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ampi
25-07-2007, 08:54 PM
Anyone has any experience using P3600 outside in strong sunlight?
I have a Qtek 9100 (Wizard) which is USELESS outside... :(

Planning to upgrade yo P3600, but if screen is still lousy, well..


So, please share your experiences!

/Ampi

maevro
25-07-2007, 09:26 PM
Every HTC phone I have encountered is worthless in direct sunlight. The only PPC I have seen that is semi-decent is the Treo 750 and that is far from perfect.

I would live to put some window tint or mirror tint on a screen protector and see if that works better.

ww2250
25-07-2007, 10:22 PM
It's really a royal pain to use it under direct sun light - combined with the fact that the dialpad lacks both visibility and tactile...

Would help if you find a shade above you or shield the phone with your body from the sunlight...

Rudegar
25-07-2007, 10:26 PM
same problem with laptops
and even old monitors using crt

nimnull
25-07-2007, 11:09 PM
But in the "pdadb.net" says: Display Type:color transflective TFT.
It means that this display should reflect sunlight, more or less, but it has to.
Or HTC tells us lie ?

PaulusUK
26-07-2007, 12:17 AM
The Trinity is crap in sunlight and even outside on bright overcast days.

You cant even shade it outside and have to get your self inside somewhere with low light levels.

It is very much not a summer phone, and really needs to be avoided if you spend a lot of time outside and need to use the phone

orientale
26-07-2007, 08:53 AM
Yes, the P3600 is absolutely useless in the sunshine, I think it's the only defect of Trinity.

nimnull
26-07-2007, 09:51 AM
You all want to say that other phones of HTC like P3300, P3350, P4550 - have different display and it mush, mush better ?
I wount believe - if HTC doesn't buy or make normal transflective display all of its products have same problems.

maevro
26-07-2007, 05:23 PM
You all want to say that other phones of HTC like P3300, P3350, P4550 - have different display and it mush, mush better ?
I wount believe - if HTC doesn't buy or make normal transflective display all of its products have same problems.

Huh? I said on top that every HTC phone is worthless in sunlight, except for the 750.

mesee
26-07-2007, 05:41 PM
Anyone has any experience using P3600 outside in strong sunlight?
I have a Qtek 9100 (Wizard) which is USELESS outside... :(

Planning to upgrade yo P3600, but if screen is still lousy, well..


So, please share your experiences!

/Ampi
no chance also i use exim ultra protect useless...with should reduce the reflections.. no effect :-(

nimnull
26-07-2007, 07:58 PM
OK.
If we start talk about sunlight and displays - what is the best. I tested Asus 525 - it is like SE 750 (but not like Nokia 6233 or E61 - super) for ex. What else - E-ten ?
If someone knows - tell us please.

The FD
26-07-2007, 09:09 PM
IMO all colour screen devices are rubbish in bright sunlight. By far the best device for bright sunshine is the old mono chrome device. Like the psion 5mx. Which is far better in bright sunshine than in low light. But it is a move backwards - one I doubt you will want to make!

kdx200
26-07-2007, 10:50 PM
i think that all you saying is true.... butttt one day i was really mad about the useless screen.. put it in the brighter level and now its ok!

Steven2420
28-07-2007, 04:52 AM
Gentlemen,

I use my Trinity outdoors all the time. I invested in what I consider to be the best screen protector on the planet. East to install, it blocks glare and UV rays.....it is worth every penny you pay for this! Link is at the bottom!


Screen Protector for HTC, QTEK and I-Mate
[IMATEQTEKSP] $8.50

iPDA Ultra Clear Screen Protector is made of first-grade imported material. It's so clear that it can greatly display original color. This top quality screen protector is non-sticky yet stays firmly on the screen and is designed to protect the screen of your device from wear and tear caused by your stylus - a superb investment as a replacement screen could cost a lot of money. Includes following features:



anti-glare
dust repelling
bubble free
fingerprint free
washable and reusable
improves handwriting recognition
reduces 99% of UV rays caused by reflected light, protects your eyes
protects sensitive screen protector against scratch

Comes with one screen protector, one cleaning cloth and one applicator.

