Dopod S1 (htc touch)

[urumi]

Hi

i know there are already some post about this but im really lost

Whay is the difference between the one in HK and china mainland?

The wifi is software disable or really not exist on chinese one?

thanks

[urumi]

up.........................

[jychan28]

All factory authorized cell phones sold in China do not have Wifi enabled.

Dopod S1 does not have Wifi capability. It comes with CHS installed.

Htc Touch sold in H.K. has Wifi capability. It comes with CHT installed

Offical Htc Touch sold in H.K. is CHT version. You may get an English version (uk ROM).

For those who are not experts in Chinese, there are two major written Chinese systems, CHT and CHS. China use CHS, H.K. and Taiwan use CHT.
Most Chinese OS phones will DISPLAY either CHT or CHS and with the corresponding Chinese input system but can display SMS in English, CHT and CHS. All Chinese OS will display English material with no problem because all Chinese OS's are built from English OS's.

For those who want a Chinese OS phone and run English programs, just buy a Chinese phone of your choice and there is no issue.

For those who want an English OS but want to Read/Write Chinese of CHT or CHS, you have to install external Chinese OS and input softwares. CE-Star, Monster Chinese or just a Chinese display fonts and there are a few choices of Chinese input software.

For those who bought a Htc Touch with CHT in Hong Kong, you can change it to English OS if that is what you want. Otherwise just skip this section. Step1, CID unlock the phone. You may pay someone on-line to do it. Price I paid was US$41, that is 20 pounds or 28 eur or you may wait till someone provides a free service or program. Step2, download the Dopod WWE ROM from this forum, a small homework to do. Step3 is to install ActiveSync 4.5 on your Windows XP machine and connect your phone with a USB cable. Make sure the machines can see each other, Guest relationship is fine. Step4 is just to run the Dopod WWE ROM program, follow the screen instructions till you click the final Update button. Step5 is go and get a cup of cofee, if you don't like cofee, tea or water is OK. Just drink whatever you got and wait. Don't pull the cable or power off the machine. You will get enough time to finish your cofee or tea before the screen tells you everything is done. You may skip step 5 if you just like to stare at the screens and pray. Step6 is disconnects the machines and hard reset it one more time for good luck by pressing both left and right buttons and poke its ass. Screen will display a message to ask you to confirm your intention. Press the center button to confirm.

Now, you have an English OS machine. You may need to enter your name in ower's information and proceed to install whichever Chinese software package that you like.

For those who just want to have Chinese display, just install the minimum and not a full blown package.

Yes, Elf, Touch or S1 whatever it is called has very limited storage memory. 15 Mega Bytes less than its sibblings. After the installation of Chinese OS system with some nice Chinese display fonts and Chinese input system, you don't have much storage memory left to install other applications.

On the other hand, you may wonder, why should they want to sell you a perfect machine?
Just slightly better than the existing models but never be perfect is the moto........ and there is no perfect!!!

[xufuchang]

so if y buy english version or chinese version..already unlock or not??can we use that phone in another country??i still confuse here...CID unlock what its means??
is it like iphone lock by the at&t so we can use another simcard or what?

chinese input need a lot of space in memory..so i think better buy chinese version that already install CE-star.

[urumi]

oky thanks

mean if i want wifi i need buy the htc not the dopod... hk is little far from me :(

[xufuchang]

All factory authorized cell phones sold in China do not have Wifi enabled.

Dopod S1 does not have Wifi capability. It comes with CHS installed.

Htc Touch sold in H.K. has Wifi capability. It comes with CHT installed

Offical Htc Touch sold in H.K. is CHT version. You may get an English version (uk ROM).

For those who are not experts in Chinese, there are two major written Chinese systems, CHT and CHS. China use CHS, H.K. and Taiwan use CHT.
Most Chinese OS phones will DISPLAY either CHT or CHS and with the corresponding Chinese input system but can display SMS in English, CHT and CHS. All Chinese OS will display English material with no problem because all Chinese OS's are built from English OS's.

For those who want a Chinese OS phone and run English programs, just buy a Chinese phone of your choice and there is no issue.

