish was to "secure" syncing of my business accounts, and be happy if personal one is synced too as bonus :D


Yep, I can allow big numbers


That will be great


Also..
I am thinking of adding the LED blinking support to show unread mail... But here is the problem I am facing
Blinking start(ON) looks easy to do but to remove the blink after some time is bit problematic as rk-OSR closes after the sync operation there is no way to reset the blinking...So my suggestion is as follows...
If the rk-OSR doing a sync from 'Sleep' mode then blink the LED(based on the new setting in rk-OSR), but then keep the rk-OSR NOT closed untill you close it manually. And when you close the rk-OSR the blinking also will be reset(OFF). So basically till you switch the device ON and close rk-OSR the blinking is ON
Any feedback?

Well, I think the beauty of this application is keeping it simple.:)
I was not considering such an option, and do not see a real need of it - but this is based on the way I use my device, for others could be different.

My consideration is power consumption. I have scheduled two overnight activations: 23.30h and 6.25h. If dont check after 23.30h my device for e-mails the rk-OSR will be active and blinking all night. And on the top of that if haven't put the device to charge, could be critical for the next day use.

Cheers

[marttin]

Hi Tytnguy,

When AccountTwo starts syncing - after AccountOne is disconnected, or you are allocating same time for all accounts - e.g. 3 accounts - 33sec for each?

Thanks :-)
Best

[tytnguy]

Hi Tytnguy,

When AccountTwo starts syncing - after AccountOne is disconnected, or you are allocating same time for all accounts - e.g. 3 accounts - 33sec for each?

Thanks :-)
Best

Correct,
All accounts and the Exchange account gets the same wait period specified in Settings.

[marttin]

Correct,
All accounts and the Exchange account gets the same wait period specified in Settings.

OK, I see. My innitial impression was AccTwo starts after AccOne is disconnected "naturaly"
- That was the reason for thinking about "solutions" with nAccyy, but I see it is not the case

I guess option to use "big numbers" will be more than enough

Thanks :)

[tytnguy]

Ok new version is here..

Better file explorer to browse for *.wav file
Bug with the 'Wait time to sync' fixed:)

[marttin]

Ok new version is here..

Better file explorer to browse for *.wav file
Bug with the 'Wait time to sync' fixed:)

Hi Tytnguy,

Downloaded, installed and run a try. Looks like rk-OSR timing works well.
In case I find something "suspecious" will let you know

:) Cheers

[feathers]

I am thinking of adding the LED blinking support to show unread mail... But here is the problem I am facing
Blinking start(ON) looks easy to do but to remove the blink after some time is bit problematic as rk-OSR closes after the sync operation there is no way to reset the blinking...So my suggestion is as follows...
If the rk-OSR doing a sync from 'Sleep' mode then blink the LED(based on the new setting in rk-OSR), but then keep the rk-OSR NOT closed untill you close it manually. And when you close the rk-OSR the blinking also will be reset(OFF). So basically till you switch the device ON and close rk-OSR the blinking is ON

Any feedback?
Currently, I use the notification mechanism because I want the light to blink and that was the only way of getting it to do so. Thus, I effectively already have the functionality you describe.

Having said that, the ability for rk-OSR to drive the lamp itself would mean that I could use it to do that and make use of the dedicated 'mail audio alert' (which is what I really want) so this idea does have some value to me but I have some concerns.

My questions would be:

1. What is the impact of leaving the app running? I assume the device would be shut down as it is now (if set up in that way) but rk-OSR would still be 'open' when it was re-powered? Thus, this has no effect on battery life etc?

2. What happens if another event is raised that flashes the lamp? Would rk-OSR still kill the lamp on closure or would there be some confusion?

3. If rk-OSR is still 'open' would the next timed mail event still be able to occur on schedule?

4. If I use the password feature on my device, powering it results in the today screen being displayed. If the lamp were flashing in this state, nothing would be available to me to stop it doing so. I'd need to re-run rk-OSR to bring it to the screen and then close it?

5. As a completely different approach, is it not possible to somehow trigger the built-in 'New e-mail message' notification that the messaging app uses? That would provide sound, vision and textual alert facilities without rk-OSR having to do anthing programmatically. (I believe triggering the Send/Receive operation within the mail app, then minimising it would be enough to cause this to happen)

[tytnguy]

Currently, I use the notification mechanism because I want the light to blink and that was the only way of getting it to do so. Thus, I effectively already have the functionality you describe.

Having said that, the ability for rk-OSR to drive the lamp itself would mean that I could use it to do that and make use of the dedicated 'mail audio alert' (which is what I really want) so this idea does have some value to me but I have some concerns.

My questions would be:

1. What is the impact of leaving the app running? I assume the device would be shut down as it is now (if set up in that way) but rk-OSR would still be 'open' when it was re-powered? Thus, this has no effect on battery life etc?

2. What happens if another event is raised that flashes the lamp? Would rk-OSR still kill the lamp on closure or would there be some confusion?

3. If rk-OSR is still 'open' would the next timed mail event still be able to occur on schedule?

4. If I use the password feature on my device, powering it results in the today screen being displayed. If the lamp were flashing in this state, nothing would be available to me to stop it doing so. I'd need to re-run rk-OSR to bring it to the screen and then close it?

