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salahnajm
20th October 2007, 12:26 AM
Now i dont know if Tene reads these requests and actually responds..im not as active on here..i was wonder if he could incorporate the call button to actually dial the contact when u scroll and select a contact you would like to call..when i push the call button it takes me to the dial pad..just a thought for the updated version..it would really help

to call just tap and hold the contact... much easier ;)

sirgawain123
20th October 2007, 05:43 PM
It certainly won't be in next version, however, for sound, the main issue for me is to get the sound. Maybe you can elaborate and provide some sound sample?

My wife has got a new HTC Touch, so she has native scrolling in MS contacts.

IŽve showed her TeneŽs PCM application, which i run on my Artemis, trying to get her to use it instead of the Microsoft dull aplication.

Her answer: "While it looks good, iŽll have to think twice about it, because i like the sound of scrolling i get in my Touch"

Go figure!!

I thought it was a no brainer decission going from MS contacts to TeneŽs, but she is missing the sound!

uniqueboy
21st October 2007, 05:41 PM
It certainly won't be in next version, however, for sound, the main issue for me is to get the sound. Maybe you can elaborate and provide some sound sample?
I found this file on my hd somewhere I really would not use any of them but just as examples. It can't be hard to find some great noises, I bet loads of people who read this could make a nice sound file, something like wizbar uses that pcm would just point to when performing certain actions. Clicking while scrolling, or drum taps to buttons, I think it could enhance the experience by providing positive feedback to the user.

Gustopher
21st October 2007, 07:04 PM
I found this file on my hd somewhere I really would not use any of them but just as examples. It can't be hard to find some great noises, I bet loads of people who read this could make a nice sound file, something like wizbar uses that pcm would just point to when performing certain actions. Clicking while scrolling, or drum taps to buttons, I think it could enhance the experience by providing positive feedback to the user.

In my view adding sound adds precisely nothing to this app. The first thing I do when installing a new ROM or when configuring a new device is to turn off all sounds but the alarms. I know what buttons I have pressed and what actions I am taking so why have a sound effect?

I can walk around, drive my car, eat, drink and undertake all the other functions of like without needing sound effects (sound effects during sex is an interesting thought though!), so I think I can cope without them when using my PPC.

And perhaps the fact that folks are struggling to come up with appropriate sound effects tells us all we need to know...!

Marcos200
21st October 2007, 08:11 PM
i am very happy whid the Suberb PocketCM, very complete software.

But i use a lot the call history, and pocketCM dont have.

Tene,

is a good idea put scrolling call history in your great application.;)


thanks for the hard and good work.

Anth
24th October 2007, 03:18 AM
hi tene

I wonder why don't have anyone noticed/ point out a bug on v15? or my BA's issue?

When I used SMS at the "Chating" alike screen, and clicked the "hidden close botton", PCM will minimized right?

But, once I called up PCM again, the application will loaded me into SMS username scrolling page(instead of the chatting screen), and at the same time, the Input filed will shows on the scroling page as well (blocking the 4 icons below).

Anth

d12ew
25th October 2007, 07:32 AM
question... why i cannot see the close button or hide button? i cannot see the option button too... so i can't change teh colour theme or something else.. please help.... thx...

tomazez
25th October 2007, 07:51 AM
question... why i cannot see the close button or hide button? i cannot see the option button too... so i can't change teh colour theme or something else.. please help.... thx...

becuz you need to tap and hold the phone button for 250 msecond, gooosh nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooob!
lol

iggy
25th October 2007, 12:02 PM
Hello Tene, title and first page shows updated today but I don't see any new version or any new info.?? or am I just to fast on the draw.

tomazez
25th October 2007, 12:54 PM
Hello Tene, title and first page shows updated today but I don't see any new version or any new info.?? or am I just to fast on the draw.

dude, wtf? 9/26, we are living in 10/25
haha

uniqueboy
25th October 2007, 01:02 PM
A month between updates is an age by tenes standards, maybe it's gonna be a big one.

Cobra2
25th October 2007, 01:42 PM
A month between updates is an age by tenes standards, maybe it's gonna be a big one.

try read here :)

What to expect from next release? (http://pocketcm.com/phorum/read.php?8,6166)

megaman
25th October 2007, 01:46 PM
Sorry to post this but with 127 pages, this thread is really too long to read !!

