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MagLite_RUS
10th August 2007, 10:18 PM
Original thread of this ROM (in Russian) (http://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=48311)

Big thanks to misar and cmonex for their work above porting WM6 into WM5 devices!

Dell Axim X50v WM6 A02 Release Candidate 2 (http://rapidshare.com/files/55990767/X50v_WM6_A02_RC2.rar) (Mirror 1 (http://ifolder.ru/3360100), Mirror 2 (http://uploaded.to/?id=7okbp1)) 16.09.07

Please do not install full backup from A02 RC1 version! Backup only PIM data.

Changes:
1) Fixed registry bug. Now you don't need soft reset to apply system changes.

//MagLite

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Dell Axim X50v WM6 A02 Release Candidate 1 (http://rapidshare.com/files/55713618/X50v_WM6_A02_RC1.rar) (Mirror 1 (http://ifolder.ru/3347532), Mirror 2 (http://uploaded.to/?id=ryc4vu)) 14.09.07

Please do not install full backup from A02 PR2 version! Backup only PIM data.

Changes:
1) "Wi-Fi Power ON after hard reset" bug - patched!
2) Added registry values for "chachefilt.dll" - now it's work!
3) "All Sounds fix" - added!
4) Patched some bugs with new WMP skin.

Good weekend!

Yours MagLite!

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Dell Axim X50v WM6 A02 Preview Release 2 (http://rapidshare.com/files/54536144/X50v_WM6_A02_PR2.rar) (Mirror 1 (http://uploaded.to/?id=vxt9ak), Mirror 2 (http://ifolder.ru/3292368)) 10.09.07

Please do not install full backup from A02 PR1 version! Backup only PIM data.

1) "Certificates problem" - now solved!
2) "Word Completion problem" - now solved!
3) Windows Live & Messenger - now works! (Latest Build - download .cab (http://rapidshare.com/files/54532388/MS_Windows_Live.rar))
4) PP changed to 4 MB (~34 MB free RAM).
5) New Transcriber (download .cab (http://rapidshare.com/files/54532352/MS_Transcriber.rar))
4) Added normal A2DP & BT Activesync friendly names. (please test it)
5) Deleted Customer Feedback.
6) Small visual changes.

Good Night!


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Dell Axim X50v WM6 A02 Preview Release 1 (http://rapidshare.com/files/53652568/X50v_WM6_A02_PR1.rar) (Mirror 1 (http://ifolder.ru/3245613), Mirror 2 (http://uploaded.to/?id=2yvi3g)) 06.09.07

1) Updated AKU, now it's last build 18508.0.7.0 (modules in xip section updated too...you see it in OS Core version)
2) Updated BT drivers and A2DP drivers. Applyed some A2DP registry tweaks.
3) Patched Wi-Fi! Now it's perfectly works!!!
4) Updated root certificates (you see it here "Start -> Settings -> System -> Certificates -> Root")
5) Changed PP Size: now it's 6 megabytes (we have ~33 MB free ram space!!!!)
6) Added Office Mobile: OneNote Mobile.
7) Deleted odyssey, Task switcher, windows update, and Splash screen (about Wi-Fi button) after hard reset.
8) Small visual changes.
9) And added new bugs


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Dell Axim X50v Windows Mobile 6 Classic A01 ROM

Screenshots:

http://4pda.ru/forum/uploads/img-47281-Screen001.jpghttp://4pda.ru/forum/uploads/img-47282-Screen002.jpghttp://4pda.ru/forum/uploads/img-47283-Screen003.jpg

ROM Version:
A01 (10.08.07)
Windows Mobile Version:
Classic OS 5.2.1437 (Build 17944.0.3.1)
Page Pool:
8 MB
Free RAM Space:
~30 MB

Deleted:
1) Transcriber (download .cab (http://4pda.ru/forum/uploads/img-47288-WM6_Trascriber.rar))
2) Windows Live (download .cab (http://4pda.ru/forum/uploads/img-47316-MS_Windows_Live.rar))
3) Data Backup (download.cab (http://4pda.ru/forum/uploads/img-47287-Data_Backup.rar))

Added:
1) Full SDHC cards support (up to 8 GB)
2) BT FTP Explorer (by HTC)

Bugs:
Searching... :)

Please, if you found bug, write bug report in this topic! It will help to improve this ROM in the future.

Attention! If you have Windows Mobile 2003SE ROM on your device, FIRST, please download THIS ARCHIVE (http://rapidshare.com/files/53847340/AximX50v_WM5_A01_EN.rar) (RAR 32.4 MB), and update your PDA to A01 Windows Mobile 5 ROM.
After that, please download (http://rapidshare.com/files/53856933/A02_WM5_x50v.EXE) official WM5 A02 ROM and update your PDA to WM5 A02 ROM.

Flashing:

Download Dell Axim X50v WM6 A01 ROM (http://rapidshare.com/files/53850941/img-47279-X50v_WM60_A01.rar) (RAR 31 MB)

1) Unpack files from archive into root of FAT32 SD-Card.
2) Insert the SD-Card into your Axim and start the SD Image Loader by Pressing Wireless + Power + Reset
3) The Image Loader will search for flash images on your SD-Card.
4) Press the action key twice, this starts the update process.
5) After the process is finished you will be asked to hard reset your device. Follow this instruction and wait for the OS to load.

Thats all!

2007 (c) MagLite

surfer
10th August 2007, 10:20 PM
Looking good maglite!!!! Just waiting for the x51v rom:-)

1337woody
10th August 2007, 10:37 PM
ohh ya cant wait to test drive this and a huge thanks for all of the hard work, because without you our devices would be sub par to their full potential. :)

satnile
10th August 2007, 11:51 PM
Top job & magnificent Rom upgrade, really transformed my crawling X50v to a lightening fast, lively & responsive PDA, yet again.

Millions of thanks and kudos to MagLite.



:) :) :) :)

satnile

Axim X50v
QTEK 9100

moonlonely
10th August 2007, 11:55 PM
This is amazing. I just upgraded and it runs so much more smoothly than WM5.0 A03. Of course, I haven't loaded any programs yet, but so far I'm actually thinking about NOT downgrading to WM2003SE for the first time in weeks.

Neo_Reloaded
11th August 2007, 12:41 AM
That's so GREAT!!!! Downloaded and installing it right now!!!!

Thank you very much MagLite!!!

3dot
11th August 2007, 01:16 AM
MagLite!
King of x50v!!

manfredi90
11th August 2007, 01:57 AM
Fantastic! but I wont the x51v version!!!:( :)

Is there any news about the x51v WM6??

leegoon84
11th August 2007, 03:02 AM
OMG It's way faster than WM5.0 and it supports SDHC card!!!
(Sandisk 4gb SDHC)


Thank you MagLite!

blazingwolf
11th August 2007, 04:07 AM
Great job. I'm downloading now and will post if I find any bugs.

frelnik
11th August 2007, 04:26 AM
Thanks MagLite! You are amazing. I've been telling everyone I know about all the great work you've done.

One problem I've been having is with Windows Live. Whenever I try to sign in, I'm always told that it's unable to establish an internet connection. I'm able to connect fine over wifi with everything but Windows Live. It worked fine on WM5 A03 ROM, so it's something about WM6.

Thanks!

nl1rsd
11th August 2007, 04:48 AM
Wow nice work MagLite. I thought that Football was leading the WM6 development but it looks you have beaten him! :D

Excellent work!

Still waiting for WM6 on X51v.... :(

wooikok
11th August 2007, 05:44 AM
MagLite_RUS, i'm running wm5 AO3(your version)..so to upgrade just load your boot loader and upgrade from WM5 A03 to WM6 A01?:confused:
anyway great work..will post any bugs if found...but i think won't be having any as u guys have put in much effort to iron out the problems....:)

Empel1960
11th August 2007, 06:37 AM
Thanks MagLite! You are amazing. I've been telling everyone I know about all the great work you've done.

One problem I've been having is with Windows Live. Whenever I try to sign in, I'm always told that it's unable to establish an internet connection. I'm able to connect fine over wifi with everything but Windows Live. It worked fine on WM5 A03 ROM, so it's something about WM6.

Thanks!
Hi Maglite, same issue here, windows live cannot establish an internet connection, I tried via wifi and bluetooth, and no luck, otherwise is working fine, I'll post which programs I've installed

MagLite_RUS
11th August 2007, 07:23 AM
Please try this Windows Live .cab (Download (http://4pda.ru/forum/uploads/img-47316-MS_Windows_Live.rar))

//MagLite

frelnik
11th August 2007, 08:30 AM
Please try this Windows Live .cab (Download (http://4pda.ru/forum/uploads/img-47316-MS_Windows_Live.rar))

//MagLite

Unfortunately the same problem occurs with that one as well. I've also tried Windows Live version 10.6.0026.1400, which is the one I was using fine on WM5 A03, and it can't connect either. I've hard reset and tried both versions with no other software installed and it's the same problem.

I've googled the message and it seems to happen on some WM6 phones, something about it trying to connect via GPRS instead of Wifi...but that's just what one person said about their particular phone.

3dot
11th August 2007, 09:13 AM
Testing,speed likes wm2003,much faster than wm5.

JD8052
11th August 2007, 09:36 AM
Is it possible to downgrade WM6 back to 2003?

MagLite_RUS
11th August 2007, 09:51 AM
JD8052, yes it's possible :)

I'm working on windows live bug...

//MagLite

hendrixus
11th August 2007, 10:08 AM
JD8052, yes it's possible :)

I'm working on windows live bug...

//MagLite

Then I'll wait until this is solved:)

kartam
11th August 2007, 11:23 AM
your rom is awesome! Big thanks! But one issue.. wi-fi WPA-PSK seems not to work...:(

DrBios
11th August 2007, 02:58 PM
yeap wpa-psk doesn't work ...
some thing than i notice was that filesys.exe strike but only a few second maybe a minute the its stop very quickly ... and while filesys.exe strike the unit was very usable ... ... i think tha the sector size is all ready changed to 512 ... some body check this please

petete70
11th August 2007, 03:06 PM
Hi Maglite!

After having WM5 3.5.2 with a pagepool of 4.8 Mb for more than a week I must say that the results are so satisfactory to me that I can't see a reason to have a bigger pagepool. :)

The question is: Is possible to reduce the pagepool size in WM6 (with good results)?
With 4.8 I have more than 32Mb of free RAM which is really nice. And I have no compains about speed (WM5 A02 was clearly slower specially when starting the PDA)

Another question (probably Iĺl have to check by miself) is that I have a Belkin thumbpad. Do you think that is probable that the WM5 driver works in WM6?


Thanks!

manfredi90
11th August 2007, 04:12 PM
Hi,

I wont to traslate this ROM, but I have a problem.
How can I extract the dump of the ROM? And after i modify this ROM, How can I rebuild the nb0 file?

cavyman
11th August 2007, 04:41 PM
Hi,

I wont to traslate this ROM, but I have a problem.
How can I extract the dump of the ROM? And after i modify this ROM, How can I rebuild the nb0 file?

That is not a question for this thread. The instructions on dumping a ROM and cooking/rebuilding a ROM are answered in other threads. You need to search elsewhere for those instructions.

Publius
11th August 2007, 04:48 PM
I extracted the files and put them on a 1gb SD card, pushed the wireless+power+reset, but it never loads the image on the SD card. Any help?

cavyman
11th August 2007, 04:53 PM
yeap wpa-psk doesn't work ...

Yep, I mentioned the same thing in the WM5 A03 thread yesterday. It (obviously) hasn't been fixed since the beta release.

... i think tha the sector size is all ready changed to 512 ... some body check this please

Now, is that purely speculation or do you have some info that the rest of us don't? Sector size, for the most part, is going to be device dependent. Therefore, the sector size that works best on an X50v might not be best for an HTC or an Ipaq. Also, remember that MagLite said he did not know how to change the sector size and would therefore leave it at 4k.

cavyman
11th August 2007, 04:54 PM
I know everyone is finding that as soon as you flash the new WM6 ROM to your Axim, all of the sudden your Axim seems to be flying (very quick). But, as some of you might recall, the same thing appears to happen even on WM5 A01-A03 right after a flash or a hard-reset. This occurs for the simple reason that your device is, at that point, in its most bare, uncluttered (essentially uncluttered) state.

I would encourage everyone here to load all the programs you had on your device (before flashing to WM6) and *THEN* report on how your device is behaving. Getting on here and saying, "I just flashed to WM6 and my device is way faster than ever before!!!..." is perhaps the dumbest comment that could be made. :rolleyes: Just to reiterate my above point, *any newly flashed device is going to be faster than a device loaded down with programs*.

hendrixus
11th August 2007, 05:33 PM
I know everyone is finding that as soon as you flash the new WM6 ROM to your Axim, all of the sudden your Axim seems to be flying (very quick).
I[/B].

It still does with programs installed.

Maybe using Gxmark (http://int13.net/gxmark_results.htm#) for some figures

frelnik
11th August 2007, 05:40 PM
your rom is awesome! Big thanks! But one issue.. wi-fi WPA-PSK seems not to work...:(

WPA-PSK doesn't work for me either, but that has been since Dell's A02 ROM. I've never been able to connect to my router with WPA-PSK via the Windows Mobile connection software, but Odyssey always worked--that is until A02. So for me and my router at least, it was broken by Dell.

cavyman
11th August 2007, 05:49 PM
WPA-PSK doesn't work for me either, but that has been since Dell's A02 ROM. I've never been able to connect to my router with WPA-PSK via the Windows Mobile connection software, but Odyssey always worked--that is until A02. So for me and my router at least, it was broken by Dell.

WPA-PSK worked great in A03 for many Axim users (including myself). However, it is indeed broken in WM6 A01. Hopefully MagLite can get it fixed up pretty quickly.

3dot
11th August 2007, 06:38 PM
The rom read/write performance is extreamly low in spb benchmark.
At the begin after reboot,the system is freeze and slow down a lot.It would be better after the data cache in ram.

** updated:forget it!Because spb benchmark on 2003se file storage is ram,so the file system test based on ram performance,wm5/wm6 based on rom,then the benchmark is worse.

You can see the result.
The left hand side is x50v on wm6.The another is capture from website's old wm 2003se review.
http://files.myopera.com/kinnik/files/1ScreenHunter_006.jpg

Maeggor
11th August 2007, 06:52 PM
Anyone can put a youtube video o similar to see the fast wich is that ROM recently installed? And another also with many programs installed!

There is also options to translate into spanish? If yoy MagLite need help I should help you!

Thanks

1337woody
11th August 2007, 06:54 PM
im not exactly sure but after i installed adobe pdf reader and spb full screen keyboard i got this slow down which i had been also experiencing on the A03 rom. i proceeded to remove the pdf reader and it seemed to return some speed, but i think spb full screen keyboard may be the slow down cause bc in the A03 rom after awhile i would press my hardware mapped key and it would take a really long time to load and fyi its version 3.0. and as for read write speed it seems to vary sometimes as far as i can tell.