5. As a completely different approach, is it not possible to somehow trigger the built-in 'New e-mail message' notification that the messaging app uses? That would provide sound, vision and textual alert facilities without rk-OSR having to do anthing programmatically. (I believe triggering the Send/Receive operation within the mail app, then minimising it would be enough to cause this to happen)

Very thoughtful feedback feathers as usual!:)

Give me sometime; I will come up with some resolution. Bit tied up with my *actual* work:eek:

[feathers]

Very thoughtful feedback feathers as usual!:)
Ha! Don't count on it.
Give me sometime; I will come up with some resolution. Bit tied up with my *actual* work:eek:
I try and avoid that ;)

On the topic of updates, have you seen rk-OSR on a WVGA device? Is the attached image normal?

There is a similar problem with the Exchange sync box on the front screen.

[dovetech]

Hi,

This software is excellent ... works great and now in my top 5 essential PDA apps.

Just 2 quick questions … to sync my device via Wi-Fi at home or elsewhere I have to go to settings/connections/advanced/select networks then set “Programs that automatically connect to a private network should connect using:” to “My Work Network”. It will then Sync via the VPN network however in work when the device is in the cradle I set it to “My ISP” and then it will sync (does not work if set to “My work Network”).

Could you software (or another in your portfolio) auto switch this? At present if I don’t remember to manually switch it then the rk-OSR sync will not work.

2. The rk-OSR Now Icon just runs the application (it does not force a sync), it would be better if this acted like a press of the test button so you could force a single button sync.

Thank you for you labours … keep up the good work.

[feathers]

2. The rk-OSR Now Icon just runs the application (it does not force a sync), it would be better if this acted like a press of the test button so you could force a single button sync.
It sounds to me as if you haven't modified the 'rk-OSR Now.lnk' file as instructed in the first post of this thread.

[dovetech]

It sounds to me as if you haven't modified the 'rk-OSR Now.lnk' file as instructed in the first post of this thread.

Problem 2 solved - my stupidity – hopefully the solution to my 1st problem will be just as easy.

Many Thanks

[tytnguy]

Hi,

This software is excellent ... works great and now in my top 5 essential PDA apps.

Just 2 quick questions … to sync my device via Wi-Fi at home or elsewhere I have to go to settings/connections/advanced/select networks then set “Programs that automatically connect to a private network should connect using:” to “My Work Network”. It will then Sync via the VPN network however in work when the device is in the cradle I set it to “My ISP” and then it will sync (does not work if set to “My work Network”).

Thanks :)
At work, you use the gprs to connect to internet?

[dovetech]

Thanks :)
At work, you use the gprs to connect to internet?

No, it's an Axim X51v - I use standard internet via the USB cradle (and the desktop machine it's connected to).

It won't connect to the VPN when it's connected to the work network, if we had WIFI in the office it would have no problem syncing (but we don't)

[tytnguy]

No, it's an Axim X51v - I use standard internet via the USB cradle (and the desktop machine it's connected to).

It won't connect to the VPN when it's connected to the work network, if we had WIFI in the office it would have no problem syncing (but we don't)
Try this...
Keep your connection settings to 'My work network'
In rk-OSR keep the settings 'Wifi and Default'

In this case at office rk-OSR should try for wifi network first if not connected then should use your usb connection.
See if that works.

[dovetech]

Try this...
Keep your connection settings to 'My work network'
In rk-OSR keep the settings 'Wifi and Default'

In this case at office rk-OSR should try for wifi network first if not connected then should use your usb connection.
See if that works.

It works for all my POP accounts however when it come to the exchange account it says "VPN server problems" plus it then will not sync my contacts, calendar and tasks via activesync (it say sever cannot be reached).

I am pretty sure that it is due to the VPN (e.g. 84.89.104.116) not being accessible whilst on the work domain however you can connect when remote – just wondered if I could get the PDA to auto switch rather then me switching it twice a day (or if any one knows of an application that will do this).

[feathers]

I am pretty sure that it is due to the VPN (e.g. 84.89.104.116) not being accessible whilst on the work domain however you can connect when remote – just wondered if I could get the PDA to auto switch rather then me switching it twice a day (or if any one knows of an application that will do this).
PhoneWeaver from SBSH will do that for you, if that's the route you wish to take. It will only handle one VPN setup I believe, but as that's all you have it shouldn't be an issue for you.

Personally, I use that to start and stop rk-OSR functionality since I can only use it at home.

[dovetech]

PhoneWeaver from SBSH will do that for you, if that's the route you wish to take. It will only handle one VPN setup I believe, but as that's all you have it shouldn't be an issue for you.

Personally, I use that to start and stop rk-OSR functionality since I can only use it at home.

Tried PhoneWeaver (great little app) however this will only change "programs that automatically connect to the internet should connect using" not "programs that automatically connect to a private network should connect using" (both under network management) - it is the private network that I need to change to connect at both locations. Any more ideas/apps?

[jparkerln]

hello...having a hard time synching with my exchange server...anyone help me out? I can access it from the web through outlook web access. my company does not support private pdas, so, is there a way to synch with the info that i use to log onto outlook web access? this was the entire reason for buying the HTC mogul, and i'm going to be terribly upset if I can't.

