Public Apologies to Olipro

[mariner]

It happened what I feared...the purpose of my 3d was completely misunderstood ( maybe because I'm not mothertongue English?).

I have absolutely nothing against Olipro , infact when I wrote he might have been the "culprit" I wrote culprit between " "...

I think he is a great guy even if I don't know him in the flesh and I completely trust him , proof is that I flashed his boot loader myself too...

I was just trying to understand which common points are there between all of us experiencing the SOD and I thought, from the very little that I know , that this could have been a possibility but if you read my 3d you'll find that I'm doing also other considerations so , in my opinion , closing it so quickly wasn't after all a good idea.

But this is life , Olipro is correctly consider a guru inside here and I'm nothing so i can understand all this reaction to protect him even if my intentions have been over looked because as I already wrote it was not my will to offend him or his job which is always great. I just wanted to break the discussion concerning the SOD which is always rotating around the same things and possible culprits and in this way we haven't reached very much so far...

I'm confident that Olipro didn't get upset after my message, I don't see a reason why others should do.

Regards all and thanks for the flame!:)

[mariner]

Uh!...by the way, To answer to Bram87 I also did flash the new official WM6release from HTC but it didn't solve the issue I'm afraid.

[unwired4]

SO you are adding some third party applications...?

[gerald_s]

Man, you are obstinate.....
FYI: I'm using Olipros Bootloader since some months and I flashed at about 15 Roms and I never had a SOD.

Conclusion: Olipro ist NOT causing SOD'S.

[Bram87]

Uh!...by the way, To answer to Bram87 I also did flash the new official WM6release from HTC but it didn't solve the issue I'm afraid.

hmm..strange. I downloaded this HTC wm6 rom http://www.megaupload.com/nl/?d=IASNVPS7

well good luck..

[mariner]

Oh yes, many of them... the same third party apps that I installed soon after I bought the tytn and didn't give me the SOD , including Wisbar and SPB software including mobile shell...

[unwired4]

Oh yes, many of them... the same third party apps that I installed soon after I bought the tytn and didn't give me the SOD , including Wisbar and SPB software including mobile shell...


Then you really should read up on your problem.

Most of the sleep of death issues have been identified as caused by third party apps.

Sounds to me like you are either using an application that simply isnt compatible with WM6 or you haven't downloaded the latest versions (SPB particularly, you need the latest updates).

[gerald_s]

When you bought your device it came with WM5. Most of the apps are designed for WM5 and some of them are causing troubles with WM6.

If you want to check out which apps are causing troubles flash a rom and run it without any app for some days. Then start to install one app after the other and test every app carefully.

As I told you above: I never had a SOD even though I've installed Olipros bootloader

[mariner]

hmm..strange. I downloaded this HTC wm6 rom http://www.megaupload.com/nl/?d=IASNVPS7

well good luck..

I got mine from here

http://rapidshare.com/files/40593234/HTC_WM6_Official.rar.html

[mariner]

When you bought your device it came with WM5. Most of the apps are designed for WM5 and some of them are causing troubles with WM6.

If you want to check out which apps are causing troubles flash a rom and run it without any app for some days. Then start to install one app after the other and test every app carefully.

As I told you above: I never had a SOD even though I've installed Olipros bootloader

I'm glad to find that Olipro bootloader didn't ease the SOD thing...

I already did the kind of troubleshooting you suggested me without being able to isolate the problem.

My SOD started with WM5 and I decided to upgrade to WM6 for this reason but now it's back again!!!

[mariner]

Then you really should read up on your problem.

Most of the sleep of death issues have been identified as caused by third party apps.

Sounds to me like you are either using an application that simply isnt compatible with WM6 or you haven't downloaded the latest versions (SPB particularly, you need the latest updates).

Now I don't have any SPB software acting in the background installed and I had the latest SOD one hour ago... Wisbar still onboard but auto start disabled and not running at the moment...

[mariner]

Man, you are obstinate.....
FYI: I'm using Olipros Bootloader since some months and I flashed at about 15 Roms and I never had a SOD.

Conclusion: Olipro ist NOT causing SOD'S.

Thanks for sharing your experience with me...