1337woody
11th August 2007, 07:14 PM
how do i make my stupid power light stop blinking and has anyone had to do a reset to connect to their wifi and whats up with flight not being able to turn off flight mode. :confused: oh idk what happened but after clicking randomly in the settings my power light stopped flashing

cavyman
11th August 2007, 07:36 PM
how do i make my stupid power light stop blinking and has anyone had to do a reset to connect to their wifi and whats up with flight not being able to turn off flight mode. :confused:

Apparently no one read my post about WM6's broken WiFi in the WM5 A03 thread...*sigh*

Yes, I have tried many times to reset the wifi by soft-resets. However, sometimes it works, other times it doesn't. I posted about the problem yesterday in the WM5 A03 thread so that MagLite would see it before putting out the WM6 release, but that didn't happen.

oh idk what happened but after clicking randomly in the settings my power light stopped flashing

If you run into this problem again, give us (especially for MagLite's sake) more detailed info. For instance, is it flashing quickly or slowly? What color is it flashing? Is it consistent?

1337woody
11th August 2007, 08:35 PM
Sorry dude I misunderstood. I thought that it was just wpa that was messed up. And as for the blinking light, it was blinking in sync with the wifi light. well Sorry I cant be more specific but I think it stopped when I clicked on the usb to pc icon. As for speed,still pretty good with a couple apps. ive got 2 media players, aim, an app to turn off my screen, and 2 bluetoothing apps. also put on the fs keyboard, at first it takes awhile to launch but then works fair. power light was flashing green

blazingwolf
11th August 2007, 08:55 PM
WiFi is working just fine for me. I am not using WPA-PSK though.

JD8052
11th August 2007, 09:26 PM
JD8052, yes it's possible :)

I'm working on windows live bug...

//MagLite


That's great, I just bought an x50v yesterday, can't wait for it to get here!

satnile
11th August 2007, 09:47 PM
I know everyone is finding that as soon as you flash the new WM6 ROM to your Axim, all of the sudden your Axim seems to be flying (very quick). But, as some of you might recall, the same thing appears to happen even on WM5 A01-A03 right after a flash or a hard-reset. This occurs for the simple reason that your device is, at that point, in its most bare, uncluttered (essentially uncluttered) state.

I would encourage everyone here to load all the programs you had on your device (before flashing to WM6) and *THEN* report on how your device is behaving. Getting on here and saying, "I just flashed to WM6 and my device is way faster than ever before!!!..." is perhaps the dumbest comment that could be made. :rolleyes: Just to reiterate my above point, *any newly flashed device is going to be faster than a device loaded down with programs*.

Mine is still lightening fast compared to when it was running under dell's WM5 A02, I am using the following softwares now:

TTN6
Resco explorer 2007
Real one player
KRally
Atomic Cannon
Vidya task manager
SPB pocket plus

All of them running really smoothly.

I managed to connect wirelessly only once using WPA-PSK after the first hard reset, but it stopped working after installing the other softwares. Hope this can be fixed.

Overall still very impressed by the performance of this rom, a real reincarnation of my X50v.

thanks

satnile

xmobile
11th August 2007, 10:29 PM
I cannot load the fu*king SD Image Loader. What did I do wrong?

it always said restore the fu*king factory setting and the loader didn't run.

Sorry for my bad word. I just can't wait to update. :(

digitalrhino
11th August 2007, 10:39 PM
I've found that holding the power+wireless, then pressing the reset button, works for me every time.

mypaisa
11th August 2007, 10:41 PM
pretty pleaase

xmobile
11th August 2007, 10:52 PM
I've found that holding the power+wireless, then pressing the reset button, works for me every time.

It seems not working for me. I have been trying again and again, it just don't load. Hateful mind comes out again. Ah!!!!

icewine
11th August 2007, 10:54 PM
I can't load the image either. After the Power + Wireless + Reset, it will prompt me "To restore factory settings, press "Contact". To Cancel this operation, press "Email". I tried both and not ask me to retore image from SD

Khayyat
11th August 2007, 10:58 PM
Try using a different SD card, I tried 3 different SD cards and only one worked.

icewine
11th August 2007, 11:05 PM
Try using a different SD card, I tried 3 different SD cards and only one worked.
When you use the Good SD card, do you get the same prompt? In which stage you know you have a good SD card?

WraithTDK
11th August 2007, 11:06 PM
Doesn't seem to work for me. I extracted to my SD card, and it sees the card, but when I hit wireless + Power + reset, it just asks if I want to do a factory reset. It never looks for the image. Help?

xmobile
11th August 2007, 11:07 PM
Try using a different SD card, I tried 3 different SD cards and only one worked.

it hurts my hand physically cause I just press the button again and again. What's going on with x50v....

satnile
11th August 2007, 11:11 PM
I can't load the image either. After the Power + Wireless + Reset, it will prompt me "To restore factory settings, press "Contact". To Cancel this operation, press "Email". I tried both and not ask me to retore image from SD

It happened to me as well, while you are on the "restore factory setting", press wireless + power together and then push reset button shortly (in & out quickly), however it is important to keep pressing the wireless + power until you get the sd image then release them. Try several times until you get it right. Hope this will help you.

satnile

xmobile
11th August 2007, 11:16 PM
It happened to me as well, while you are on the "restore factory setting", press wireless + power together and then push reset button shortly (in & out quickly), however it is important to keep pressing the wireless + power until you get the sd image then release them. Try several times until you get it right. Hope this will help you.

satnile

It helps! Thanks man. Now updating!

satnile
11th August 2007, 11:23 PM
It helps! Thanks man. Now updating!

Glad to be of some help.

satnile
11th August 2007, 11:32 PM
WPA-PSK worked great in A03 for many Axim users (including myself). However, it is indeed broken in WM6 A01. Hopefully MagLite can get it fixed up pretty quickly.

This is strange, but WPA-PSK is working fine for me now. Weird as it wasn't, and I can even access xda-developers site fine now. What could it be that fixed it for me?

satnile

cavyman
11th August 2007, 11:52 PM
This is strange, but WPA-PSK is working fine for me now. Weird as it wasn't, and I can even access xda-developers site fine now. What could it be that fixed it for me?

satnile

Trust me, it's not "fixed". It will quit again at some point. I haven't been able to pinpoint exactly when it breaks. It might not come back up after you power it off or soft-reset.

Mine has been doing exactly that since I started beta testing this ROM. It will appear to be working fine, then it quits. It would be great if others could help me pinpoint when it happens so that MagLite can take a look at it.

artvandalay
11th August 2007, 11:56 PM
this is awesome..

only problem is i'm still on wm2003se. and i can't update to wm5 a01 because when i run the installer it wants me to have my pda plugged into a charger.

the bottom pins on my pda are broken. its only chargers when its turned off:( and i can only sync via bluetooth.

is there a way to update to wm5 a01 without having your pda charging...? another know how the hack the installer so that it skips the check for charging?

satnile
12th August 2007, 12:02 AM
Trust me, it's not "fixed". It will quit again at some point. I haven't been able to pinpoint exactly when it breaks. It might not come back up after you power it off or soft-reset.

Mine has been doing exactly that since I started beta testing this ROM. It will appear to be working fine, then it quits. It would be great if others could help me pinpoint when it happens so that MagLite can take a look at it.

You are right cavyman, it is not working now after I've done a soft reset. It could be a flaky driver.
I've also noticed that the Axim gets hotter than it used to be.

icewine
12th August 2007, 12:05 AM
I got it work... hold power and Wireless.... and almost like double click the reset

cavyman
12th August 2007, 12:07 AM
this is awesome..

only problem is i'm still on wm2003se. and i can't update to wm5 a01 because when i run the installer it wants me to have my pda plugged into a charger.

the bottom pins on my pda are broken. its only chargers when its turned off:( and i can only sync via bluetooth.

is there a way to update to wm5 a01 without having your pda charging...? another know how the hack the installer so that it skips the check for charging?

It is possible, yes, but I can't remember right off the top of my head where the info is in order to do that. Check in the WM5 A03 thread (also by MagLite) because I'm pretty sure someone asked the same type of question there and it was answered (I believe).

cavyman
12th August 2007, 12:09 AM
I got it work... hold power and Wireless.... and almost like double click the reset

You should click Reply on the post you are responding to before posting. Otherwise, others might not know what your response is about. :)

1337woody
12th August 2007, 12:36 AM
i guess you could call this a bug, but when you go to turn on the wifi with the side button, it now enables bluetooth instead.

1337woody
12th August 2007, 12:54 AM
hey i noticed something odd in the wlan utility menu, didnt ever notice it in the A03 rom or 2003, maybe im just blind, but after you turn wifi on, the button seems to glitch along with "WLAN ON" not in any exact set time that i can see. just noticed it bc i was staring at my screen with a blank mind. being that sometimes that i can see my router and others not and not being able to connect be a result of the wifi card being tuned on and off repeatedly? could it be that the software would show that its enabled but keeps power cycling for what ever odd reason. also noticed it does it when the wifi card is off, another though, could it be the code for seeing if the card is enabled is not fully operational with the wireless chipset ?

sorry if im being retarded but it was just a thought.

cavyman
12th August 2007, 01:54 AM
hey i noticed something odd in the wlan utility menu, didnt ever notice it in the A03 rom or 2003, maybe im just blind, but after you turn wifi on, the button seems to glitch along with "WLAN ON" not in any exact set time that i can see. just noticed it bc i was staring at my screen with a blank mind. being that sometimes that i can see my router and others not and not being able to connect be a result of the wifi card being tuned on and off repeatedly? could it be that the software would show that its enabled but keeps power cycling for what ever odd reason. also noticed it does it when the wifi card is off, another though, could it be the code for seeing if the card is enabled is not fully operational with the wireless chipset ?

sorry if im being retarded but it was just a thought.

I mentioned something similar to this in the WM5 A03 thread yesterday. I've noticed the same behavior.

satnile
12th August 2007, 02:10 AM
Trust me, it's not "fixed". It will quit again at some point. I haven't been able to pinpoint exactly when it breaks. It might not come back up after you power it off or soft-reset.

Mine has been doing exactly that since I started beta testing this ROM. It will appear to be working fine, then it quits. It would be great if others could help me pinpoint when it happens so that MagLite can take a look at it.

cavyman,

When I go to the WLAN utility, then config tab, then look at the signal quality, I can see there are intermittent good signals coming from my wireless router for a second then it disappears. For some reason this WM6 rom causes malfunction of the WLAN adapter probably due to problem with the WLAN utility driver.

WraithTDK
12th August 2007, 02:56 AM
It happened to me as well, while you are on the "restore factory setting", press wireless + power together and then push reset button shortly (in & out quickly), however it is important to keep pressing the wireless + power until you get the sd image then release them. Try several times until you get it right. Hope this will help you.

satnile

That got it! Thanks man!

cmonex
12th August 2007, 02:56 AM
glad that one more pda has received wm6 :D

kallin
12th August 2007, 03:17 AM
sposibo tebe ot druzey iz new yorka!

I first updated Windows 2003 SE to 2005 and then to 2006. Everything works as advertised :) Thanks for the ROM!

To those who are having problems getting it to read the image... as someone suggested earlier, you need to hold the Power + Wireless for a few seconds before you click Reset and continue holding it until the update screen comes up.
Be patient and don't give up.

cavyman
12th August 2007, 03:26 AM
To those who are having problems getting it to read the image... as someone suggested earlier, you need to hold the Power + Wireless for a few seconds before you click Reset and continue holding it until the update screen comes up.
Be patient and don't give up.

Actually, there is no requirement on how long you hold Power + Wireless *before* tapping Reset. The only catch to the process (and the key to getting into the SD Image Loader) is to *quickly tap* the Reset button. Most people who are not familiar with the process make the mistake of holding in Reset as long as they would for a hard-reset.

blazingwolf
12th August 2007, 04:01 AM
Actually, there is no requirement on how long you hold Power + Wireless *before* tapping Reset. The only catch to the process (and the key to getting into the SD Image Loader) is to *quickly tap* the Reset button. Most people who are not familiar with the process make the mistake of holding in Reset as long as they would for a hard-reset.

I know holding the power and Wireless button before hitting reset worked better for me. I had trouble no matter how quickly I was hitting the soft reset button before doing this.

Empel1960
12th August 2007, 04:21 AM
Hi,

Maglite this version doesn't have office on it?
I can't find excel nor any of the other applications

Regards

cavyman
12th August 2007, 04:30 AM
I know holding the power and Wireless button before hitting reset worked better for me. I had trouble no matter how quickly I was hitting the soft reset button before doing this.

I think you misread what I typed. You *must* hold Power + Wireless *before* tapping Reset. However, what I was saying is that it does not matter how long Power + Reset is held before tapping Reset. What I wrote was in response to the previous post by kallin:

...you need to hold the Power + Wireless for a few seconds before you click Reset...

cavyman
12th August 2007, 04:32 AM
Hi,

Maglite this version doesn't have office on it?
I can't find excel nor any of the other applications

Regards

They're on the Start menu:

Start -> Office Mobile

That will pull up a folder with the office apps in it.

Empel1960
12th August 2007, 04:45 AM
They're on the Start menu:

Start -> Office Mobile

That will pull up a folder with the office apps in it.

Doh...

Thanks cavyman, appreciate your help

1337woody
12th August 2007, 04:55 AM
just thought of something about the wifi issue. i used odyssey client to connect to my wifi and it continues to connect and stay for a few seconds then disconnects, maybe it scans for AP's finds 1 connects but dosent register as so and tries again and reinitiates a scan and the process starts again. now i killed odyssey and it now stays connected.

cavyman
12th August 2007, 05:11 AM
just thought of something about the wifi issue. i used odyssey client to connect to my wifi and it continues to connect and stay for a few seconds then disconnects, maybe it scans for AP's finds 1 connects but dosent register as so and tries again and reinitiates a scan and the process starts again. now i killed odyssey and it now stays connected.

But I can almost guarantee that if you were to soft-reset (or maybe just turn off) your Axim that it will not connect again automatically as it should. I have had no luck whatsoever with Odyssey in WM6. :(

1337woody
12th August 2007, 05:17 AM
actually after connecting with odyssey and then proceeding to quit the app my unit has remained connected as far as i can tell while browsing the net. and i have turned it off 2 or 3 times and it still auto connects without asking for my wep key. maybe temp workaround?

cavyman
12th August 2007, 05:27 AM
actually after connecting with odyssey and then proceeding to quit the app my unit has remained connected as far as i can tell while browsing the net. and i have turned it off 2 or 3 times and it still auto connects without asking for my wep key. maybe temp workaround?

Well, for what it's worth, after not connecting to my wireless all day, I just cradled my Axim to charge it and it connected to my WiFi. :confused: Now it's working fine even off the cradle. :rolleyes:

1337woody
12th August 2007, 05:29 AM
ok never mind that, it showed that i was connected but wasnt working with net so i turned it off and it didnt reconnect this time. on well must have been a fluke. well i guess also for what its worth my odyssey strategy for a 2nd time for me but might just be luck

gil2027
12th August 2007, 05:32 AM
would this rom work on my palm treo 700wx? m currently running WM5.