[Sane]

Hey TyTnGuy, did you move to Kaiser? Im having some sync problems with RK-OSR and Kaiser. No matter what the settings are, it doesent seem to wake up or sync silently when Kaiser is sleeping. Is anyone else experiencing this?

[tytnguy]

Hey TyTnGuy, did you move to Kaiser? Im having some sync problems with RK-OSR and Kaiser. No matter what the settings are, it doesent seem to wake up or sync silently when Kaiser is sleeping. Is anyone else experiencing this?
hmm... I do not have Kaiser to test it out. Looks like Kaiser does not recognize the wake up commands. Have you tried the option 'Wake up while sync' option?

[Sane]

I tested it more today and yes, the problem seems to be that RK-OSR cant wake the Kaiser up. If the "sync only if device is sleeping" is activated Kaiser wont sync at all. If that is not activated, it starts to make the scheduled sync the next time I wake up the device. This is quite annoying considering every time I wake the device up im about to do something with it, and its starts to sync all my accounts.

[Sane]

Well this issue seems to a known problem in Kaiser pop email account syncing. There's a topic about it in the Kaiser section.

Sorry, it seems it has nothing to do with RK-OSR...

[marttin]

Hi Tytnguy,

Hope you are well. I was using rk-OSR, virtually with no any issues, for some time.
Couple of days ago I did hardreset my device and installed all applications anew, including rk-OSR. On the surface everything was well until the moment I decided to configure rk-OSR. Every time I try to save the changes I am getting following message:

"InvalidCastException While Save, Please Report this error"

Well, the above is the report.

BTW, after the hardreset I also installed rk-Sleep, I never used it before but decided to test the application. Firstly I got the above message trying to configure rk-Sleep, but decided not to bother, and later got the same on rk-OSR.

I have tryed uninstall/install rk-OSR and rk-Sleep -- the same

rk-OSR version I am running is: 1.0.10.26199

Cheers

[Sane]

My problem seems to be solved. The topic can be found in the Kaiser section: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=332362&page=13

[tytnguy]

Hi Tytnguy,

Hope you are well. I was using rk-OSR, virtually with no any issues, for some time.
Couple of days ago I did hardreset my device and installed all applications anew, including rk-OSR. On the surface everything was well until the moment I decided to configure rk-OSR. Every time I try to save the changes I am getting following message:

"InvalidCastException While Save, Please Report this error"

Well, the above is the report.

BTW, after the hardreset I also installed rk-Sleep, I never used it before but decided to test the application. Firstly I got the above message trying to configure rk-Sleep, but decided not to bother, and later got the same on rk-OSR.

I have tryed uninstall/install rk-OSR and rk-Sleep -- the same

rk-OSR version I am running is: 1.0.10.26199

Cheers

Hi marttin,
Check the date format of your device, mostly this error occurs when you have some unrecognizable date format. True for both the applications rk-Sleep and rk-OSR.

Let me know if that is the issue.
:)

[tytnguy]

My problem seems to be solved. The topic can be found in the Kaiser section: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=332362&page=13

Hi Sane,
Sorry I could not respond to you earlier, been tied up with work :D .
But glad to know that your issue is fixed and nothing to do with rk-OSR
But thanks for the feedback.

[marttin]

Hi marttin,
Check the date format of your device, mostly this error occurs when you have some unrecognizable date format. True for both the applications rk-Sleep and rk-OSR.

Let me know if that is the issue.
:)

Hi Tytnguy,

Thanks for your feedback. Yes, the problem was the date format. I have changed previously date separator from "/" into " " (space). Moved to using "-" and saving is just fine with both applications.

Thanks :)

[klsortem]

I downloaded the program and think its great, but at the current time its just not for me and I'm trying to uninstall it. When I do as your first post mentions though, use remove programs and delete the program folder, I get the following error when I soft-reset the device "cannot open program /blah/rk-osr.exe", and the phone (AT&T 8525 WM6) begins to run slow.

So I thought to myself if I reinstall it and just disable the program in options, that'll fix the error/slowness problem. That seems to have worked, but I'm curious if there's a step in the uninstallation that I've missed. I would prefer to completely remove the program to free up the memory if possible with just leaving it disabled as a workaround I can almost live with if need be.

Thanks

[tytnguy]

I downloaded the program and think its great, but at the current time its just not for me and I'm trying to uninstall it. When I do as your first post mentions though, use remove programs and delete the program folder, I get the following error when I soft-reset the device "cannot open program /blah/rk-osr.exe", and the phone (AT&T 8525 WM6) begins to run slow.

So I thought to myself if I reinstall it and just disable the program in options, that'll fix the error/slowness problem. That seems to have worked, but I'm curious if there's a step in the uninstallation that I've missed. I would prefer to completely remove the program to free up the memory if possible with just leaving it disabled as a workaround I can almost live with if need be.

Thanks
Try this...
Disable rk-OSR and exit rk-OSR program..
Now uninstall rk-OSR from 'Remove Programs'
Delete the rk-OSR folder

Thanks

[klsortem]

Try this...
Disable rk-OSR and exit rk-OSR program..
Now uninstall rk-OSR from 'Remove Programs'
Delete the rk-OSR folder

Thanks

That did it, thanks!

[graemelisa]

Hi Tytnguy,

Works perfect on my Artemis (XDA Orbit) - as it is so good should you 'list' it in another forum? - development and hacking???

