Kaiser is coming ! [Archive]

hirenmistry

29-07-2007, 05:36 AM

check this

http://www.expansys.fr/p.aspx?i=151796

look at the screen ....????
looks great !!!
finaly , we will not need all those spb aps that slow down our machines

Should i leave my X7500 ???

I dont understand French, does it mention any launch date?

dussjp

30-07-2007, 11:18 AM

only for pre-ordering

gogol

30-07-2007, 05:18 PM

Will you buy this right away after it has been released? Or will you wait several weeks (remember Tytn allignment issue with it's first batch) ?

didio

31-07-2007, 06:07 AM

Will you buy this right away after it has been released? Or will you wait several weeks (remember Tytn allignment issue with it's first batch) ?

Haha, yes I remember it.. I still have a TyTN with that problem..

mikeeey

31-07-2007, 11:26 PM

check this

http://www.expansys.fr/p.aspx?i=151796

look at the screen ....????
looks great !!!
finaly , we will not need all those spb aps that slow down our machines

Should i leave my X7500 ???
i like the design of that kaiser. the buttons are so shiny!

hirenmistry

01-08-2007, 04:52 AM

Will you buy this right away after it has been released? Or will you wait several weeks (remember Tytn allignment issue with it's first batch) ?

Right away! I've been lusting after a PPC and this one ticks all the boxes. Was keen on buying the Trinity till my eyes fell on this beaut.

cheers

WASSAGO

01-08-2007, 08:59 AM

I like this phone but only bad thing about this phone is heavy 192 grams...:D

mikeeey

01-08-2007, 09:01 AM

I like this phone but only bad thing about this phone is heavy 192 grams...:D
o well, youl be holding it with 2 hands with the keyboard out, im sure itl be fine. besides, you dont want something thats so light itl slip out of your hands too easily, believe me, it happens.

WASSAGO

01-08-2007, 09:06 AM

o well, youl be holding it with 2 hands with the keyboard out, im sure itl be fine. besides, you dont want something thats so light itl slip out of your hands too easily, believe me, it happens.

lol of course I can handle it..I have nokia N91 it's heavy also 162 gr but this one is 30 gram heavyer then it... and now on ebay there is only one kaiser is left :) here is the link I saw 4 of them before..But all sold out....I'll wait 21 more days :) After than I'll get one
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=130139042077&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=003

pititfilou

02-08-2007, 02:00 PM

794,95€ ?

Ouch oO !

mikeeey

03-08-2007, 12:28 AM

lol of course I can handle it..I have nokia N91 it's heavy also 162 gr but this one is 30 gram heavyer then it... and now on ebay there is only one kaiser is left :) here is the link I saw 4 of them before..But all sold out....I'll wait 21 more days :) After than I'll get one
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=130139042077&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=003
21 more days. but do you know for sure if it comes out on august 22nd? it may be mid september.

mikeeey

03-08-2007, 12:46 AM

794,95€ ?

Ouch oO !

$780.00, not pounds.

macosx86

03-08-2007, 10:35 AM

$780.00, not pounds.

€=EUROS NOT POUNDS...

sherpa

03-08-2007, 01:25 PM

I have no moolah to burn right now but I definitely want this. I guess I will have to wait till Christmas! :)

mikeeey

04-08-2007, 09:01 AM

€=EUROS NOT POUNDS...
o lol i thought it was the same. Im from the US so i wouldnt know.

fmg9800

04-08-2007, 02:41 PM

o lol i thought it was the same. Im from the US so i wouldnt know.

I trust you are kidding. If not, hey it's a global economy. Better get up to speed.

bouaroudj

04-08-2007, 08:50 PM

http://www.expansys.fr/p.aspx?i=154157

mikeeey

04-08-2007, 09:42 PM

I trust you are kidding. If not, hey it's a global economy. Better get up to speed.

afraid not. again im from the US.
I had goten Pounds £ and Euro € mixed up.

Mr.Clark

06-08-2007, 11:48 AM

afraid not. again im from the US.
I had goten Pounds £ and Euro € mixed up.

Right. Yet we manage to not get US dollars ($), Canadian dollars ($), Australian dollars ($) (and so on and so forth) mixed up.

They're different symbols, it's not exactly rocket science!

Mind you, don't the Yanks call the hash (#) a "pound" symbol?

devis

06-08-2007, 07:48 PM

Mind you, don't the Yanks call the hash (#) a "pound" symbol?

Yea they (we I guess since I live here too) do. But I'd rather call it TicTacToe :)

Madcap180

06-08-2007, 08:02 PM

yep .. # = pound.

mikeeey

07-08-2007, 03:34 AM

Right. Yet we manage to not get US dollars ($), Canadian dollars ($), Australian dollars ($) (and so on and so forth) mixed up.