Please email me at gil2027@gmail.com

thanks

blazingwolf
12th August 2007, 05:33 AM
I think you misread what I typed. You *must* hold Power + Wireless *before* tapping Reset. However, what I was saying is that it does not matter how long Power + Reset is held before tapping Reset. What I wrote was in response to the previous post by kallin:

I didn't misread. I literally had to hold the wireless and power longer (perhaps a couple of seconds) to get this to work. If I didn't then it did not matter how quickly I pressed the soft reset button. Took me about 15 tries to figure this out.

cavyman
12th August 2007, 05:34 AM
would this rom work on my palm treo 700wx? m currently running WM5.

Please email me at gil2027@gmail.com

thanks

No, it is designed specifically for an Axim X50v. You will have to search around for a WM6 ROM for your Treo device.

HappyCow
12th August 2007, 05:47 AM
When I go to the WLAN utility, then config tab, then look at the signal quality, I can see there are intermittent good signals coming from my wireless router for a second then it disappears. For some reason this WM6 rom causes malfunction of the WLAN adapter probably due to problem with the WLAN utility driver.

Trust me, it's not "fixed". It will quit again at some point. I haven't been able to pinpoint exactly when it breaks. It might not come back up after you power it off or soft-reset.

Mine has been doing exactly that since I started beta testing this ROM. It will appear to be working fine, then it quits.

I have noticed both of the above wifi behaviors with my x50v when using WPA-PSK with the wm6 A01 rom. I was having similar problems with Dell's own wm5 A02 and looking for a solution led me to this site and this new rom.

What I have found so far is that:

when the x50v is having connection problems in WPA-PSK mode I can get it to connect by disabling and re-enabling wifi using the side button (sometimes needs to be cycled more then once)
the x50v will always be unable to connect after a reset
once connected it seems to be ok for long periods of time (I streamed an audio book for about 5 hours today without a problem)
if wifi connects ok then it seems to connect properly again after a power on and off
I have seen very occasional wifi connection glitching but it seems to reconnect on its own if it had good connection


I have not tried the wm5 A03 but I may give it a shot if it works better.

cavyman
12th August 2007, 05:55 AM
I have noticed both of the above wifi behaviors with my x50v when using WPA-PSK with the wm6 A01 rom. I was having similar problems with Dell's own wm5 A02 and looking for a solution led me to this site and this new rom.

What I have found so far is that:
when the x50v is having connection problems in WPA-PSK mode I can get it to connect by disabling and re-enabling wifi using the side button (sometimes needs to be cycled more then once)
the x50v will always be unable to connect after a reset
once connected it seems to be ok for long periods of time (I streamed an audio book for about 5 hours today without a problem)
if wifi connects ok then it seems to connect properly again after a power on and off
I have seen very occasional wifi connection glitching but it seems to reconnect on its own if it had good connectionI have not tried wm5 A03 but may give it a shot if it works better

That is an excellent behavior list! :D Great job! That covers all of the symptoms I've noticed also. Thank you for compiling that list--it will give MagLite a good idea of the wireless issues WPA-PSK users are running into.

I never had a single problem with wireless, regardless of encryption type, in WM5 A03. I'm going to hang on a few more days with WM6 in hopes that MagLite will get the WPA-PSK issues fixed. Otherwise, I will probably be one of many that will go back to WM5 A03 just for the simple fact that we need our internet. ;)

1337woody
12th August 2007, 05:55 AM
alright im going to pitch in my 2 cents here and leave the wifi alone and wont touch it with a 10 foot stick. it has a mind of its own and will work if it feels like it. there.

landaleav
12th August 2007, 09:03 AM
MagLite! I really appreciate your services, but the problem is that I've x50 (non V). I upgraded from WM2003SE to WM5 as per your instructions. After that, I followed as per your instructions to upgrade to WM6. After the last hard reset, the device is not booting. It says some memory error when battery is removed and inserted again but it goes blank if booted normally. I've tried to do the same thing couple of times, but to no avail. I also tried WM5 version for SD cards (given here:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=313081) and that is giving the same problem. If my problem is solved, I'm happy to donate a bit as well. Cheers!

landaleav
12th August 2007, 10:47 AM
My pda (Axim X50) was working fine with WM5 before I tried to install WM6 with SD card. Now I would like to go to any OS, whether it is WM2003SE or WM5/WM6. :( :confused:

satnile
12th August 2007, 11:24 AM
That is an excellent behavior list! :D Great job! That covers all of the symptoms I've noticed also. Thank you for compiling that list--it will give MagLite a good idea of the wireless issues WPA-PSK users are running into.

I never had a single problem with wireless, regardless of encryption type, in WM5 A03. I'm going to hang on a few more days with WM6 in hopes that MagLite will get the WPA-PSK issues fixed. Otherwise, I will probably be one of many that will go back to WM5 A03 just for the simple fact that we need our internet. ;)

But where is MagLite, hope you're alright our friend.

Best wishes.

arteagac
12th August 2007, 11:35 AM
I keep getting an update failed when when I try to do the update. It states "Only Fat 32 supported"

I have reformatted the SD card as a FAT 32. There are only two files right? Has anyone else had this problem? Thanks

makuu
12th August 2007, 11:48 AM
My pda (Axim X50) was working fine with WM5 before I tried to install WM6 with SD card. Now I would like to go to any OS, whether it is WM2003SE or WM5/WM6. :( :confused:

If you own an x50, why did you flash it with an x50v rom, it's a different device of course it will brick your x50. You can recover by flashing it back to WM5. I guess that you have the WM5 x50 nb0, remember never flash to a new rom nb0, if you don't have your own nb0 to recover.

satnile
12th August 2007, 12:12 PM
I have noticed both of the above wifi behaviors with my x50v when using WPA-PSK with the wm6 A01 rom. I was having similar problems with Dell's own wm5 A02 and looking for a solution led me to this site and this new rom.

What I have found so far is that:

when the x50v is having connection problems in WPA-PSK mode I can get it to connect by disabling and re-enabling wifi using the side button (sometimes needs to be cycled more then once)
the x50v will always be unable to connect after a reset
once connected it seems to be ok for long periods of time (I streamed an audio book for about 5 hours today without a problem)
if wifi connects ok then it seems to connect properly again after a power on and off
I have seen very occasional wifi connection glitching but it seems to reconnect on its own if it had good connection


I have not tried the wm5 A03 but I may give it a shot if it works better.

The wifi connection is really temperamental, but when it works it's solid & excellent.

landaleav
12th August 2007, 01:11 PM
If you own an x50, why did you flash it with an x50v rom, it's a different device of course it will brick your x50. You can recover by flashing it back to WM5. I guess that you have the WM5 x50 nb0, remember never flash to a new rom nb0, if you don't have your own nb0 to recover.

omg! I thought that x50 and x50v are the same. So it means that MagLite's thing cannot work on x50. I actually don't have nb0 file for wm5. If nb0 file link can be given for x50, that'll be great because I've tried for x50v, and it gives the same problem. Even if nb0 is available for WM2003SE for x50, I'm more than happy. Thanks in advance!

makuu
12th August 2007, 01:47 PM
omg! I thought that x50 and x50v are the same. So it means that MagLite's thing cannot work on x50. I actually don't have nb0 file for wm5. If nb0 file link can be given for x50, that'll be great because I've tried for x50v, and it gives the same problem. Even if nb0 is available for WM2003SE for x50, I'm more than happy. Thanks in advance!

You are really new in this domain, WM2003SE nb0 won't boot on your device because you already have a WM5 bootloader. The WM5 nb0 you were suppose to dump it from your device before trying to flash it with a new nb0.

landaleav
12th August 2007, 02:07 PM
You are really new in this domain, WM2003SE nb0 won't boot on your device because you already have a WM5 bootloader. The WM5 nb0 you were suppose to dump it from your device before trying to flash it with a new nb0.

It is very true that I am new in this domain. You are also right that WM2003SE will not help me now. I'm ready to pay $20 to anyone who can give me a .nf0 file for WM5 for x50. Please!!!!:confused:

Note:Just tell me your email address for paypal and I'll just send money.

satnile
12th August 2007, 02:11 PM
The wifi connection is really temperamental, but when it works it's solid & excellent.

WPA-PSK still working after several times of disabling and enabling wifi and switching on & off. However, after a soft reset, it's lost again, but after just few times of enabling and disabling wifi, it came back again, but you need to re-enter your wifi password in order to reconnect.

ymlin123
12th August 2007, 02:18 PM
I will probably be one of many that will go back to WM5 A03 just for the simple fact that we need our internet. ;)

How to downgrade to WM5A03 from WM6?

satnile
12th August 2007, 02:20 PM
It is very true that I am new in this domain. You are also right that WM2003SE will not help me now. I'm ready to pay $20 to anyone who can give me a .nf0 file for WM5 for x50. Please!!!!:confused:

Note:Just tell me your email address for paypal and I'll just send money.

Try this thread:

http://www.aximsite.com/boards/x50-x51-forums/105233-sd-card-boot-force-rom-upgrade-method.html

You probably need to create your own nb0 & CRC files from the original WM5 rom of the X50, using various tools mentioned in the thread.

Good luck in reviving your X50.

stefko
12th August 2007, 02:23 PM
I have an X50v with a german WM2003SE ROM (A02). Is it possible to use the ROM Updates for WM5 and WM6 from the first site to upgrade it, or would i brick my device by doing so? I want to be 100% sure before doing it, i don't want to lose this great handheld.

And one more question - how can this be legal to give out those ROMs?

Thanks in advance for any help!

blipmusic
12th August 2007, 03:10 PM
What about Axims in other languages? Is there any way to upgrade a Japanese WM 2003 SE Axim x50v with this?

There is an official upgrade for WM 2003 SE in Japanese so I'm guessing that I can change the system language to English using THIS (http://forum.brighthand.com/showthread.php?t=214227&highlight=japanese+english+rom) hex edit method. But if I were to do that I believe that the device itself is only *fooled* into thinking I'm loading it with a Japanese ROM, i.e. I'll have a fully working English 2003 SE OS only the device thinks it's loaded with a Japanese ROM (due to the hex editing).

Another problem is that there doesn't seem to exist a Japanese WM5 Upgrade ROM at all, meaning I can't re-try the hexedit trick to fool my device. And even if there was one wouldn't this new WM6 image complain that my device is Japanese? (i.e even though my ROM is in English, my device still identifies it as a Japanese ROM hindering an upgrade to WM6) I'm sorry, am I making any sense? I've tried searching numerous forums to no avail and the only one I could find was relating on upgrades for each specific OS ver being available in both the source language and the target language (to be able to get the correct HEX string in the beginning of the ROM) :)

Even though it might not be possible to upgrade my Japanese Axim I think this is simply *fantastic* work by MagLite!

Edit: Wrong device, but is something like THIS (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298636&highlight=change+language) and/or THIS (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=311078&highlight=change+language) possible? Note: I don't care whether the device will end up in English or Japanese, either is fine.

Edit 2: If it's alright to link to the nb0:s I found the one for going from 2003 SE to WM5 A01 HERE (http://www.todaysppc.com/blog/?id=axim_user&uid=kjd2338&no=330) for those in need (the 2003 SE to WM5 A01 upgrade download is the one called AximX50v_WM5_A01_EN_fr2k3.rar and includes all needed files, including bootloader and crc). This seems to originate from Aximsite but the thread over there seems to be gone.

makuu
12th August 2007, 03:55 PM
The bootloader is not language dependent, it means that as long as you have a WM5 bootloader you can flash Maglite's Rom. Also you can rebuild the nb0 with the proper language pack using mamaich and bepe tools available in this forum.

blipmusic
12th August 2007, 04:03 PM
The bootloader is not language dependent, it means that as long as you have a WM5 bootloader you can flash Maglite's Rom. Also you can rebuild the nb0 with the proper language pack using mamaich and bepe tools available in this forum.

Exactly what I was hoping to hear, thank you! I'll go WM5 bootloader hunting, then. :)

stefko
12th August 2007, 04:12 PM
What exactly is the bootloader? Isn't it just that Desktop upgrade application? Isn't it included?

THUDUK
12th August 2007, 04:18 PM
I have just upgraded my x50v from the WM5 A03 to this WM6 version and so far it is running as good if not better, not quite sure of the overall changes so far but only did it this morning...

Great work though...

cocofish
12th August 2007, 04:22 PM
thank you for maglite to make X50v become younger and freash.

I had a problem about ,
if I upgrade from WM5 A02 rom.

Is it possible or any impact will cause?

cocofishwong@sinaman.com

cavyman
12th August 2007, 04:27 PM
What exactly is the bootloader? Isn't it just that Desktop upgrade application? Isn't it included?

No, the bootloader is a utility that goes into the boot area of your Axim's memory. It remains on your Axim even after any type of reset. It has nothing directly to do with a desktop application.

WM2003(SE) has a different bootloader than WM5 and WM6. However, the bootloader for WM5 and WM6 are interchangeable because there is no difference in the way that WM5 and WM6 work with the filesystem of your device. WM2003(SE) had a different type of filesystem (don't want to get into the details here) than WM5 and WM6.

The bootloader for WM6 is not included in MagLite's .rar file. Again, it is the same bootloader as is used for WM5, so that's why if you follow MagLite's directions, you will be using the correct bootloader. :)

cavyman
12th August 2007, 04:30 PM
It is very true that I am new in this domain. You are also right that WM2003SE will not help me now. I'm ready to pay $20 to anyone who can give me a .nf0 file for WM5 for x50. Please!!!!:confused:

Note:Just tell me your email address for paypal and I'll just send money.

MagLite, can you edit the title of this thread so that new users (or people who just don't read instructions) will plainly know that this ROM is not for and X50? Possibly something like this:

Dell Axim X50v (**NOT FOR X50**) WM6 A01 ROM (MagLite Edition) (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1433306#post1433306)

satnile
12th August 2007, 04:30 PM
thank you for maglite to make X50v become younger and freash.

I had a problem about ,
if I upgrade from WM5 A02 rom.

Is it possible or any impact will cause?

cocofishwong@sinaman.com

If you change from WM5 AO2 to WM6, the only impact that will happen to your X50v, is its complete revival. Hope you will understand this.

landaleav
12th August 2007, 04:40 PM
Try this thread:

http://www.aximsite.com/boards/x50-x51-forums/105233-sd-card-boot-force-rom-upgrade-method.html

You probably need to create your own nb0 & CRC files from the original WM5 rom of the X50, using various tools mentioned in the thread.

Good luck in reviving your X50.