For those who want an English OS but want to Read/Write Chinese of CHT or CHS, you have to install external Chinese OS and input softwares. CE-Star, Monster Chinese or just a Chinese display fonts and there are a few choices of Chinese input software.

For those who bought a Htc Touch with CHT in Hong Kong, you can change it to English OS if that is what you want. Otherwise just skip this section. Step1, CID unlock the phone. You may pay someone on-line to do it. Price I paid was US$41, that is 20 pounds or 28 eur or you may wait till someone provides a free service or program. Step2, download the Dopod WWE ROM from this forum, a small homework to do. Step3 is to install ActiveSync 4.5 on your Windows XP machine and connect your phone with a USB cable. Make sure the machines can see each other, Guest relationship is fine. Step4 is just to run the Dopod WWE ROM program, follow the screen instructions till you click the final Update button. Step5 is go and get a cup of cofee, if you don't like cofee, tea or water is OK. Just drink whatever you got and wait. Don't pull the cable or power off the machine. You will get enough time to finish your cofee or tea before the screen tells you everything is done. You may skip step 5 if you just like to stare at the screens and pray. Step6 is disconnects the machines and hard reset it one more time for good luck by pressing both left and right buttons and poke its ass. Screen will display a message to ask you to confirm your intention. Press the center button to confirm.

Now, you have an English OS machine. You may need to enter your name in ower's information and proceed to install whichever Chinese software package that you like.

For those who just want to have Chinese display, just install the minimum and not a full blown package.

Yes, Elf, Touch or S1 whatever it is called has very limited storage memory. 15 Mega Bytes less than its sibblings. After the installation of Chinese OS system with some nice Chinese display fonts and Chinese input system, you don't have much storage memory left to install other applications.

On the other hand, you may wonder, why should they want to sell you a perfect machine?
Just slightly better than the existing models but never be perfect is the moto........ and there is no perfect!!!

@jychan
can u give some advise...what version should i buy if i want htc touch that support english menu, but can type messages in english and chinese simplified,i cant read chinese traditional.
i consider want buy it in hong kong.
CHS and CHT what it means?

[ben_gb]

@jychan
can u give some advise...what version should i buy if i want htc touch that support english menu, but can type messages in english and chinese simplified,i cant read chinese traditional.
i consider want buy it in hong kong.
CHS and CHT what it means?

I think he basically told you in his original message.

You need to buy the English version and install a chinese package such as CE-STAR. This will let you read and write messages in Simplified and Traditional (you select which to use yourself).

CHT = Chinese Traditional
CHS = Chinese Simplified

Ben

[xufuchang]

I think he basically told you in his original message.

You need to buy the English version and install a chinese package such as CE-STAR. This will let you read and write messages in Simplified and Traditional (you select which to use yourself).

CHT = Chinese Traditional
CHS = Chinese Simplified

Ben

thanks so much...and the english version cost more expensive than the chinese version,but its ok..at least i've got english menu and can type chinese simplified.and i've got wifi that cant be got from dopod s1 china mainland.
bother you, what is CID lock??is that if i buy htc touch in hongkong not lock so i cant used it in china or another country?

[lunarken]

any 1 gt S1 today cab? cuz S1 got 2 TODAY. the other 1 is something like iphone style.

[xufuchang]

what is today cab?? what is the different dopod and htc?

[lunarken]

what is today cab?? what is the different dopod and htc?

today= ur main screen theme

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1102/845122382_9937689f5d_o.png
this is the 2nd theme in S1.

[ghisura]

...on a chinese forum, in fact it's a home plugin who call a programm not an home screen, and if you click twice on the same button it hide the links, for now I have just install it on wm6 emulator I have do some screen shot, I don't know if I can post it here so if a moderator can say me it.

sorry for my bad english

[lunarken]

u intstalled in in ur touch? can send me this plugin?

[jychan28]

thanks so much...and the english version cost more expensive than the chinese version,but its ok..at least i've got english menu and can type chinese simplified.and i've got wifi that cant be got from dopod s1 china mainland.
bother you, what is CID lock??is that if i buy htc touch in hongkong not lock so i cant used it in china or another country?

