CID Unlock ?

[palmbeer]

possible ?

[pof]

possible ?

Probably yes, but we don't have kaiser yet to know it.
You know where can I buy one?

[jameshuang]

Hi pof,
As title. Let me know if you want to get one. I am more than happy to assist you to get one from Taiwan. :)
Regards,
James

[stesa]

Hi pof,
As title. Let me know if you want to get one. I am more than happy to assist you to get one from Taiwan. :)
Regards,
James


can you tell us more about thx :)

it's dopod brand or what ?

[palmbeer]

No idea where you can buy one at the moment.
All i know otherwise is that it's known as the HTC P4550...

[xxnoelziexx]

Ebay is your best bet at the moment.

[stesa]

Ebay is your best bet at the moment.


it seem you are tyred of your two kaiser..... :P

but i've seen you don't send in italy..... :P and let me tell....your price really isn't popular :=)

[xxnoelziexx]

Me tired of two kaisers? I have had around 20 Kaisers so far, I currently use one as my main phone :-) Well price is right if you want one now HTC have just pushed the date back for these now. So it is looking like October release now so I guess most people will be waiting even longer now and some lucky people will not have too :-)

[stesa]

pre-order now at expansys

http://www.expansys.com/p.aspx?i=151713

may be it's here in august too :-)

and may be it's going to have TouchFlo :D

http://www.expansys.com/video.aspx?id=261&i=151713

[Ayle]

You're selling Kaisers? When you say the price is right? what kind of range are you talking about?

[Hewlit]

Me tired of two kaisers? I have had around 20 Kaisers so far, I currently use one as my main phone :-) Well price is right if you want one now HTC have just pushed the date back for these now. So it is looking like October release now so I guess most people will be waiting even longer now and some lucky people will not have too :-)

what do you do for a living?
do you work for HTC? are you a beta tester of those products?
god, i envy you :D !
you are so lucky!!!

i would like to buy one, but unfortunatley i am out of money, so ... no kaiser for me. i will wait for the release date and for the price to dropp.

[Syrius_B]

Back on topic with this..

Seeing that the Kaiser is now officially released (to some places..)

Has anyone happened to work on a CID unlocker?


Cheers,


Syrius

[DomZ]

I would like to know if we can CID unlock this phone too ?

[pof]

i'm working on it :)

[zaharakis]

i'm working on it :)


just ....respect to you my friend :)

[KarmaNP]

I'll be the first ones to get the Tilt and would like to use it with T-mobile. So desperately look forward to the success of your project.

[zaharakis]

i'm working on it :)

and we are ready to donate to you after you are finished ;)

we looking forword for your final resault:)

[Syrius_B]

and we are ready to donate to you after you are finished ;)

we looking forword for your final resault:)

cheers pof!

yes we are :) :)


syrius

[pierrohhh]

can u do a sim unlock at the same time as cid

u can count on my donation as well. :D i love this site

[B0MBACI]

Why there isnt any free cid unlock programme for the htc p4350

[zaharakis]

Why there isnt any free cid unlock programme for the htc p4350

because and the free programmes someone must try hard to make them...so we have to donate to developers ho spent their free time, to give as for free the solutions ;)

[a-h-t1]

because and the free programmes someone must try hard to make them...so we have to donate to developers ho spent their free time, to give as for free the solutions ;)

Amen brother

[austinsnyc]

With the AT-T TilT coming out in a few days I have a feeling this is going to start being a very very very busy thread hopefully lots of new ROM's and apps will be coming out soon for this phone.

[duttythroy]

:eek: With the AT-T TilT coming out in a few days I have a feeling this is going to start being a very very very busy thread hopefully lots of new ROM's and apps will be coming out soon for this phone.

are you joining us soon as well?

[austinsnyc]

If AT-T dosent drop the ball which i heard they just did and delayed the launch of the kaiser to who knows when. I am trying to find one for sale her in NYC that is in a sealed Box as i dont want any used phone. But back to the to point yes i will be joining the new peeps as soon as i get my mits on one of these babys! Tell me is it alot faster than the Hermes?

[aublumberg]

Tell me is it alot faster than the Hermes?

Oh yes it definitely is ... much more snappier ..

[HTCFAN0923]

If AT-T dosent drop the ball which i heard they just did and delayed the launch of the kaiser to who knows when. I am trying to find one for sale her in NYC that is in a sealed Box as i dont want any used phone. But back to the to point yes i will be joining the new peeps as soon as i get my mits on one of these babys! Tell me is it alot faster than the Hermes?

