PDANet tethering charges?

[Soaknfused]

Just wondering, has anyone on Sprint who is using any form of tethering been able to confirm and charges for use with or without a PAM plan? I have tried ICS and PDANet and both work perfectly, PDANet claims to be "under the radar" to Sprint but I would like some outside party to confirm this :-)

[ViPaDawG]

yep, pdanet fools the network to think that you are using the phone to surf (which is fine) and that means u DO NOT need the PAM plan.

[bam099]

Yeah I can confirm this. It works AMAZING! No charges. I wouldn't recommend downloading MP3's or anything like that because you don't want to throw up any red flags. In other words I definitely wouldn't want to ditch my residential DSL for this, but browsing should still be fine.

[alau1158]

Hmm so Sprint know if you're using Internet Sharing App even if you ask it to connect to the Sprint Vision vs Phone as Modem? Well I'm keeping my fingers cross and hope that they don't I actually like that program, makes tethering so much easier.

[defaultdotxbe]

I actually like that program, makes tethering so much easier.
im guessing you havent used PDANet, lol

[daclothe]

im guessing you havent used PDANet, lol

I've used it and happen to think it's great. How come you don't seem to like it?

[defaultdotxbe]

I've used it and happen to think it's great. How come you don't seem to like it?
i like PDAnet a lot, despite the fact that i have to soft reset my phone to get the PC app to see it

alau was referring (i think) to the internet sharing app in WM6, and said it was easy to use, i was basically stating PDAnet is just as easy (if not easier) to use

[alau1158]

yep finally hearing you guys raving pdanet so much i decided to give it a shot and you know what... it's easy. the only reason why i haven't tried it sooner is because i only tether my phone to my computer on occations actually it's just to my carputer and since i don't have active sync installed on that it's kind of hard, but now that i know better :)

Thanks guys
-Alan

[letsgoflyers81]

Hmm so Sprint know if you're using Internet Sharing App even if you ask it to connect to the Sprint Vision vs Phone as Modem? Well I'm keeping my fingers cross and hope that they don't I actually like that program, makes tethering so much easier.

Sprint knows if you're tethering using Internet Sharing. The point of programs like PDANet and USB Modem is that they mask the tethering so Sprint can't tell.

[mwheeler2]

For info only... please verify these findings for yourself.

Sprint and other carriers use the NAI info from your handset to determine whether you're surfing from the handset or using another device to tunnel (or tether).

Disabling multi-NAI will prevent the carrier from detecting your usage type and should prevent any charges to your account due to tethering.

Instructions for disabling multi-NAI are available on the forum and the WIKI.

Cheers,

Mick

[0pRoZzAk0]

LoL im just waiting to see a huge charge on my next bill..... I was downloading video podcast, ..... about 1 gig or so this month. Both on phone, and using USBModem.. We'll see....

[letsgoflyers81]

LoL im just waiting to see a huge charge on my next bill..... I was downloading video podcast, ..... about 1 gig or so this month. Both on phone, and using USBModem.. We'll see....

What version of USBModem are you using? The Mogul isn't on the supported devices list and Mobile-Stream told me they think it might work, but aren't sure. Also, does it work with BT or just USB? I know there were BT issues when it was released for the Treo 755p.

[kmartburrito]

***IMPORTANT*** - Before you modify registry settings, make a backup using SPB backup or Sprite Backup. I tried to tether before changing the registry, and my internet got locked out permanently. I had to hard reset my phone because I didn't have a backup. If this happens to you (it will say your vision username and pass are incorrect, no matter what you do) then you can restore your backup and try again. You shouldn't have this issue if you change the registry keys and connect first before attempting to use the internet sharing app.


Here's the registry keys you need to change to hide that you're tethering:

get a registry editor like total commander, and go into

HKLM --> Software --> OEM --> Wmodem

Set every key in there (I think there's 4 IIRC) to zero.

This will disable tethering detection,and then you can actually go into settings --> connections --> Manage Existing Connections (under Sprint),and then change your default connection method to "Phone as Modem" instead of Sprint PCS.

after changing the registry keys and connection settings, you will want to soft reset, and then when your phone boots back up, you need to connect to EVDO by opening internet explorer. Once you are connected, you can close internet explorer, open the internet sharing app, change the connection from sprint pcs to phone as modem and then click 'connect' to start your tethering. It will do the rest by itself.