I use it to check my emails while at home on WiFi - I find that 'push/as emails arrive' doesn't always work as it should (gprs seems fine! - I have also noticed that 'push' works better on WiFi after I have run your program once!) - so only use manual - therefore I make the following comments (Not criticism's!)

Should you 'ship' your 'now' shortcut with 'now' in it? - as more people use the program I can see regular support questions on it 'not' working
Why do you need to enter at least one sync time to save settings? I only want to start it manually - (I will hard button the now shortcut or start it with a phone profile in a 3rd party software[PA])
Could it to run in Stealth mode? ie run in the background or all windows minimized (I receive today screen plugin notifications of emails)
To solve time problems (more support questions!), could you set it to close after the last sync is finished?
Could you have a drop down box 'Sync every xx minutes after program enabled' with a drop down box for xx having options (eg) 5,10,15 20, 30, 45, 60?? (In time I may do this with mortscript!)
Is it an issue that you restart WiFi even when it is already on? I believe if WiFi is started via the driver (ie not through Comm manager) that you do not have power usage management - ie it drains the battery MUCH quicker. Therefore if you start WiFi by driver when it has already been started in Comm manager do we lose power management? UPDATE this can be solved by using Default connection - this also stops it turning WiFi off when it finishes
Could you add another command line switch to see info on last Sync (time/success etc) - screen popup

Please don't take any of these comments as anything other than feedback - it is a great little program!

[graemelisa]

This Script waits 1 minute initially (gives time for WiFi etc to start) - each time it then checks to see if the today screen is visible - ie I didn't want this to run if I was doing something else (unless it could run in the background!!) - It will then run 'Sync Now' every 10 minutes (edit the number 600000 - 300000 = 5 mins, 1200000 for 20 etc) for 5 hours (edit the mscr from 30 - up to lengthen, down to reduce)
It will also try and minimize the opened windows - doesn't work perfectly - I use a Run 'Show Today' exe which works better, but removed this from the code as you may not have it.

Obviously you must have mortscript for this to work. I do not need it but you could set the script to run (for eg) only if WiFi is on - or run only if you are connected to a particular WiFi network.

[opilion]

This is just the sort of thing I'm looking for. I like the feature which automatically turns on WiFi, syncs then turns off WiFi. One question though... Can the sync be set to run every time I turn on my device or resume from standby? I want to be able to turn the device on and within a few seconds see if I have any new emails.

[tytnguy]

This is just the sort of thing I'm looking for. I like the feature which automatically turns on WiFi, syncs then turns off WiFi. One question though... Can the sync be set to run every time I turn on my device or resume from standby? I want to be able to turn the device on and within a few seconds see if I have any new emails.

opilion,
The sync every time system resumes from standby is not practical, as that would be simply annoyance that pda tries to check email every time device gets a wake up(such as incoming phone call, SMS, calendar notification etc).

But you could configure one of the hardware buttons to 'rk-OSR Now' link so that you can check mail on demand.

[tytnguy]

Hi Tytnguy,

Works perfect on my Artemis (XDA Orbit) - as it is so good should you 'list' it in another forum? - development and hacking???

I use it to check my emails while at home on WiFi - I find that 'push/as emails arrive' doesn't always work as it should (gprs seems fine! - I have also noticed that 'push' works better on WiFi after I have run your program once!) - so only use manual - therefore I make the following comments (Not criticism's!)

Should you 'ship' your 'now' shortcut with 'now' in it? - as more people use the program I can see regular support questions on it 'not' working
Why do you need to enter at least one sync time to save settings? I only want to start it manually - (I will hard button the now shortcut or start it with a phone profile in a 3rd party software[PA])
Could it to run in Stealth mode? ie run in the background or all windows minimized (I receive today screen plugin notifications of emails)
To solve time problems (more support questions!), could you set it to close after the last sync is finished?
Could you have a drop down box 'Sync every xx minutes after program enabled' with a drop down box for xx having options (eg) 5,10,15 20, 30, 45, 60?? (In time I may do this with mortscript!)
Is it an issue that you restart WiFi even when it is already on? I believe if WiFi is started via the driver (ie not through Comm manager) that you do not have power usage management - ie it drains the battery MUCH quicker. Therefore if you start WiFi by driver when it has already been started in Comm manager do we lose power management? UPDATE this can be solved by using Default connection - this also stops it turning WiFi off when it finishes
Could you add another command line switch to see info on last Sync (time/success etc) - screen popup

Please don't take any of these comments as anything other than feedback - it is a great little program!

Thanks graemelisa for very important suggestions and feedback!
Due to my very hectic work schedule not able to spare time on this project. But probablly soon I will make up sometime to work on some of the features you have indicated above.

[sd619]

I've never edited a shortcut in WM6 before, so I would like some information on how to make this change:

"\Program Files\rk-OSR\rk-OSR.exe" Now ---> Checks the mail manually

I have installed the rk-OSR in my storage card, so the location is:

"\Storage Card\"\Program Files\rk-OSR\rk-OSR.exe"

How do I use the command line to add the Now text at the end of the address? I don't know how to get to a command line in WM6.