Try Mobile City Online. They're located in Tribeca and have the Kaiser. I'm starting my new job wit ATT Oct. 1st so As soon as I can..I'll get the kaiser...I'd rather have the HTC version this time around. Makes more sense for me.

[austinsnyc]

Try Mobile City Online. They're located in Tribeca and have the Kaiser. I'm starting my new job wit ATT Oct. 1st so As soon as I can..I'll get the kaiser...I'd rather have the HTC version this time around. Makes more sense for me.

Thank you for the INFO as soon as I read your post i went and bought the Kaiser from the store you mentioned!! Nice place i also have to add.. SO i will now be an active member of the Kaiser forum and helping the ROM cooking and such anyway i can!!!

[duttythroy]

Thank you for the INFO as soon as I read your post i went and bought the Kaiser from the store you mentioned!! Nice place i also have to add.. SO i will now be an active member of the Kaiser forum and helping the ROM cooking and such anyway i can!!!

welcome to your new home. I have dumped the latest wm6 kaiser rom from this forum and so tempted to create a custom rom. but to be fair the wm6 rom on kaiser is very stable apart from the internet bug.

[austinsnyc]

well mine is still sitting in the box untill i have time to play later tonight. Can you guys fill me in on the known bugs that we are having now? I have heard BT and you just mentioned IE whats the bug with IE?

[RemE]

IE slows to a crawl and hangs when scrolling down long pages using TouchFlo. People are using Opera Mini for now as it's smoother. There's debate at to what's the cause, possibly Touch-Flo.

[austinsnyc]

IE slows to a crawl and hangs when scrolling down long pages using TouchFlo. People are using Opera Mini for now as it's smoother. There's debate at to what's the cause, possibly Touch-Flo.

I have noticed if you let the page load all the way before scrolling this does not happen atleast on my Kaiser. I dont use the touchflow to much though.

[Entropy512]

because and the free programmes someone must try hard to make them...so we have to donate to developers ho spent their free time, to give as for free the solutions ;)

Are there even any locked Kaisers available? To my knowledge the only ones out so far are unlocked/unbranded.

Hard to break a locking scheme when no phones are locked?

(Or are HTC-branded devices SIM-unlocked but CID-locked to prevent ROM flexibility?)

[pof]

(Or are HTC-branded devices SIM-unlocked but CID-locked to prevent ROM flexibility?)

sim-unlocked but cid-locked.

[austinsnyc]

sim-unlocked but cid-locked.

So what are the main differences you have seen so far pof between the Kaiser and the hermes as far as CID-unlocking goes? Do you think we are going have a harder time unlocking this and making Hard-SPL's than you did for the hermes?

[pof]

So what are the main differences you have seen so far pof between the Kaiser and the hermes as far as CID-unlocking goes? Do you think we are going have a harder time unlocking this and making Hard-SPL's than you did for the hermes?

kaiser has no standalone IPL, the hardware initialization routines are embedded in the SPL. This made things a bit easier because we don't have to patch the IPL here to skip reading the SPL from NAND. On the other side, kaiser has two CPU cores (400MHz ARM11 used for OS and 274MHz ARM9 used for Radio), when we jump to a patched SPL placed in RAM the radio core is not properly restarted, and the SPL detects it and soft-resets the device, thus loading the SPL from nand instead of the one placed in RAM. This was a bit confusing at the beginning, until the reset routine was found, because it made me think the SPL was read from NAND and I was attempting to patch the wrong routine.

After skipping the reset routine, the SPL loads successfully and patching it to skip signature checking is just the same as Des did in Hermes & Trinity. The radio however is not responsive because hardware is not properly initialized when the SPL is loaded from RAM, and that's where I am now. Will try to fix it if I can, otherwise I will release a SSPL-like utility which will serve just as a bootloader to flash a patched SPL in NAND, thus having a working radio again after reset.

