Superb Text Entry using Fingertouch ?

[fire00]

Does someone use the Fingertouch text input progi on the Touch?
http://www.teksoftco.com/index.php?section=fingertouch

I'm wondering if this really solves the problem with text entry and make it possible to use the Touch with a single hand without stylus?

Possible to enter text while going on foot or driving in car?

Does it respond reliably?

Can you please report your experience?

[thelordharry]

IMAO, you're never going to achieve the sort of satisfying, one handed experience on a touch screen keyboard that you get with a real one, be it a slide out qwerty keyboard or a cellphone numberpad. However, I would be very interest too to hear the experiences of anyone who actually uses this product. I've tried others, such as Tengo but to be honest, it's still very much stylus based and as 'two handed' as using the default virtual qwerty keyboard it ships with.

By the way, using your phone/PDA whilst driving a car??? I think you'll find that's illegal in most countries now he he :)

[doni]

I use HTK (Happy Tappings Keyboard), it's free and for me works great. I don't like using a stylus, and so far haven't had a need with this phone. The KB has slightly bigger keys, but just enough to completely change the experience. One handed use is very accurate and easy imho.

Google for it and give it a try (there are skins out there too, I use a black one that is quite good and fits well with the default theme). If you like it and want to make it default, search for Sipchange.

[Flipside]

I use T9, found it right in here somewhere :)
Very fast and responsive, nice graphics too...
Phone Pad international... ;)

[citats]

Tried it, and I dislike it, will stick with HTK for now.

[maevro]

HTK and Pocket CM are my 2 favorite right now. What makes HTK so much better on the Touch over other HTC phones is that you can hit all the side buttons perfectly because of the flat flush screen.

[wbaez0320]

I, have tried about every keyboard out there looking for the perfect one. I have tried the iphone wanna be, virtual, and fullscreen keyboards like.....tengo, spb full, happyT....... etc. etc. And I find no other better than the htc t9 Phone pad, big enough to type with one finger, so simple to switch from T9 entry to Abc, to just Number pad and use of symbols is just as quick to get to. Atleast for me there is nothing like it.

[gohyc]

If you can't do one-handed input with HTC Phone Pad app, nothing else will!! I am even faster on the Phone Pad T9 than I am on those with hardware number pad, not kidding!! How can anyone not like Phone Pad?

God knows why HTC left the Phone Pad app out of the Touch, especially when they claimed you can do almost anything on the Touch without the stylus!!! With Phone Pad, I can say that is true!!

Tried Happy Tapping, didn't think much of it as the buttons are only a tag bit larger than the default keyboard.

[fire00]

for all the users which are okay with dictionary-based text entry tools like the Phone-Pad it might be the best solution for sure.

Well for me I have to switch between 3 langauges all the time and I also use many words which are not common and not in the dictionaries, so I need then to switch to ABC, so that's why I'm still looking for a full-sized keyboard method and the fingertouch by teksoftco seemed to fit well to me.

- You have almost the whole fullsized-keyboards which you can "really" operate with your fingers (happy-tiping etc. I really cannot...to small)

- And you still do see the original interface which is the disadvantage for me with SPB fullsize keyboard

But as I unfortunately sold my Touch because of the missing ideal text entry I cannot test it. Few days after I sold it the mentioned application came out :-)

[iamjnb]

The phone pad works amazingly. Better than the HW keypads on other devices. It needs a bit of practice but the Touch is designed for finger use rather than stylus. the case is harder than other screens and responds to touch (it does not work with a glove on for that matter.

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Copy both the files to your device and install them. Reset the device once.

The default keypad on WM is the keyboard. To change it, Open IM selector from the programmes and select the default keyboard as phone pad. it works like a breeze hereafter.

[radhoo]

for all the users which are okay with dictionary-based text entry tools like the Phone-Pad it might be the best solution for sure.

Well for me I have to switch between 3 langauges all the time and I also use many words which are not common and not in the dictionaries, so I need then to switch to ABC, so that's why I'm still looking for a full-sized keyboard method and the fingertouch by teksoftco seemed to fit well to me.