[tytnguy]

I've never edited a shortcut in WM6 before, so I would like some information on how to make this change:

"\Program Files\rk-OSR\rk-OSR.exe" Now ---> Checks the mail manually

I have installed the rk-OSR in my storage card, so the location is:

"\Storage Card\"\Program Files\rk-OSR\rk-OSR.exe"

How do I use the command line to add the Now text at the end of the address? I don't know how to get to a command line in WM6.

When you have installed rk-OSR it would add a shortcut called 'rk-OSR Now'
But you have to first edit the above link as follows...
You need use resco explorer or any other file explorer(not the default microsoft file explorer)
Go to the folder \Windows\Start Menu\Programs\
Locate the link rk-OSR Now and go to the properties
Change the target from
"\Storage Card\Program Files\rk-OSR\rk-OSR.exe"
->>
"\Storage Card\Program Files\rk-OSR\rk-OSR.exe Now"
Note just you are adding 'Now' at the end.

so now you should be able to perform the manuall sync using the link 'rk-OSR Now' link.
You can also assign this link to hardware button.

If you are still not able to get it working here is the link(zipped), unzip and copy it to \Windows\Start Menu\Programs\ on your device

[bulmer]

Hey Tytnguy, I am having problems syncing my Outlook email accounts over my wifi network, using AS 4.5 and an axim x51v running Footballs WM6 rom.It says..."Found network.......Internet connection found......Synchronizing Outlook email accounts.....Finished Synchronization....Successfully Finished." but the whole thing from beginning to end is only ever about 1 or 2 seconds long, and it doesn't sync at all. I am pretty sure that the very first time I tested the settings that it worked once, but not since.:(
I've tried changing "wait time to sync" settings and have installed the latest version. Any ideas? Its a real shame because this is the programme i've been looking for!

[tytnguy]

Hey Tytnguy, I am having problems syncing my Outlook email accounts over my wifi network, using AS 4.5 and an axim x51v running Footballs WM6 rom.It says..."Found network.......Internet connection found......Synchronizing Outlook email accounts.....Finished Synchronization....Successfully Finished." but the whole thing from beginning to end is only ever about 1 or 2 seconds long, and it doesn't sync at all. I am pretty sure that the very first time I tested the settings that it worked once, but not since.:(
I've tried changing "wait time to sync" settings and have installed the latest version. Any ideas? Its a real shame because this is the programme i've been looking for!
Not sure if that's going to help you... But have you checked atleast one email account in the account list page?

[dapperyout]

Hey TyTynGuy,

This is exactly what I was looking for, unfortunately I get the error message "NotSupportedException While Launch" when I run the rkOSR executable.

I'm using a Sprint Moto Q9C with WM6 and version 1.0.10 of the rkOSR. Should your program work on this platform? If not, do you have any plans to make it work for WM6 Smartphone? If not, do you know anywhere I can tweak my my settings so that email connects by Wifi only.

Thanks in advance for your reply, Happy New Year!

Dwayne

[bulmer]

Not sure if that's going to help you... But have you checked atleast one email account in the account list page?
There aren't any accounts listed in the big box but I have the "Outlook email accounts" box checked. Is that enough, or am I supposed to have the individual accounts listed ? if so, how do I go about that? Thanks

[marttin]

There aren't any accounts listed in the big box but I have the "Outlook email accounts" box checked. Is that enough, or am I supposed to have the individual accounts listed ? if so, how do I go about that? Thanks

Should first create your e-mail account - from today menu got to Messaging>New E-mail Account

Then you will have individual accounts listed, and must check those you want to sync with rk-osr, and of course manage other settings too.

the application works really good :)

[bulmer]

Should first create your e-mail account - from today menu got to Messaging>New E-mail Account

Then you will have individual accounts listed, and must check those you want to sync with rk-osr, and of course manage other settings too.

the application works really good :)
Thanks Marttin, that worked well. It connects directly to my email server on the internet and checks the mail for the account I set up. There is one problem for me though and that is that I wanted to synchronise with my Outlook email folder (on my PC- which is connected to this wifi network) and although i've checked the box in rk-osr it doesn't do that.Is there something I have to do to the Outlook settings on my PC to eable that to happen? Share a folder or something?

[marttin]

There is one problem for me though and that is that I wanted to synchronise with my Outlook email folder (on my PC- which is connected to this wifi network) and although i've checked the box in rk-osr it doesn't do that.Is there something I have to do to the Outlook settings on my PC to eable that to happen? Share a folder or something?

Glad to be in help :-)

To best of my knowldge rk-osr is not designed to sync directly with pc over wifi.

I never used syncing over wifi, and honestly I am not knowledgeable enough on this issue to answer or direct you on this question. There is a thread with application which could offer you solution - chek here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=341398)

[tytnguy]

Hey TyTynGuy,

This is exactly what I was looking for, unfortunately I get the error message "NotSupportedException While Launch" when I run the rkOSR executable.

I'm using a Sprint Moto Q9C with WM6 and version 1.0.10 of the rkOSR. Should your program work on this platform? If not, do you have any plans to make it work for WM6 Smartphone? If not, do you know anywhere I can tweak my my settings so that email connects by Wifi only.

Thanks in advance for your reply, Happy New Year!