I have .ris file which I have from the back up of my WM2003SE. Can that be helpful in restoring my bricked device i.e. conversion of .ris into .nf0

landaleav
12th August 2007, 04:41 PM
MagLite, can you edit the title of this thread so that new users (or people who just don't read instructions) will plainly know that this ROM is not for and X50? Possibly something like this:

Dell Axim X50v (**NOT FOR X50**) WM6 A01 ROM (MagLite Edition) (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1433306#post1433306)

I think it'll be very useful for everybody. Especially people like me, who are in real trouble now. :(

leegoon84
12th August 2007, 05:32 PM
I've been using it for 3 days and it just works fine.

I installed my spd diary and other pda essentials and tweaked Registry like WM5.0 and i can assure you that it runs faster than wm5.0

landaleav
12th August 2007, 05:39 PM
I think it'll be very useful for everybody. Especially people like me, who are in real trouble now. :(

Finally, I've got my device back on track. For anyone with my problem, read following two threads. And your problem is solved. :D :D :D

landaleav
12th August 2007, 05:43 PM
Finally, I've got my device back on track. For anyone with my problem, read following two threads. And your problem is solved. :D :D :D

http://www.aximsite.com/boards/x50-x51-forums/137015-tutorial-how-revive-bricked-x51-v-using-dommes-sd-rom-loader-tutorial.html

search on google:

cache:http://www.aximsite.com/boards/showthread.php?p=957573

DrBios
12th August 2007, 06:04 PM
when i soft reset ... some times it just stop loading and i have to perform a hard reset to (selecting the cancel option ) to restart the unit ... that is very weird ... i gonna keep searching for this bug

dgege
12th August 2007, 06:15 PM
when i soft reset ... some times it just stop loading and i have to perform a hard reset to (selecting the cancel option ) to restart the unit ... that is very weird ... i gonna keep searching for this bug

I have the exact same problem ! It's weird. It stops at around 80-90%. Then I have to fake a hard reset and it reloads. And also, it doesn't happen every softreset, I would say one in 4 or 5.

fanpengyuan
12th August 2007, 06:15 PM
That looks good MagLite! Please relase a X51v version sooner!

Thanks!

DrBios
12th August 2007, 06:42 PM
I have the exact same problem ! It's weird. It stops at around 80-90%. Then I have to fake a hard reset and it reloads. And also, it doesn't happen every softreset, I would say one in 4 or 5.

try without any sdcard or cf card ...
by now i am in the 15th softreset without anu card inserted and it doesn't stop at all
i am guessing ... but i believe that sdcard have some responsabilitie on this


new info ... at the 30th it's stop again ... sdcard is not guilty i guess

DrBios
12th August 2007, 06:55 PM
try without any sdcard or cf card ...
by now i am in the 15th softreset without anu card inserted and it doesn't stop at all
i am guessing ... but i believe that sdcard have some responsabilitie on this

new info ,,, in the 30th soft reset its stop again

meklord
12th August 2007, 07:26 PM
works awesome, my only problem now is that microsoft reader maxes out the cpu instead of idling low. eats the batteries quick.

jowilk
12th August 2007, 07:46 PM
hi, on the first page pls. put "read the whole thread before flashing". it seems there are alot of people who think they can just flash the new rom blindly not thinking about what they are doing. find out how deep the water is before jumping of the end of the pier! thanks

satnile
12th August 2007, 07:57 PM
WPA-PSK still working after several times of disabling and enabling wifi and switching on & off. However, after a soft reset, it's lost again, but after just few times of enabling and disabling wifi, it came back again, but you need to re-enter your wifi password in order to reconnect.

Wifi still working fine here, using opera and IE as web browsers. I have no problem now using this great WM6 rom.

tinycg
12th August 2007, 08:25 PM
I've experienced similar wi-fi issues, currently it connects then disconnects after a minute or two and then no longer connects. Sometimes a canceled hard-reset fixes it, sometimes it reports a memory error, and sometimes it hangs on a soft reset.

The upgrade and install went swimmingly, still trying to narrow down the problem, I love WM6, certainly has given new life to my Axim, THANKS, just hope I can get it happy.

vinkap
12th August 2007, 08:34 PM
Congratulations on the great work. Looking forward for the X51v version :)

DrBios
12th August 2007, 08:43 PM
bluetooth not working with my pc ... i can't even pair the device with my pc

DrBios
12th August 2007, 09:13 PM
i found than x50v can't connect to internet staying on the cradle ...
i found a solution in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1410652
using this reg values for activesync 4.5 (it came from the same problem on activesync 4.2 )

just put this on a .reg file

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows CE Services]
"AllowLSP"=dword:00000000

satnile
12th August 2007, 09:21 PM
bluetooth not working with my pc ... i can't even pair the device with my pc

BT working fine with my pc and my mobile qtek 9100. Have you made the X50v discoverable by going to setting > connection > bluetooth?

Mindfield
12th August 2007, 09:22 PM
I signed up here specifically because of this thread. I've been running WM5 A03 since it was released, and although better than A01, it was still buggy and problematic and I really stopped using my PDA for all sort of things because I just didn't want to further degrade the device's stability and performance. Once I found out about this though I got excited. I performed the flash and it went off without a hitch, though I had to use a FAT32-formatted 256mb card because it couldn't seem to find a valid ROM when I placed it on the root of my 4GB OCZ card.

After flashing, the system performance was markedly improved. I've since loaded up a number of applications: Wisbar Advance 2.8.3, Chronos 2.10, TrueConnect, MegaMAME CE3, Obulis and Obulis TSE, My Converter Pro, SPB Weather, Syntrax, Netfront 3.3, and TCPMP. So far, absolutely no problems with any of them. No problems with WiFi, though I have encountered a few glitches though:

1. As some others have experienced, I've seen the system hang at about 80-90% loaded and had to perform the hard-reset/cancel to get it back.

2. Once, and only once so far, a reset has garbled the screen as soon as it got to the Windows Mobile load screen and then to the Today. By "garbled" I mean it looks a lot like switching to an unsupported resolution or refresh rate on an old CRT monitor; it's garbled, flickery, and skewed. This happened after doing a soft reset after having installed Namco's Super Pac-Man. It didn't play in proper resolution (quarter screen QVGA) so that may have had something to do with it. I uninstalled it after this happened and it hasn't happened since, so hopefully it was a one-time thing.

3. There's no network connection when cradled. I can sync and transfer stuff between the two, but it can't connect to the internet unless wireless is enabled. This is almost definitely NOT related to the WM6 installation though, as I had it with WM5 A03, too.

Although I've barely been using it for a full day yet, I can say that so far it's exceptionally solid and stable, and everything seems to work as well as or better than it did under WM5. Of course, running Wisbar does slow things down a bit so it's a tough call sometimes, but WM5 was pretty unstable, so if stability is all I get out of this I will be unbelievably happy.

Heaps of thanks and praise to MagLite for this sweet hack. I'd been really thinking about getting an X51v just for the added stability of a unit that was made with WM5 in mind. If my X50v keeps going as well as it's been going, I'll be glad that I didn't. I'm actually enjoying using my Ax again!

I'm still wondering how SDHC support would work. I thought this was a hardware and software problem? Has anyone successfully used an SDHC card?

DrBios
12th August 2007, 09:28 PM
I signed up here specifically because of this thread. I've been running WM5 A03 since it was released, and although better than A01, it was still buggy and problematic and I really stopped using my PDA for all sort of things because I just didn't want to further degrade the device's stability and performance. Once I found out about this though I got excited. I performed the flash and it went off without a hitch, though I had to use a FAT32-formatted 256mb card because it couldn't seem to find a valid ROM when I placed it on the root of my 4GB OCZ card.

After flashing, the system performance was markedly improved. I've since loaded up a number of applications: Wisbar Advance 2.8.3, Chronos 2.10, TrueConnect, MegaMAME CE3, Obulis and Obulis TSE, My Converter Pro, SPB Weather, Syntrax, Netfront 3.3, and TCPMP. So far, absolutely no problems with any of them. No problems with WiFi, though I have encountered a few glitches though:

1. As some others have experienced, I've seen the system hang at about 80-90% loaded and had to perform the hard-reset/cancel to get it back.

2. Once, and only once so far, a reset has garbled the screen as soon as it got to the Windows Mobile load screen and then to the Today. By "garbled" I mean it looks a lot like switching to an unsupported resolution or refresh rate on an old CRT monitor; it's garbled, flickery, and skewed. This happened after doing a soft reset after having installed Namco's Super Pac-Man. It didn't play in proper resolution (quarter screen QVGA) so that may have had something to do with it. I uninstalled it after this happened and it hasn't happened since, so hopefully it was a one-time thing.

3. There's no network connection when cradled. I can sync and transfer stuff between the two, but it can't connect to the internet unless wireless is enabled. This is almost definitely NOT related to the WM6 installation though, as I had it with WM5 A03, too.

Although I've barely been using it for a full day yet, I can say that so far it's exceptionally solid and stable, and everything seems to work as well as or better than it did under WM5. Of course, running Wisbar does slow things down a bit so it's a tough call sometimes, but WM5 was pretty unstable, so if stability is all I get out of this I will be unbelievably happy.

Heaps of thanks and praise to MagLite for this sweet hack. I'd been really thinking about getting an X51v just for the added stability of a unit that was made with WM5 in mind. If my X50v keeps going as well as it's been going, I'll be glad that I didn't. I'm actually enjoying using my Ax again!

I'm still wondering how SDHC support would work. I thought this was a hardware and software problem? Has anyone successfully used an SDHC card?

for the conection problem on cradle see above

Mindfield
12th August 2007, 09:28 PM
i found than x50v can't connect to internet staying on the cradle ...
i found a solution in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1410652
using this reg values for activesync 4.5 (it came from the same problem on activesync 4.2 )

just put this on a .reg file

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows CE Services]
"AllowLSP"=dword:00000000

Sweet! That actually worked, thanks!

Zeus_Alex
12th August 2007, 09:28 PM
Hello WM6 working fine here...

I have the same problems as stated above, but overall, is working great...
My biggest problem is Windows Live... Any news about that?
And the Windows Update has the same symptoms of Live Messenger...
They dont conect thru wireless...Strange, because i tried all versions of live messenger and they all do the same...

Thank you...

DrBios
12th August 2007, 09:45 PM
Why? ... i notice than when you change those folders to Sdcard or ramdisk Some aplications like messenger live and google map and some other still using this folder on the main memory

ziggz
12th August 2007, 10:51 PM
I extracted the files and put them on a 1gb SD card, pushed the wireless+power+reset, but it never loads the image on the SD card. Any help?

Here is the trick that seems to be left out. Hold down wireless+power first, then while continuing to hold, quickly press the reset button and let go, CONTINUE to hold the wireless+power buttons until the SD image loader boots up.

ziggz
12th August 2007, 10:56 PM
cavyman,

When I go to the WLAN utility, then config tab, then look at the signal quality, I can see there are intermittent good signals coming from my wireless router for a second then it disappears. For some reason this WM6 rom causes malfunction of the WLAN adapter probably due to problem with the WLAN utility driver.

I'm using maglites WM5 A03 rom and every 10 seconds or so the connection drops and for a second or two.. is this the same thing you're experiencing?? But I wasnt sure what's going on here...

satnile
12th August 2007, 11:23 PM
It happened to me as well, while you are on the "restore factory setting", press wireless + power together and then push reset button shortly (in & out quickly), however it is important to keep pressing the wireless + power until you get the sd image then release them. Try several times until you get it right. Hope this will help you.

satnile

ziggz, I explained this early on in this very thread.

makuu
12th August 2007, 11:46 PM
MagLite, well congratulation for your hard work, I have been testing your rom for few hours, and I noticed the following bug : word completion is not working while using the internal keyboard. However it works on Football x51v WM6 ROM.

cavyman
12th August 2007, 11:46 PM
That looks good MagLite! Please relase a X51v version sooner!

Thanks!

Congratulations on the great work. Looking forward for the X51v version :)

Football is the one working on the X51v ROM, not MagLite. They collaborate efforts a good bit, but you all need to get on the X51v thread and leave "hurry up" messages for Football. :cool:

cavyman
12th August 2007, 11:59 PM
hi, on the first page pls. put "read the whole thread before flashing". it seems there are alot of people who think they can just flash the new rom blindly not thinking about what they are doing. find out how deep the water is before jumping of the end of the pier! thanks

This has been mentioned and suggested by me and others many times in this thread and the WM5 A03 thread. But thanks for being our classic example of why we need it to be mentioned. ;)

ziggz
13th August 2007, 12:04 AM
I'm using maglites WM5 A03 rom and every 10 seconds or so the connection drops and for a second or two.. is this the same thing you're experiencing?? But I wasnt sure what's going on here...

Okay to elaborate.. I did some testing and it seems when I'm using WPA, i get frequent connection drops every 10 seconds for a second or two. However, using WEP or no encryption.. results in no connection drops. My laptop using an 802.11g doesn't have any problem connecting via WPA. Anyone have a guess if it's the router or the axim? I had a previous buffalo wireless router that connected with WPA just fine, no connection drops...

cavyman
13th August 2007, 12:15 AM
thank you for maglite to make X50v become younger and freash.

I had a problem about ,
if I upgrade from WM5 A02 rom.

Is it possible or any impact will cause?

cocofishwong@sinaman.com

CocoFish, I'm not sure if anyone else e-mailed you already, but I'll answer this here for others to see also.

There is no problem with upgrading to WM6 from WM5 A02. The only thing that really matters is that your Axim *MUST* have the WM5 bootloader. The WM5 bootloader is something that is included in the Dell RUU (Dell ROM upgrade utility) for Dell's WM5 A01 and A02 ROMs. So, you can upgrade to WM6 from WM5 A01, A02, or A03 because if you have any of those revisions, you (obviously) will have installed the WM5 bootloader on your device at some point before.

Essentially, when you do the upgrade or downgrade between WM5 and WM6, the only thing that remains untouched on your device after the process is completed is the bootloader*. The bootloader is stored in a "safe" area of your Axim's memory that is not cleared during an upgrade or downgrade of your Axim. The kernel area of the memory is what is changed by the upgrade/downgrade.

*Please note: The bootloader for WM5 and WM6 is different than the bootloader for WM2003(SE). Therefore, the upgrade/downgrade process between WM2003(SE) and WM5 or WM6 does change the bootloader itself.

cavyman
13th August 2007, 12:19 AM
Okay to elaborate.. I did some testing and it seems when I'm using WPA, i get frequent connection drops every 10 seconds for a second or two. However, using WEP or no encryption.. results in no connection drops. My laptop using an 802.11g doesn't have any problem connecting via WPA. Anyone have a guess if it's the router or the axim? I had a previous buffalo wireless router that connected with WPA just fine, no connection drops...

Ziggz, it is not a router problem. It does have to do with the WiFi driver on WM6 in the way it handles WPA connectivity. However, everything you just wrote has already been addressed earlier in this thread. Please take some time and read through the entire thread if you haven't already--this will help acquaint you with what has already been discussed.

tinycg
13th August 2007, 12:19 AM
Has anyone had issues with their x50v not powering on, I thought it was a fluke but its now happened twice for me, I've been able to power it on after doing the battery trick, taking it out and putting it back in and doing a hard reset.