As a note, using the PAM as the default connection setting will give you a boost in download speeds as well, from what I've seen and what others have reported. Happy tethering!

[letsgoflyers81]

***IMPORTANT*** - Before you modify registry settings, make a backup using SPB backup or Sprite Backup. I tried to tether before changing the registry, and my internet got locked out permanently. I had to hard reset my phone because I didn't have a backup. If this happens to you (it will say your vision username and pass are incorrect, no matter what you do) then you can restore your backup and try again. You shouldn't have this issue if you change the registry keys and connect first before attempting to use the internet sharing app.


Here's the registry keys you need to change to hide that you're tethering:

get a registry editor like total commander, and go into

HKLM --> Software --> OEM --> Wmodem

Set every key in there (I think there's 4 IIRC) to zero.

This will disable tethering detection,and then you can actually go into settings --> connections --> Manage Existing Connections (under Sprint),and then change your default connection method to "Phone as Modem" instead of Sprint PCS.

after changing the registry keys and connection settings, you will want to soft reset, and then when your phone boots back up, you need to connect to EVDO by opening internet explorer. Once you are connected, you can close internet explorer, open the internet sharing app, change the connection from sprint pcs to phone as modem and then click 'connect' to start your tethering. It will do the rest by itself.

As a note, using the PAM as the default connection setting will give you a boost in download speeds as well, from what I've seen and what others have reported. Happy tethering!

I've seen this edit to disable NAI. Do they do the same thing, or is there a difference?

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\OEM\WModem\Multi-NAI default is 1, set to 0(00000000)

[kmartburrito]

I've seen this edit to disable NAI. Do they do the same thing, or is there a difference?

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\OEM\WModem\Multi-NAI default is 1, set to 0(00000000)

Now that I look at it, there are three keys to modify... CheckProfile, Multi-NAI, and WModemDUN.

I am thinking that the CheckProfile key allows the phone to check your profile on sprint to see if you have the PAM service.

I think the WModemDUN is disabled by default anyway, and am not sure what it does. But I do know that I can connect all day now using Phone as Modem and tether with no issues and no additional programs to install :D

[letsgoflyers81]

I checked my registry and you're right, there's CheckProfile, Multi-NAI, and WModemDUN. The first two are 1, the last is 0. So set the other two to 0 and tethering will be undetectable? I figured all programs like PDANet and USBModem did were change these values as well as provide drivers and/or a GUI, but I wanted to be sure.

I won't be tethering often, but I am going through a ton of data on the Mogul itself by streaming music all day long. I went through five gigs the first month I had it. I wouldn't want Sprint to see all that data, see some tethering, and then hit me with any charges or cancel my service.

Did you need to install any drivers for your Mogul or did Windows detect it right away? I'm running Windows XP Pro SP2 for what it's worth.

[Rickochet2]

Guys I go into my registry & for the life of me I can't find the WModem menu.

I get into SOFTWARE-OEM & bam there is no Wmodem.

I am using Regedit. & am clueless.

THanks for the help.

[blazin-asian]

Guys I go into my registry & for the life of me I can't find the WModem menu.

I get into SOFTWARE-OEM & bam there is no Wmodem.

I am using Regedit. & am clueless.

THanks for the help.

you need PHM Registry editor found here: http://www.phm.lu/Products/PocketPC/RegEdit/

now navigate to:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\OEM\WModem
and set all the values to 0


ok, so if you disable all 3 then sprint wont see it as tethering then?

[Rickochet2]

I am using regedit but the Wmodem is not visible on my device.

Found out what it was. I put the same regedit that i used on my smartphone & it is definitely different from the ppc version.

Thanks for the link.

[naruzopsycho]

The Softbank x01HT (HTC hermes branded for Japan) doesnt seem to have these reg. keys. All I've got is ChannelID.

I called softbank on this and, as expected, using it as a modem is "unsupported" but if I want to use it they'll be happy to charge me, despite my "unlimited packets" plan :)

Haven't trolled the forums for x01ht-specific solutions yet, but will have a poke around and see what I come up with.