Dwayne
Dwayne, Sorry the app is NOT for smartphones.
Since I do not have a smartphone its almost impossible to think about designing something.
Sorry about it

[bananastalktome]

Love this program. 1.0.10 works on my Verizon powered Samsung SCH-i760 running WM6, just FYI. As a request, it would be nice to be able to set synch to a "every X minutes" setting rather than specific times. Even better, but I'm sure more difficult, would be to select to synch every X minutes between certain hours only and also specific times.
Lemme explain the rationale.
While I am home, I am always on wifi and would like to check email every 10 minutes. When I leave my apartment to go to campus, I can only check email at times I know I will be in WIFI lecture halls.

Other than that, keep up the wonderful work.

[bulmer]

Glad to be in help :-)

To best of my knowldge rk-osr is not designed to sync directly with pc over wifi.

I never used syncing over wifi, and honestly I am not knowledgeable enough on this issue to answer or direct you on this question. There is a thread with application which could offer you solution - chek here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=341398)

Thanks again Marttin for your help and thanks to Tytnguy for such a great application. The way its worked out for me I don't need to sync Outlook with my PC because when I check the same POP accounts directly with my pda they are actually left on the server until they are downloaded with the PC! I thought that only happened with IMAP4 !?

[marttin]

The way its worked out for me I don't need to sync Outlook with my PC because when I check the same POP accounts directly with my pda they are actually left on the server until they are downloaded with the PC! I thought that only happened with IMAP4 !?

It works with POP accounts depending on how you configure your e-mail client. In my case, I use TB on the PC - not Outlook, the configuration keeps e-mails on the server for three days after first download - only then "new" e-mails are erased from the server. This gives me the chance my PC to be online and download e-mails on its own, and the same time to be able to get e-mails, using rk-OSR, when not at home or office

[teva]

Is it possible to add check box for not disconnecting from wlan after sync finished?

tnx

[kankli]

Hi, this is a great piece of software, so convenient !!

1) It works OK for me (kaiser); but I have an IMAP account that seem to have problems: when powering on I can see the hourglass running over rk-OSR log tab, like if it never finishes

2) I'm also a developer; are you planning any source code release, so other can post patches?

3) It's not clear to me what 'Wait time to sync' does. You cannot check when all mail download is finished? Can't you monitor the connection to the server, and disconnect when the connection is closed? It's very difficult to know when someone will send you a 12MB attachment, which will block any further email downloads because every time downloading the attachment will take longer than the 'Wait time to sync'. Is there any solution/workaround?

4) as graemelisa suggested in a previous post, I'd add a feature to allow ifi connection only to certain ssid

Thanks again for this great utility ! I'll be donatig soon...

[tytnguy]

Hi Guys,
I have just released my latest utility called rk-SMS Switch (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=379440). With this application you could set up a 'Push LIKE mail' support along with rk-OSR. i.e. rk-OSR should be able to sync ONLY when you have new mail. :D

Basically if your device gets the SMS notification on ‘New mail’ from your email service. rk-SMS Switch intercepts the SMS and based on the SMS sender and/or message text executes the command line for 'rk-OSR Now' to synchronize the emails.

Required:

You are using rk-OSR to sync your emails.
Your device could receive the SMS notification on new mail message.Uses:

Push LIKE mail
Not wasting bandwidth for keep checking the server at regular intervals.This is just an idea and initial version. Let me know if you guys like it.
Please follow the link rk-SMS Switch (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=379440) for more info/download.

[heyted]

I tested it more today and yes, the problem seems to be that RK-OSR cant wake the Kaiser up. If the "sync only if device is sleeping" is activated Kaiser wont sync at all. If that is not activated, it starts to make the scheduled sync the next time I wake up the device. This is quite annoying considering every time I wake the device up im about to do something with it, and its starts to sync all my accounts.

I tried RK-OSR on my wm5 htc universal, and I am having the same problem that sane described, but the palarmtweak fix did not solve the problem. It appears that no matter how high the time setting is set, the universal does not wake up.:( RK-OSR works fine when the universal is awake. I sure wish I could have this app on my universal.:confused:

[Trashman]

Im using this one and its working like a charm, tho i have 2 suggestions, think about them:

1- im not expert on programing but im pretty sure that you can include the "corrected" rk-osr-now in the cab directly and make it install on the /windows/start menu/programs folder...or maybe a more polished solution to install on the %installfolder% and then make the program move it or just leave it there to be used by any1...or maybe a more nasty one that is to make it install to the %installfolder% and make the cab installer create a second .lnk pointing to the "corrected" one...im pretty sure that im not the first asking the moronic question of "why isnt my rk-osr-now link working?" because we didnt read every final word on the first post the first time...
2- i left the device in my poket hapily working with this program on my poket...and i left to do my duties, im not all the time on my desk or on my house...but during the day allmost on any schedule time i got the sound warning that the device found a new network...there should be a way to disable temporarily the "found new network" sound while there is a scheduled sync...i mean "temporarily" because its good to have the sound when you actually turn on the wifi manually to download something or check a site while you are on a new network site as example...if thats not an option then there should be a way to disable the sound warning permanently within the rk-osr menu...

So resuming:
1-include the corrected rk-osr-now in the cab somehow
2-add an option to temporarily or permanently disable the "found new network" sound notify during a schedule

And btw...thank you very much for this nice soft...you are doing a great job...and sorry my bad english...

