NBD 8.0 Won't start, A little help

[wade_link]

I flashed to NBD 8.0 about a week ago and have been loving it's sweetness. Today though, I turn on my wizard and it won't get past the NBD startup screen. I have reset and taken out the batter a few times now to no avail. Can anyone help?

[wade_link]

Could it be... dare I say.. Bricked.

Can't even do a hard reset. :(

[da1stboats]

Your gonna have to do a hard reset. i've had the same, but search to NBD8.0 forum the procedure is there if you can't google it for hard reset of your device. also try to keep your reply/questions in that particular post and try not create a post when one already exsits for the rom your using. They stress the fact that you must read before asking a question that's been asked a thousand times.

[edgardito]

Could it be... dare I say.. Bricked.

Can't even do a hard reset. :(

I had the same problem with a different rom, but the same OS. If you see the boot splash screen, and the boot stops in there, press the power button and keep it press when you notice that the boots hangs up. it might power off you device, o bring it to life.
To do a hard reset on a wizard, you must press the comm button + voice dial button + reset button (with the stylus).
Then press send when the screen ask for it.

[kmlworld]

I loaded the 8.0 last Friday. Last night, I rebooted the MDA and it stuck at the 3rd screen. Tried hard reset and got no responses. Also, tried to get the lhe bootloader (3 colors) screen - no reponses either. CAN ANYONE HELP!

Thanks

[eelco_akker]

I loaded the 8.0 last Friday. Last night, I rebooted the MDA and it stuck at the 3rd screen. Tried hard reset and got no responses. Also, tried to get the lhe bootloader (3 colors) screen - no reponses either. CAN ANYONE HELP!

Thanks

Did you remove your SD card, sometimes that helps

Eelco

[da1stboats]

while doing your hard reset, don't let go of the two buttons after you have used the sylus.

[kmlworld]

I tried to remove the SD and SIM card - but it still doesn't work. No matter how I tried, I can't seem to able to get the the bootloader (3 colors) screens.

Thanks in advanced for your guys help!
kmlworld

[laozx]

I have the same problem too on v7.9 and v8.0. I've soft resetted the next day, and it always gets stuck on the 3rd splash screen. I tested this out a couple of times. But when I was using v7.4 I never had that problem.

[norbert4]

I just had the same problem (stuck on NBD screen) with 7.9, after trying to access an html file saved on the sd card. A hard-reset solved the problem (after some brick-scare time, though ... :-))

[kmlworld]

the problem I have is I can't even get pass the 3rd screens. soft-reset and hard reset did not help. Tried to get the the bootload to reload the os but CAN'T.

[kmlworld]

The problem I have is I can't get pass the 3rd screen. Hard or soft resets didnot help. I want to reload the OS but CANT get to the bootloader screen. Tried all combination of keys that described on this forum. Anyone has any other ideas?

[backslash2k]

The problem I have is I can't get pass the 3rd screen. Hard or soft resets didnot help. I want to reload the OS but CANT get to the bootloader screen. Tried all combination of keys that described on this forum. Anyone has any other ideas?
this should work:
- turn it off
- remove sd card
- while pressing the voicedial button turn it on (keep pressing the voicedial button till bootscreen appears)
- reflash os

[zoki]

It would help me a little if those who are having this problems gives more details (g3 or g4, ipl/spl version, extra software installed, do they use touch version or not)

[norbert4]

Zoki, here are my details : NBD 7.9 touch on a G3, IPL/SPL 2.26, GSM 2.11 (the t-mobile version, i flashed the 2.69 version since) running BatteryStatus 1.04.201 beta3. Nothing more installed except tom tom 6.02 and opera mini 4 beta. I was browsing the minisd card with the built-in file explorer to open an html file with IE when it completely froze.

I tried holding the power button in order for it to reset, to no avail. I popped out the battery, remove the sd card, but it stuck on boot on the NBD screen. After trying several times, I hard-reset it, and it worked.

I count on upgrading to ipl/spl 3.08 before installing NBD 8.1.

Update: I flash on a laptop computer running XP Pro, and before installing NBD 7.9 I flushed the t-mobile 2.26 version, as recommended somewhere in this forum. Last program I installed, several hours before the freeze (and forgot to mention) was Deepfish (latest version).

Zoki, i am ready to help if you need to run tests/debug/log, thank you very much for your work !

[ronin]

I have experienced the same issue when I install any third party software into NBD V8. I think this is one of the best ROMs I have worked with and tested other than this issue.

[ronin]

It would help me a little if those who are having this problems gives more details (g3 or g4, ipl/spl version, extra software installed, do they use touch version or not)

My is a G3 Version.
CID Unlocked
IPL/SPL Versions 2.25
Base Rom V8, No changes, TouchFlo enabled
installed via ShellTool
OS of host machine: Vista Ultimate with XP HTC device drivers.

Issues installed when installing any cab file or installation from Active sync.
I had to do a reset and then I noticed it locks up in the NBD screen. The issue can only be resolved with a hard reset.

Hope this helps... Will be looking for any input and if I can help in any way! PM me!

[laozx]

Here is my setup

Mine is a G3 Version.
CID Unlocked
IPL/SPL Versions 3.08
Radio 2.19 and 2.69 (tried both w/ same problem)
Base Rom V8, No changes, TouchFlo enabled

I have installed:
Bluetooth Headphones
Hardware GPS unit
Coreplayer
iGo Myway gps software
Piscel Browser

Now I have tried to test it out to see what is making the system freeze on that 3rd screen. So I installed each of those programs. Then I do a soft reset. It starts up fine each time. My problem seems to happen like the next day or so. If I soft reset the next day, then it will freeze. So i'm not totally sure if it's 3rd party software or not. When I was using his 7.4, I had all these programs installed and no problems with soft reset.