They're different symbols, it's not exactly rocket science!

Mind you, don't the Yanks call the hash (#) a "pound" symbol?

keep in mind, i only had 2 currency's confused, not a whole lot.
yep we call it the pound symbol.

Mr.Clark

07-08-2007, 11:46 AM

keep in mind, i only had 2 currency's confused, not a whole lot.
yep we call it the pound symbol.

I'm just teasing... ;)

Doesn't it get confusing if you've got the £ pound and the # pound though?

(the Euro is easy... € looks like an E)

That said, I guess the default font for the UK pound sign looks a bit like an E... it doesn't when I draw it though :D

ww2250

07-08-2007, 12:21 PM

I like this phone but only bad thing about this phone is heavy 192 grams...:D

It's strange that the initial source on web says it's 160g. Now some new sources said it's 192g.

I found a rather new blog saying it's 160g and said it's being renamed to tytn II.

See
http://www.tracyandmatt.co.uk/blogs/index.php/2007/08/07/htc_tytn_ii_p4550_kaiser_rebrands

abubasim

07-08-2007, 02:06 PM

Now when the Qualcomm ban in the US seems to be coming into effect, will you US Kaiser customers be able to order from abroad for personal use or will these also be confiscated by the customs?

Edit: Maybe this doesn't affect HTC (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/08/07/qualcomm_ban_remains/):
Asian manufacturers in possession of the latest Qualcomm chips are saying they've worked around the patent problems, so should be able to ship phones to the US very soon despite the ban.

ww2250

07-08-2007, 10:37 PM

Edit: Maybe this doesn't affect HTC (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/08/07/qualcomm_ban_remains/):
Asian manufacturers in possession of the latest Qualcomm chips are saying they've worked around the patent problems, so should be able to ship phones to the US very soon despite the ban.

The patent in question is one that concerns about power saving features inside the Qualcomm chip. Let's hope that it won't be a battery drainer, after the patent has been "worked around".

Dracon

08-08-2007, 01:34 AM

mikeeey

08-08-2007, 01:46 AM

I'm just teasing... ;)

Doesn't it get confusing if you've got the £ pound and the # pound though?

(the Euro is easy... € looks like an E)

That said, I guess the default font for the UK pound sign looks a bit like an E... it doesn't when I draw it though :D

yea i would say that the pound looks more like an E than the Euro does. atleast in computer font.

The ban only affects phones that have not already been imported into the US. Since the phone has been imported and approved by the FCC shouldn't this mean the ban does not apply to the Kaiser? I might be wrong, but hoping I'm not.

I hope so! that does make sense tho.

ahfunaki

09-08-2007, 06:43 AM

I can't wait to get this phone...

ww2250

09-08-2007, 11:36 AM

The ban only affects phones that have not already been imported into the US. Since the phone has been imported and approved by the FCC shouldn't this mean the ban does not apply to the Kaiser? I might be wrong, but hoping I'm not.

I wish you are right - but my understanding is that an approval from FCC doesn't grant you the right to import it automatically - especially it's banned by the court. FCC only regulates the air wave - i.e. tell you that it's safe to use, without interference, blah blah blah.

Most likely the Qualcomm chip won't be made in US, so it must be imported by some means. Unless HTC had already imported many such chips into the US months ago, which is again, highly unlikely for such a new chip. Not to mention that the assembly of the phone won't happen inside US as well.

I guess the only 2 possible solution for HTC is, per the article suggests, "worked around" the patent, either by disabling the feature in question, or by implement in a patent-free way (which is rather unlikely since it affects re-doing the chip design, and thus affecting the launch date with huge cost involved). The other solution is that they pay the patent royalty to Broadcom. Looks like it will come from both yours and my wallet :D

Dracon

10-08-2007, 09:49 PM

I agree that a FCC approval doesn't grant the right to import, but the way I read the ruling was to ban any phone that has not yet been imported. Since the phone had to be imported for testing and this occured prior to the ban going into affect, it should not apply to the Kaiser. I know this is a fine line but hey, if they want to stick to the letter of the law, I would think this might be a way around the ban. Another way around would be to disable the offending features in software then release a patch to reinable the features.

aublumberg

11-08-2007, 05:52 AM

Another Kaiser review here ...

http://www.trustedreviews.com/mobile-devices/review/2007/08/10/HTC-P4550-Kaiser-Smartphone/p1

There have been quite a few different bits of info on the weight of the device ... this one states "First, it's gone on a bit of a diet, as a quick comparison of the dimensions reveals. At 110 x 58 x 18mm it's now 4mm thinner and 2.5mm shorter than its predecessor and is also 16g lighter at 160g" ...