As a demonstration that it works, see attached photo (SPL string modified)... for the final release please wait a bit, until I am happy with the solution and have tested all the patches :)

As for SIM-unlocking, with kaiser will be much harder than with previous devices, because the radio has now its own RSA signature, checked by the radio bootloader and you can't flash a patched radio on it, see output from usb monitor when trying to flash a modified radio on kaiser:


002262: Bulk or Interrupt Transfer (UP), 25.09.2007 22:16:09.3748848 +0.7110224
Pipe Handle: 0x827625d4 (Endpoint Address: 0x82)
Get 0x10 bytes from the device:
72 73 61 20 76 65 72 69 66 79 20 66 61 69 6C 20 rsa verify fail


Funny, eh? :rolleyes:

[zaharakis]

kaiser has no standalone IPL, the hardware initialization routines are embedded in the SPL. This made things a bit easier because we don't have to patch the IPL here to skip reading the SPL from NAND. On the other side, kaiser has two CPU cores (400MHz ARM11 used for OS and 274MHz ARM9 used for Radio), when we jump to a patched SPL placed in RAM the radio core is not properly restarted, and the SPL detects it and soft-resets the device, thus loading the SPL from nand instead of the one placed in RAM. This was a bit confusing at the beginning, until the reset routine was found, because it made me think the SPL was read from NAND and I was attempting to patch the wrong routine.

After skipping the reset routine, the SPL loads successfully and patching it to skip signature checking is just the same as Des did in Hermes & Trinity. The radio however is not responsive because hardware is not properly initialized when the SPL is loaded from RAM, and that's where I am now. Will try to fix it if I can, otherwise I will release a SSPL-like utility which will serve just as a bootloader to flash a patched SPL in NAND, thus having a working radio again after reset.

As a demonstration that it works, see attached photo (SPL string modified)... for the final release please wait a bit, until I am happy with the solution and have tested all the patches :)

As for SIM-unlocking, with kaiser will be much harder than with previous devices, because the radio has now its own RSA signature, checked by the radio bootloader and you can't flash a patched radio on it, see output from usb monitor when trying to flash a modified radio on kaiser:


002262: Bulk or Interrupt Transfer (UP), 25.09.2007 22:16:09.3748848 +0.7110224
Pipe Handle: 0x827625d4 (Endpoint Address: 0x82)
Get 0x10 bytes from the device:
72 73 61 20 76 65 72 69 66 79 20 66 61 69 6C 20 rsa verify fail


Funny, eh? :rolleyes:


pof you are the best ;)

so we still waiting for finishing your work,but i think this time, i have to donate you before your final result to encourage you :D

[panosha]

I 'm addicted to red !!! :p

[austinsnyc]

pof i must say you are amazing when it comes to HTC devices! i cant thank you enough for the work youn have put into not only the hermes forum but now the Kaiser forum! I would like to offer an help i can give be it testing your alpha things or doing some coding! thank you!
Kaiser Cooking Here We Come!!

1.77.777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777 77777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777 7

[ziddey]

yikes. guess this means i might have to stick with att a while longer even if i buy the phone loose so i qualify for the 3 month unlock or whatever they do now.

[mcq3000]

sweet! hopefully we can soon have lite roms of the htc rom without all the junk and extra programs we don't need, I cant wait :D

[duttythroy]

I will making some lite roms if I can do it:rolleyes:

[ultimate]

my Kaiser's SPL is 1.56.0000

[Wiz]

my Kaiser's SPL is 1.56.0000

Same SPL here

[Wiz]

002262: Bulk or Interrupt Transfer (UP), 25.09.2007 22:16:09.3748848 +0.7110224
Pipe Handle: 0x827625d4 (Endpoint Address: 0x82)
Get 0x10 bytes from the device:
72 73 61 20 76 65 72 69 66 79 20 66 61 69 6C 20 rsa verify fail




Demonstrates that HTC are also conscious of the XDA-Devs activities in the field of patching and cooking, and are looking at new ways to prevent their devices from being modified. Notably around the flashing of radio stacks, they may be contractually obliged to protect their devices from running not-approved radio stacks by the various telecom providers.

[mrpotts]

Wow,
I'm a marine engineer and I'm feeling pretty dumb reading your guys words. Amazing efforts. I am downloading the ROM now to keep as a backup. What else can a novice do with the official ROM (besides don't F*%$ with it :o )

Cheers,
Phl

[Syrius_B]

Same SPL here

ooo ooo! i got SPL 0.92.0000 :(

and its CID-locked.. siigh!