Is there a way to post a tutorial ?

For example, I didn't find how to add favortites ?

Thanks for every one...

Cobra2
25th October 2007, 03:08 PM
Sorry to post this but with 127 pages, this thread is really too long to read !!

Is there a way to post a tutorial ?

For example, I didn't find how to add favortites ?

Thanks for every one...

Hi

U can do that by press on the desired name u want to add 2 favorit list, then press on the name (top) there u'll have an option to add to favorit, add pic., remove contact etc. ect.

Hope this will get u goin :)

tomazez
25th October 2007, 03:09 PM
Sorry to post this but with 127 pages, this thread is really too long to read !!

Is there a way to post a tutorial ?

For example, I didn't find how to add favortites ?

Thanks for every one...

dude, just click at the menu of your contact on add as favorite,
IS EVERYONE RETARDED HERE OR SOMETHING???:confused: :confused:
lol

megaman
25th October 2007, 03:18 PM
Thanks Cobra2 !!!!

@tomazez:
I'm not so RETARDED I think... I hope...
I try to post noobs questions only if i don't find by myself...


MegaMan

iggy
25th October 2007, 08:45 PM
dude, wtf? 9/26, we are living in 10/25
haha


d**m, thats what happens when you wait daily for an update

iggy
25th October 2007, 08:48 PM
dude, just click at the menu of your contact on add as favorite,
IS EVERYONE RETARDED HERE OR SOMETHING???:confused: :confused:
lol

Dude try to be a bit more constructive with your comments, check this link to Tene's website for FAQs and HowTo's http://www.pocketcm.com/faq.php

arty
25th October 2007, 10:53 PM
how can i use pocketcm as my default sms manager? i.e. when i wanna write a new sms through a " new sms" shortcut?

TorxT3D
29th October 2007, 10:09 AM
i posted this at ppcgeeks, just thought id mention it here if it hasnt been mentioned already.. i love the app but one thing just annoys me

i just do not like the way the later releases make you go through hoops just to properly close the app.

you gotta hold down the phone button, try to slide your finger to the X without lifting the finger or else the app minimizes.. please look into this

i wish the developer would bring back the original way, press phone, press X without having to do any finger slide motions just to keep the panel up.. i find this EXTREMELY annoying.

tene
29th October 2007, 11:03 AM
i posted this at ppcgeeks, just thought id mention it here if it hasnt been mentioned already.. i love the app but one thing just annoys me

i just do not like the way the later releases make you go through hoops just to properly close the app.

you gotta hold down the phone button, try to slide your finger to the X without lifting the finger or else the app minimizes.. please look into this

i wish the developer would bring back the original way, press phone, press X without having to do any finger slide motions just to keep the panel up.. i find this EXTREMELY annoying.

please read that completely: http://pocketcm.com/phorum/read.php?8,174

ps: I don't read ppcgeeks or other forum regularly.

TorxT3D
29th October 2007, 02:55 PM
sorry i didnt see a setting i can adjust, only adjustments for scrolling speeds

tene
29th October 2007, 03:05 PM
sorry i didnt see a setting i can adjust, only adjustments for scrolling speeds

read better ;)

(it appeared in 0.14)

tene
30th October 2007, 11:48 PM
For those interrest in what's happening next:

http://pocketcm.com/phorum/read.php?18,6363

itzwolf
31st October 2007, 12:50 PM
Just finished reading your forum, excited to see the new release once its ready.

c_shekhar
2nd November 2007, 07:38 PM
# formatting use the tag listed a the end of the post
# you put any text you want, except:
#
# \n will become breakline
# any tag will be replaced by it's value (or empty string).
#
# for instance: contact_list_first_line=%phone
# will display phone number instead of names.
#
#

copy paste from the post I send you. What's not clear here? tell me so I can enhance it.
in ver .15 it does not work.
contact_list_second_line=%mobilephone,%homephone
does not work.
I have even tried contact_secondline_formatting=%mobilephone,%homeph one
But this also does not work. Where am I going wrong?

tene
2nd November 2007, 08:31 PM
in ver .15 it does not work.
contact_list_second_line=%mobilephone,%homephone
does not work.
I have even tried contact_secondline_formatting=%mobilephone,%homeph one
But this also does not work. Where am I going wrong?

what if you remove contact.cache before? (or wait until the contact are loaded from outlook)

c_shekhar
3rd November 2007, 05:02 AM
what if you remove contact.cache before? (or wait until the contact are loaded from outlook)

Thanks a lot. The completely closing the pocketCM--> delete the contact.cache-->restarting helped.