It then comes up stating a memory error. Is this a hardware problem? I hadnt had this problem in WM2003SE or WM5.

Once I cancel and if it doesnt hang, it boots, if it hangs I soft reset it and it seems to boot and is happy for the time being.

ziggz
13th August 2007, 12:26 AM
Ziggz, it is not a router problem. It does have to do with the WiFi driver on WM6 in the way it handles WPA connectivity. However, everything you just wrote has already been addressed earlier in this thread. Please take some time and read through the entire thread if you haven't already--this will help acquaint you with what has already been discussed.

Hi cavyman, I actually did read the entire thread in full. No one explicitly defined the problem as I did above as having "frequent connection drops". From what I gathered, it seems like people are not able to connect at all using WPA unless they turn on/off the WLAN adapter several times. I wanted to make sure the problem I was experiencing is identical to the ones you guys are having as frequent connection drops every 10 seconds or so.

satnile
13th August 2007, 12:36 AM
Hi cavyman, I actually did read the entire thread in full. No one explicitly defined the problem as I did above as having "frequent connection drops". From what I gathered, it seems like people are not able to connect at all using WPA unless they turn on/off the WLAN adapter several times. I wanted to make sure the problem I was experiencing is identical to the ones you guys are having as frequent connection drops every 10 seconds or so.

ziggz, the answer is no, once the wifi connection is established using WPA-PSK encryption, it stays solid until a soft reset happens then you have to reestablish the connection somehow again. This happens for me at least.

ziggz
13th August 2007, 12:36 AM
ziggz, I explained this early on in this very thread.

I'm sorry, I was reading in order of the posts and hit the reply when I saw that post. I guess this at least contradicts cavyman's assertion that I didn't read the entire thread :D

meklord
13th August 2007, 12:44 AM
my wifi is solid but i am not using encryption out here in the boonies.

cavyman
13th August 2007, 01:28 AM
Hi cavyman, I actually did read the entire thread in full. No one explicitly defined the problem as I did above as having "frequent connection drops". From what I gathered, it seems like people are not able to connect at all using WPA unless they turn on/off the WLAN adapter several times. I wanted to make sure the problem I was experiencing is identical to the ones you guys are having as frequent connection drops every 10 seconds or so.

Actually, I have experienced all of the wireless problems mentioned in this thread while I as beta testing this ROM. I mentioned frequent connection drops in another thread. So, I have sent several messages to MagLite about the wireless problems--hopefully we will see a fix for it sometime soon.

cavyman
13th August 2007, 01:34 AM
my wifi is solid but i am not using encryption out here in the boonies.

I'm glad it's working for you. However, it has already been established that the problem is with connecting via WPA encryption.

Everyone, let's try to keep posts in this thread relevant to problems/bugs. Try to keep up with what has been posted so we can cut down on irrelevant posts. :)

Empel1960
13th August 2007, 02:15 AM
Maybe I'm wrong, but Maglite stated that WPA, WPA-PSK is out of the ROM

Hello everybody!

GPRS via bluetooth now works! (thanks to misar).
Bugs founded by beta-testers - patched!
Error Reporting - disabled by default!
SDHC - works! (tested on 8GB SDHC Card).
Added BT FTP (by HTC) - works!
New Wi-Fi encryption standarts (WPA2 & WPA2-PSK) not added because it not supported by 802.11b standart...

Original post (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=313081&page=21)

cavyman
13th August 2007, 02:28 AM
Maybe I'm wrong, but Maglite stated that WPA, WPA-PSK is out of the ROM

Hello everybody!

GPRS via bluetooth now works! (thanks to misar).
Bugs founded by beta-testers - patched!
Error Reporting - disabled by default!
SDHC - works! (tested on 8GB SDHC Card).
Added BT FTP (by HTC) - works!
New Wi-Fi encryption standarts (WPA2 & WPA2-PSK) not added because it not supported by 802.11b standart...

Original post (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=313081&page=21)

:confused: This post disappoints me (it couldn't be more wrong).

In much the same way that an X50 is not the same as an X50v, WPA2 & WPA2-PSK is not the same as WPA & WPA-PSK. WPA (and WPA-PSK, which is a derivative of WPA) is not removed from this ROM. WPA2 could not be included with the X50v ROM even though WM6 supports it because the X50v hardware will not support WPA2. WPA2 uses hardware encryption/decryption which 802.11b hardware did not support. This was a big reason there was a push for wireless-g (802.11g) because 802.11g hardware must support hardware based encryption/decryption (regardless of whether it's actually used).

3dot
13th August 2007, 02:56 AM
Any one can use wififofum?
It show no ap,but built in wifi utility have severals access point and all signal strength show "BEST"!!!
It is abnormal that all ap is "best".
Feel wm6 wifi driver is broken

3dot
13th August 2007, 03:20 AM
i found than x50v can't connect to internet staying on the cradle ...
i found a solution in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1410652
using this reg values for activesync 4.5 (it came from the same problem on activesync 4.2 )

just put this on a .reg file

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows CE Services]
"AllowLSP"=dword:00000000


I can connect to internet on cradle in default.

Try to disable your firewall
My firewall zonealarm recognise x50v as network modem or something else,and add an ip for this.
It block all my connection included sync with my pc.Of course,no internet connect is allowed.
I put this ip to "trusted zone".All fixed

Mindfield
13th August 2007, 03:55 AM
Has anyone had issues with their x50v not powering on, I thought it was a fluke but its now happened twice for me, I've been able to power it on after doing the battery trick, taking it out and putting it back in and doing a hard reset.

It then comes up stating a memory error. Is this a hardware problem? I hadnt had this problem in WM2003SE or WM5.

Once I cancel and if it doesnt hang, it boots, if it hangs I soft reset it and it seems to boot and is happy for the time being.
I had this problem with WM5 A03, though I haven't had it happen yet with WM6. It always seems to happen when it's undocked, and there doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason for it happening. When it does, I can't turn the unit on and must perform a hard reset/fix error, then it will reboot normally. When it happens it also seems to drain the battery, so it's like some process is going on that's keeping the processor active, as the battery gets warm, too, like it's stuck in a tight infinite loop that's maxing out processor speed. If left too long it kills the battery completely. I haven't had this happen yet on WM6, but if that bug is still there I'll find out through the week as I take my Ax to work every day. We'll see how that pans out.

tinycg
13th August 2007, 05:54 AM
I had this problem with WM5 A03, though I haven't had it happen yet with WM6. It always seems to happen when it's undocked, and there doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason for it happening. When it does, I can't turn the unit on and must perform a hard reset/fix error, then it will reboot normally. When it happens it also seems to drain the battery, so it's like some process is going on that's keeping the processor active, as the battery gets warm, too, like it's stuck in a tight infinite loop that's maxing out processor speed. If left too long it kills the battery completely. I haven't had this happen yet on WM6, but if that bug is still there I'll find out through the week as I take my Ax to work every day. We'll see how that pans out.
Thanks Mindfield its nice you know you're not the only one thats experienced a similar ordeal. Now that I think about it, it happened to me on WM5 but not A03 as I downgraded back to 2003 a couple months ago.

Reading elsewhere that it might have something to do with my SD card, I took it out, and havent seen the problem.. but again there is no pattern to it. And yeah it seems to hang in some sort of infinite loop.

The first time it happened was after I undocked it last night after it was running fine for a day. The second time today was after normal use, turned it off.. went to turn it on and nothing until you do as you say.

I notice if it hangs I soft reset it and it runs through the boot process fine. I'm beginning to wonder if maybe the WM5 bootloader on the ROM is slightly corrupted? Would explain why I never saw the issue in 2K3 but had it once in WM5 and now WM6 as the WM5 bootloader would overwrite the 2K3 one.

adcurtin
13th August 2007, 06:39 AM
I just upgraded from WM2003SE to WM5 01 then to WM6 A01. My "Built In Storage" seems to have disappeared. Is this because the os image is too big to warrant formatting the extra ROM space as storage, or is it for some other reason?

Edit: To elaborate on "Built In Storage," I mean the leftover ROM space formatted as a memory card. On iPaqs this is called "iPaq File Store" and on my Axim it was called "Built In Storage." I do not mean the filesystem in RAM (there used to be a slider to set how much is used for RAM and how much is used for storage, I guess that's gone now too.).

THUDUK
13th August 2007, 07:28 AM
Built in storage is only used in WM2003SE and the x50v/x50 etc...

WM5 and WM6 handle memory in a completely different way....

Persistent Memory Storage, the Windows Mobile 5 ROM-RAM paradigm, changes the way Pocket PCs manage data and system memory. Previously, a Pocket PC's internal RAM pulled double duty as both a storage medium and system memory, but Persistent Memory Storage moves Pocket PCs a step closer to PC-like functionality. Like a Desktop PC, the RAM in a WM5 device is used only as system memory, leaving data to be stored in the ROM, which protects it from loss if the Pocket PC's battery is fully drained. With WM5, a drained battery no longer results in data loss.

icewine
13th August 2007, 08:18 AM
I'm still wondering how SDHC support would work. I thought this was a hardware and software problem? Has anyone successfully used an SDHC card?


It works perfect with my 8G SDHC "Partiot Memory"

makuu
13th August 2007, 09:01 AM
Thanks Mindfield its nice you know you're not the only one thats experienced a similar ordeal. Now that I think about it, it happened to me on WM5 but not A03 as I downgraded back to 2003 a couple months ago.

Reading elsewhere that it might have something to do with my SD card, I took it out, and havent seen the problem.. but again there is no pattern to it. And yeah it seems to hang in some sort of infinite loop.

The first time it happened was after I undocked it last night after it was running fine for a day. The second time today was after normal use, turned it off.. went to turn it on and nothing until you do as you say.

I notice if it hangs I soft reset it and it runs through the boot process fine. I'm beginning to wonder if maybe the WM5 bootloader on the ROM is slightly corrupted? Would explain why I never saw the issue in 2K3 but had it once in WM5 and now WM6 as the WM5 bootloader would overwrite the 2K3 one.

There is something you should check about your bootloader:
Which bootloader do you have?
Do you have A01 or A02 bootloader?

I have checked these two bootloaders and there is slight differences on those two.

You should use A02 bootloader, because Maglite used the A02 rom to build both WM5 aku 321 and WM6 rom. Those 2 roms are not so far from the aku 231 rom. But A01 is more different because it's in aku 1.
However I don't even know if MagLite roms can boot with A01 bootlaoder.

All I know is that for the x51v you cannot boot an aku 231 rom and above on the aku 1 bootloader.

Otherwise did anyone having the same problem that I have with Word Completion?

adcurtin
13th August 2007, 09:04 AM
DOH! I can't believe I didn't notice that the storage memory was 90MB (more than all RAM in the device). Thanks for the explanation though THUDUK.

Antineutrino
13th August 2007, 12:35 PM
Hello,
I would like to ask Maglite if it could be possible to hack the bootloader to load Operating System from SD Card instead of Built in Rom... This could improve the responsiveness of the NOR rom equipped x50v with a persistant storage operating system like WM5 or WM6...:cool:

makuu
13th August 2007, 01:00 PM
Nobody will ever play with the bootloader because it the best way to brick your device for good.

xingqing
13th August 2007, 01:01 PM
Thanks Maglite.
Can i downgrade to WM2003se if i want?

satnile
13th August 2007, 01:17 PM
Thanks Maglite.
Can i downgrade to WM2003se if i want?

No you won't!!!:D :D :D

cavyman
13th August 2007, 01:34 PM
Nobody will ever play with the bootloader because it the best way to brick your device for good.

Very good point! Goes along the lines of, "If it isn't broken, don't fix it." :)

cavyman
13th August 2007, 01:35 PM
Thanks Maglite.
Can i downgrade to WM2003se if i want?

Yes you can and this question has been asked MANY MANY times before through this thread and the WM5 A03 thread. Go look for how to do it.

Gix
13th August 2007, 01:38 PM
Hi, I don't know if I'm doing something wrong or not, but I cannot install my company's root certificate in order to use Exchange Sync.
I used WM5 A02 before and I haven't had this error.
I tried several methods (cer file, cab file, modified Policies in registry), but I'm always obtaining this error:
"The certificate was not successfully added. Please restart the device and try again."
Can you help me?

psyCORe
13th August 2007, 02:00 PM
does X50v actually support SDHC ? this is amazing :eek:

ctitanic
13th August 2007, 02:08 PM
What about the X51v????!!!!!

cavyman
13th August 2007, 02:38 PM
does X50v actually support SDHC ? this is amazing :eek:

Yes, it does. :)

cavyman
13th August 2007, 02:39 PM
What about the X51v????!!!!!

:confused: What about it?

cavyman
13th August 2007, 02:47 PM
There is something you should check about your bootloader:
Which bootloader do you have?
Do you have A01 or A02 bootloader?

I have checked these two bootloaders and there is slight differences on those two.

You should use A02 bootloader, because Maglite used the A02 rom to build both WM5 aku 321 and WM6 rom. Those 2 roms are not so far from the aku 231 rom. But A01 is more different because it's in aku 1.
However I don't even know if MagLite roms can boot with A01 bootlaoder.

All I know is that for the x51v you cannot boot an aku 231 rom and above on the aku 1 bootloader.

Otherwise did anyone having the same problem that I have with Word Completion?

This is great info Makuu! I did not realize there had been a change between the A01 and A02 bootloader.

I have been using the WM5 A01 bootloader for flashing MagLite's WM5 and WM6 ROMS all along without problems.

The Word Completion has not worked for me either. Not sure if it is gone or just broken somehow. Hopefully MagLite can get on here and answer some of these questions soon--or better yet, maybe just release a fixed WM6 A02 ROM. :D

golfisme01
13th August 2007, 04:24 PM
I just tried to use the procedures outlined above to get WM6 on my Dell X50V. I just upgraded to WM5 last night without a problem. I have downloaded and extracted the software to my SD card, but when I do the wifi+power+reset, it just reloads WM5.

Can you please advise?

Thanks

cavyman
13th August 2007, 04:49 PM
I just tried to use the procedures outlined above to get WM6 on my Dell X50V. I just upgraded to WM5 last night without a problem. I have downloaded and extracted the software to my SD card, but when I do the wifi+power+reset, it just reloads WM5.

Can you please advise?

Thanks

Perhaps you are not performing the combination correctly. In that case, read through this thread and you will find the process outlined in better terms several times over.

raaden
13th August 2007, 05:06 PM
Is anyone else having trouble syncing over USB. It seems to work perfectly sometimes and other times nothing seems to make it work. This is with Vista and WMDC.

I first noticed the problem while I was trying to sync some music to the Axim and it auto powered off. When I turned it back on it didn't automatically sync, and I tried uncradling it and recradling it and it still wouldn't connect. A few hours later I tried it worked again. Then later another try and it wouldn't connect. This time nothing seemed to get it to connect except a deleting the partnership on both sides and soft reseting.