- Syrius

[pof]

ooo ooo! i got SPL 0.92.0000 :(

Care to dump it and attach it here?

pmemdump.exe (http://nah6.com/~itsme/itsutilsbin-20070705.zip) 0x8c000000 262144 SPL.nb

Thanks :)

[Syrius_B]

Care to dump it and attach it here?

pmemdump.exe (http://nah6.com/~itsme/itsutilsbin-20070705.zip) 0x8c000000 262144 SPL.nb

Thanks :)

Here it is, Damn Application-Locked Phone... :mad:

Any chance of an beta unlocker ;) ;) (ROM is so old!)

(remove .cab!)

Cheers

- Syrius

[rvdgeer]

@pof:

I hope a different SPL gives you a new angle...

What I don't quite understand yet is:
When you (or someone else) finds a way to CID-unlock the Kaiser, the next step would be to create a RUU, right?
Is that an easy step once you know how to CID-unlock (or patch the SPL)?

I would love to see and test the first custom Kaiser ROM with 3D cube...
Not because I need it, but just because I can...
:)

[pof]

@Syrius_B: Thanks mate :)

@rvdgeer: I like those "old" SPL's because they don't have the reset routine present on newer SPLs which hang the device.

Once the CID unlocker is released you can use PkgTool + BuildOS + ImgfsTools + htcrt to cook your own rom.

I could release it now but most of you'll not be happy with it's user-friendliness, patience is the greatest of all virtues :rolleyes:

[duttythroy]

@Syrius_B: Thanks mate :)

@rvdgeer: I like those "old" SPL's because they don't have the reset routine present on newer SPLs which hang the device.

Once the CID unlocker is released you can use PkgTool + BuildOS + ImgfsTools + htcrt to cook your own rom.

I could release it now but most of you'll not be happy with it's user-friendliness, patience is the greatest of all virtues :rolleyes:

I cant wait wait, waiting patiently:rolleyes:

[rvdgeer]

@rvdgeer: I like those "old" SPL's because they don't have the reset routine present on newer SPLs which hang the device.

I already hoped a different SPL would help!
But I'm really glad to hear it doesn't have the reset routine, cause I know this was causing troubles...

I could release it now but most of you'll not be happy with it's user-friendliness, patience is the greatest of all virtues :rolleyes:

Wise words! :)
I know I have to be patient, but it's hard ;)
At the same time I realise you're absolutely right:
We don't want a buggy product, so we'll wait...

[austinsnyc]

@Syrius_B: Thanks mate :)

@rvdgeer: I like those "old" SPL's because they don't have the reset routine present on newer SPLs which hang the device.

Once the CID unlocker is released you can use PkgTool + BuildOS + ImgfsTools + htcrt to cook your own rom.

I could release it now but most of you'll not be happy with it's user-friendliness, patience is the greatest of all virtues :rolleyes:

Pof could you release to those of us that cook are own ROM's that way we can get started on testing and cooking please I hope I have a nice present in my PM's lol..
Also can you explain the process for dumping and cooking is it the same as Hermes as far as using Taz's tools to dump the ROM. Lets say for Hermes I would put C:/xda/NBSplit -hermes OS.nb and start the whole dumping and rebuilding process, what would the command line be for the Kaiser?
Last question as far as extracting radio's from ROM's once we have a user friendly CID-unlocker can we use the Hermes Custom_RUU wrapper to wrap ROM's and Radio's or is it going to have to be a complete new wrapper?

[austinsnyc]

Hey Pof,
Any updates in the world of CID_Unlocking for Kaiser? Did you find any new things in the new SPL that was posted the other day? I am eondering why they came out with a different SPL so soon when it seems that almost all Kaisers have the SPL in my SIG

[pof]

CID unlocker will be published later this week i hope... with a nice surprise ;)

Regarding Kaiser SPL versions, almost one different on each ROM... rom 1.56 comes with SPL-1.56, rom 1.50 comes with SPL-1.50, rom 1.81 comes with SPL-1.81, etc... but not any major differences between them.

[duttythroy]

CID unlocker will be published later this week i hope... with a nice surprise ;)

Regarding Kaiser SPL versions, almost one different on each ROM... rom 1.56 comes with SPL-1.56, rom 1.50 comes with SPL-1.50, rom 1.81 comes with SPL-1.81, etc... but not any major differences between them.

HARDSPL:rolleyes: :D :eek:

[rabbit1234]

CID unlocker will be published later this week i hope... with a nice surprise ;)


That would be great stuff! Getting my Vario 3 with a dutch OS tomorrow and I hate those $&*^$ non english ones. Will unlock and flash a WWE rom immediately. If this works you will see a donation for sure!