PS: im using a hermes (herm100), it works perfect on this one...
PS2: im thinking on another suggestion, for some of us is way simpler to set a schedule like a "every 15 mins between 7 and 12", maybe you can find a way to add that way of scheduling without the need to enter every timer by hand (just in that example timing i have to set 20 timers by hand)

[tytnguy]

I tried RK-OSR on my wm5 htc universal, and I am having the same problem that sane described, but the palarmtweak fix did not solve the problem. It appears that no matter how high the time setting is set, the universal does not wake up.:( RK-OSR works fine when the universal is awake. I sure wish I could have this app on my universal.:confused:

heyted,
One of the user had sent me a hint to fix simillar issue.


[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\Power\Timeouts]
"BattResumingSuspendTimeout"=dword:0000000f
"ACResumingSuspendTimeout"=dword:0000000f

I am not sure it will fix it but try it and report.

Thanks

[heyted]

heyted,
One of the user had sent me a hint to fix simillar issue.


[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\Power\Timeouts]
"BattResumingSuspendTimeout"=dword:0000000f
"ACResumingSuspendTimeout"=dword:0000000f

I am not sure it will fix it but try it and report.

Thanks

Thanks. I tried setting the two values to 0000000f, but they showed up as 0X00000F. I think this is the same??? The vaules did not allow the uni to wake. :(

I noticed if I set an alarm time to coincide with the rk_OSR time, it works. :) This is not a good work around though since I need the delete the notifications.:confused:

[mimpoca]

I truly love this piece of software. Finally, my XV6800 is able to check email while it's asleep.
However, I have one huge fafor to ask. Can an option be added to have the mail syncronized in background, or windowless, or whatever is easiest?
I check my email every 5 minutes and it is a little annoying having the sync window pop in my face while doing something different.
If that could be done, this application would be perfect and I would be more than happy to make a donation.

[mimpoca]

Bump ... is this application dead?

[techtest]

Hi, I downloaded the application and I think it is great! :) But the app will not wake up my HTC Touch Cruise. When my phone is sleeping, the application will not wake it to sync. And I can imagine that that is one of the main features... Am I doing something wrong? A setting maybe?

[heyted]

I tried RK-OSR on my wm5 htc universal, and I am having the same problem that sane described, but the palarmtweak fix did not solve the problem. It appears that no matter how high the time setting is set, the universal does not wake up.:( RK-OSR works fine when the universal is awake. I sure wish I could have this app on my universal.:confused:

rk-OSR works perfect on the HTC Universal with the latest official ROM (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=332071). Thank you so much for this great app.:D

[tytnguy]

rk-OSR works perfect on the HTC Universal with the latest official ROM (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=332071). Thank you so much for this great app.:D

Thanks heyted for the usefull info.
I have noted its been working on Hermes with any ROM, but on other devices as you said the specific ROM might be the reason why its (Not)working. :)

[ezechiel1917]

hi, thanks for this great app, exactly what i was looking for, but for some reason custom sound for unread mail doesn't work here and notify on unread mails use reminders, which have repeat by default and if I turn repeats off I won't be getting them on appointments, tasks where it is actually useful. Any chance of using different type of notification or any idea how to get custom sound for notification working?

[tytnguy]

...which have repeat by default and if I turn repeats off I won't be getting them on appointments, tasks where it is actually useful.
What do you mean by 'repeat'? are you referring to system notifications?

... Any chance of using different type of notification or any idea how to get custom sound for notification working?
In the rk-OSR options tab, set the notification sound file(*.wav), also Un-Check the option 'Notify on unread mail'.(Also the disable any notifications from System\Sounds And notifications for emails)
This should bring up the sound notification on unread mail.

[techtest]

The application OSR worked perfectly! Very happy with it. But... yesterday I installed rk-Sleep and rk-OSR doesn't work anymore. Sleep turns off my phone at night as expected, but while it is on, rk-OSR will not get my mail anymore... :confused: Is this a known problem? I don't want to choose between the two apps... Please let me know! Thank you!

[techtest]

I tried RK-OSR on my wm5 htc universal, and I am having the same problem that sane described, but the palarmtweak fix did not solve the problem. It appears that no matter how high the time setting is set, the universal does not wake up.:( RK-OSR works fine when the universal is awake. I sure wish I could have this app on my universal.:confused:

I had the same problem... I got a ROM update (maybe that helped...), but also I installed OSR on the device, instead of on the storage card. Now it works like a charm. The only problem I still have is that it is not working together with rk-Sleep. Very strange. I had to uninstall rk-Sleep to make it work again. Too bad!

[tytnguy]

The application OSR worked perfectly! Very happy with it. But... yesterday I installed rk-Sleep and rk-OSR doesn't work anymore. Sleep turns off my phone at night as expected, but while it is on, rk-OSR will not get my mail anymore... :confused: Is this a known problem? I don't want to choose between the two apps... Please let me know! Thank you!

I had the same problem... I got a ROM update (maybe that helped...), but also I installed OSR on the device, instead of on the storage card. Now it works like a charm. The only problem I still have is that it is not working together with rk-Sleep. Very strange. I had to uninstall rk-Sleep to make it work again. Too bad!

Sorry guys for the late reply...

It's really strange that rk-OSR and rk-Sleep not working together...

Please check if in rk-Sleep sleep time is interfering with the rk-OSR auto sync timings? Set both applications such way that they are not overlapping each other?