Thanks once again. I am liking the application very much..

Now sone development issues as follows

I have following suggestions to make:-

There is contact_title_box=n1,n1,n3,n4 OK. But requirement is felt to align the text in this box left/reght/center. by default it is center aligned. Because if the header is big enough then it gets chopped off from begining as well as end in present case. Whereas if I align it to left then at least begining part can be properly displayed and the chopping (truncation) takes place towards the end.
When I keep pressed the phone butoon for >250ms then another menu stips pops up which has 4 buttons called oldContacts, options, Close, minimise. By default the minimise button is focused. When I wish to move to the option button or oldcontact button I have to slide-pass over the close button to reach there. And in case the continuity of sliding breaks by chance then the close action takes place and the program gets closed. It is suggested that the close button should be at the left most end as it is required to be pressed least. According to me the sequence should be (from left to right) close, oldcontact, option, minimise.


May be @tene would like to give it some thought... thanks once again..regards..c-shekhar

tene
3rd November 2007, 10:20 AM
Thanks a lot. The completely closing the pocketCM--> delete the contact.cache-->restarting helped.

Thanks once again. I am liking the application very much..

Now sone development issues as follows

I have following suggestions to make:-

There is contact_title_box=n1,n1,n3,n4 OK. But requirement is felt to align the text in this box left/reght/center. by default it is center aligned. Because if the header is big enough then it gets chopped off from begining as well as end in present case. Whereas if I align it to left then at least begining part can be properly displayed and the chopping (truncation) takes place towards the end.
When I keep pressed the phone butoon for >250ms then another menu stips pops up which has 4 buttons called oldContacts, options, Close, minimise. By default the minimise button is focused. When I wish to move to the option button or oldcontact button I have to slide-pass over the close button to reach there. And in case the continuity of sliding breaks by chance then the close action takes place and the program gets closed. It is suggested that the close button should be at the left most end as it is required to be pressed least. According to me the sequence should be (from left to right) close, oldcontact, option, minimise.


May be @tene would like to give it some thought... thanks once again..regards..c-shekhar

I invite you to read: http://pocketcm.com/phorum/read.php?18,6363

z0d1ak
3rd November 2007, 08:07 PM
hey man great application but i wud need the support for universal i have installed the vga theme but the screen is currupted while scrolling showing thin threads aross my screen althou the programe is working but for my jasjar resolution its not matchin up to ! any upgrade of the same in line that wud make it work ?? i really liked the concept n work thou

anheuer
5th November 2007, 01:30 PM
how can i make it less "pushy"

because its there when ever i close an app...

i alwasy have it minimized so when i get a sms it will show it in pcm..
but every time i have an app open and i close or minimize it..
pcm is there on the screen..

then i minimize it again,
and if i have another app to close,
then pcm will be there on the screen again!

any solution?

aih1977
6th November 2007, 02:59 PM
tene,
is there way to make pcm sms to be default are can you make on your next update.

thanks!

barrytytnii
12th November 2007, 10:51 PM
tene,

I just installed 0.16 on my TyTn II and I'm loving it really! My knowledge about software programming is fairly limited but I appreicate huge amount of effort you're putting into this project! Uber Kudo points man!

As everyone else, I have a few suggestions for the development, some I find more important than others.

1. An option to disable the soft keyboard when in landscape mode would great and real improvement. My TyTN II has a full querty keyboard which slides out when in landscape mode so when composing an sms, the soft keyboard still appears and is quite annoying because it is not necessary, especially since the space could be used to show multiple lines of the message or the message you're replying to rather than just a single line.

In portait mode, the single line entry field is also not very convenient for longer messages. Seems like the font size of the message being composed could be smaller to make more room for multiple lines, perhaps integrate a separate scroll feature in the compose area?