Any thoughts

** Edit** I also upgraded from A01, not sure if this has anything to do with it or not

xingqing
13th August 2007, 05:14 PM
I am WM2003se user of X50v.after upgrading to WM5.0 A01,I had met the case with others.When i pressing the 3 buttons,it shows the factory screen.i felt very disappointed,so i tried to upgrade to WM5.0 A03,it worked.Finally, i upgrade to WM6.0 based on WM5.0 A03.It success!Thanks!:)

Gix
13th August 2007, 05:39 PM
Hi, I don't know if I'm doing something wrong or not, but I cannot install my company's root certificate in order to use Exchange Sync.
I used WM5 A02 before and I haven't had this error.
I tried several methods (cer file, cab file, modified Policies in registry), but I'm always obtaining this error:
"The certificate was not successfully added. Please restart the device and try again."
Can you help me?
I tested now WM5 A03, and this error does not appear. I noticed there are more root certificates here, including several issued by HTC.
Could the lack of these certificates in WM6 be a cause?

digitalrhino
13th August 2007, 05:56 PM
Is anyone else having trouble syncing over USB. It seems to work perfectly sometimes and other times nothing seems to make it work. This is with Vista and WMDC.

I first noticed the problem while I was trying to sync some music to the Axim and it auto powered off. When I turned it back on it didn't automatically sync, and I tried uncradling it and recradling it and it still wouldn't connect. A few hours later I tried it worked again. Then later another try and it wouldn't connect. This time nothing seemed to get it to connect except a deleting the partnership on both sides and soft reseting.

Any thoughts

** Edit** I also upgraded from A01, not sure if this has anything to do with it or not

I am having the same issue with Vista + WMDC. It works fine sometimes, then not at all. I find if I have the device turned off when I dock it, that seems to work most often. This morning I got an error in the Axim's activesync program that I needed to install activesync 4.5 or higher.

Oh yeah and I updated from A03.

ebullit
13th August 2007, 06:05 PM
what version of WMDC are you using? i had that problem and it was WMDC i updated it and it works fine now.

tinycg
13th August 2007, 06:28 PM
This is great info Makuu! I did not realize there had been a change between the A01 and A02 bootloader.

I have been using the WM5 A01 bootloader for flashing MagLite's WM5 and WM6 ROMS all along without problems.

The Word Completion has not worked for me either. Not sure if it is gone or just broken somehow. Hopefully MagLite can get on here and answer some of these questions soon--or better yet, maybe just release a fixed WM6 A02 ROM. :D
Thanks for the help guys, I woke up this morning to a completely dead battery it seems realizing that after I tried to do a full hard reset because it wouldnt boot much more than saying there was a memory problem, it would turn off after canceling or oking it... probably now because of the dead battery that was at 75% last night.

I installed the A01 from Maglite's first post to go back to WM5 after running on it for a while and missing the speed of 2k3 I went back only a couple months ago. I believe I was running WM5 A03 previously.

Would you suggest I try loading the A02 or A03 WM5 then load back WM6.

Ultimately something is keeping the PDA in an on state when its off, how else could the battery drain that quickly. Also, upon putting it in the cradle to charge it sat there at 0% for the last 30mins.. I finally took the battery out and put it in the battery charger in the cradle to see if it charges.

Very odd as this x50v I have barely had problems with.

cavyman
13th August 2007, 06:43 PM
Thanks for the help guys, I woke up this morning to a completely dead battery it seems realizing that after I tried to do a full hard reset because it wouldnt boot much more than saying there was a memory problem, it would turn off after canceling or oking it... probably now because of the dead battery that was at 75% last night.

I installed the A01 from Maglite's first post to go back to WM5 after running on it for a while and missing the speed of 2k3 I went back only a couple months ago. I believe I was running WM5 A03 previously.

Would you suggest I try loading the A02 or A03 WM5 then load back WM6.

Ultimately something is keeping the PDA in an on state when its off, how else could the battery drain that quickly. Also, upon putting it in the cradle to charge it sat there at 0% for the last 30mins.. I finally took the battery out and put it in the battery charger in the cradle to see if it charges.

Very odd as this x50v I have barely had problems with.

When you turned it off for the night, did you leave anything on like wireless or bluetooth? Any programs running? I'm not sure if the ActiveSync hack works with WM6 or even if it still needs to be applied as it did in WM5, but you might want to look into that. Maybe someone else (who has experience) can help us all out by letting us know if there is still a problem with ActiveSync in WM6.

The charging issue sounds wierd. I don't think I've noticed any behavior like that even since I started using the WM6 beta. :confused:

3dot
13th August 2007, 06:50 PM
Is it support BT A2DP?
And i can't find bluetooth manager profile.Somebody get it?

cavyman
13th August 2007, 06:55 PM
Is it support BT A2DP?

Yes, it is supposed to, although I personally have not tested it yet.

And i can't find bluetooth manager profile.Somebody get it?

Maybe I'm thinking of something different, but is it not in the same place as it was on WM5?

tinycg
13th August 2007, 07:16 PM
When you turned it off for the night, did you leave anything on like wireless or bluetooth? Any programs running? I'm not sure if the ActiveSync hack works with WM6 or even if it still needs to be applied as it did in WM5, but you might want to look into that. Maybe someone else (who has experience) can help us all out by letting us know if there is still a problem with ActiveSync in WM6.

The charging issue sounds wierd. I don't think I've noticed any behavior like that even since I started using the WM6 beta. :confused:
Yeah Cavyman I didnt think about the activesync hack from WM5.. no last night when it was off there was nothing running and no bluetooth / wireless lights, so it wasnt just the screen being off, I thought about that too. As far I can think, I turned off wireless because of the WPA-PSK issues, and hadnt been using it last night, bluetooth wasnt on, and the only thing running was Spb Mobile Shell which I was playing around with. That however was installed between the intermittent no power on, and this recent issue so I dont believe that to be the cause but it could be.

Yeah the charging was really odd, I'd never seen that behavior ever before. Was sitting here working, looked at the battery meter in settings and noticed it still said charging and was at 0%.. like.. um.. HUH?

Is it possible that my bootloader is somehow corrupted? What would be the best way to go about trying to correct that.. not trying to be a newb on that, I can look around and see, I dont have a ton of experience in the bootloader but am intelligent enough to read through entire threads and do research before posting, hehe.c

cavyman
13th August 2007, 07:38 PM
Yeah Cavyman I didnt think about the activesync hack from WM5.. no last night when it was off there was nothing running and no bluetooth / wireless lights, so it wasnt just the screen being off, I thought about that too. As far I can think, I turned off wireless because of the WPA-PSK issues, and hadnt been using it last night, bluetooth wasnt on, and the only thing running was Spb Mobile Shell which I was playing around with. That however was installed between the intermittent no power on, and this recent issue so I dont believe that to be the cause but it could be.

Yeah the charging was really odd, I'd never seen that behavior ever before. Was sitting here working, looked at the battery meter in settings and noticed it still said charging and was at 0%.. like.. um.. HUH?

Is it possible that my bootloader is somehow corrupted? What would be the best way to go about trying to correct that.. not trying to be a newb on that, I can look around and see, I dont have a ton of experience in the bootloader but am intelligent enough to read through entire threads and do research before posting, hehe.c

My best guess at this point as to your loss of power overnight is ActiveSync. It sounds like the trouble many X50v users were experiencing with WM5, so I would just try to ActiveSync hack and see what happens overnight again.

I would tend to say that if you successfully flashed WM6 onto your device, there is no reason to suspect a corrupted bootloader. I *think* if your bootloader was corrupted, you probably would not have been able to flash to WM6, let alone complete the whole flash process and actually be able to use WM6.

Again, I would just start with the ActiveSync issue and work from there. It may fix more problems than you might realize, even if it doesn't seem logical that ActiveSync should cause certain problems. ;)

ed5150
13th August 2007, 07:46 PM
Hello

I have a Axim 50v running ppc2003 and have never been able to install the mobile 2005 (I have ended up with bricks, but thankfully dell replaced them since it was still under warranty). can I upgrade from 2003 to mobile 6 without going thru mobile 5? can I switch back if I have problems? Anything I should know when upgrading? Thank you. -ed

tinycg
13th August 2007, 08:01 PM
Ed, when you say 'unable to install' and that you bricked it, it would help us know what you had problems with. But ultimately you have to have the WM5 bootloader on you x50v BEFORE you go to WM6 as 2k3 has a different bootloader and will be unable to read the rom image you are trying to install.

Cavy, I'll give that stuff a try and report back. I was thinking the same thing as far as the bootloader but didnt know if that was the cause of the 'memory error' issue, ultimately something isnt happy, hehe.

cavyman
13th August 2007, 08:04 PM
Hello

I have a Axim 50v running ppc2003 and have never been able to install the mobile 2005 (I have ended up with bricks, but thankfully dell replaced them since it was still under warranty). can I upgrade from 2003 to mobile 6 without going thru mobile 5? can I switch back if I have problems? Anything I should know when upgrading? Thank you. -ed

You apparently have not read through this thread before posting, have you?

I'm tempted to do my usual, "Read through the thread and you will find your answer as many have asked the same thing before..." reply, but the fact that you've bricked several Axims before makes me want to give you a direct answer.

Here is your answer:
NO, it will not work to upgrade to WM6 straight from WM2003 or WM2003SE.

Now that you will hopefully not rush right into trying it anyway, read through this thread and you will find your answer as many have asked the same thing before. In fact, everything you asked has been asked (or addressed) before in this very thread. Like I tell all other X50v users who are new to flashing ROMs, DO YOUR HOMEWORK. I can't stress that enough. Don't ever start into this unless you have an "escape plan" if something goes wrong. There are lots of posts out there that are good guides to how to flash and what to do if a flash goes bad.

I'm sorry to sound so annoyed, but it seems that every newbie out there who has seen this thread's title has gotten on here and immedietly posted a new post asking the same thing as this post. Chances are, if you have a question, someone else has probably already asked it. Take a little time and do some research.

And this goes for ANYONE out there....if you're too lazy to read the directions and follow them, DON'T FLASH ROMs! It's too risky to do if you have no clue what you're supposed to be doing.

3dot
13th August 2007, 08:04 PM
Any one can use wififofum 2.2.11?
It can't find any ap,but built in Dell wifi utility show there are severals access point and all signal strength show "BEST"!!!
It is abnormal that all ap is "best".
Seems wm6 wifi driver was broken.

cavyman
13th August 2007, 08:09 PM
Any one can use wififofum?
It can't find any ap,but built in Dell wifi utility show there are severals access point and all signal strength show "BEST"!!!
It is abnormal that all ap is "best".
Seems wm6 wifi driver was broken.

Yes, it appears that the WM6 wifi driver is broken. Wififofum should work fine again once the wifi driver is fixed.

3dot
13th August 2007, 08:14 PM
Yes, it appears that the WM6 wifi driver is broken. Wififofum should work fine again once the wifi driver is fixed.

Thanks for your reply.
wifi companion can still work properly.Maybe i need to stick with wifi companion for a while:(

ed5150
13th August 2007, 08:26 PM
When I installed mobile 5 from the upgrade cd from Dell, it would run either sluggish for a few days, and then would not work. Doing a hard reset would only allow me to align the screen, but when I would click to continue, the handheld would reset and it would start over to realign the screen again. When trying to install ppc2003 with assistance from Dell tech support, the handheld would lock up and not respond to anything.

If worse came to worse, I am still under warranty for another year so I could still replace if necessary (although it is a pain to contact tech support and go thru the hassle).

Thanks for the assistance (sorry about repeating known issues).

ed

[QUOTE=tinycg;1436171]Ed, when you say 'unable to install' and that you bricked it, it would help us know what you had problems with. But ultimately you have to have the WM5 bootloader on you x50v BEFORE you go to WM6 as 2k3 has a different bootloader and will be unable to read the rom image you are trying to install.

cavyman
13th August 2007, 08:31 PM
If worse came to worse, I am still under warranty for another year so I could still replace if necessary (although it is a pain to contact tech support and go thru the hassle).

Good luck getting Dell to replace a unit that you installed (or attempted to install) a hacked ROM onto. They have their butts covered on that one and your warranty will not cover your unit if you use a hacked ROM.

Publius
13th August 2007, 09:48 PM
Here is the trick that seems to be left out. Hold down wireless+power first, then while continuing to hold, quickly press the reset button and let go, CONTINUE to hold the wireless+power buttons until the SD image loader boots up.

Thanks, I got that now. It works great. Love you all.

DrBios
13th August 2007, 10:26 PM
do you have this issue about the soft reset stop loading at 80% some times?
i starting to think that could be the bootloader ...

in my case i have first wm5 a01 then i install maglite a03 then maglite a01 wm6

so i think than i have bootloader form wm5 a01... m i wrong?
how is your log on installation of this rom?

makuu
13th August 2007, 10:48 PM
Here is what I can say, I guess that MagLite used a WM5 A02 nb0 to build the 352 and WM6 nb0. To do so he used grab_it to extract the nb0 from the x50v device, it means that he has an A02 bootLoader on its device.

Here is what I did I used regular Dell upgrade process to upgrade from WM2003SE to WM5 A01 and then WM5 A02. When I reach the A01 step I did the grab_it dump and extracted the bootLoader and nb0, I did the same at WM5 A02. When I compare both A01 and the A02 bootloader, I get differences using a diff tool on the binary files. That's why it looks more natural to me to use an A02 bootloader rather than the A01.

Also you can change the bootloader by using the SD flash method, I would not recommand it as it's very risky and you might brick it for good.

So better user the regular usb process, with the Dell uitilities you can upgrade the bootloader from 2003SE to WM5 A01 and finally WM5 A02. You can also downgrade from WM5 A01 or A02 to WM2003 SE, but you cannot directly downgrade from WM5 A02 to A01.

badbob001
13th August 2007, 11:09 PM
New Wi-Fi encryption standarts (WPA2 & WPA2-PSK) not added because it not supported by 802.11b standart...


Could the removal of this be causing the wifi WPA problems? Lets try leaving it in and see what happens. I would guess it should be fine as long as we don't select WPA2 or WPA2-PSK.

I haven't upgraded to wm6 yet, but the reports of losing wifi at regular intervals sounds like the device is trying to re-authenticate... perhaps there is a bug and it thinks it's in WPA-Enterprise mode (can periodically re-authenticate to a radius server).

cavyman
14th August 2007, 02:52 AM
do you have this issue about the soft reset stop loading at 80% some times?
i starting to think that could be the bootloader ...

in my case i have first wm5 a01 then i install maglite a03 then maglite a01 wm6

so i think than i have bootloader form wm5 a01... m i wrong?
how is your log on installation of this rom?

DrBios, I do have the soft-reset hang problem. I did not notice it in the beta ROM, but I have run into the problem several times in the A01 release. I suppose it could be the bootloader, though I'm not really too sure what to think at this point. I know I'm becoming increasingly frustrated with several quirks with the WPA issue at the top of my "frustration list".