- You have almost the whole fullsized-keyboards which you can "really" operate with your fingers (happy-tiping etc. I really cannot...to small)

- And you still do see the original interface which is the disadvantage for me with SPB fullsize keyboard

But as I unfortunately sold my Touch because of the missing ideal text entry I cannot test it. Few days after I sold it the mentioned application came out :-)

I agree. I also need to use it in several languages, so I cannot stick to a dictionary based t9-like keyboard. But I am happy with the fingertouch as I can type using one hand only, the buttons are quite big:

http://teksoftco.com/products/fingertouch/manual/fingertouch_5.jpg

Did any of you try the builtin macroing of the fingertouch? You can define short commands that do specific actions, for eg:
!cap , will capture screen, parameters can be changed here:HKLM, "Software\Teksoft\FingerTouch

!gre , do this in Notes or Pocket Word, will replace the trigger with a phrase, this is good if you need to type the same thing very often like greetings in an email

there are some other combinations, and the user can modify or add new ones:
http://teksoftco.com/products/fingertouch/manual/fingertouch_9.jpg

[fire00]

Radhoo - I've tested it on Ubiquio 503G (which I sent back again :-) a bit and as far as I know on one of the layouts which seemed the best one there are two letters each button. If you want to enter the second letter on button you have to type twice on that button right?

But what do you do when you want to type the first letter twice e.g. something with double "A"? Do you have to type first "A" then wait to allow a delay and to avoid that "S" gets entered and then type the second "A" ?

[radhoo]

But what do you do when you want to type the first letter twice e.g. something with double "A"? Do you have to type first "A" then wait to allow a delay and to avoid that "S" gets entered and then type the second "A" ?
Yes you can do it that way
-or-
Adjust the repeat rate from Options, and simply keep the key pressed
-or-
Press the A then press something else that doesn't affect the writing (shift-shift) then press A again.

but what about the macroing, did anyone play with it?

[maevro]

If you can't do one-handed input with HTC Phone Pad app, nothing else will!! I am even faster on the Phone Pad T9 than I am on those with hardware number pad, not kidding!! How can anyone not like Phone Pad?

God knows why HTC left the Phone Pad app out of the Touch, especially when they claimed you can do almost anything on the Touch without the stylus!!! With Phone Pad, I can say that is true!!

Tried Happy Tapping, didn't think much of it as the buttons are only a tag bit larger than the default keyboard.

I would never use phonepad on the touch. You can design your own keyboard on HTK and make the buttons larger.

[canadian student]

How do you do that? I love the phone pad, like amny have said, i've tried a bunch of them, and I keep coming back too the phone pad. I would use HTkb, if I can make the keys bigger, like half the screen.

[El Cid Campeador]

hi people, where can I find happy tapping keyboard???
Thanks

[teride]

I would never use phonepad on the touch. You can design your own keyboard on HTK and make the buttons larger.

I'm interested to know this also..I like HTK but buttons are a little small. Have been trying "Fingertouch" not sure if I like it.

Plus after soft reset HTK always disappears. I understand adding the "default" keyboard selection as only required for WM5 devices. Is this needed with Touch to establish HTK as "default" after soft reset?

[marisa4755]

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=296455

Best to read the whole thread before installing as some people had problems when trying to select it as the default keyboard using 3rd party software and had to hard reset.

[gogoduck]

I use HTK (Happy Tappings Keyboard), it's free and for me works great. I don't like using a stylus, and so far haven't had a need with this phone. The KB has slightly bigger keys, but just enough to completely change the experience. One handed use is very accurate and easy imho.

Google for it and give it a try (there are skins out there too, I use a black one that is quite good and fits well with the default theme). If you like it and want to make it default, search for Sipchange.

Thanks for sharing, I m very happy with HTK with my TOUCH.;)

[crower]

Hi all,
Where can I download htk?
Help me please...

[marisa4755]

Hi all,
Where can I download htk?
Help me please...

2 comments above yours I have given the link!

[xda-addict]

Hi all,
Where can I download htk?
Help me please...

The link to the keyboard is
http://teksoftco.com/index.php?section=fingertouch&tab=download

I'm a sucker for keyboards and this is the best experience for me so far

[seawolf69]

The phone pad works amazingly.

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Copy both the files to your device and install them. Reset the device once.

Hi! I'm really new to all this. :confused: Would you mind giving me a ste-by-step idiot proof method of installing Phonepad? ie, where to i copy the files to? is there anything i should click to install? is installing auto-run?

Thanks in advance!

[seawolf69]

It's ok...I've managed to install phone pad...

[xda-addict]

It's ok...I've managed to install phone pad...