3waygeek

11-08-2007, 11:27 AM

The weight's a bit off, according to Paul's review over at Modaco. He's had a Kaiser for several weeks, and his weighs 192g with SIM and MicroSD. No way a SIM & memory card weigh 32g, no matter how much data you put on them.

aublumberg

11-08-2007, 03:07 PM

GordonTGopher

11-08-2007, 04:37 PM

Yep ... so the question is - which one is right?

Well Paul has actually weighed his I understand, Most sites have just quoted data sheets, which maybe outdated or possibly based on phone without battery.

I'd go with Paul being right, if he's wrong then it's a bonus!

xxnoelziexx

11-08-2007, 10:02 PM

I can assure you Paul at Modaco is correct.

ww2250

12-08-2007, 06:05 PM

I can assure you Paul at Modaco is correct.

Oh, that's really devastating - at least to my dream. Sigh... way too heavy, if that's correct.

moparman

12-08-2007, 06:40 PM

Hm..If 190g is to heavy maybe its time to start lift som weights heh :-)

tuncayt

12-08-2007, 10:13 PM

if include battery 190g if not 160 g:rolleyes:

Achnaton

15-08-2007, 11:34 AM

Today i spoke to a guy from Vodafone Netherlands @ a Vodafone shop. He told me that he's seen the V1615 presentation cards for in the showroom.
He wasn't certain but expects the first delivery beginning September!
Let's hope hes right!
I can't wait!

mo7al

15-08-2007, 12:34 PM

Mobileplanet.com (USA branch of Expansys) just raised the pre-order price of the Kaiser to $950..... is it greediness or what ?

http://www.mobileplanet.com/p.aspx?i=151727

McHale

15-08-2007, 05:18 PM

this is why I no longer order from Mobile Planet / Expansys.

MMB and others will be getting this and are always cheaper.

-Mc

devis

15-08-2007, 07:53 PM

Yea I used to like them too... now they just plain suck.

PhilipL

15-08-2007, 08:36 PM

Hi

Clove.co.uk has said they expect deliveries first week of September. Bringing together the various expected dates and that the FCC were asked to withhold product images, internal pictures and specifications of the Kaiser from the public until the 10 September, point to the first half of that month.

The actual day is probably decided by when the boat arrives in with the shipment :)

Regards

Phil

devis

15-08-2007, 08:59 PM

The actual day is probably decided by when the boat arrives in with the shipment :)

Regards

Phil

Well, if you know the shipping line, I can tell you when that boat will come :)
I used to work as a ship agent and I have a few friends who can get that info for me. However based on my previous experience it'll either be Hapag Lloyd, NYK or Wan Hai. Yea... I know a lot of useless crap :)

BrendanO

15-08-2007, 09:28 PM

Just received this...

"The HIGHLY ANTICIPATED ‘HTC Kaiser’ or ‘HTC P4550’ as it is also known, has now a confirmed delivery date of the 12th September.

http://www.superetrader.co.uk/s_4550

We have a number of preorders already. These orders will be the 1st orders to be shipped when stock arrives. We are still taking preorders for this unit, but anticipate stock will sell out very quickly and advise all customers interested in this item to place their orders as soon as possible. We do not envisage any outstanding stock being made available to the website.

We will send all customers who asked to be informed when the item is ‘back in stock’ another email when stock has arrived.

Regards,

Richard Adamson
SuperGPS.co.uk"

zetajunkie

16-08-2007, 12:23 AM

http://crunchgear.com/2007/08/09/breaking-att-tilt-price-and-launch-date-leaked/

$499 with 2 year contract.
early september.

Antal

16-08-2007, 10:02 AM

Expansys has just updated their expected delivery to;
Monday Sept 17!!!!!

Even longer to wait, seems forever allready

BrigateGB

17-08-2007, 09:23 AM

expansys change the delivery date, now it is suppose to be at 17th September..

coffeevictim

17-08-2007, 03:42 PM

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alfa

17-08-2007, 07:00 PM

on the Belgium expansys site it was the 17 sep but now it is back the 5 sep!
maybe good news

BrigateGB

18-08-2007, 08:44 AM

Well Italian Relase date is 17th September and EU version (English) is 5th September so i found...
I was asked form expensys wich version i wanna buy, They told me both version will be aviable at the same time but it wasn´t right as i suppose...
I think EU version it more intresting becuase everytime HTC relase an upgrade it`s arrive faster on EU and then lately on DE IT and so on...
I cancell my order waiting the WONDER HTC SHIFT...
Now i am using (well it is back to Nokia Factory for Hardware fault) E90 and i really disapponit with this device... Symbian is a esaier way to go into smartphone market but you can find just 1/100 of all programm you find for Windows Mobile...
Great point of the E90 it the woder Dispaly... You can see an entire web page and not just a small part, like on a normal PC...
Si i really don`t know Guys... Keep my E90, order a new Kaiser or waiting a SHIFT?!?! This is the question!!!