[jcespi2005]

CID unlocker will be published later this week i hope... with a nice surprise ;)



Many thanks for your effort.... i'm waiting for my Kaiser this week, so seems it's going to be so funny like my hermes experience :)

Thanks again, and congratulations....

[zaharakis]

That would be great stuff! Getting my Vario 3 with a dutch OS tomorrow and I hate those $&*^$ non english ones. Will unlock and flash a WWE rom immediately. If this works you will see a donation for sure!
my opinion is that donations must be all the time even only for the try;)

is a big encourage to keep the developers (like pof ) making stuff for the people;)

[Frontline]

Hi, just to confirm, will the update be able to unlock the mobile to other providers? I've currently got a Vario 3 sitting redundant on my desk :(

[swamp2]

my opinion is that donations must be all the time even only for the try;)

is a big encourage to keep the developers (like pof ) making stuff for the people;)

I agree with that. I am now just getting active here again. I was active a lot back when I was excited about my pda2k. Now I am in line to get an 8925 ASAP and want to put my best foot forward so I am making a donation now as I know this will be my BEST resource once I have the new "beast". A+ on the efforts pof, et. al.

[austinsnyc]

Pof is there any other way to donate beside paypal? I think we should all give something back to you for making such great tools and sharing the results for free it shows that you are a good person and that counts for so much in this world!

[rabbit1234]

my opinion is that donations must be all the time even only for the try;)

is a big encourage to keep the developers (like pof ) making stuff for the people;)

When a developer is in it for the money he would charge for it don't you think?

Making a donation is a choice not a must. It's my choice when and if I will make a donation!

[rvdgeer]

Making a donation is a choice not a must. It's my choice when and if I will make a donation!

Exactly!
I totally agree...

But it's not a crime to encourage people to make a donation....
Especially when it's not the the person receiving the donation who's encouraging you...

I don't have a paypal account and have no intention getting one...
Not credit card either...
Everything I buy online I buy with iDeal (online banking)...
So online donating is a little hard to do for me...


CID unlocker will be published later this week i hope... with a nice surprise ;)

Wooooooooooohooooooo!
Yess!
:D

[duttythroy]

I think people like olipro,pof mamaich and the others who have developed greattttt software and breakthrough which enable our phones to be used as guinea pigs, inorder to flashing roms countless of times and knowing that our devices are bullet proof 99% of the time and not getting bricked deserved all of our:rolleyes: donations wether they asked or not.:)

[h4gg!s]

If someone could explain to me how to dump the rom I would happily do so for my model.

[Doug2873]

pof I plan on getting a 8925 from ATT tomorrow and I will (hopefully) be able to get a subsidy unlock code from them since I have been with ATT/Cingular for about 7 years (sad, I know). If I entrusted my IMEI and unlock code to you, POF, would that help you with developing the SIM unlock for others who have a locked 8925?

[pof]

@Doug2873: Thanks but that won't help :(

[rabbit1234]

[QUOTE=pof;1554381]CID unlocker will be published later this week i hope... with a nice surprise ;)
QUOTE]

How's it going with (almost) our CID Unlock tool:).

[athena1973]

[QUOTE=pof;1554381]CID unlocker will be published later this week i hope... with a nice surprise ;)
QUOTE]

How's it going with (almost) our CID Unlock tool:).


Superman Pof...we are looking for you...come on our hero... :)

[jeffreycentex]

I think it is close...

See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334667 for info on JumpSPL...

Good work pof!!

[pof]

I think it is close...

You where right, SSPL (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334678), HardSPL (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334679) & JumpSPL (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334667) released!

Enjoy them and let the fun begin! ;)

[weinson]

You where right, SSPL (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334678), HardSPL (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334679) & JumpSPL (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334667) released!

Enjoy them and let the fun begin! ;)

Awesome! Thanks. Do you want to explain to folks why to use SSPL or HardSPL (pro and cons of each) if they plan to flash ROMS (so you don't have to explain it so many times)

[Syrius_B]

You where right, SSPL (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334678), HardSPL (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334679) & JumpSPL (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334667) released!

Enjoy them and let the fun begin! ;)

Thanks pof!

Excellent work!

Unlocked and upgrading ROM as we speak! :D :D

- Syrius