@xufuchang
Out of 42 posts you made in this forum, you have no less than 38 posts is asking questions on what version of Htc Touch or Dopod S1 or whether to buy it in Hong Kong. It does not sound like you live in Hong Kong nor you are native Chinese of either Chinese system. You don't have to so agonizing on your choice of just a cell phone. If you made a mistake, so what, friends in this forum will help you. It is a hot item, if you don't like it you can re-sell it easily. This forum has enough information to help you to make the decision. If you want to know all the details and charateristics of this phone before you can make up your mind, I suggest you just wait a couple of months and I am sure there will be a version of Elf that will fit all your requirement made by one of the manufacturer. Today, for all I know, not all countries carries Touch or S1. Regarding to your latest question on CID lock, I am sure not too many people know how that is done but only know what it does to the user.

CID locked phone means you cannot change its OS. If it is CHT, CHS, or Eng interface language, it stays that way. You have to get it CID unlock, (don't ask how again), to change the ROM's basic language.
I stand for correction from more experience forum members.

SIM locked phone means you can only use the SIM card provided from your original phone service provider. In most of those cases, you bought the phone with heavy discount or even free with a one or two years service contract.

Phones from authorized dealer are CID locked because manufacturer warrantees. All service provider phones sold in U.S. are also SIM locked. Nearly all phones sold in China are not SIM locked that is part of a reason why phones are more expensive in China because most are not subsidized by phone service providers.

So, ask yourself what you want this phone for. If you concern about travelling and need to go to Japan and use the same phone, then you need a 3G phone. Touch won't work in Japan. If you just want to use it in Indonesia, you have to know your own country. I can tell you this much, I cannot send Chinese SMS from a U.S. phone to China. I have to use a China phone to do that and pay the roaming charge from China to USA and USA to China.

As far as Wifi question goes, not everyone care about it the same way. Most people want to have it but hardly use it. I am one of those people. Wifi burns power and surfing with a tiny screen just beyond my eyes comfort zone.

Either you buy the Touch or S1 you will enjoy it. As I said, re-selling it won't be a problem if you dislike it.

[ghisura]

u intstalled in in ur touch? can send me this plugin?

yes i have install it on my touch, installation is ok, but it's in chinese so I have to modify xml for it's become more friendly user.

ps hou have a new pm

[lunarken]

pmed check ur incoming

[xufuchang]

thanks so much man...sorry for the trouble....

[lunarken]

ghisura, i rec. the cab... but its kinda tough for me to understand... cuz i'm noob to ppc.

[xufuchang]

today i saw htc touch sold in beijing china.
and its very cheap just 3500 yuan.when i saw the seller open the touch.
the software is dopod software.

[jychan28]

today i saw htc touch sold in beijing china.
and its very cheap just 3500 yuan.when i saw the seller open the touch.
the software is dopod software.

I am surprise you saw it for RMB 3,500. In Shanghai, Dopod S1 is sold for 4,480 from authorized dealers, that is with warrantee. I expect somewhere over 4K can get one. Htc Touch is sold for 3,680 in H.K. and lowest 3,580 couple weeks ago. Price dropped??

[xufuchang]

but no warranty from the dealer.its a black market phone.all phone that sale in that market all no warranty from the dealer.because its ilegal.i think its have been flash by them.because i saw that the f.w is dopod firmware and it is chinese simplified.

[lunarken]

ghisura, i rec. the cab... but its kinda tough for me to understand... cuz i'm noob to ppc.

[ghisura]

ghisura, i rec. the cab... but its kinda tough for me to understand... cuz i'm noob to ppc.

what do you have makes exactly?
do you have install it ?

[lunarken]

cannot change wallpaper?