Also may be when rk-OSR tries to check the emails(using gprs), your phone is switched off by rk-Sleep?(just a thought)

[techtest]

Hi, thanks for the reply. The answer to your questions is no. They are not interfering with each other. I sync my mail every hour until 22:00. After 22:00 I try to set the phone to flight mode. Flight mode worked fine, but sync of mails didn't work anymore. Very strange. Uninstall of sleep will not solve the problem... Still no sync of mails with OSR. I don't get it anymore. Uninstall OSR and install again didn't solve the problem. I am lost... :confused:

[tytnguy]

Hi, thanks for the reply. The answer to your questions is no. They are not interfering with each other. I sync my mail every hour until 22:00. After 22:00 I try to set the phone to flight mode. Flight mode worked fine, but sync of mails didn't work anymore. Very strange. Uninstall of sleep will not solve the problem... Still no sync of mails with OSR. I don't get it anymore. Uninstall OSR and install again didn't solve the problem. I am lost... :confused:
Hmm... I am confused too.
Try this... launch rk-OSR, first disable the rk-osr and save the settings, then enable and re-save the settings, now check if rk-OSR syncs on schedule?

[krystian13]

Hi

I tried to run the application on Samsung SGH-i600 with WM6.0. Unfortunatly I get "NotSupportedException while launch" error.

I suppose the error is not too informative but do you know what could be the reason?

The SGH-i600 has a 240x320 screen that is not touch sensitive.

[tytnguy]

Hi

I tried to run the application on Samsung SGH-i600 with WM6.0. Unfortunatly I get "NotSupportedException while launch" error.

I suppose the error is not too informative but do you know what could be the reason?

The SGH-i600 has a 240x320 screen that is not touch sensitive.
SGH-i600 is a smart phone and not supported. Sorry

[Magus]

Hello! (sorry my inglish) I found this error using the program (i like so much the app is very ussefull)
My pocketpc is Htc Diamond with WM6.1

http://img168.imagevenue.com/loc958/th_00560_err_122_958lo.jpg (http://img168.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=00560_err_122_958lo.jpg)


Thanks a lot!

[tytnguy]

Hello! (sorry my inglish) I found this error using the program (i like so much the app is very ussefull)
My pocketpc is Htc Diamond with WM6.1

http://img168.imagevenue.com/loc958/th_00560_err_122_958lo.jpg (http://img168.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=00560_err_122_958lo.jpg)


Thanks a lot!

Are you able to Sync your mail using pocket outlook's Send Receive function manually?

[Magus]

Thanks for your answer, I dont know what happend, but now works perfect.

Yes, i could sync my mails accounts using pocket outlook.

the reason may be my SIM Card is run out the space?

Again, thanks for your help!

[andreatozzi]

your app is great, but i don't know why after the auto-switching off gprs/3g sometimes the gprs/3g connection starts again (i don't have any other software or HTC weather who needs internet connection).

[tytnguy]

your app is great, but i don't know why after the auto-switching off gprs/3g sometimes the gprs/3g connection starts again (i don't have any other software or HTC weather who needs internet connection).
Yes HTC weather connects to net to get the updates periodically. Check the settings if it is set to update automatically

[SoisFranc8]

Thanks for this application. I use it to manually check all my emails accounts at once after connecting to the currently available Wifi network. It works like a charm!

Is there any way to have the whole process run in background, i.e., not having rk-OSR nor Outlook windows having focus. Maybe a parameter "silent" could be added to the command line (after now).

I saw several posts in this thread suggesting the same feature, any chance of having it implemented?

[jiade]

Hi,
I like the program very much. Thanks!
I have a Samsung I907 running WM 6.1 and on a 320x320 square screen. I can only see 2/3 of pages you displayed in the screen shot (there is no side scroll bar). As a result there are a few options I can't enable.
One time when I am in a phone conversation, the program starts to run and disconnects the phone call.
I also would like to see the feature of have intervals (5, 10, 15 minutes) instead of adding preset times (too much typing, sorry). But I can live with that.

[cyberpunk627]

I agree with jiade!! it just needs predefinded interval times (hard to set each sync time if you nedd your email checked every 10min or so!!!), maybe a bit more polished interface and it's perfect!! works like a charm!!

[tytnguy]

I agree with jiade!! it just needs predefinded interval times (hard to set each sync time if you nedd your email checked every 10min or so!!!), maybe a bit more polished interface and it's perfect!! works like a charm!!

But... if added a logic to sync every 10 mins... doesn't it looks like just the built in function on pocket outlook(where you coud set pocket outlook to sync every 10 mins)

May be a change in the way or logic to add these intervals might need a change... Such as add a interface where you could generate these intervals(check e mails between 10 AM to 5 PM for evey 10 mins)

Let me know.. Now a days not getting too much time to update the application :)

[leegoon84]

But... if added a logic to sync every 10 mins... doesn't it looks like just the built in function on pocket outlook(where you coud set pocket outlook to sync every 10 mins)

May be a change in the way or logic to add these intervals might need a change... Such as add a interface where you could generate these intervals(check e mails between 10 AM to 5 PM for evey 10 mins)

Let me know.. Now a days not getting too much time to update the application :)

no becasue default automatic send/receive setting will always use gprs to sync.

[nurps]

is it possible that your program manually checks for mails in background, without poping up outlook or log screens?