Better try FingerTouch, IMHO it's better, here is the CAB, copy it to the device and start it from File Explorer:

[r0p3]

Better try FingerTouch, IMHO it's better, here is the CAB, copy it to the device and start it from File Explorer:
hmm - played a little bit. It's a little bir weird.
When you set it to "Big", letters are changing all the time.
Do you have instructions how it works?

[radhoo]

hmm - played a little bit. It's a little bir weird.
When you set it to "Big", letters are changing all the time.
Do you have instructions how it works?

There is a complete manual, available online at:
http://www.teksoftco.com/index.php?section=fingertouch&tab=info
(See Features).
If #2 is confusing for you, you should try the 5th layout, it's big and standard.

Still I suggest you invest some time in learning how to use the 2nd layout - some considerable research was put in making it possible - takes time to learn but the results are good.

I've attached the manual here also, as PDF:

[newuser888]

Tried almost everything out there.

SPB full keyboard is not useful because you can't see the application.

Similarly I don't like Finger Touch at all, because it covers up too much of the screen, leaving very little visibilty left for the application.

I tried Tengo. I am able to do away with Stylus completely, especially with the Thumb version.
There are actually four different versions of Tengo, so you should individually try them.

Tengo free is probably what most people have tried. Then there is Tengo 2.1 which allows you to choose the standard keyboard when typing in things like password. Tengo 2.1 also has another layout called the Nano, with number keys visible. Lastly there is Tengo Thumb. The key of Tengo Thumb is much bigger than Finger Touch, but it covers smaller area thus leaving more visibility of your application.

Of all, I like Tengo the best.

[Sridhar Gondesi]

How do you do that? I love the phone pad, like amny have said, i've tried a bunch of them, and I keep coming back too the phone pad. I would use HTkb, if I can make the keys bigger, like half the screen.

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Do you have a cab file for HTC Phone pad?
Cheers!

[radhoo]

Here is another black skin. Not yet available to public, but here it is. This is only the fifth layout, Fingertouch supports 5 layouts.

http://www.teksoftco.com/products/fingertouch/large/11.jpg

[Myster]

i have tried all but nothing compares to PocketCM !!!

It is HIGHLY Customizable , Localization Support , Dictionary and it is Freeware

http://www.pocketcm.com/

[Neutrin0]

i have tried all but nothing compares to PocketCM !!!

It is HIGHLY Customizable , Localization Support , Dictionary and it is Freeware

http://www.pocketcm.com/

Spam? Wow this is no #1 reason why I won't ever install PocketCM

[Neutrin0]

Here is another black skin. Not yet available to public, but here it is. This is only the fifth layout, Fingertouch supports 5 layouts.

http://www.teksoftco.com/products/fingertouch/large/11.jpg

Where can I download this from?

[xda-addict]

Yepeee I'm happy!!!

I just got a newsletter, Fingertouch 1.0 (the one that I was using is free), and there is an upgrade with tons of features, including multiple languages and T9

See www.fingertouchpro.com to download the cab

[swordfish2009]

HTC diamond keypad is nice

[witchshady]

I was kinda hoping to find a Phone Pad with haptic feedback...like everytime I press on a letter, the phone vibrates. Similar to the tactile feedback you get from regular cellphones.

So far, haven't found a single program like that yet... :(

[vertigo1]

I was kinda hoping to find a Phone Pad with haptic feedback...like everytime I press on a letter, the phone vibrates. Similar to the tactile feedback you get from regular cellphones.

So far, haven't found a single program like that yet... :(

Good luck. The problem with adding feedback like that to a phone not designed around it is that these phones are too slow to respond quickly enough to the tapping. I tried an app for the phone pad that did this but you had to hold down the virtual keys to get any kind of feedback vibrations. Quite un-impressive...

[witchshady]

Good luck. The problem with adding feedback like that to a phone not designed around it is that these phones are too slow to respond quickly enough to the tapping. I tried an app for the phone pad that did this but you had to hold down the virtual keys to get any kind of feedback vibrations. Quite un-impressive...

So I guess we're stuck with just wishful thinking then...crap.

I was really hoping that that would become a reality one day...but after reading thru most of the threads here, I'm inclined to agree with you. It seems that those that did come up with a similar program just had limited success...not to mention it messed up the vibrating motor inside the phone...plus the drain on the battery life.

oh well.