[ghisura]

cannot change wallpaper?

yes you can, take a picture (320 px * 320 px) in png format
place it on /Program Files/dDockview/frame
rename it in BackGround.png

[510jungleboy]

yes i have install it on my touch, installation is ok, but it's in chinese so I have to modify xml for it's become more friendly user.

ps hou have a new pm

By any chance do you have an English version? I have the chinese version and I don't read chinese and it'll be installed on a HTC Mogul. it installed fine' but rather have an English if you can modify it. thanks in advance

[Icarus93]

Hi,

I am going to pick up my Touch tomorrow (Vancouver, Canada). Forgive my ignorance, got a few silly questions. How am I able to tell (without turning the device on) whether the Touch is equipped with WiFi or not? Or should I say, if the Touch is branded in Dopod which means it's WiFi disabled? Is there a seal on the phone which I know for sure that it's not a used device? Lastly, what's the most common English ROM around (Any version I should avoid) and can I tell which version of the ROM without turnning on the device, (Is there any serial number that I can tell, or smth like that??)

Thanks a bunch!!

Cheers,
Icarus93

[TheSyn]

hi guys, i go thru all your messages but still can't find any answer to my pb.
Dopod S1 sold in china is not Wifi enabled..oK...whereas Dopod S1 sold in HK is wifi enabled.
Now, can somebody tell me where to get and how to install the wifi on a Dopod S1 bought in China --- and which has been flashed and now featured with HTC touch - windows mobile 6, english version?

thanks a lots,

The Syn

[Belligerance]

The mainland China HTC (aka Dopod) phones are not WiFi disabled. The hardware is not present. Therefore there is no way to enable Wifi.

As for the cheaply priced phones, you want to ask the dealer if the phone is the Chinese authorized version (han huo de) or a tax exempt version (shui huo de). The "shui huo" versions are the same phones but they are tax exempt (for various reasons) and are much cheaper! The Chinese sellers register the phones IMEI (phones identity) number with China Mobile then it's good to go!!!!

I currently have a P3300/Artemis/Dopod P800(no WiFi) that is "shui huo" and haven't had a single problem. Not sure if it's SIM locked or not but I will let you know in a couple of days when I return to Canada.

I hope this helped. If I've made any errors, Please let me know (this is my personal experience as a foreigner who's been living in China for the past 6 years)

[Ennaul]

jychan , It's clear that u r an expert on this. so, could you or anyone out there pls help me on this question:

I am from singapore but I live and work in Shanghai. The Dopod S1 is available in Shanghai for RMB4500 and does not support WIFI. I am considering getting a friend to help me buy the HTC Touch from Singapore which will have WIFI and bring it to Shanghai for me, then i will insert my chinamobile SIM card and use it in China. It only costs SGD400 (RMB2000) in singapore. I do not mind an English Operating system, but will need chinese input. the HTC touch in singapore comes with CE star which supports Pinyin input , but what i'm looking for is
- the chinese handwriting input method that dopod s1 supports.
- the ability to open MS office documents that r in chinese

from your previous post, i now know that I need to check for SIM Lock, which i have checked and confirmed that I can insert another SIM card. So , now I just need to know what chinese software to download for the abovementioned features. Also , will the WIFI work in Shanghai?

manythanks

[Huckleberry88]

@Ennaul

What do you mean by "Chinese handwriting input" method? The Transcriber? Are you sure CE Star does not support it? (I am not expert on CE Star).

The "simplest" way would be to CID unlock the phone (can be found in the stickies) and to upload a CHS or CHT ROM replacing the current ROM. In that case you won't need any additional application to support the different Chinese input methods.

[Huckleberry88]

I just got a new Dopod S1 from a Chinese carrier.

I can confirm there is not WIFI feature - the ROM has been changed/adjusted for the carrier so even the WLAN application to activate it as well as the WLAN button in the Comm Manager are missing.

After CID unlock and upload of a WWE ROM version the WLAN supporting applications are available but I still cannot activate WLAN.

Moreover I don't know whether the WLAN hardware is really missing (as stated in a previous post of this thread) or is another type of adjustment that can be solved on the software/firmware level.

Any chance to have a prove that hardware is missing without opening the case of the Touch and look inside?

Cheers!