2. When using the phone keypad to search for specific contacts, the only way to view all the contacts again is to click on sms or favorites and then "all" again. Perhaps a button to clear the search field or a single click back to "all" would be better

3. The Back button when viewing a contacts details is not well aligned. It looks like 3ack because its too far to the left. If it helps my screen res is 240x320

4. By default, any physical address I enter without the country is by default United States of America, as I live in the Netherlands, this isn't the case but I see no way of disabling or changing this to another country or just having the address shown as entered.

5. An option to change the colors of the sms threading feature would be nice, the current colors in the black these are kind of depressing

6. when viewing contact details, perhaps set it so that if an image is availble for a contact, just show the image and not the box outline like for those contacts that don't have an image attached to their name.

Well,those are my suggestions and fixes, I hope you take them as they are and that you give me your feedback to them as well as I really do think this is simply nothing short of great work! You can definitly expect a donation for your effort!

Thanks again

Barry from the Netherlands!

EDIT: just found out how I can change the theme and edit colors and positions of certain elements, so I guess a fix/change isn't really necessary for some of my suggestions ;)

iggy
12th November 2007, 11:00 PM
FYI Barry, you posted in the wrong thread, might be better to repost in the PCM .16 thread

barrytytnii
12th November 2007, 11:35 PM
thanks for the heads up :)

got a link maybe?

MynticeLX
15th November 2007, 08:36 PM
Is it possible to disable the SMS/txt messaging portion of the application? It automatically pops up every time I get a text, but I would prefer to use it JUST as a contact software and not a txt msging software.

andrebe
15th November 2007, 08:53 PM
Is it possible to disable the SMS/txt messaging portion of the application? It automatically pops up every time I get a text, but I would prefer to use it JUST as a contact software and not a txt msging software.

Hi all,
I'm having compatibility problem on pocketcm 0.15 and HTC touch keyboard .Is it possible for you to investigate?
thanks

tene
15th November 2007, 09:51 PM
Hi all,
I'm having compatibility problem on pocketcm 0.15 and HTC touch keyboard .Is it possible for you to investigate?
thanks

where can I find this keyboard?

andrebe
15th November 2007, 09:58 PM
where can I find this keyboard?

here you go

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=344533

cheers

Nighthawk2050
15th November 2007, 10:02 PM
I have a major compatability problem between

PocketCM Contact v0.15 and S2U2 v0.83.

If I come out of slide-to-unlock mode, then PocketCM now appears and bleeds through the Pocket PC home screen briefly (3-10 seconds) before returning the user back to the home screen. This does not happen with

PocketCM Contact v0.11b and S2U2 v0.81

but will still happen if I use Pocket CM Contact v0.15 and S2U2 v0.81. It suggests it is something to do with either S2U2 or PocketCM (?), but since only PCM15 and S2U20.83 are the most recent versions, could you guys not try work together to fix this recent bug? I have gone back to using:

PocketCM Contact v0.11b and S2U2 v0.81 now as these are stable and bug free.

Oh I forgot to mention that PocketCM v0.16. and S2U2 v0.83 over time also crash as in reboots my Pocket PC when coming out of slide to unlock mode. Also, in addition, everytime 0.83 goes into lock mode, and it is attached to my laptop, it then kicks activesync off and disconnects from my laptop - very annoying. Hence, I have no problems with

PocketCM Contact v0.11b and S2U2 v0.81

Hawk

See here:

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1668168#post1668168

freeyayo50
18th November 2007, 03:46 PM
Im having issues with typing a message with v0.16. Everytime I tap in the space to start typing a SMS, the keyboard pops up. Even when I am in landscape it pops up and I cannot get rid of it. It will always show "Show SIP" whether the keyboard is showing or not.
Also, while the keyboard is showing I cannot send the message. I have to close the keyboard somehow, than I can press the Send button.

copper rs
18th November 2007, 06:43 PM
Hi all,
I'm having compatibility problem on pocketcm 0.15 and HTC touch keyboard .Is it possible for you to investigate?
thanks

Having issues with this on my touch as well. The bottom of the keyboard is cut off, losing functionality of necessary keys like space bar. really can't use this software with this keyboard unfortunately.

boe
19th November 2007, 04:02 AM
Hello,

I am giving PocketCM a try but can't figure out what I need to change to make it the default text message app for SPB Pocket Plus. When I installed the Palm threaded app, it opened when I selected text messages under the SPB phone Suite app which has an indicator for text messages. However I uninstalled palm threaded app and installed the PocketCM. The Pocket CM does not open when I select the icon for text messages - it opens the default Windows text message app.