-nate

[gernerpsu]

I used pdanet extensively my first month and got no extra charges.

[Dishe]

The Softbank x01HT (HTC hermes branded for Japan) doesnt seem to have these reg. keys. All I've got is ChannelID.

I called softbank on this and, as expected, using it as a modem is "unsupported" but if I want to use it they'll be happy to charge me, despite my "unlimited packets" plan :)

Haven't trolled the forums for x01ht-specific solutions yet, but will have a poke around and see what I come up with.

-nate

The settings and solutions discussed in this thread are specific to CDMA carriers. Here in the US, the big CDMA providers like Sprint and Verizon check for tethering by looking at certain packet headers, which can be changed using these keys.
There may be similar registry settings for GSM phones such as the hermes, however there is no guarantee that any of the information here will be relevant for you. If your provider is on the lookout for tethering, they may not use the same system as this.
When I was on GSM last (T-mobile), they didn't care if I tethered or not, and had no system to check for it in place, so its possible you don't need any of this!

[lanwarrior]

***IMPORTANT*** - Before you modify registry settings, make a backup using SPB backup or Sprite Backup. I tried to tether before changing the registry, and my internet got locked out permanently. I had to hard reset my phone because I didn't have a backup. If this happens to you (it will say your vision username and pass are incorrect, no matter what you do) then you can restore your backup and try again. You shouldn't have this issue if you change the registry keys and connect first before attempting to use the internet sharing app.


Here's the registry keys you need to change to hide that you're tethering:

get a registry editor like total commander, and go into

HKLM --> Software --> OEM --> Wmodem

Set every key in there (I think there's 4 IIRC) to zero.

This will disable tethering detection,and then you can actually go into settings --> connections --> Manage Existing Connections (under Sprint),and then change your default connection method to "Phone as Modem" instead of Sprint PCS.

after changing the registry keys and connection settings, you will want to soft reset, and then when your phone boots back up, you need to connect to EVDO by opening internet explorer. Once you are connected, you can close internet explorer, open the internet sharing app, change the connection from sprint pcs to phone as modem and then click 'connect' to start your tethering. It will do the rest by itself.

As a note, using the PAM as the default connection setting will give you a boost in download speeds as well, from what I've seen and what others have reported. Happy tethering!

So is the above is confirmed that Sprint will NOT detect us tethering WITHOUT using PDANET and by simply using the Internet Sharing program?

BTW, I bought the Mogul using SERO and my plan is shown to have UNLIMITED WEB/DATA ACCESS. I don't know if this is restricted only to MOBILE data access, but I don't see the option to add "Use phone as modem" when I ordered online.

[defaultdotxbe]

So is the above is confirmed that Sprint will NOT detect us tethering WITHOUT using PDANET and by simply using the Internet Sharing program?

BTW, I bought the Mogul using SERO and my plan is shown to have UNLIMITED WEB/DATA ACCESS. I don't know if this is restricted only to MOBILE data access, but I don't see the option to add "Use phone as modem" when I ordered online.
i have the same thing (mogul w/ SERO) and it wouldnt even let me use the internet sharing app, it just said i couldnt be authorized on the network or some such (havent tried it with the reg edits) so i assume the unlimited data is for the mobile browser only

i tried asking where i could add tethering the plan, but no one seemed to know who to talk to about getting that with SERO (SERO operator told me to call customer support, customer support told me to check at a sprint store, store told me to call SERO)

[steb0ne]

i have the same thing (mogul w/ SERO) and it wouldnt even let me use the internet sharing app, it just said i couldnt be authorized on the network or some such (havent tried it with the reg edits) so i assume the unlimited data is for the mobile browser only

i tried asking where i could add tethering the plan, but no one seemed to know who to talk to about getting that with SERO (SERO operator told me to call customer support, customer support told me to check at a sprint store, store told me to call SERO)



I tried the reg edits before and couldn't get them to work without the same error you're describing. I just added the tethering (phone as modem) plan to my SERO plan the other day. Just press *2 from the phone and press the option for rate plans.

It's a $39.99, which can be removed at anytime and doesn't change your contract.

I had to log onto Sprint.com and go under the settings & preferences and update my PowerVision password. There's an option there that sends a IOTA update to the phone to update the profile on the phone. Then it will work.