[zelmasri]

I am have having problems with my HTC touch.
I bought it in Hong Kong for use in China (Beijing), where I was assured it would be fine.

Although it does not have China as an option on the Network Wizard it accepts my China Mobile sim and shows I have reception.
However it rarely me to make calls or send messages even when I have signal and often loses the signal and goes to searching for network, only occasionaly will a call connect, despite having full signal.

What can I do, do I need to change something in the conection settings, can someone please give me a thorough explanation.
If i put my sim in my old crappy Nokia it works fine, why am i having these problems

Thanks

[backslam]

Hi,

I am planning to buy a HTC Touch with English OS from China. But the technician told me that even with a CE-STAR, the English OS set still cannot display chinese documents correctly. A Chinese OS need to be added.

My question is :
1.) How to install another Chinese OS on an English OS ?
2.) After install Chinese OS, is it all the platform will become Chinese Displayed which is same as Chinese OS version ?
3.) Does it still support English Version's software ?

Seeking for your kind helping hands ...

Thank you.

[AntonySubb]

Too buy Dopod S1 in Beijing.
Has stitched RUU_Elfin_DOPODASIA_WWE_2.20.707.1R_4.1.13.51_03.0 7.90_RED_Ship_Reduced.
There is a problem with WIFI even after insertion replacement.:confused:

[AntonySubb]

Has found interesting article on this problem.
This decision can?

http://phone.chinamobile.com/news/3296.asp original china.

http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fphone.chinamobile.com%2Fn ews%2F3296.asp&langpair=zh%7Cen&hl=ru&ie=UTF8 translate english.

[Pacote-san]

I have a HTC TOUCH from china

it does not have DOPOD write on the front but i have NO WIFI option

if i upload the wifi shortcut when i use it i get the network card options

is possible for me to flash a new rom and enable wi-fi or im totally fucked?

[]s

[julyclyde]

If you use dopod S1's ROM, you lose the WiFi button in CommManager.
use a "S1-wifi_0.1_DLEO.CAB" patch to fix it.

[DroidDotBot]

elf - UK orange PAYG- sold as 'touch' in white ("limited edition":D)

[hi guys/dolls, revisit due too elf'in issues -

""do I return the 'phone' as a sub-standard phone- ,
or do I fix, it's rom, in-validating it's 14day ""GAURENTEE""

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window mobile (uk) - don't know it as touch(gsm) {go surf yourself!!!}

orange.co.uk - don't know its as touch(gsm) {go surf yourself!!!}

h.t.c. (wanna B a tester) - shows 2 year old 'hotfixes' {blah!!}

wifi has an issue, hence the visit / so I have a dilemmma ????

issue is - via usb, can surf, but no activesync from/on xpprosp3 - (???)
. . . . . - via wifi, can sync(self from elf), & only surf , 'orange' or windows'live'

am I missing something, :confused:
or are orange withholding the wm6.1pro upgrade? [postcard only!!!] {win' mob' says "operator only"}

reaching for My B.A. :) . . . many thanks to the site's "runners/participants" my ba is better than the psp'value', almost a D.S.Lite;)

[DroidDotBot]

dont know why but - it's fixed

orange shop had a play (with no wi-fi 2 test it, and 10 mins to get google home page /uk) but now on wi-fi, I can surf, and without getting out a reel of usb extention leads. active sync also fully functional (mabey me - formatted some HDD's & spent 2.5 spare hours re-installing everything/?)

"they 'the sound fellows in the retail establishment' played around for a bit - with it, and hey presto!" - {a whisper of adult content block, was over heard }, wither they altered a setting or too, I don't know!

java games are still a pain-in-the rectum - 1 (count them = 1) softkey !!!! - HTC (what are you doing????:rolleyes:) [[get the " JBed Java " to suit your's - within' these here walls]]:D

onscreen keypad is bleeding awkward [one is passable, but that qw,er,ty, is a right royal pain], where's that nice one from the BA . . . :confused:

htcBA - needs a digitizer[just cosmetically] (dunno whitch? xda11s) [[get the JBed Java - within' these here walls]]

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