I have made all the reg changes suggested in the PocketCM Faq.

boe
19th November 2007, 08:42 PM
No luck so far finding out how to set an app as the default SMS app - I'll let you know if I find anything out.

hoankhang000
24th November 2007, 02:54 AM
can some one change this iphone theme to theme.cmt file for me? thanks59300

wizzzard
24th November 2007, 03:11 AM
can some one change this iphone theme to theme.cmt file for me? thanks59300

Just rename the file, changing the extension from .zip to .cmt

anheuer
26th November 2007, 08:32 AM
it does not support Happy Tappin Keyboard..
Same thing with the 0.16 version

zedzeo
27th November 2007, 04:23 PM
Hi,
I'm having issues with pushing email on sprint mobile mail. sprint sends text messages from the number 9114 to my phone to activate the mailbox syncing. In pocketcm the text messages show up as a new "<unknown>" contact. Is there a way to have pocketcm ignore these messages? I'm running 0.15

Thanks!
Farhan

spinedoc
30th November 2007, 01:07 PM
So many issues with the SMS. Tene if you can't separate the SMS program from the contacts program, can you at least put in an option to turn it off? This is the one thing that keeps me from being fully happy, I have too many headaches with the SMS program.

MillerTyme
30th November 2007, 01:23 PM
So many issues with the SMS. Tene if you can't separate the SMS program from the contacts program, can you at least put in an option to turn it off? This is the one thing that keeps me from being fully happy, I have too many headaches with the SMS program.

i actually agree with this, i love the program, and i have an older version installed but i am in no rush to upgrade b/c i use and love the palm threaded sms.

tene
30th November 2007, 01:37 PM
So many issues with the SMS. Tene if you can't separate the SMS program from the contacts program, can you at least put in an option to turn it off? This is the one thing that keeps me from being fully happy, I have too many headaches with the SMS program.

what exactly are those issues? if you're using palm sms threader, then simply don't use SMS in pcm contact.

spinedoc
30th November 2007, 01:44 PM
what exactly are those issues? if you're using palm sms threader, then simply don't use SMS in pcm contact.

I've repeated my issues with the SMS several times on these forums. My issues are in addition to the issues others are reporting though. Just a toggle or option to turn them off would help greatly, it would make a great program that much better.

spinedoc
30th November 2007, 01:47 PM
How can you change font sizes in .16? My settings.ini is empty, I tried adding a command for font size, but it does not work. The font is tiny.

tene
30th November 2007, 02:18 PM
I've repeated my issues with the SMS several times on these forums. My issues are in addition to the issues others are reporting though. Just a toggle or option to turn them off would help greatly, it would make a great program that much better.

Well, that won't make it any better. By rereading all your post, the only issue I really see is the fact that pcm use the mobile number for SMS, and not reply to the last SMS. It works 100% for people with one cellphone, and for people with more than one cell phone, I've added the option to select the number. You have to remember there is a design choice here: replying to the last SMS will not match 100% of users, as sending using the cell phone will not match 100% of the users.

All your other post are about splitting the SMS part, which have been lenghtly discussed.

Also on pocketcm.com forum there is a very interresting thread about disabling SMS: I've simply ask how they see pocketcm without SMS, nobody provided a complete or realistic answer.

The way I see it, is more integration between SMS, contact and phone history, for me that's the way to get added value, I clearly imagine this won't be a match for 100% of the people, and the good news is that you're not forced to use it, there are lot of other contact applications out there. Also as discussed in lot of post, separating the programs has a (big) cost, if it happens one day, it's not the right time to do it.

And last point: PocketCM can be customized, your request like hiding the bottom button can be done through, however you'll obviously lose functionality. I encourage you to have a look, and test it.

ps: for changing setting for 0.16, please read: http://www.pocketcm.com/customize-contact.php

spinedoc
30th November 2007, 07:36 PM
you're not forced to use it, there are lot of other contact applications out there.