Just to kill some time, I'm going to flash the A02 bootloader to my Axim and then re-flash to WM6 just to see if a couple problems disappear. Maybe we'll hear from MagLite soon! :)

cavyman
14th August 2007, 02:54 AM
Could the removal of this be causing the wifi WPA problems? Lets try leaving it in and see what happens. I would guess it should be fine as long as we don't select WPA2 or WPA2-PSK.

That could very well be part of it. Maybe MagLite will be able to let us know something about it soon!

NeoGodSpeed
14th August 2007, 02:59 AM
MagLite_RUS

This only works on X50v right! I can't use this on a X51v? If not will there be a Rom soon for X51v?

Thanks NeoGodSpeed...

UnicornKaz
14th August 2007, 03:08 AM
MagLite_RUS

This only works on X50v right! I can't use this on a X51v? If not will there be a Rom soon for X51v?

Thanks NeoGodSpeed...

that's what the title at the front said !! :rolleyes:

if you're after the ROM for the X51V ... we got a thread for that too !!

SEARCH !!! :p

Zeus_Alex
14th August 2007, 04:08 AM
I have updated from WM5 A02 and have the Hang Reset problem too... The Wifi problem i didnt notice yet, but i dont use WPA...Sorry... I have noticed some screen garbage, just like said in some post. But a soft reset fixes the problem. My battery goes faster with this rom, and i have the 2800mAh battery..Cant understand why...Tried the fake server trick but its the same... And anyone can conect to Windows Live? I cant...None of the Microsoft products included in the rom conects..They all give the same conection problem... I, as many others, would like that Maglite could atleast say something about these situations... I am more than happy to donate something for his hard work, but i would like to see something said... Thanks for this fine piece, and i'll be waiting for you to say if you could resolve those major bugs... Greets from Portugal

BrettDioson
14th August 2007, 05:07 AM
I too am having trouble installing a certificate on the device after updating to WM6. I am trying to install a .cer file from the device by tapping on it, and I get an error "Intermediate or root certificates were not successfully added to the device. Please restart the device and try again. Programs requiring a certificate chain may not work properly." I also cannot enrol a certificate from WinXP using AS4.5.

I really need to get a cert added to sync with my exchange server. any idea on how to get this done or what I am doing wrong? is the WM6 rom application locked or something?

vitorfavila
14th August 2007, 06:13 AM
I put the WM6 files into SD Card, but the SD Image Update
returns a errror: "Only FAT32 supported".

I have a Kingston SD 1gb, file system is FAT32

Where I can format the SD to try again?

Thanks

1337woody
14th August 2007, 06:18 AM
well you could get a a sd card reader and right click format to fat 32 or if you dont have one then use this

http://www.pocketgear.com/software_detail.asp?id=851&associateid=17

its a 10 day trial but works. i had to use it bc i dont have a card reader.

vitorfavila
14th August 2007, 06:46 AM
well you could get a a sd card reader and right click format to fat 32 or if you dont have one then use this

http://www.pocketgear.com/software_detail.asp?id=851&associateid=17

its a 10 day trial but works. i had to use it bc i dont have a card reader.

I will try it, thanks

vitorfavila
14th August 2007, 06:57 AM
well you could get a a sd card reader and right click format to fat 32 or if you dont have one then use this

http://www.pocketgear.com/software_detail.asp?id=851&associateid=17

its a 10 day trial but works. i had to use it bc i dont have a card reader.

It Works

Thank You

vitorfavila
14th August 2007, 06:59 AM
Great Job MagLite

thank you

cocofish
14th August 2007, 07:29 AM
I am using Activesync 4.5 & find can't pair with the PC thru bluetooth!

Please help

MagLite_RUS
14th August 2007, 07:56 AM
Hello my friends!
Sorry for no reply from me... I'm very tired from work on this rom and take little holidays to relax :)
Thanks for bug reports!
When I will reach to my notebook, I will begin work on correction these bugs.

About soft-reset bug: please write program list installed on your PDA's with this bug...

And please - upgrade your bootloaders to A02 version! (Downgrade to WM5 A01 via SD and upgrade, with official Dell updrade, to WM5 A02 via PC and now upgrade to WM6 A01 via SD).

New releases: coming soon... :D

Thanks for all!

//MagLite

tinycg
14th August 2007, 08:06 AM
Thanks for the reply Maglite,

Simply a suggestion but could you update the first post to say to use the WM5 A02 rather than the A01 to make that more clear. Hopefully that will help with others migrating.. I will update tomorrow and report back.

As far as my soft reset, the several times I've had it have been intermittent and twice it was on clean installs of WM6 the last time I had it yesterday I had Spb Mobile Shell installed but that was it at that point I didnt want to load it up without fixing or attempting to locate some of the problems.

emptyhen
14th August 2007, 09:40 AM
I found this yesterday while mucking around with my X50v. I should probably point out that before this I had never managed to get a WPA-PSK connection working. It would often look like it was trying to connect, but never actually connect.
So far, this has worked every time I've tried without a single soft reset. It has even worked after a soft reset, but only if I activate it like this:


Start off by turning both the BT and WiFi on.
On the top menu bar (by the clock and volume control) you should have the network status icon. Tap it and select "Turn On Flight Mode".
Both the Wifi and BT should have now turned off. (The blue and green lights should have stopped flashing)
Now you can tap the network status icon again and select "Turn off flight mode"
Both the WiFi and the BT should now start and the WiFi should work perfectly.(At least they do for me!)


It always seems to work so long as I enable and disable the wireless thought the "Turn on/off flight mode" from windows. Don't use the button on the side!.

Unfortunately, at least for now you need the BT to come on as well.

Incidentally, through playing with this I have noticed that only the Bluetooth seems to be fully tied into the flight mode functionality. What I mean is, the Axim seems to think it is in flight mode when ever the Bluetooth is off and not in flight mode when the BT is on. The state of the WiFi interface does not affect it. Maybe with will help in tracking down the problem in the firmware. It looks like there is some layer of software that is not being loaded properly when using the wireless button and the Dell control panel?

Hope this helps.

Mark

PS. I'm using the WM5 A02 bootloader with Maglite's WM6 A01 ROM

GREAT work Maglite!!

Antineutrino
14th August 2007, 09:46 AM
Hi Guys...
Please could someone post benchmark comparison between wm2003SE wm05 wm06...
using
SPBBenchmark
http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/benchmark/download.php?en
gxmark
http://int13.net/gxmark.htm
BenchGLES
http://pocketmatrix.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=246425#246425

and others...

:D :D :D

tripper_91
14th August 2007, 10:39 AM
can someone please provide wm6 for Axim x30, i kno many others beside myself will appreciate it greatly. I tried to load the one for X50 through the bootloader and it came back with an error

thanx in advance:)

satnile
14th August 2007, 11:38 AM
I found this yesterday while mucking around with my X50v. I should probably point out that before this I had never managed to get a WPA-PSK connection working. It would often look like it was trying to connect, but never actually connect.
So far, this has worked every time I've tried without a single soft reset. It has even worked after a soft reset, but only if I activate it like this:


Start off by turning both the BT and WiFi on.
On the top menu bar (by the clock and volume control) you should have the network status icon. Tap it and select "Turn On Flight Mode".
Both the Wifi and BT should have now turned off. (The blue and green lights should have stopped flashing)
Now you can tap the network status icon again and select "Turn off flight mode"
Both the WiFi and the BT should now start and the WiFi should work perfectly.(At least they do for me!)


It always seems to work so long as I enable and disable the wireless thought the "Turn on/off flight mode" from windows. Don't use the button on the side!.

Unfortunately, at least for now you need the BT to come on as well.

Incidentally, through playing with this I have noticed that only the Bluetooth seems to be fully tied into the flight mode functionality. What I mean is, the Axim seems to think it is in flight mode when ever the Bluetooth is off and not in flight mode when the BT is on. The state of the WiFi interface does not affect it. Maybe with will help in tracking down the problem in the firmware. It looks like there is some layer of software that is not being loaded properly when using the wireless button and the Dell control panel?

Hope this helps.

Mark

PS. I'm using the WM5 A02 bootloader with Maglite's WM6 A01 ROM

GREAT work Maglite!!

As I said earlier on this thread, my WPA-PSK wifi has worked fine without imterruption for me as long as no soft reset is made. Once I do a soft reset, I can only regain the wifi signal by enabling and then disabling the odyssey client in the connection tab, then the wlan seems somehow to work solidly until the next soft reset.

However, I tried your method after the soft reset and it didn't work for me at all. Try it yourself after you do a soft reset first and report back to us if it still works for you.

satnile
14th August 2007, 11:44 AM
can someone please provide wm6 for Axim x30, i kno many others beside myself will appreciate it greatly. I tried to load the one for X50 through the bootloader and it came back with an error

thanx in advance:)

There isn't even a WM5 upgrade for this device, how on earth you would expect somebody to provide a WM6 for it. And what were you thinking when you flashed the X30 with an X50v WM6 rom, you were lucky that your device was not bricked.

3dot
14th August 2007, 12:32 PM
Hi Guys...
Please could someone post benchmark comparison between wm2003SE wm05 wm06...
using
SPBBenchmark
http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/benchmark/download.php?en
gxmark
http://int13.net/gxmark.htm
BenchGLES
http://pocketmatrix.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=246425#246425

and others...

:D :D :D

I posted before.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=322498&page=4

Mindfield
14th August 2007, 12:57 PM
Thanks Mindfield its nice you know you're not the only one thats experienced a similar ordeal. Now that I think about it, it happened to me on WM5 but not A03 as I downgraded back to 2003 a couple months ago.

Reading elsewhere that it might have something to do with my SD card, I took it out, and havent seen the problem.. but again there is no pattern to it. And yeah it seems to hang in some sort of infinite loop.

The first time it happened was after I undocked it last night after it was running fine for a day. The second time today was after normal use, turned it off.. went to turn it on and nothing until you do as you say.

I notice if it hangs I soft reset it and it runs through the boot process fine. I'm beginning to wonder if maybe the WM5 bootloader on the ROM is slightly corrupted? Would explain why I never saw the issue in 2K3 but had it once in WM5 and now WM6 as the WM5 bootloader would overwrite the 2K3 one.

I don't know enough about it to say where the problem might have been -- it was impossible to diagnose because of the apparent randomness of the occurrences. So far it has not happened under WM6 though -- and by now, under WM5, the chances are good that it would have happened at least once already, so I'm crossing my fingers. If it lasts the week without freezing, I'll call the upgrade a success -- so long as no other serious problems arise. :)

Mindfield
14th August 2007, 12:58 PM
It works perfect with my 8G SDHC "Partiot Memory"
Consider me impressed then. Was that the first SDHC card you tried? Patriot isn't exactly a big-name brand in memory, so I am heartened by the idea that there may be a good chance any SDHC card will work.

cocofish
14th August 2007, 01:35 PM
The driver of wifi was missing!

Please check as well.

Thx!

vitorfavila
14th August 2007, 02:26 PM
My wifi is working great.

cavyman
14th August 2007, 02:31 PM
The driver of wifi was missing!

Please check as well.

Thx!

What? What driver did you look for?

cavyman
14th August 2007, 02:39 PM
can someone please provide wm6 for Axim x30, i kno many others beside myself will appreciate it greatly. I tried to load the one for X50 through the bootloader and it came back with an error

thanx in advance:)

I don't think the x30 has enough flash memory to hold a WM5 or WM6 ROM. I highly doubt that anyone is going to try to create a WM6 ROM for X30. I'm not discouraging anyone from trying it, but I just think the most Axims pre-X50 are not going to see a lot of support still.

I know the lack of VGA on the X30 is a big reason most people would not try to make a WM5/WM6 ROM for it. Trust me, at this point, if WM2003 works for you on your X30, I would just stick with it. ;) After all, look at all the issues we're dealing with in WM6 right now! :p

Zeus_Alex
14th August 2007, 03:20 PM
Ok...Today appeared my biggest problem with wm6...

But first,thanks for replying Maglite...

Today, after a normsl soft reset something happened. First,it stopped booting at 80%, that was normal, but when the boot loaded full, my x50v got stuck at the green windows mobile screen...
I tried several things for hours..Then i noticed that when it freezes at the green windows screen, the wifi led kept on blinking...i left the ppc for a few minutes and then begin to blink the wifi and bluetooth..
Did several sot resets and nothing happened..the same stuff..
Then i tried something...
The self diagnostic of the bootloader...and it worked..it just tested everything in ram, without deleting anything, and after that, it booted perfectly...

For those who dont know how:

Press Record + Power for 2/3 secs and then reset....
It should appear a message saying about the test...

And the funny is that after the completion of the test and after the soft reset, my x50v was faster...

Hope that can be of any help to anyone...

Greets from Portugal
Zeus_Alex

satnile
14th August 2007, 03:54 PM
This problem seems to still happen with WM6. I have installed SPB pocket plus in the internal memory and since then filesys.exe seems to have kicked in with vengeance occupying 72% of CPU, greatly slowing down the device. Even removing the SPB pocket plus didn't remedy the problem immediately, as i took a little while for filesys.exe to stop hogging the CPU.

badbob001
14th August 2007, 04:28 PM
As I said earlier on this thread, my WPA-PSK wifi has worked fine without imterruption for me as long as no soft reset is made. Once I do a soft reset, I can only regain the wifi signal by enabling and then disabling the odyssey client in the connection tab, then the wlan seems somehow to work solidly until the next soft reset.

I remember that the axim has an .exe that runs at startup (ie: after a reset) that is suppose to turn off the wifi. I think it's called wifioff.exe. Could this be the cause of the problem after a reset? Has anyone tested by only turning on/off wifi through the control panel wifi applet and NOT using the side-button or flight-mode? It would help to narrow down the variables. I think the side button is linked to wirelessonoff.exe. It's possible those .exe's are not wm6 compatible.

anomy
14th August 2007, 05:31 PM
I know this may seem stupid, and I now know I need to read better.

I tried this on an X50, and it made it's way through all of the setup, but now it won't boot. I've tried getting back into the Boot-Disk Loader, but can't.

Please, please help.

tinycg
14th August 2007, 06:31 PM
I know this may seem stupid, and I now know I need to read better.

I tried this on an X50, and it made it's way through all of the setup, but now it won't boot. I've tried getting back into the Boot-Disk Loader, but can't.

Please, please help.
Anomy this is ONLY FOR X50V.. not X50. I'm not sure I can offer any advice beyond making sure you do your research, and read through everything before attempting something like this. We continue to see these 'lessons' being learned in this thread the hard way.

I'd try loading back to WM5 A01 but if you cant get to the SD Bootloader I'm not sure what support we can give.

cavyman
14th August 2007, 06:41 PM
I know this may seem stupid, and I now know I need to read better.