[mariner]

hmm..strange. I downloaded this HTC wm6 rom http://www.megaupload.com/nl/?d=IASNVPS7

well good luck..

I just downloaded the file...It's a different one from the other that I got out of Rapidshare...I will decide in the next days after testing some more the one that I have now... In case I need to flash the dopod one, do I need to remap the keyboard as I remember to have read somewhere or it's just flash it/use it? If yes can you point me out where to get directions or if short can you post how you did?
Regards

[smads]

Thanks for sharing your experience with me...

I thought it had been agreed that SOD was caused by the messenging app (mail) set to check mail regularly. I had SOD when this was set and also when I had it checking an exchange account (Mail2web).

I check mail manualy now and my tytn has been extremely stable. I have not had SOD for months.

using LVSW 19-5-07 (elf edition)

[njmarchetti]

Looks like the Toshiba G900 is having sleep of death issues too. (http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2007/07/14/first-batch-of-toshiba-g900s-plagued-with-issues/) So, I think it is pretty safe to that Olipro is not the cause of the SOD. Hopefully someone can nail down the real cause of SOD soon as it seems to be a widespread issue that doesn't seem to have any rhyme or reason.

[ChaoticDruid]

I thought it had been agreed that SOD was caused by the messenging app (mail) set to check mail regularly. I had SOD when this was set and also when I had it checking an exchange account (Mail2web).

I check mail manualy now and my tytn has been extremely stable. I have not had SOD for months.

using LVSW 19-5-07 (elf edition)

Personally, my ollllld SOD issues were SD card related, exchange with retrieving items as they arrive has worked flawlessly for months now, I dont think there is one determining factor for the SOD's.

Since I see this thread is about Olipro, where is he nowdays, I never see him on the board, but then again I dont visit the other sections much.

[compudds]

One thing I noticed and it could be a coincidence...my SOD went away after I got rid of (unchecked) encryption. Just a thought...

[ronfin44]

I had a few SOD's back on Black 1.2 and I believe that was a Storage Card/apps issue. With Black Majik, I've never had a SOD and I run the same apps in the same manner I did from 1.2 with a few minor exceptions. One, I got rid of WAD. As great as it looks, it slows the device down and was a constant SR issue. Most of my main apps that need to constantly run I have stored to the device and NOT the storage card, so that too may be a hint as to why the SOD may occur. Do I think we'll ever narrow it down to a specific thing? No, cause I beleive many different things can cause it, and as all of our devices are unique, then it's up to each of us to work-out the SOD issue on our own with some of these threads as advice. I'm happy with my setup now and the SOD is a non issue.

[fun_key]

The HTC Rom branded as pre-release (OS Build 1238 so far i remember) is known to have SOD.

Just avoid this rom and flash to another.

[mariner]

The HTC Rom branded as pre-release (OS Build 1238 so far i remember) is known to have SOD.

Just avoid this rom and flash to another.

Thanks for the hint, I will give the dopod one a try...or do you have anyone better to suggest???

[mariner]

I thought it had been agreed that SOD was caused by the messenging app (mail) set to check mail regularly. I had SOD when this was set and also when I had it checking an exchange account (Mail2web).

I check mail manualy now and my tytn has been extremely stable. I have not had SOD for months.

using LVSW 19-5-07 (elf edition)

I never had that options selected just because I don't have flat data thereafter I don't have to push email...

[gerald_s]

Thanks for the hint, I will give the dopod one a try...or do you have anyone better to suggest???

Wait some days, Schaps and Jasjamm (and for sure some others too) are going to release new Roms on the base of the official Dopod Rom.

Of course you can create your own Rom using the Pandora Kitchen, its also based on the Dopod Rom.

[mariner]

Wait some days, Schaps and Jasjamm (and for sure some others too) are going to release new Roms on the base of the official Dopod Rom.

Of course you can create your own Rom using the Pandora Kitchen, its also based on the Dopod Rom.

Thanks for the suggestion...I don't have enough time to learn creating my own roms...I will give pandora kitchen a try even because I can't flash the dopod one one the Tytn...( Ruu crashes)

[Bram87]

I think the point of this thread has been cleared/set. So why not close it