8GB Micro SD

[nicholasendean]

Ok, so from my research, the 8GB Micro SD is not yet widely available or even on the shelves (correct me if I wrong). But, according to the various sites I've looked at these size cards are well on there way to being released.


I know the new standard of SDHC SD card are available in 8GB and possibly above, but I have now got a Hermes, so wanted to try going higher in Micro SD. Presently I use both a 2GB and a 4GB Micro SD, depending on what I'm needing to store.
Size wise 4GB it great as options for storage are vast.
But I wanted to see it there was any further news as to the new 8GB or higher that I'd read somewhere?

Having looked on line I could only find the following:

6GB Micro SD
==========
Pre-ordering only?

1: http://www.mymemory.co.uk/memory/SanDisk/6GB/Micro/SDHC/Card
= SanDisk 6GB Micro SDHC Card £69.99

8GB Micro SD
==========
Pre-ordering only?

2: http://www.mymemory.co.uk/memory/SanDisk/8GB/Micro/SDHC/Card (http://www.mymemory.co.uk/memory/SanDisk/8GB/Micro/SDHC/Card)
= SanDisk 8GB Micro SDHC Card £99.99

Since upgrading the Hermes ROM on my phone to WM6 which was purely to allow it to use the 4GB Micro SD I had bought (I swear by SanDisk as have NEVER had a problem with them in over 5 years of assorted SD cards)


Am going to keep looking over the next few weeks and would be interested in any feedback if any others have found any news about higher capacity versions.



I have no idea if WM6 will be able to read higher than 4GB but my guess would be a resounding YES! on the grounds of what I have a feeling is WM6 full? SDHC support. whereas WM5 on the Orange version of the Hermes 'SPV M3100' had only partial support and can only recognize 2GB sized Cards.

N_C


PS: if this post is in the wrong place or out of date can a mod sort it out and remove or move it. Many thanks. Just wanted to share my interest and findings on these Micro beasties thats all.

[frenchglen]

You accidentally posted the 6GB page, if you change the "6" to "8" in the URL you'll get what you meant for the second post.

Wow thanks for those links can't wait to get my hands on 8GB of freakin memory! I'm very impressed with MicroSDHC and am so glad the Hermes can take the always (albeit gradual) increasing card capacities, without new hardware needed.

Take that, iPhone! (don't worry, i love you too)

[RemE]

I found it very difficult to get a 4gig microSD card in the US. I keep seeing these cards in the UK but they don't ship here. Does anyone have links to any companies for even a pre-order.

[nicholasendean]

You accidentally posted the 6GB page, if you change the "6" to "8" in the URL you'll get what you meant for the second post.

Wow thanks for those links can't wait to get my hands on 8GB of freakin memory! I'm very impressed with MicroSDHC and am so glad the Hermes can take the always (albeit gradual) increasing card capacities, without new hardware needed.

Take that, iPhone! (don't worry, i love you too)

The six (6) GB link was intentional bud. I have researched "above and beyond" the 4GB size. Happened to find the 6GB link on same site so added it as I didn't know if like myself others were also unaware of this specification.

Cheers anyway.

[RemE]

You missed his point, your 8gig link is incorrect, it links to the 6gig ad.

[philg2000]

Wow, 8G! Wish I had known that before splashing out on an 8G Zen MP3 player.

Thanks for the spot!

[MattiaRs]

Are you sure the hermes does support the micro sdhd?

I wrote yesterday to htc to ask what is the max size of microsd that hermer support, and the follow is the answer:

[....]
Good morning

The max size card your device supports is 2GB. It will not support HC (High Capacity) memory cards. Please see our recommended product below:

http://www.expansys.com/htc/p_htc_item.aspx?i=143529
[...]

Teorically an microsd reader could be support the HD format through a firmware update...



Ps: What is the difference betwen micro SDHD and micro SDHC?



From italy,

Mattia

[whatledog]

MattiaRs-- There many threads in this forum about people using sdhc cards in their hermes with the newer builds of ROM. You gotta search and read.

[nicholasendean]

You missed his point, your 8gig link is incorrect, it links to the 6gig ad.

Sorted, and thanks.

[nicholasendean]

You accidentally posted the 6GB page, if you change the "6" to "8" in the URL you'll get what you meant for the second post.

Wow thanks for those links can't wait to get my hands on 8GB of freakin memory! I'm very impressed with MicroSDHC and am so glad the Hermes can take the always (albeit gradual) increasing card capacities, without new hardware needed.

Take that, iPhone! (don't worry, i love you too)

Corrected. Didn't realize the mistake. Thanks dude.

[nicholasendean]

Are you sure the hermes does support the micro sdhd?