[lanwarrior]

I tried the reg edits before and couldn't get them to work without the same error you're describing. I just added the tethering (phone as modem) plan to my SERO plan the other day. Just press *2 from the phone and press the option for rate plans.

It's a $39.99, which can be removed at anytime and doesn't change your contract.

I had to log onto Sprint.com and go under the settings & preferences and update my PowerVision password. There's an option there that sends a IOTA update to the phone to update the profile on the phone. Then it will work.

I found out that the unlimited data with the SERO plan is NOT for tethering (PAM). So this is just like anyone ordering a regular service (non-SERO) without the PAM.

It seems that the ONLY way to get tethering without PAM is to use PDANET. However, I am curious with kmartburrito posting above which claims that tethering without PAM works by changing the registry above.

By the way, what is this USBModem program people is talking about above? In the Mogul, there is only the Internet Sharing app.

[dave3211]

Hi,

I have been reading this thread, I have a couple of questions.

Why do carrier change more for PDA connected vs same price as using a PC card in a laptop?

Do all carrier use the same file to check how you are connecting?

I am with Telus in Canada, they just lowered their unlimited data rate to $75/month, you cannot get an unlimited plan in Canada with any carrier for PDA.

Dave

[drkstar]

By the way, what is this USBModem program people is talking about above? In the Mogul, there is only the Internet Sharing app.

USB Modem:

http://www.mobile-stream.com/usbmodem_wm.html

[jd254]

ok i need a definite reply, using PDANet, My provider (Sprint) will not terminate my contract or charge me crazy fees for my high data usage with or without the reg edits...

[lanwarrior]

Can someone post the regedit? I searched but I think my searching skills is not good enough.:)

[yangers]

Can someone post the regedit? I searched but I think my searching skills is not good enough.:)


Here it is;

Disable Multi-NAI
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\OEM\WModem\Multi-NAI default is 1, set to 0(00000000)

[lanwarrior]

Thanks, Yangers.

I assume after changing the registry, I can just use the Internet Sharing program and connect the Mogul to PPC for tethering, no additional steps required?

[primenall]

Thanks, Yangers.

I assume after changing the registry, I can just use the Internet Sharing program and connect the Mogul to PPC for tethering, no additional steps required?

Well there is a lot of disinformation going on in this thread, it has beeen pretty much established that none of the listed registry edits are needed to tether through Internet Sharing without incurring additional charges.

There is one edit that should be done, that will eliminate a step in the connection process and will hide your tethering activity. Credit goes to Luv2Chill..... here's the Qoute

""""" OK I've poked into things a bit more and yes it seems Sprint is up to no good in regards to tethering. Those of you running Sprint ROMs should remove the following registry value:

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\InternetSharing]
"Extension"="rilphone.dll"

Usual caveats about editing the registry apply here--don't do this unless you know how."""""

Removing means Deleting that entry from the registry, (it doesn't delete rilphone.dll just the shortcut to it when you open I.S.)
Once done tethering is simple using the included Internet Sharing....

USB should only be plugged into PC at this point...

1. Open Internet Sharing and hit connect (it opens a data connection to Sprint)
2. Plug usb into phone, wait a minute for PC to set up and that's it.

Always hit "disconnect" in I.S. BEFORE removing USB, always.

[lanwarrior]

Well there is a lot of disinformation going on in this thread, it has beeen pretty much established that none of the listed registry edits are needed to tether through Internet Sharing without incurring additional charges.

There is one edit that should be done, that will eliminate a step in the connection process and will hide your tethering activity. Credit goes to Luv2Chill..... here's the Qoute

""""" OK I've poked into things a bit more and yes it seems Sprint is up to no good in regards to tethering. Those of you running Sprint ROMs should remove the following registry value:

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\InternetSharing]
"Extension"="rilphone.dll"

Usual caveats about editing the registry apply here--don't do this unless you know how."""""

Removing means Deleting that entry from the registry, (it doesn't delete rilphone.dll just the shortcut to it when you open I.S.)
Once done tethering is simple using the included Internet Sharing....

USB should only be plugged into PC at this point...