You know what, you are 100% correct. I looked around and did find a simple contacts slider program which works pretty darn good out of the wrapper. I switched to this program and am quite happy with the stability especially.

Keep up the good work, I'll have to look in from time to time to see where it goes.

spinedoc
30th November 2007, 07:46 PM
Themes don't seem to stick. I also put commands into the settings.ini file, but they don't change. Program gets more complex with each release, so I'm out.

killeredge
1st December 2007, 06:04 PM
im not able to change the theme! i followed the instructions, i held the phone button for 2.5 sec, and then slide left.. but its not working!

ilordvader
10th December 2007, 06:06 AM
Hello
Can anyone suggest which is a good
Pocket Conact Manager for a WM6 phone
I have a Tilt, if possible Post Link
cos there are soo many diff kinds
dont know which to get,
like 010, 0.15, 0.16, etc

Thankyou for your help

guimau31
10th December 2007, 08:57 AM
Hello, I own a MIO P350 WM5 and i'il searching the "old" version 0.10 which was working on non-phone PDA ? Is there anybody who still have it ? thanks

PS : sorry for my english !!! I'm just a frog

debonairone
10th December 2007, 12:30 PM
Hello
Can anyone suggest which is a good
Pocket Conact Manager for a WM6 phone
I have a Tilt, if possible Post Link
cos there are soo many diff kinds
dont know which to get,
like 010, 0.15, 0.16, etc

Thankyou for your help

Try the one that is still available first... V.15, you can get it HERE (http://pocketcm.com/beta.php), this is the last stable one that is still available on the developer's site, you can also download and try v.16 if you like, but I would recommend the v.15

dutchman71
10th December 2007, 02:54 PM
Themes don't seem to stick. I also put commands into the settings.ini file, but they don't change. Program gets more complex with each release, so I'm out.

I must admit, I loved this app, but it is becoming more than I want to handle... I liked the simple contact app...

spinedoc
10th December 2007, 03:26 PM
I've been using Vito's contact manager, it's not free but I am getting that falling in love feeling that I had back in the early days of PocketCM.

Hello
Can anyone suggest which is a good
Pocket Conact Manager for a WM6 phone
I have a Tilt, if possible Post Link
cos there are soo many diff kinds
dont know which to get,
like 010, 0.15, 0.16, etc

Thankyou for your help

ilordvader
10th December 2007, 05:04 PM
Try the one that is still available first... V.15, you can get it HERE (http://pocketcm.com/beta.php), this is the last stable one that is still available on the developer's site, you can also download and try v.16 if you like, but I would recommend the v.15

God Bless You
I tryed 0.16, but its just try mode like
But the 0.15 works fine :)
can we change it to colour ?

Thank you again for your Help :)

jrdejavux
11th December 2007, 09:24 AM
Hello guys today i downloaded pocketCM 0.15 but i would like to use it as my default SMS for a hermes but for some reason i still get the orginal SMS notification on the left softkey even tho i took it off via settings/sound and notifations any ideas how i can change this ??? and also when i click the HTC Home SMS icon i still get the factory sms program. any way to change this too ??? thanks for the help JR

shaqattack
14th January 2008, 09:52 PM
hey
i was jes wondering if i could use this for my msn contacts that got sucked into my htc while i signed into msn live .....

and continue to use the original contacts program for everything else....

coz i hear that once i install this programe after deleting it the original contacts program does not appear so i am a little wary i do like the original program but it has the msn contacts which i really dont require on my phone....

any help???

fredamexis
9th September 2008, 03:37 PM
no support for WM2003SE?

Great job you're doing!!

jonathan.handoyo
31st May 2009, 03:51 PM
i always have a problem with this application...
somhow i cannot get out of the SMS page...
and when i press anything to force it to go out... like windows key...
when i'm trying to go back to the app, it's not responding anymore...
and when i kill the task, then try to go in a fresh... it's still not responding...
apparently it's trying to get back to the state it was in...
am i the only one having problem with this?
because i really like the threaded sms feature of this app...
or is there any other suggestion?

sarahmclead
21st August 2009, 06:10 AM
I just like the app. I hate it to get the Stylus out and tick on the screen if I would use my bare hands :o