I wrote yesterday to htc to ask what is the max size of microsd that hermer support, and the follow is the answer:

[....]
Good morning

The max size card your device supports is 2GB. It will not support HC (High Capacity) memory cards. Please see our recommended product below:

http://www.expansys.com/htc/p_htc_item.aspx?i=143529
[...]


Ps: What is the difference betwen micro SDHD and micro SDHC?



From italy,

Mattia







When a representative from Orange looked into this on my behalf, he also was told me that HTC was only recommending that the Hermes be used with 2GB Micro SD cards, as that was the limit they (HTC) would guarantee.
When I first tested cards out prior to a firmware update to WM6, the above was indeed true.
However, my Hermes now runs WM6 and uses a 4GB SDHC Micro SD Card on a daily basis without ever having a problem.

I have no idea if this will be true of higher spec cards such as the 6GB or the 8GB or even anything higher, but I feel confident that it will. But that is just my opinion as until tried and tested its down to guesswork whether or not other card sizes will be recognized.

PS: you asked what is the difference between micro SDHD and micro SDHC?

The answer is that I have NEVER heard of Micro SDHD. To me that is a High Definition tag and not one that refers to any card type.
I've only ever known SDHC.
Even Google comes back with: "Did you mean SDHC" Maybe others know of this type of card?

[nicholasendean]

Originally Posted by RemE
I found it very difficult to get a 4gig microSD card in the US. I keep seeing these cards in the UK but they don't ship here. Does anyone have links to any companies for even a pre-order.



I have deleted my original reply due to better response

See post (#13) from whatledog (http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=376987)

[whatledog]

I found it very difficult to get a 4gig microSD card in the US. I keep seeing these cards in the UK but they don't ship here. Does anyone have links to any companies for even a pre-order.

You could walk into a verizon store anytime and pick up a card, if you wanted. Other people have been able to order 4gb cards-- you could, also. READ!!!

[kalya]

Hello there,
I read you people are using 4GB SD without any problems, you might solve my problem.
I am using one on my Exec with WM6,(ROM 2.02.02,Radio 1.15, Protocol 42.51.P8, no ext rom) and facing a weird problem.The card loses the data for no apparent reason.The folder viz. My document has just been emptied and I lost my all ebooks--150 MB.
The file explorer shows the card contains 776 Mb data while the 'Resco explorer' shows 1007 Mb,in setting-memory-storage card it shows 1007 Mb,but it actually has only 776 Mb data, so I have lost 150 Mb data permanently and 300 Mb storage space on card!
This is the THIRD time it has happened and on previous occasions I had the card replaced.I am fed up with this problem,is it the card itself or the Exec or the WM6 or the ROM which is causing this problem?
Is there any way to retrieve the data and the memory lost from the card, for I think it is there and it just hidden somewhere...I hope.
I am not a techie,(medical doctor--using Exec more as a PDA than a communicator)hence the lengthy description ,thanks in advance,sorry for the intrusion.
bye.

[nicholasendean]

I wish I could help you further but apart from what I have read relating to the Hermes I can't.
I would hazard a guess and say that it sounds more like the Operating System / ROM which perhaps is not handling the card properly.

Best if you put up a new post on the main board and ask for help.

I hope you get it sorted as I know from my own problems similar to your missing card data how really annoying this problem is. I do know that I have had two SD card made by transcend. I used them for 6 months without a hitch. I put movies and files on them both for University and work use and used them in my previous phone which was an English version of the Prophet (Orange SPV M600)
Point is that in my own experience, Transcend are indeed a reliable brand or storage card. So it doesn't sound like a card problem in my opinion. Perhaps you may new to look at updating the ROM? I have no knowledge of your phone model "Exec" so can't help. But as I said best if you ask for help on the board. Maybe on various boards if you've had no luck already. Someone may have previously owned an Exec and might be able to shed some light on this problem.

[whatledog]

Kalya-- You need to post your problem on the Universal forums, not the Hermes. There, hopefully, you will get the help you need. Different models react differently to various things. May you find your solutions...:)

[jakirkla]

I found it very difficult to get a 4gig microSD card in the US. I keep seeing these cards in the UK but they don't ship here. Does anyone have links to any companies for even a pre-order.
http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-MicroSD-Transflash-Adapter-Packaging/dp/B000SMVQK8/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/103-7909473-9305455?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1185213672&sr=8-1

[Joecd04475]

http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-MicroSD-Transflash-Adapter-Packaging/dp/B000SMVQK8/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/103-7909473-9305455?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1185213672&sr=8-1

Did the price just go up? I swear I just saw them on Amazon for about $54.

[agoyeneche]

I found it very difficult to get a 4gig microSD card in the US. I keep seeing these cards in the UK but they don't ship here. Does anyone have links to any companies for even a pre-order.