I've done the take out SD Card, reboot and whatnot. Same problem. The only thing that works for me is to either Hard reset (holding comm manager button, voice record button + reset button) or to go into boot mode (power button + camera button + reset) and do the reflash.

Bottom line is though, it's a great rom, i love it. Having it freeze isn't totally a big deal to me, since I keep my stuff backed up through the PIM. I think I just need to stay away from doing soft resets. Hopefully someone will figure out what is going on with it. But for now i'm fine with it.

[hanzieman]

It would help me a little if those who are having this problems gives more details (g3 or g4, ipl/spl version, extra software installed, do they use touch version or not)

G4-device IPL+SPL 2.21.001.
Radio 2.69faria.
batterystatus v3, touch.

After softreset it hangsup.

HELP!!

[kmlworld]

Anyone know how to get to the bootloader (3 colors) screen? I tried the power+talk+reset, comm+talk+reset, messaging+ie+reset, etc. - none seem to work. Anyone has other ideas?

[ronin]

Anyone know how to get to the bootloader (3 colors) screen? I tried the power+talk+reset, comm+talk+reset, messaging+ie+reset, etc. - none seem to work. Anyone has other ideas?

You have to press and hold the Voice Dial button, top left side of your Wizard and then keep it pressed whilst you press and release the reset button. Pin hole in the same side of the device.

This should get you to the bootloader screen. Then attach your USB cable and you should be ready to flash it with a base rom.

[laozx]

You have to press and hold the Voice Dial button, top left side of your Wizard and then keep it pressed whilst you press and release the reset button. Pin hole in the same side of the device.

This should get you to the bootloader screen. Then attach your USB cable and you should be ready to flash it with a base rom.

Well on my wizard, I have to press the Power Button + Camera Button, then press and release reset button, while still holding the first 2. Then the bootloader screen should come up.

[ronin]

Well on my wizard, I have to press the Power Button + Camera Button, then press and release reset button, while still holding the first 2. Then the bootloader screen should come up.

Interesting! Did you remap the buttons? I tried it on mine and it will not go into bootloader mode with these key combinations. Where is your device from( I know it is from HTC), but I mean what country and what provider?

[thomassster]

I don't use NBD, but I'm using the 1437 base. Is this a NBD problem or a 1437 problem? Maybe something to ask other people that are using the base.

[ronin]

I don't use NBD, but I'm using the 1437 base. Is this a NBD problem or a 1437 problem? Maybe something to ask other people that are using the base.

That is a very good point...So I decicded to investigate further.

I am doing some very basic application debugging. The first thing I have done is to disable the HTC Plug in, as this is typically where issues happen in WM 2006. Since PPC2002, today plugs cause issues.

I installed a logger and found the following processes:

16:12.43 0 Begin
16:12.43 0 InitHTCHome:1
19:04.50 0 End

So far I have installed about 7 apps and reset the device without a lockup! I have come in and out of phone radio signal and tested the BT and WiFi functionality without an issue. The touchflo is working as well.

I have done installs via USB cable and CAB files in my SD card.
I also installed Iphone cab. The Iphone look and feel for the dialer and had no problems!

This pretty much indicates the issues are happening with the HTC Home Plug in and something there in.

One thing I did notice is when I installed " Check Notifications" to see the processes running in the ROM my calendar had over 487 events warnings. This software worked to clean up memory issues in Windows Pocket PC 2003 and I still use it in WM2006. I am purging all the dup events to see if there is any improvement, but that usually impacts performance and slows down the device.

I diug around for a registry setting in the HTC plug in to see if I could find anything out of the ordinary . I am not familiar with the HTC plug in code, but I suspect it does check to see if there is any changes in the environment before it starts.

So just because I am really curious I re-enabled the HTC home plug in and reset my device four times to test it and it is working.
So to make a long story short...


Disable the HTC home plug before you install any software in the Wizard, test to see if the software works well it and then re- enable it.

[obsydian]

Locked onthe NBD screen and only hard reset releases it, set up is as follows:

ROM: NBD v8.0 TouchFLO
GSM: 2.19.11
IPL: 2.26
SPL: 2.26

[kmlworld]

That keys sequences worked!

[laozx]

Interesting! Did you remap the buttons? I tried it on mine and it will not go into bootloader mode with these key combinations. Where is your device from( I know it is from HTC), but I mean what country and what provider?

Hey, mine is a cingular 8125 version. I just now tried it my way (power but+camera+reset) and bootload worked. Then I tried it your way (just voice dial+reset) and that worked too. LOL I guess your way is easier.

But at least kmlworld got his to work, which is all that matters.

[ronin]

Hey Laozx, I tried it your way too and it worked too. I must not have pressed one of the buttons hard enough! This is why I love this forum we are always learning and sharing!

[laozx]

Hey Laozx, I tried it your way too and it worked too. I must not have pressed one of the buttons hard enough! This is why I love this forum we are always learning and sharing!

Cool, more than one way to do things ya know.

Do me a favor though. Use your device normally today, but tomorrow, try a soft reset sometime and post back the results!

Thanks

[ronin]

Will definetely do that and report.

I am seeing a lot of data traffic going out through the weather update function going in both directions... I will start monitoring it too!