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pcprono
19th July 2007, 09:57 PM
Hi guys!

I'm totally new to this forum and I apologize if this issue has been discussed/explained earlier, but here goes:

I recently purchased a new HTC P3600/Trinity , as I have been using Qtek/HTC pocketpc's the last years and have been very satisfied with them. One of the main reasons I bought Trinity was because of the 400mhz Samsung CPU which I thought would be fairly faster than the 200mhz TI CPU on my previous S200. But, what I don't understand is that, when I try to for example play NES games with PocketNES or PocketNester on the Trinity, the emulation runs sooo slow, even with sound disabled. On my S100 and S200, NES emulation was flawless with sound enabled. I have also noticed some other slowdowns when running apps/games as well. Why is this? I do hope this is a bug that can be fixed somehow with a hack/tweak or a rom upgrade.

I am also wondering if there is, per date, any overclocking apps that work with the Samsung 400mhz CPU?

Any help/comments appreciated, thanks! :)

- Stian

ww2250
19th July 2007, 10:30 PM
CPU MHz isn't the sole determinant for the overall application performance. I bet you are not running number crunching application in your Trinity, don't you?

Playing games inevitably involves the graphics chip, in Trinity's case - the ATI Imageon chip, which unfortunately is not too well supported by these apps. You don't get decent playback of video until recently.

And speaking about overclock - I still don't see any proper app to really overclock that Samsung CPU....

pcprono
19th July 2007, 10:55 PM
Alright thanks for the input! I really thought that the previous HTC devices had sort of the same graphics chip. I sure hope there will be software enhanced for the ati chip in the future though. More comments appreciated as well! ;)

prasys
20th July 2007, 04:50 AM
Its mainly because of the stupid ATI Accelerator

Please take a look at a wiki. Its a known issue , whenever you play a game (that uses stylus input) , you'll notice that fps drops dramatically but then if you just use the buttons , it works fine..I am not sure why or what. But it seems that ATI Graphics chip is the culprit

pcprono
20th July 2007, 09:09 AM
Yeah, I've heard about the thing with the touchscreen slowing it down. But even if I'm not even close to using the touch screen, it's already slow.. :(

viperx
20th July 2007, 05:19 PM
Its mainly because of the stupid ATI Accelerator

Please take a look at a wiki. Its a known issue , whenever you play a game (that uses stylus input) , you'll notice that fps drops dramatically but then if you just use the buttons , it works fine..I am not sure why or what. But it seems that ATI Graphics chip is the culprit

so has there been any fix for this? i know that wm6 certainly doesn't make the situation better.

pcprono
22nd July 2007, 05:33 PM
More comments on this issue is greatly appreciated.. As far as I have experience by now.. Every game and/or application I use that requires holding the stylus to the touchscreen suffers from major slowdowns. . I will definitely send an e-mail to HTC complaining about this issue and I hope that others will do the same. They should really fix this issue in the next ROM release .. :mad:

simonuca
23rd July 2007, 01:32 AM
More comments on this issue is greatly appreciated.. As far as I have experience by now.. Every game and/or application I use that requires holding the stylus to the touchscreen suffers from major slowdowns. . I will definitely send an e-mail to HTC complaining about this issue and I hope that others will do the same. They should really fix this issue in the next ROM release .. :mad:

You can try XCPUScalar to overclock your device (paid software) http://www.immiersoft.com/, tried it on mine (HTC P3600). Works.
Good luck

ww2250
23rd July 2007, 09:52 AM
More comments on this issue is greatly appreciated.. As far as I have experience by now.. Every game and/or application I use that requires holding the stylus to the touchscreen suffers from major slowdowns. . I will definitely send an e-mail to HTC complaining about this issue and I hope that others will do the same. They should really fix this issue in the next ROM release .. :mad:

I haven't used any NES emulators on Trinity - but does it involves the touch screen at all?

If you are talking about raw video performance, I guess those software like emulators will sooner or later support the ATI video chip, which would then provide better video speed.

But I doubt there's any fix from HTC regarding the stylus performance hit problem.

R_S_4
23rd July 2007, 11:33 AM
Besides the problem with the touchscreen...have you tried to upgrade to WM 6?
Mine is much faster since the upgrade.

pcprono
23rd July 2007, 07:35 PM
Besides the problem with the touchscreen...have you tried to upgrade to WM 6?
Mine is much faster since the upgrade.

Really?

Is it stable and all with the WM6 upgrade? I would prefer a Norwegian WM6 rom though, considering the norwegian special letters and all .. I'll might upgrade to WM6 then, can anyone else confirm this? :)

Ce
23rd July 2007, 08:20 PM
You can try XCPUScalar to overclock your device (paid software) http://www.immiersoft.com/, tried it on mine (HTC P3600). Works.
Good luck

What version are you using. According to the developer Samsung support is on his "to do" list and not yet implemented.

maevro
23rd July 2007, 08:27 PM
What version are you using. According to the developer Samsung support is on his "to do" list and not yet implemented.

I thought that too....

http://www.technologyatplay.com/main/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=4868&posts=3&start=1

R_S_4
24th July 2007, 09:17 AM
I'm running PDAVIET's 02.07.07 with Radio 1.46.00.11 and it is absolute stable. Never had any problems with it and the gps works fine too (since the radio update). I have it installed for about 2 weeks...but it is in english.