From what I've been told, Sandisk made a deal with Verizon so they are the only approved suppliers in the US for one year. You can buy the 4GB miro SDHC card from them or any Verizon distributor (even Circuit City). However, they are more expensive than Amazon...:mad:

[lokmeup]

I found it very difficult to get a 4gig microSD card in the US. I keep seeing these cards in the UK but they don't ship here. Does anyone have links to any companies for even a pre-order.

Amazon.com

Ijust got my Sandisk 4gb sdhc today... woohhhoooo

[RemE]

Thanks, I said it was difficult to find one, and actually get it delivered. I did succeed a while back but it wasn't that easy. I was commenting in this thread specifically because you can pre-order the 8gig's from UK stores (that don't ship to the US) but I've not seen any US links to 8gig cards, pre-order or otherwise.

[whatledog]

I found it very difficult to get a 4gig microSD card in the US. I keep seeing these cards in the UK but they don't ship here. Does anyone have links to any companies for even a pre-order.

I could've sworn you were asking about 4gb micros.... Yep, I was right!!!;)

[RemE]

Sorry, it's a "tense" thing, I said "I found" as in the past when I had trouble, instead of "I find" or "I'm finding" as in "I'm still looking" (for a 4gig which I'm not). In re-reading it though, not very clear at all on my part, oh well.

[whatledog]

:D No problem :D

[kalya]

Kalya-- You need to post your problem on the Universal forums, not the Hermes. There, hopefully, you will get the help you need. Different models react differently to various things. May you find your solutions...:)

Yes, I am doing it,but I think the card problrm is not restricted to Universal only so I am just posting this querry wherever there is a discussion about a SD card - say 4GB or 8GB hoping against hope there is some solution.I never intended any intrusion buddy.

[whatledog]

Yes, I am doing it,but I think the card problrm is not restricted to Universal only so I am just posting this querry wherever there is a discussion about a SD card - say 4GB or 8GB hoping against hope there is some solution.I never intended any intrusion buddy.

You misunderstood me. I was thinking you'd get better help on the other forum, no intrusion.:) I still hope you find something, as my 8525 never had that problem, wm5 or wm6.

[miguel.netreg]

Does Hermes hardware even support 4 and 8GB MicroSD cards?.. does anyone know for sure? Pretty sucky to pre-order just to find out that it wont work when we get it...

[whatledog]

Does Hermes hardware even support 4 and 8GB MicroSD cards?.. does anyone know for sure? Pretty sucky to pre-order just to find out that it wont work when we get it...

One more time... We know that the newer wm6 builds support sdhc. You'll have to read as to which ones. It's been talked about on too many threads.

[Blowfish64]

One more time... We know that the newer wm6 builds support sdhc. You'll have to read as to which ones. It's been talked about on too many threads.

Including this one which is only 3 pages long.

[nicholasendean]

Including this one which is only 3 pages long.

3 pages long?
I count only 1 page. Are you referring to another post somewhere?

[Blowfish64]

I guess that would depend on how many posts you have set to display on a page. I'm still on 10.

[Paul Simon]

Hey there,
Sorry to go back to earlier in the list but just wanted to say I live in Jersey where MyMemory.com is based. When i saw these cards advertised I called one of the guys that run the company and he said it would be about 3 weeks before the cards were released. A couple of weeks later i realised that the cards were no longer on the site to preorder so i contacted them again and was told that they would be availible later on in the year. (I read into this that there is some sort of delay with manufacture or something) I want this card for my N95 and I think we are now talking months rather than weeks as previously expected.

On another note, it is my understanding that the compatibility issue with SDHC (at least for N95) is as follows. As with all storage devices if the device is below 2gb it can be formatted with FAT16 devices/cards of larger than this are not supported with FAT16 because it has a max capacity of 2gb. So must be formatted with FAT32. So not only will the device need to support SDHC but it also needs to be able to support FAT32 devices. The good news is that although the 2gb area is a bit fuzzy if your device supports the 4gb cards then in theory it should support all cards up to a high capacity (i think FAT32 reaches its limit at about 32 or 37gb)

I just need to get my hands on the 8gb cards now.

Also if they wont ship to where u are i dont mind buying a few cards and selling them on on ebay. just let me know if your interested when they come out.

Hope this helps.
Cheers
Paul Simon
(psimon@jerseymail.co.uk)

[v6ttgnx]

i just bought a 4GB SDHC by kingmax on ebay for 29.99 with free shipping..... would this be any different than the SanDisk? everybody in here keeps menitoning the SanDisk

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=ADME:B:EOIBSAA:US:11&Item=300140302446

[nicholasendean]

i just bought a 4GB SDHC by kingmax on ebay for 29.99 with free shipping..... would this be any different than the SanDisk? everybody in here keeps mentioning the SanDisk

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=ADME:B:EOIBSAA:US:11&Item=300140302446



Hi dude. Just read your post, and visited the eBay shop you linked to. It looks suspicious in my opinion and I look forward to any future details about how you get on with this new SDHC card you have bought.