This screen protector is compatible with the following I-Mate models:


JAM
JAMin
K-Jam

It is also compatible with the following QTEK models:


S100
S200
9100

It is also compatible with the following HTC models:


TyTN
P3300
P3600


http://egadgetdepot.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=27&products_id=47&osCsid=9de8a76d5b90eb6922e9a44f6a6aabcd

maevro
28-07-2007, 07:27 AM
Gentlemen,

I use my Trinity outdoors all the time. I invested in what I consider to be the best screen protector on the planet. East to install, it blocks glare and UV rays.....it is worth every penny you pay for this! Link is at the bottom!


Screen Protector for HTC, QTEK and I-Mate
[IMATEQTEKSP] $8.50

iPDA Ultra Clear Screen Protector is made of first-grade imported material. It's so clear that it can greatly display original color. This top quality screen protector is non-sticky yet stays firmly on the screen and is designed to protect the screen of your device from wear and tear caused by your stylus - a superb investment as a replacement screen could cost a lot of money. Includes following features:



anti-glare
dust repelling
bubble free
fingerprint free
washable and reusable
improves handwriting recognition
reduces 99% of UV rays caused by reflected light, protects your eyes
protects sensitive screen protector against scratch

Comes with one screen protector, one cleaning cloth and one applicator.

This screen protector is compatible with the following I-Mate models:


JAM
JAMin
K-Jam

It is also compatible with the following QTEK models:


S100
S200
9100

It is also compatible with the following HTC models:


TyTN
P3300
P3600


http://egadgetdepot.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=27&products_id=47&osCsid=9de8a76d5b90eb6922e9a44f6a6aabcd

I got my Trinity and screen protector from them and I really don't think this screen protector does anything more then any other one that I have tried.

Steven2420
29-07-2007, 09:12 AM
I got my Trinity and screen protector from them and I really don't think this screen protector does anything more then any other one that I have tried.

I respect your thoughts my friend. Each person sees a different benefit from different items! The important thing is....ENJOY YOUR TRINITY!!!!!

PaulusUK
30-07-2007, 01:00 AM
I have tried 3 different screeen protectors and they do not make any difference to daylight.

AFAIK, there is no product available which will help - the manufacturers do all they can with regards to coatings etc to aid visibility and build these onto the display.

All the screen protectors do is ...... protect the screen from scratches.

Adding any extra cover to the screen will by definition, reduce visibility and not increase it.

OLED or OPLED displays may have better characteristics for daylight, but the current display technology is the problem.

esziszi
30-07-2007, 08:11 PM
Hi all!

I am the happy user of a Trinity, and I subscribe to the opinion that in sunlight, the screen is bad. Actually, even at max brightness, it is almost black, unusable.

I can testify that there are better screens though: I had an HP 6340 (PDA-phone) before the Trinity, and its screen WAS transreflective. Actually, the brighter the sun was, the more readable the screen became (not under any angle, but most of the time). Now that I donated it to a colleague, when I see it sometimes, I admire its large and beautiful screen. I also played with my boss' Fujitsu-Siemens 720 (I think), and it is also very visible. By the way, the FS's screen is also VGA, looks way better. The Trinity's screen does not even compare, especially because the tapping also requires more force on the Trinity.
It is a phone, used outside, for crying out loud! Why can't they buy from the same manufacturer as HP does?

However, beside the poor screen and the peeling of the black paint, there is no better convergence device than the Trinity, in my opinion. Oh, and the RAM could be a tad more, I might add.

Baxter
30-07-2007, 08:57 PM
I use my Trinity outdoors all the time when I golf. No complaints here. I mapped VJLumosIII it to a button to switch to max brightness instantly.


http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=279365&highlight=vjlumosiii