Yes, just as with all the other X50 owners who didn't read carefully, it is stupid that you fell into the same trap. How many times must I write the same thing over and over again before X50 people will listen? This ROM is

*NOT FOR AN X50 -- IT IS ONLY FOR AN X50v*
*NOT FOR AN X50 -- IT IS ONLY FOR AN X50v*
*NOT FOR AN X50 -- IT IS ONLY FOR AN X50v*
*NOT FOR AN X50 -- IT IS ONLY FOR AN X50v*
*NOT FOR AN X50 -- IT IS ONLY FOR AN X50v*
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Now maybe some of the non-reading X50 users will catch on to that.

I tried this on an X50, and it made it's way through all of the setup, but now it won't boot. I've tried getting back into the Boot-Disk Loader, but can't.

That's too bad...read through this thread and you will find all the other X50 users who did the same thing. We have told all of the others how to *try* to fix their problem. See if any of those posts help you.

Please, please help.

Here's the most helpful thing I can say to you right now:

LEARN HOW TO READ DIRECTIONS MORE CAREFULLLY. Oh yeah, and don't flash one device's ROM onto a device that it [the ROM] doesn't belong on.

satnile
14th August 2007, 06:55 PM
I know this may seem stupid, and I now know I need to read better.

I tried this on an X50, and it made it's way through all of the setup, but now it won't boot. I've tried getting back into the Boot-Disk Loader, but can't.

Please, please help.

You have essentially corrupted your device bootloader, therefore you can no longer use the sd image flash procedure. Also you can't use the usb connection any more if the device is not booting to any OS. Sorry, but your device is in an irrecoverable state.

turtlgal
14th August 2007, 07:08 PM
Thank you thank you for this upgrade. I love it
The only buggy thing I have seen so far is in bluetooth.
I was able to pair my axim to my windows vista laptop via bluetooth, but when it showed the screen for services, it showed 2 checkboxes, with no info next to them. So I don't know what services they were. Also I was able to pair my bluetooth headset with the axim, however it does not show any services (and there were with 2003)
Although I can get to the bluetooth screen to add a device, I don't really see a way to manually connect to the device such as my headset. I used to be able to go to the bluetooth manager, and choose connect. Anyone have any ideas?
:p

cavyman
14th August 2007, 07:22 PM
I was able to pair my axim to my windows vista laptop via bluetooth, but when it showed the screen for services, it showed 2 checkboxes, with no info next to them. So I don't know what services they were.

Yeah, I had the same thing happen for me both in this release and in the beta release. Someone else may know exactly what they are, but I'm pretty sure the three services (if they were all visible) are: Dial-up Networking, A2DP, and ActiveSync.

Also I was able to pair my bluetooth headset with the axim, however it does not show any services (and there were with 2003)
Although I can get to the bluetooth screen to add a device, I don't really see a way to manually connect to the device such as my headset. I used to be able to go to the bluetooth manager, and choose connect. Anyone have any ideas?
:p

I don't have a BT headset myself, so my help on that matter is very limited. When you had your BT headset set up with WM2003, did it use any COM ports to work?

turtlgal
14th August 2007, 08:03 PM
No it didnt use com ports, and I can pair just fine, it's just that once it's paired there seems to be no way to tell it to connect.

Zuckstone
14th August 2007, 09:12 PM
No it didnt use com ports, and I can pair just fine, it's just that once it's paired there seems to be no way to tell it to connect.

Had the same problem.
Installed Broadcom Bluetooth hack found on aximsite. Now it is the same functionality found in pc2003.
http://www.aximsite.com/boards/x50-x51-forums/122247-widcomm-axim-x50v-x51v-state-development.html

Zuckstone
14th August 2007, 09:18 PM
Is there any way to check to see which Bootloader version is installed?

Swigbert
14th August 2007, 09:22 PM
After reading through the thread and thinking I've followed all the instructions, including using different SD cards, I still can't seem to update from WMSE to WM5. Any suggestions please, I'm pleading at this point.

manoloalvarez
14th August 2007, 10:20 PM
Great Work! Simply amazing. Recently I had updated to WM5 A02. Battery life affected beacuse of filesys.exe. I don't know but my battery life seems affected once again under WM6 A01. Anyone else seeing battery life issues? Thanks and keep up the great work!

satnile
14th August 2007, 10:26 PM
After reading through the thread and thinking I've followed all the instructions, including using different SD cards, I still can't seem to update from WMSE to WM5. Any suggestions please, I'm pleading at this point.

Assuming that your device is AXIM X50V (very important), to upgrade from WM2003SE to WM5 AO2 you should use nornal activesync method and the official dell Rom from here:

http://support.euro.dell.com/support/downloads/download.aspx?c=uk&cs=ukdhs1&l=en&s=dhs&releaseid=R143808&formatcnt=1&libid=0&fileid=191977

Once you have WM5 AO2 up and running, then you can use the WM6 on sd card upgrade, as described by MagLite in the first post of this thread.

turtlgal
14th August 2007, 10:45 PM
Had the same problem.
Installed Broadcom Bluetooth hack found on aximsite. Now it is the same functionality found in pc2003.
http://www.aximsite.com/boards/x50-x51-forums/122247-widcomm-axim-x50v-x51v-state-development.html

Thanks so much, I'll try that now.

Swigbert
14th August 2007, 11:09 PM
Assuming that your device is AXIM X50V (very important), to upgrade from WM2003SE to WM5 AO2 you should use nornal activesync method and the official dell Rom from here:

http://support.euro.dell.com/support/downloads/download.aspx?c=uk&cs=ukdhs1&l=en&s=dhs&releaseid=R143808&formatcnt=1&libid=0&fileid=191977

Once you have WM5 AO2 up and running, then you can use the WM6 on sd card upgrade, as described by MagLite in the first post of this thread.
:confused:
Yes, my unit is X50v. When I attempt to use the System Update from which you sent me it reports the current system is ROM V A05, OS V Mobile Version 5.0. But looking at the units system information itself it stills reports as Mobile 2003 Second Edition.

So then I tried MagLite's sd card upgrade but it still says that there is no image found. I thought I was more competent than this. This isn't my first PDA nor first firmware upgrade.:(

satnile
14th August 2007, 11:18 PM
:confused:
Yes, my unit is X50v. When I attempt to use the System Update from which you sent me it reports the current system is ROM V A05, OS V Mobile Version 5.0. But looking at the units system information itself it stills reports as Mobile 2003 Second Edition.

So then I tried MagLite's sd card upgrade but it still says that there is no image found. I thought I was more competent than this. This isn't my first PDA nor first firmware upgrade.:(

OK, hold the power and wireless buttons together then press the reset button briefly (in & out quickly) whilst continue pressing the power & wireless buttons until the sd image mesage appears, then release them. Yo may have to repeat the process until you get the sd image, then it should be easy from now on.

Swigbert
14th August 2007, 11:23 PM
Thanks for your suggestions, satnile. I'll give it a try. I really appreciate your efforts.

cavyman
14th August 2007, 11:39 PM
Is there any way to check to see which Bootloader version is installed?

Yes. If you do the button combo to get into the SD Image Loader, it will tell you the bootloader version there.

turtlgal
14th August 2007, 11:42 PM
Yeah, I had the same thing happen for me both in this release and in the beta release. Someone else may know exactly what they are, but I'm pretty sure the three services (if they were all visible) are: Dial-up Networking, A2DP, and ActiveSync.



I don't have a BT headset myself, so my help on that matter is very limited. When you had your BT headset set up with WM2003, did it use any COM ports to work?

That worked for me Thanks so much!!!!!!

Mindfield
15th August 2007, 01:27 AM
Well, it's been another full day and my device hasn't gone into its seized up, infinite loop state yet. On the old ROM it's pretty much guaranteed that this would have happened by now, so it looks like WM6 is definitely more stable than the old WM5 I was running. Simply brilliant. My Ax is fun to use again!

I haven't had any issues with WiFi either, but I'm not using WPA, so that might have something to do with it. I haven't tried Bluetooth yet. Are there any known compatibility issues on WM6? Everything I've tried so far has worked (at least, worked as well as it did on WM5) so I have no complaints in that department yet.

I did notice that when I installed Resco Explorer with the Resco Today plugin, my system slowed down considerably -- it seemed to assume control of the PDA every second, resulting in jerky mouse movement when accessing the Axim through TrueConnect. I don't remember this happening under WM5. I uninstalled the Today plugin and reset and it's back to normal now, so it's no big deal.

BrettDioson
15th August 2007, 01:37 AM
Ok, I've tried installing both the .cer and .p12 versions of certificates (root, and personal). Neither certificate would install. I also tried to install via the CAB method described on the MSDN blogs. That also was unssucessfull (literally, the error message was unsucessfull.) So, I guess I'm going to have to wait for whatever the bug fix is that MagLite comes up with (tremendous effort BTW! From the whole community, I thank you).

On to Bluetooth... The Bluetooth PAN feature seams to be missing from the stack, or at least doesn't pair with my i607 BlackJack (works with XP, not WM5 or WM6). Was wondering if you could incorporate the widcomm stack previously mentioned (http://www.aximsite.com/boards/x50-x51-forums/122247-widcomm-axim-x50v-x51v-state-development.html)? Don't know if that would break internet sharing on the axim (or if it even works on the axim wm6), but I thought I would throw it out there.

Thank again for the hard work.

Pada
15th August 2007, 04:48 AM
Wow

Thanks 2 all !. My x50v is setup with the Dell factory WM5 2 rom. ( Ready to go) From what I understand from this thread wifi works but not the encryption part and some are having better luck than others with Internet and BlueTooth.

I bought the big battery a few months back and use the device very little. Some more fun till the UMPC's get more reasonable. From what I remember reading WM6 is everything WM5 should have been. Office 4 WM6 was on IPmart months ago when the first WM6 roms were happening. I have this somewhere to try after install. ;)

TARGET88
15th August 2007, 06:08 AM
I FOLLOWED YOUR INSTRUCTIONS, BUT HAD SOME DIFFICULTIES.

1) Unpack files from archive into root of FAT32 SD-Card. { NOT QUITE SURE WHAT THAT MEANS, BUT I SAVED THE FILE: "Download Dell Axim X50v WM6 A01 ROM" TO MY DESKTOP AND EXTRACTED THE TWO FILES WHICH WERE LOADED ONTO A 2GB SD CARD }

2) Insert the SD-Card into your Axim and start the SD Image Loader by Pressing Wireless + Power + Reset { INSERTED THE SD CARD INTO THE AXIM AND TRIED TO FLASH IT BY PRESSING THE WIRELESS BUTTON, THE POWER BUTTON AND THE RESET BUTTON SIMULTANEOUSLY, BUT GOT THE SCREEN WHICH STATES, "TO RESTORE FACTORY SETTINGS, ETC.... ". THE SD IMAGE LOADER FAILED. }


3) The Image Loader will search for flash images on your SD-Card. { THIS STEP FAILED. }


4) Press the action key twice, this starts the update process. { I DO NOT KNOW WHICH KEY IS THE ACTION KEY. }

5) After the process is finished you will be asked to hard reset your device. Follow this instruction and wait for the OS to load.
:confused:
WOULD SOMEONE GUIDE ME ALONG TO SUCCESSFULLY MAKE THE WM 6 UPDATE. THANK YOU.

jerryfreak
15th August 2007, 06:19 AM
it seems to work ok, but still not as fast as wm2003.

I have a bunch of different 8gb sdhc cards on order, i'll report back here when they arrive!

cavyman
15th August 2007, 06:21 AM
I FOLLOWED YOUR INSTRUCTIONS, BUT HAD SOME DIFFICULTIES.

1) Unpack files from archive into root of FAT32 SD-Card. { NOT QUITE SURE WHAT THAT MEANS, BUT I SAVED THE FILE: "Download Dell Axim X50v WM6 A01 ROM" TO MY DESKTOP AND EXTRACTED THE TWO FILES WHICH WERE LOADED ONTO A 2GB SD CARD }

This means, put the files in the very top level of the SD card (ie. no folders--no nothing. Just drop the files on the SD card).

2) Insert the SD-Card into your Axim and start the SD Image Loader by Pressing Wireless + Power + Reset { INSERTED THE SD CARD INTO THE AXIM AND TRIED TO FLASH IT BY PRESSING THE WIRELESS BUTTON, THE POWER BUTTON AND THE RESET BUTTON SIMULTANEOUSLY, BUT GOT THE SCREEN WHICH STATES, "TO RESTORE FACTORY SETTINGS, ETC.... ". THE SD IMAGE LOADER FAILED. }

Read through this thread. I can't tell you how many times this exact question has been asked and answered in this thread. If you read, you will find.

3) The Image Loader will search for flash images on your SD-Card. { THIS STEP FAILED. }

Again, find the solution to the previous step by reading this thread and you will get here.

4) Press the action key twice, this starts the update process. { I DO NOT KNOW WHICH KEY IS THE ACTION KEY. }

The "action" key in this case is the center button (in the middle) of the directional (navigation) buttons on the front of your Axim below the screen.

5) After the process is finished you will be asked to hard reset your device. Follow this instruction and wait for the OS to load.
:confused:

And once again, *read*, *follow the steps exactly as written*, and you will get there.


Just for the sake of saying it again, please make sure you're not trying to flash this to an X50 instead of an X50v. I would hate to see you run into the same trap as several others have by flashing this ROM to a device it's not made for.

jerryfreak
15th August 2007, 06:26 AM
i beleive i installed with the A01 bootloader (It says 'SD image update A01' at the top when i load it.) and it works pretty well in my limited use. Is there any real reason to redo it with the A02 bootloader? Cavyman, did you reinstall and see any difference? Maglite, are you recommending loading from A02 for any particular reason, or just to be safe?

if i was gonna update to the a02 bootloader, can i install the dell wm5 A02 .exe right now with the wm6 A01 on my axim? or do i need to go sd loader to wm5 a01 > dell wm5 a02 .exe > wm6 a01 sd loader

sukangoprek
15th August 2007, 06:49 AM
hi everybody. I'm New in this forum. pls kindly teach me :)

@target88
action key is button in the middle of navigation key.

@all
last time I know, ROM wm6 A01 still have bug with wifi+wpa and windows live, how about now? is there any patch, or maybe there is wm6 a02?

by the way, sorry if my questions have been answered in another post/page. It's hard to check one by one all post, because my internet connection still slow. it will take a long time.
thank you

warm regards

jerryfreak
15th August 2007, 07:21 AM
can someone recommend some links with discussion about pagepool size and its effect on axim performance? I use my axim for a very limited utility (recording), and would like to tweak the performance

I tried to search the forums, but didnt really find much. ive seen some discussion here, but not a real in-depth discussion of the advantages and disadvantages

thanks everyone

ichiro7
15th August 2007, 08:57 AM
hi guys. i did something wrong. in the midst of all the excitement, i missed out on flashing from WM5 A01 to A02. original was w2003se. now i cant get anything to work. is there anyway out from this other than getting a new unit.

stopthebus
15th August 2007, 09:38 AM
Error: invalid certificate
Could be my company Exchange Server, but works perfectly fine before the upgrade.

A2DP: connect but no sound


Appreciate the work.