Keep us informed.

Incidentally, having gone through buying several cheap cards to play and test on my hermes (all only 1 and 2 gb) whilst I waited to decide on which 4gb Micro SDHC card I would eventually buy, I ended up buying a complete kit consisting of the SanDisk 4gb sdhc Micro SD Card which came with a Card reader and a Micro sdhc to standard SD card adapter.

I have and always WILL swear by SANDISC as a quality and reliable product manufacturer. I've NEVER had ANY problems with them. I have had several SPV type phones and had several SD cards over the years and only ever had one single problem. That problem was with a Kingston standard SD card which was used in my previous phone "Prophet"
Since buying this new legitimate and 100% SanDisk card set, it works EVERY TIME AND is reliable. Obviously I had to upgrade the rom on my hermes to accommodate the 4GB card but it was indeed worth it.

I am very mush looking forward to being able to buy and try a higher capacity card in the near future and hope that these Hermes can take the 8gb or higher cards. Fingers crossed!!!

[sanguy888]

I just took a look at the ebay link. looks like you purchased a list where you can purchase items such as the SD card in the picture. They aren't selling the SD card.

[v6ttgnx]

i guess we'll find out in a few days, if it works, i just got a 4GB for half of what people normally pay for. hopefully for my sake, it works ;)

[swedbass]

I have and always WILL swear by SANDISC as a quality and reliable product manufacturer. I've NEVER had ANY problems with them.

I had one Sandisk MiniSD card that failed. Fortunately Sandisk replaced it within about 2 weeks.

I have Kingston cards too and they have been reliable. I would not recommend buying no-name brand memory cards from Ebay.

D

[dbltap]

i just bought a 4GB SDHC by kingmax on ebay for 29.99 with free shipping..... would this be any different than the SanDisk? everybody in here keeps menitoning the SanDisk

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=ADME:B:EOIBSAA:US:11&Item=300140302446

I hope you read all the way to the bottom of that ad. Because you didn't buy the card. You bought a Wholesale list of things you can buy! That card is just an illustration of what you can buy from the list you just paid $29.95 to obtain!

At the bottom in RED.....
This auction is for the wholesale list, not the item pictured. The picture is for illustrational purposes only and is a sample of what can be purchased from the wholesalers on the list. No refunds will be given!

[dbltap]

I have and always WILL swear by SANDISC as a quality and reliable product manufacturer. I've NEVER had ANY problems with them.Well, I hope you never have to return a dead card to them. It took a MONTH of dealing with their RMA dept to return a defective 2 gig microSD card. First they wanted a product code number as it was printed on the card itself. I couldn't see one. They told me I might need a magnifying glass. Finally, I had to tak the card out into sunlight and take a micro zoom digital photo and sent it to them. a week later I had to call them back and get them to look at the photo and agree I had a legit SanDisc card. Several more days before they finally issued an RMA. I sent the card back. And THEN they told me I had to provide Proof of Purchase! I don't know about the rest of you, but I don't really keep cash register receipts for $25 parts that have a 5 year warranty! After several more e-mail exchanges and escalation, they finally sent a replacement.

I can't really bring myself to buy another SanDisc product. Not because I don't trust the product. But I do not like that kind of customer service for a $25 part. I'll wait for Kingston or Patriot or Trancend to have it. YMMV

[bingobob]

Hi all,

I'd like to use my hermes as a MP3 player and put the whole european TomTom on it...there for I need a few things..

8 Gig SDHC Micro SD
Some Headphones (either bluetooth or I prefer an adapter of some sort that willl let me plug in regular ones). Or I use ones that shipped with device.

errr. That's it.

Where's the best/cheapest/reliable working 8 gig card on the market at the moment in the UK. The mobymemory one?

ta

BB

[margatenj]

I have a 4gb SDHD and it works great in my 8525, but I just want to ask a quick off topic question, anyone see a mp3 player that takes SDHD cards? I'd like to be able to have a SDHD compatible mp3 player for doing things in a non safe $600 dollar phone environment (biking, beach, etc.).

And yes I googled for 30 minutes before posting this with no luck.

Thanks!

[alylea]

I spoke with a high level manager at Sandisk US today regarding a project I am involved with that utilizes micro sdhc cards. The project requires as much memory as possible and I asked them when the 8GB would be available for testing and for purchase.

I was told that testing units to qualified partners would be available in Q4 of this year with full production around the beginning of 2008.

Any other information you get from a possible seller should be suspect and viewed as inaccurate.

Unfortunately this will keep the cost of the 4GB high until 2008.

[GuySparkz]

are patriot micro sd cards reliable? what are the best and worst sd cards to get?