1. Open Internet Sharing and hit connect (it opens a data connection to Sprint)
2. Plug usb into phone, wait a minute for PC to set up and that's it.

Always hit "disconnect" in I.S. BEFORE removing USB, always.

Thanks, prime. I have deleted the registry as mentioned above and have NOT changed the other registry (MUltiNAI). So far I connect just fine. Of course, I wouldn't know if it works until I receive my next Sprint Bill. :D. But if you can confirm that you use the above solution for months without getting charged then I am a happy camper.

[primenall]

Thanks, prime. I have deleted the registry as mentioned above and have NOT changed the other registry (MUltiNAI). So far I connect just fine. Of course, I wouldn't know if it works until I receive my next Sprint Bill. :D. But if you can confirm that you use the above solution for months without getting charged then I am a happy camper.

Yeah, never had a problem or has anyone else reported being charged yet with I.S. as long as you have unlimited vision/powervision on your account.

And I sometimes dl a lot, 30gb or more a month isn't uncommon. I've been tethering since day one with my mogul and with my 6700 for a long time before that, and never had a data charge ever.


Sprint seems like they goofed up again just like the 6700 it tethers out of the box without a PAM plan, I'd guess since they rushed out the Mogul with WM6 (it's their first WM6 phone) they didn't have time to adequetely disable the tethering capabilities, they just did a quick fix.

That link to rilphone.dll seems to be their lame attempt at restricting tethering, as one function of that file is to prevent I.S. from dialing into Sprint on it's own, unless you pick the PAM option.(Lame attempt as all you had to do is just open a data connection using IE first and I.S. still worked)

[SteveDusa]

Awesome! Works like a charm on my 2.16 buggy ROM.

IS works thru BT DUN to my MacBook Pro, works like a charm.

I'm going to check the data usage on the user account page later and hopefully, no additional charge.

[bbf]

That link to rilphone.dll seems to be their lame attempt at restricting tethering, as one function of that file is to prevent I.S. from dialing into Sprint on it's own, unless you pick the PAM option.(Lame attempt as all you had to do is just open a data connection using IE first and I.S. still worked)

Be glad their solution was lame, it just makes your life easier.
The "lame" fix is enough to discourage Sprint's average user from tethering, and that's really all Sprint cares about.

[mrgeoff]

Awesome! Works like a charm on my 2.16 buggy ROM.

IS works thru BT DUN to my MacBook Pro, works like a charm.

I'm going to check the data usage on the user account page later and hopefully, no additional charge.

Pardon my n00bness but... where do you go to see your data usage? I've been looking around my account settings on Sprint's site, but I can't seem to find this.

[JayUSA]

The Internet Sharing application gives me a choice of 2 "network connections":

- Sprint PCS
- Phone as Modem

Which do I want to pick?

Thanks!

Jay

[o0adam0o]

Is there a tutorial on how to tether without it being detected by sprint?

There seems to be alot of scattered information on how to it.

Do i need to connect thru PDANet AND do this registry delete: [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\InternetSharing]
"Extension"="rilphone.dll"


Or do i just do the registry delete and tether thru the internet sharing program that came on my phone? (thats what I.S is?)

[2kmy477]

Yeah, never had a problem or has anyone else reported being charged yet with I.S. as long as you have unlimited vision/powervision on your account.

And I sometimes dl a lot, 30gb or more a month isn't uncommon. I've been tethering since day one with my mogul and with my 6700 for a long time before that, and never had a data charge ever.


Sprint seems like they goofed up again just like the 6700 it tethers out of the box without a PAM plan, I'd guess since they rushed out the Mogul with WM6 (it's their first WM6 phone) they didn't have time to adequetely disable the tethering capabilities, they just did a quick fix.

That link to rilphone.dll seems to be their lame attempt at restricting tethering, as one function of that file is to prevent I.S. from dialing into Sprint on it's own, unless you pick the PAM option.(Lame attempt as all you had to do is just open a data connection using IE first and I.S. still worked)


Had you actually used 30gb a month w/o being charged extra?I use about 5gb every month and i'm worry.

