Internal GPS

[SultanH]

Does Anyone knows how to get the Internal GPS to work with Windows Live Map?
Thanks,

[samspoon]

gpsone isn't in standalone mode so it cannot be accessed by applications

[jaak3]

There are rumors that it'll be activated in the EVDO Rev A update this fall.

[aLdaRiS]

so wait... mogul has a gps?

[samspoon]

it's built into the qualcomm cpu like the kaiser. it's assumed the gps shares the cell antenna since there's no gps antenna on board and the documentation states this is possible. the kaiser has the 7200 the mogul has the 7500. kaiser w/ test rom allows for the gpsone to run in standalone mode and the kaiser seems to have an antenna so it works.

as of right now it's assumed gps will work when unlocked but it's still a gray area; there may or may not be an antenna

[dew.man]

The FCC application describes the Mogul as
"a CDMA850/CDMA1900 (1XEVDO / 1XRTT / IS-95A/B) Pocket PC Phone with wireless LAN, bluetooth, and GPS functions."

https://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/reports/ViewExhibitReport.cfm?mode=Exhibits&RequestTimeout=500&calledFromFrame=N&application_id=391628&fcc_id='NM8TITA100'

[samspoon]

the listing of gps functionality is ambiguous; all cellphones are required to have agps for e911 emergency in the usa as mandated by the fcc. gpsone is in quite a few htc devices but only a handful have antennas attached

[B18DelSolT]

how accurate is agps? versus standalone gps?

[Dishe]

someone on PPCgeeks reported that Live Search was working on Sprint Moguls using tower triangulation. I'm not sure if this is different than AGPS, but it sure it neat to have location based services, even if accurate only to a few hundred yards...

[TC1]

someone on PPCgeeks reported that Live Search was working on Sprint Moguls using tower triangulation. I'm not sure if this is different than AGPS, but it sure it neat to have location based services, even if accurate only to a few hundred yards...

A-GPS = tower assisted GPS.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assisted_GPS

[rkjunior]

i had my telenav rep confirm when the rev a patch is released that the GPS will be unlocked as well.

[Kasracer]

the listing of gps functionality is ambiguous; all cellphones are required to have agps for e911 emergency in the usa as mandated by the fcc. gpsone is in quite a few htc devices but only a handful have antennas attached
All cell phones certainly DO NOT have aGPS. Please do not confuse aGPS for tower triangulation.

aGPS is assisted GPS meaning it uses the cell phone towers to assist an existing GPS chipset.

So if the Mogul has aGPS, then it has to have GPS by definition.

[Madzilla]

he is right though. FCC does now require that ALL new phones in the united states have GPS (to an extent) for at least e911.

[Dishe]

A-GPS = tower assisted GPS.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assisted_GPS


Yes, I'm aware of the definition.

The way AGPS is described is similar to how articles are describing the technology Sprint and MS are using... and since every Sprint phone is mandated by the FCC to have 911 AGPS capabilities, I'm wondering if this is the same thing.

[sroussey]

as of right now it's assumed gps will work when unlocked but it's still a gray area; there may or may not be an antenna

The Kaiser has a big "GPS" on the back where you can hook up an external antenna. No such luck with the Mogul. :(

But I still can hope that _some_ kind of GPS would come with Rev.A. Sucky GPS is better than no GPS...

[Madzilla]

I think you guys know as well as I do, that even if the phone has a functional gps and a antenna sprint will still never unlock it. Its not that they dont want to, they are lazy. There have been lots of firmware "updates" I have been waiting for on other sprint phones that they were going to release and never did.

As for external GPS recievers what do you guys think of this one?
http://www.semsons.com/wo44chawaauo.html

That supports A-GPS you think that would work?

[defaultdotxbe]

I think you guys know as well as I do, that even if the phone has a functional gps and a antenna sprint will still never unlock it. Its not that they dont want to, they are lazy. There have been lots of firmware "updates" I have been waiting for on other sprint phones that they were going to release and never did.

As for external GPS recievers what do you guys think of this one?
http://www.semsons.com/wo44chawaauo.html

That supports A-GPS you think that would work?
if you are going to go with an external BT reciever any should work, since its not using the phones GPS at all

[AJerman]

If you want an external, get a Holux M-1200. Tiny, cheap, and works amazing. I love mine! :)

[Madzilla]

ok, so any external gps will work? some of them say A-GPS compatible and others dont. Does that matter at all?