[pflatlyne]

im guessing you havent used PDANet, lol

I tried it but it never worked reliably. I had to reset things and fiddle with it to get it to work. It also ran alot slower than internet connection sharing. A better solution is to do the registry hack to disable modem NAI and use ICS. Over bluetooth the connection is slower than over USB. For USB you have to terminate activesync before using it,but I had to do that with PDANet as well. A really slick solution is to use chainfires WMWIFIRouter program. It works perfectly.
There is only one problem,and thats a issue with the Mogul,not ICS or chainfires program. The Mogul has a tendency to overheat if you turn everything on. When it overheats the battery stops charging. (everything else is fine,it doesn't overheat to the point that there is a problem with the cpu,just that the safety cutout on the battery kicks in) If you turn off bluetooth,shut down all apps,oven the keyboard (to improve cooling) and shut the screen off it works ok. Sometimes it stops charging,but cools down and starts again before it causes a problem. Over wifi the connection works great and is as fast as USB. Its also possible to install on a wireless network. I think you can even have multiple computers connect with it in that configuration.

[defaultdotxbe]

I tried it but it never worked reliably. I had to reset things and fiddle with it to get it to work. It also ran alot slower than internet connection sharing. A better solution is to do the registry hack to disable modem NAI and use ICS. Over bluetooth the connection is slower than over USB. For USB you have to terminate activesync before using it,but I had to do that with PDANet as well. A really slick solution is to use chainfires WMWIFIRouter program. It works perfectly.
i had problems reliability when i was using the WM6 preview release, but the final release alwyas worked great for me

i never had to terminate AS because PDAnet actually requires activesync to work, lol

i might look into ICS, but having to kill AS each time would annoy me

[shadowteller]

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\InternetSharing]
"Extension"="rilphone.dll"



Yes this is great but when I try to edit this line...it says access denied...any chance Sprint caught on and are now placing this portion of the registry in ROM?

[ambush276]

Thanks, prime. I have deleted the registry as mentioned above and have NOT changed the other registry (MUltiNAI). So far I connect just fine. Of course, I wouldn't know if it works until I receive my next Sprint Bill. :D. But if you can confirm that you use the above solution for months without getting charged then I am a happy camper.

hey does this work on anycomputer, like just pops up??? or do i need activesync . What about like on a mac?? what do i do then?

[ambush276]

also i deleted the the rilphone.dll or w/e its called. Now do i want to connect via SprintPCS or via Phone as Modem?

[bigfatdude]

also i deleted the the rilphone.dll or w/e its called. Now do i want to connect via SprintPCS or via Phone as Modem?

I think either one should work fine as long as you have the NAI registry keys zeroed out, though the PAM option seems to be a little faster on my unit.

[pflatlyne]

Ive been tether on sprint for over a year. I used a samsung phone for most of the time and since october Ive been using the mogul. Sprint never charged me extra

[primenall]

also i deleted the the rilphone.dll or w/e its called. Now do i want to connect via SprintPCS or via Phone as Modem?

Definetely do PCS, or they probably can tell when it dials in, unless you do other reg edits.

For me I've checked out both pcs and pam (with dl'ing off newsservers, a great way to see real speeds) and usually get about the same speeds, leaning either way, that's just my experience where I'm at.

[ambush276]

ummm.. ok that is good to hear i guess... I will just use PCS, but do i need to do the whole NAI thing if i just use PCS???? if i dont use the PAM option, can i just use PCS and not do NAI? or does it matter?

the other thing is how do i connect via USB To mac???

[pflatlyne]

ummm.. ok that is good to hear i guess... I will just use PCS, but do i need to do the whole NAI thing if i just use PCS???? if i dont use the PAM option, can i just use PCS and not do NAI? or does it matter?

the other thing is how do i connect via USB To mac???

If you use something like pdanet it may not matter,but Im not an expert becuase I use chainfires app. If you use that,or if you just use the internet connection sharing (which chainfires app uses too) then you need the hacks or it wont connect properly.

[GrandMstrBud]

Hello everyone, I just got my HTC touch from Sprint and I am wondering if anyone has tried the registry hack with it or PDANet. I tried PDANet and when using bluetooth DUN I get a username/password error for vision services. I can't remember if I got the error everytime through the USB connection or not but I do know the first time I tried with the USB connection it did work. I uninstalled PDANet and did the registry hack and tested the connection via bluetooth and the USB cable and both work just fine. I really don't have a need to use it much but I like to have the option available. On my other phone I only used it when I traveled and stayed at a hotel that charged for high speed access which was not very often.

[pflatlyne]

There is a "bug" in sprints method of locking down the phone to prevent tethering. If you connect to the internet first with internet explorer or another program,then use connection sharing,it wont throw an error. (if you dont connect first,ICS tries to connect and causes the error) Thats why you might have had to connect sometimes and not others.

PDAnet however should connect like a program,in other words,the phone does not know the difference between it and Internet Explorer. (at least thats how I understand it,of course take all that with a grain of salt. I only used PDAnet for a day because the connection speed over it really sucked compared to ICS)

I now use either USB or chainfires app. Bluetooth unfortunately is still alot slower . (300-400k/s instead of 800-1000) I have done the registry hacks,including the NAI hack and sprint has not charged my any extra. I have been tethering for two and a half years as my primary internet connection,downloading a several gigs a month. I download programs,use bittorrent,and use the web rather heavily. Untill this fall,I used a Samsung a920 with the tethering hack (you go into the secret menu and turn modem nai off) and in october I went over to the Mogul with ICS.

Sprint is either clueless,does not care,or perhaps they put up with it because I'm still under contract. It will be interesting to see what happens when my contract expires.

[GrandMstrBud]

Yeah I'm not sure why PDANet dosn't work that well but the Internet sharing program works fine. I'll leave it at that since I will rarley use it since I do have a data card. Before I had the data card I used my Samsung A900 once in a while but not to often. It's just nice to know I have that option if I don't have my card with me.

[tavella]

Sprint can tell even if you do the registry edits. I have received two bills now where I have been charged $75 for exceeding 2500kb of data. After a conversation with customer service, they waived the fees and told me to add the PAM if I don't want to see these charged. I played dumb when it came to how it let me connect without the error 67. FYI. Your results may be different. I know I followed the instructions 100%. PDAnet never caused me any problems as I used it with my Motorola Q and never received an additional charge.

[intlschizo]

I've used it and happen to think it's great. How come you don't seem to like it?

Speaking only for myself, it's excruciatingly slow. I can't even send emails w/PDANet, and I'm in an EVDO area using a Mogul. USBModem is about 3x faster (and $14 cheaper); unfortunately it's also a piece of crap that runs whenever it feels like it. PDANet is so much easier to use, but I can't keep using it. So it's another $20 out of pocket for me.

I will say that on average, I tether about 5-7 GB a month w/PDANet and have never been hit with a charge. I've only used USBModem for two weeks; I get my bill tomorrow or Monday and will the board know if I get hit with a charge.

*edit* Okay, update. I got my bill today - NO CHARGE having used USBModem. Downloaded about 8 GB last month.

[intlschizo]

And I sometimes dl a lot, 30gb or more a month isn't uncommon.

Yeah, but I think it's pretty well established that the 6700 has been kissed by the tethering gods. I need some confirmation by people running 6800s. I tether about 5 GBs a month w/PDANet; it's slow as hell, but I know it works. I'm dying to use Internet Sharing, but I don't want to get dinged (none of us do).

[sattyg89]

The Softbank x01HT (HTC hermes branded for Japan) doesnt seem to have these reg. keys. All I've got is ChannelID.

I called softbank on this and, as expected, using it as a modem is "unsupported" but if I want to use it they'll be happy to charge me, despite my "unlimited packets" plan :)

Haven't trolled the forums for x01ht-specific solutions yet, but will have a poke around and see what I come up with.

-nate

hey im in canada on the tlus network and I downloaded Internet connection sharing. I use that to connect to the internet on my phone. can they tell im using it on my laptop?

[Gilliland]

Is there a tutorial on how to tether without it being detected by sprint?
In my experience, the answer is simple - just go ahead and do it. I can tether using either PDANet or Internet Sharing. Neither one causes any additional charges. I've done NO registry changes whatsoever. My plan is SERO with nothing extra. (In other words, standard unlimited powervision.)

[hidavi]

I always tethered with T-Mobile and AT&T with no problems...

[thenyccharles]

What's the sprint UserID and password when I use tethering using BT DUN on the Mogul? Thanks.